IANAL, nor do I play one here, but the word seems to be that "function" vs. "implementation" matters for copyright but not patents. From Groklaw:
Here's why software and patents don't belong together.
For one thing, patents protect *ideas*, not their application. There just aren't enough ways to do fundamental tasks in software to make patents a good fit. Software is math. How many ways are there to say 1+1=2? A couple of years ago, there was a discussion about software patents on Slashdot, and someone with the handle Lonath left this insightful comment, which I edited slightly for language, as indicated by brackets:
"The main issue (IMO) is that people don't get math. Since they say you can't patent an abstract algorithm, but you can patent a mathematical algorithm if it's useful, you're saying that the same thing is both patentable and not patentable. The reason people think this way is that they think word problems aren't math problems. So, when you start giving numbers in algorithms real-word meaning, people get that confused GW Bush look and start fumbling around thinking that because the math has some real-world meaning given to it, it's somehow different than abstract math. Which is [absolutely incorrect]. What we need is to send people back to elementary school so that they can learn that when you solve an abstract math problem, then you give the numbers real-world meaning in a word problem, you don't change the problem."
It's a comment I hope Europeans think carefully about, as some try to fashion a patent system that isn't a patent system.
censorship 1 a : the institution, system, or practice of censoring b : the actions or practices of censors; especially : censorial control exercised repressively
2 : the office, power, or term of a Roman censor
3 : exclusion from consciousness by the psychic censor
censorship
: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable
It doesn't have to be a government. I can censor myself, my children, my peers (assuming only that I have the power or wit necessary). You caught the institution part but lost the "system or practice" part of the definition.
Checkout the screenshoots of not just blackbox, but icewm, and KDE running on the iPaq. I think most would agree that KDE is a "desktop" level window manager. You can take debian.debs (for arm) and install them.
Debian suports ARM as one of it's many architectures, and has done since release 2.2 ('potato') was released in 2000. The current release is Debian 3.0 ('woody'). Whilst it nominally has equal status with other architectures it is fair to say that there remain some bugs in the ARM release and it can be hard to install on some platforms. Nevertheless it is an extremely useful resource for the technically competent user, allowing you to run a modern Linux on your ARM device."
I don't think anyone would complain about some modifications to OSX to fit the constraints of a PDA, as long as you could still run OSX and OS9 software on the PDA, right?
Well, actually... yes you can, because they did it for us:
Currently Familiar's Linux distribution supports some of the following key
features:
Entirely based on XFree86's/keithp's Tiny-X server, which includes
the latest RENDER extension.
Anti-Aliased True-Type Font support in rxvt-aa, matchbox, and fltk
(this is extended to any X application using the Xft APIs).
Dropbear sshd included by default.
The latest releases include JFFS2 support, which enables you to
have read/write access to the iPAQ's Flash.
Integrated Python v2.3 w/ PyGtk and PyGDKImlib.
Binary and Library compatible w/ Debian's ARM distribution. In most
cases, programs (as long as their dependencies are met) can be taken
from Debian and executed on the iPAQ w/out issue.
Full package support based on ipkg.
Many system programs are implemented using busybox, saving much space.
If thats not enough Linux in your PDA, try:
The intimate project is a fully blown debian based linux distribution for the Compaq iPAQ. Taking the work being done by the Familiar Project and combining it with fully blown debian package management, and access to the thousands of existing debian arm packages. The goal is simple. We want the best of both worlds. Sure... it won't fit in the 16MB Flash but for the lucky few with microdrives then this is the way ahead. The minimum requirements are currently around 140MB of storage for the base image.
But interoperability relates to integration. Right now MS owns the desktop but has trouble penetrating the enterprise level. Note that Star/OpenOffice is Java extendable, including an OfficeBeanAPI.
"Components implement StarOffice API services. You are never dealing directly with them when you program in StarOffice API. They are accessible as beans which you
can incorporate into your own programs."
Now which system is more integrable with enterprise level systems?
Well actually its as important what the dominant consumer does as the dominant vendor. If goverenments around the world want the standard, then they will use a standard compliant system. If that occurs, what MS does matters less. No leader can lead without followers.
I disagree. When document formats are standardized and people know conversions work, then "just good enough" will rule and price/performance will dominate buying decisions. Anybody who spends a lot of money for a non-standard office suite is going to be considered crazy.
