Nice to discuss with someone who thinks about their answers!
I think its healthy to question all beliefs, including my own.
As mentioned before, I can totally understand natural selection. The problem I have with evolution is seeing any examples where genetic information has increased. I probably formed that belief after reading 'Darwins black box', and seeing how complex even a biological cell is. Membrances, and energy production sections, and waste disposal units, replication units. Its like a minature factory.
So tell me if I'm wrong, because I'm happy to be corrected. But does evolution require a random mutation when the cell is copying to produce a beneficial effect.
if the answer is yes then let me extend my thinking. So lets say we have a functioning cell, lets say trillions of them. So a cell divides, but incorectly. So first we have to determine what are the chances of the mutation being beneficial or non beneficial. I would only be guessing what that ratio would be.. lets say its 1 out of 1e6. So then it depends on what the benefit is. I'm thinking its only 1 cell out of a trillion, what are the chances of its 'DNA' becoming dominant.... but then (I'm making this up as I go) what about all the bad mutations that are occurring. If the bad ones far outweigh the good ones, and some of those bad ones produce cells that still function, will that ratio tend the system toward disorder??
This is reminding me of Stephen Kings mega long movie 'The Stand'. If you want to be scared witless by combining that movie + mutated bird flu, rent this movie out. Scary Stuff...
and you are quite corerct. The pole points of the feedback loop in many switchmode regulators are effected by the ESR of the main output filter cap. Although I think if someone used a low ESR cap of the capacitance and voltage as what they were replacing, they would be pretty safe.
This is where a little bit of knowledge can be a bad thing.
Sure its easy enough to go to the local electronics store, and buy an equivilent cap (ie match the Voltage and Capacitance written on the cap), but there are a couple of other very important (depending on the application) normally not marked parameters. Ripple Rating, Temperature, and ESR ESR = Effective Series Resistance and can cause stability problems if it is too high. If the Ripple Current Rating is too low, you could end up with more exploding / dying caps due to over heating. If you do decide to DIY, I suggest you buy 105oC, low ESR caps. (And don't forget they are polarised. Putting them in backwards will make them explode)
OK, interesting comments. Let me give an example. I have a genetic weak bone condition. It must have originated from a bad copy during a birth somewhere. Thus disorder has increased, but the disorder in no way effects my ability to reproduce and only has a minimal impact on my ability to survive. There are many examples of gentic mutations that cause very limited impact on survival/reproduction (but have reduced genetic information though faulty copying), but no human examples I know of where a new beneficial feature has been added, let alone that propogating into the majority of the population. (eg A person being able to see in the IR or UV band, or having a super strong bone structure).
Please understand this is different to someone being less susceptible to disease for example, as this is natural selection (which I believe in). I'm talking about evolution where more information is created.
God created life perfect. Adam sins and God now allows imperfection. Natural selection occurs, but no NEW genetic information (Evolution) is created. So we start with a perfect copy, and as generations go on, this copy is gradually getting worse (through new genetic disorder). Natural selection ensures really bad copies die off (eg miscarriage in a mammal), and pretty bad copies don't normally reproduce... but there is an overall DECREASE in order as time goes on.
Its like getting a linux kernal binary, and whacking in or removing a few random bytes every copy and expecting that to make a better linux kernel. What will happen is a gradual decay of its function, not an increase. Yet evolutionists would have me believe that a TCP stack evolved given enough time.. huh where is the trail