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Ever read Wealth of Nations? Do you think that we have a ballance of power today between supplysiders and consumers? We no longer have villages of skilled craftsman competing, who weren't able to service more than a county. In order to have a free-market today it is necessary to ballance the power wielded by the large multi-nationals, or reduce them to the small businesses from whence they came. Government intervention is one way. View it as the power of the people of a country taken together as a whole. Regulation is necessary as elimination of corporations just isn't politically feasible.
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That would be true if we were just looking at the last two sitting presidents. Look back further and ask about job creation. Hell, ask about correlations between market growth and which party held the white house. Its easy to say that no one can see an obvious mechanism. Pointing to obvious differences in philosophy and goals between the parties only indicates what they would *want* to do, anyway. Still its hard to disregard a strong correlation spanning my lifetime.
As Willie Sutton the bank robber said
when asked why he robbed banks, "because that's where the money is". You should tax people who make more money at a higher rate than you do those who make less for the same reason that those who are at a subsistance level shouldn't be taxed at all. As you move from a subsistance level upwards and more and more of your meta needs are being met, a higher level of taxation is less of a burden. "Its immoral and wrong." If God told you so, maybe your right about the morality. I admit it angers me. Otherwise, though, I'd suggest you are choosing a solution that does best for you considering the position your currently have. Calling it immoral is mere rationalization. Your position might be consistent, and yet still consistently wrong.
Re:Thats not the major problem
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Ok I'll bite. The truely sad thing is that these are considered to be the most electable. Don't blame the parties. Its us. If we as a people indicated we wanted different sorts of people, then that difference would be reflected in what our politician's images looked like. So maybe what your saying is really, "This is what people will vote for? What I really need to do is move somewhere where the population has a clue."
Unemployment rates only deal with people who are drawing unemployment. Out of work for 2 years? You don't show up. Don't qualify? You aren't counted. Lose a good job, and end up flipping burgers to make ends meet? You are not unemployed.
The real question to ask is, how many jobs where lost and how many jobs where created, and in what fields? Asking these questions, things don't look as good as your comparison would suggest.
A real concern that fiscal conservatives have is the tremendous debt we have accumulated in such a short time. We had ballanced the budget and were generating surpluses, we were actually reducing the national debt, and looking at a timetable to zero it. A philosphy of starving government down by simultaneously reducing revenue (tax breaks) while spending outrageous sums (faster than Reagon, even) has scared fiscal conservatives. Some of us thing it should at least get your attention, too.
Well then, why not make the GIS available online? Charge for bandwidth. But they should only charge for the cost of access costs. To try to recoup the cost of building or maintaining the *public* data set would be wrong.
Its really the same arguement. Is it public data? Then the *public* gets access to it. To suggest that citizens of the county are more "public" than their neighbors in an ajoining county is misleading. To suggest that *public* data be a source of revenue enhancement is distrubingly wrong. All you've done is shift slightly those people who would benifit from the theft of *public* data.
Your arguement seems to suggest that the people who pay for the data collection should own it. If they were private people, then yes. But they weren't. We have laws that distinguish between public and private works. Its not like we want a market economy governing our government.
Yes, but what about a series of Google extensions for Firebird? Or maybe building Python in as a Javascript peer, then building the Gbrowser atop Firebird that way? Its not like (at this point) the two concepts (your use of Firebird vs Gbrowser) have to be mutually excludable.
Oracle will finish switching its 9,000-person in-house programming staff to Linux by the end of 2004, the database powerhouse said Wednesday.
In October, the company finished the Linux transition for the 5,000 programmers of its Oracle Applications software. Now the transformation has begun for those who work on the database product, said Wim Coekaerts, director of Linux engineering, in an interview at the CeBit trade show in New York.
"By the end of the year, (Linux) is our core platform," Coekaerts said. Oracle is switching because Linux systems are less expensive and faster, he added.
They check to see where you are linking from and try to avoid the slashdotting. Just cut and paste the URL from the address box back into the address box and hit return.:-)
Perhaps you meant to say, "configure" rather than "installation"?
and in true Open Source fashion, no one helped them, other than to say, "Well, I've setup a nifty Perl hack to fix that problem . . you just need these 4 libraries and then write your own XML commands.".
So you're saying they've already done your job and fixed it? So whats the problem? Having trouble installing perl? Not intending to troll, but it seems like your support was exceptionally good...
Its interesting to me that you put "rights" and "entitlements" together. Almost tongue-in-cheek. Most would agree that "rights" are such that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." That surely doesn't sound like sitting around on collective asses, so...
I'd be interested in seeing research into the correlations amongst the concentration of wealth in a nation, the age of a nation, and its rise or decline. Please consider that outsourcing is going to make money for some at the expense to others. It will increase the concentration of wealth.
Every other OS is careful to build in a driver interface that is independent of the OS version.
So then Win9x drivers should work with win2k? Didn't think so. Rather, drivers are released for all the versions of MSWin, and the appropriate ones are installed.
It was obvious that the author meant that Pixar's lawyers killed ExLuna. That was the point. That was the only point, right there...that a lawyer's point of view rather than a technologists point of view led Pixar to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
In terms of "whether that was more or less effort", comparing the open sourcing to the uptake of the format...it was because of the open sourcing that the format became ubiquitous.
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Actually you have too tight a definition:
censorship
1 a : the institution, system, or practice of censoring
b : the actions or practices of censors; especially : censorial control exercised repressively
2 : the office, power, or term of a Roman censor
3 : exclusion from consciousness by the psychic censor
censorship
: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable
It doesn't have to be a government. I can censor myself, my children, my peers (assuming only that I have the power or wit necessary). You caught the institution part but lost the "system or practice" part of the definition.
Photo imaging overlords? I thought we were talking Kodak! When did Homeland Security enter the conversation?
Checkout the screenshoots of not just blackbox, but icewm, and KDE running on the iPaq. I think most would agree that KDE is a "desktop" level window manager. You can take debian .debs (for arm) and install them.
Debian suports ARM as one of it's many architectures, and has done since release 2.2 ('potato') was released in 2000. The current release is Debian 3.0 ('woody'). Whilst it nominally has equal status with other architectures it is fair to say that there remain some bugs in the ARM release and it can be hard to install on some platforms. Nevertheless it is an extremely useful resource for the technically competent user, allowing you to run a modern Linux on your ARM device."
I don't think anyone would complain about some modifications to OSX to fit the constraints of a PDA, as long as you could still run OSX and OS9 software on the PDA, right?
Currently Familiar's Linux distribution supports some of the following key features:
If thats not enough Linux in your PDA, try:
The intimate project is a fully blown debian based linux distribution for the Compaq iPAQ. Taking the work being done by the Familiar Project and combining it with fully blown debian package management, and access to the thousands of existing debian arm packages. The goal is simple. We want the best of both worlds. Sure... it won't fit in the 16MB Flash but for the lucky few with microdrives then this is the way ahead. The minimum requirements are currently around 140MB of storage for the base image.
Well actually its as important what the dominant consumer does as the dominant vendor. If goverenments around the world want the standard, then they will use a standard compliant system. If that occurs, what MS does matters less. No leader can lead without followers.
I disagree. When document formats are standardized and people know conversions work, then "just good enough" will rule and price/performance will dominate buying decisions. Anybody who spends a lot of money for a non-standard office suite is going to be considered crazy.
Ever read Wealth of Nations? Do you think that we have a ballance of power today between supplysiders and consumers? We no longer have villages of skilled craftsman competing, who weren't able to service more than a county. In order to have a free-market today it is necessary to ballance the power wielded by the large multi-nationals, or reduce them to the small businesses from whence they came. Government intervention is one way. View it as the power of the people of a country taken together as a whole. Regulation is necessary as elimination of corporations just isn't politically feasible.
That would be true if we were just looking at the last two sitting presidents. Look back further and ask about job creation. Hell, ask about correlations between market growth and which party held the white house. Its easy to say that no one can see an obvious mechanism. Pointing to obvious differences in philosophy and goals between the parties only indicates what they would *want* to do, anyway. Still its hard to disregard a strong correlation spanning my lifetime.
As Willie Sutton the bank robber said when asked why he robbed banks, "because that's where the money is". You should tax people who make more money at a higher rate than you do those who make less for the same reason that those who are at a subsistance level shouldn't be taxed at all. As you move from a subsistance level upwards and more and more of your meta needs are being met, a higher level of taxation is less of a burden. "Its immoral and wrong." If God told you so, maybe your right about the morality. I admit it angers me. Otherwise, though, I'd suggest you are choosing a solution that does best for you considering the position your currently have. Calling it immoral is mere rationalization. Your position might be consistent, and yet still consistently wrong.
Ok I'll bite. The truely sad thing is that these are considered to be the most electable. Don't blame the parties. Its us. If we as a people indicated we wanted different sorts of people, then that difference would be reflected in what our politician's images looked like. So maybe what your saying is really, "This is what people will vote for? What I really need to do is move somewhere where the population has a clue."
Unemployment rates only deal with people who are drawing unemployment. Out of work for 2 years? You don't show up. Don't qualify? You aren't counted. Lose a good job, and end up flipping burgers to make ends meet? You are not unemployed.
The real question to ask is, how many jobs where lost and how many jobs where created, and in what fields? Asking these questions, things don't look as good as your comparison would suggest.
A real concern that fiscal conservatives have is the tremendous debt we have accumulated in such a short time. We had ballanced the budget and were generating surpluses, we were actually reducing the national debt, and looking at a timetable to zero it. A philosphy of starving government down by simultaneously reducing revenue (tax breaks) while spending outrageous sums (faster than Reagon, even) has scared fiscal conservatives. Some of us thing it should at least get your attention, too.
Isn't what he wants to do with *public* data not relevant? Public data is public data.
Well then, why not make the GIS available online? Charge for bandwidth. But they should only charge for the cost of access costs. To try to recoup the cost of building or maintaining the *public* data set would be wrong.
Its really the same arguement. Is it public data? Then the *public* gets access to it. To suggest that citizens of the county are more "public" than their neighbors in an ajoining county is misleading. To suggest that *public* data be a source of revenue enhancement is distrubingly wrong. All you've done is shift slightly those people who would benifit from the theft of *public* data.
Your arguement seems to suggest that the people who pay for the data collection should own it. If they were private people, then yes. But they weren't. We have laws that distinguish between public and private works. Its not like we want a market economy governing our government.
Yes, but what about a series of Google extensions for Firebird? Or maybe building Python in as a Javascript peer, then building the Gbrowser atop Firebird that way? Its not like (at this point) the two concepts (your use of Firebird vs Gbrowser) have to be mutually excludable.
So let me get this straight. You are attacking the writer for saying that that is a typo instead of a mistake?
Uh, if you look, you'll see that the parent and the writer are the same person . But thanks for playing, and nice score despite your confusion.
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Well, check out the Linux Oracle commercial and be amazed.
So whats up with Oracle and Linux?
Oracle will finish switching its 9,000-person in-house programming staff to Linux by the end of 2004, the database powerhouse said Wednesday.
In October, the company finished the Linux transition for the 5,000 programmers of its Oracle Applications software. Now the transformation has begun for those who work on the database product, said Wim Coekaerts, director of Linux engineering, in an interview at the CeBit trade show in New York.
"By the end of the year, (Linux) is our core platform," Coekaerts said. Oracle is switching because Linux systems are less expensive and faster, he added.
They check to see where you are linking from and try to avoid the slashdotting. Just cut and paste the URL from the address box back into the address box and hit return. :-)
Perhaps you meant to say, "configure" rather than "installation"?
and in true Open Source fashion, no one helped them, other than to say, "Well, I've setup a nifty Perl hack to fix that problem . . you just need these 4 libraries and then write your own XML commands.".
So you're saying they've already done your job and fixed it? So whats the problem? Having trouble installing perl? Not intending to troll, but it seems like your support was exceptionally good...
Its interesting to me that you put "rights" and "entitlements" together. Almost tongue-in-cheek. Most would agree that "rights" are such that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." That surely doesn't sound like sitting around on collective asses, so...
I'd be interested in seeing research into the correlations amongst the concentration of wealth in a nation, the age of a nation, and its rise or decline. Please consider that outsourcing is going to make money for some at the expense to others. It will increase the concentration of wealth.
Every other OS is careful to build in a driver interface that is independent of the OS version.
So then Win9x drivers should work with win2k? Didn't think so. Rather, drivers are released for all the versions of MSWin, and the appropriate ones are installed.
It was obvious that the author meant that Pixar's lawyers killed ExLuna. That was the point. That was the only point, right there...that a lawyer's point of view rather than a technologists point of view led Pixar to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
In terms of "whether that was more or less effort", comparing the open sourcing to the uptake of the format...it was because of the open sourcing that the format became ubiquitous.
Sorry, all, if I've been trolled...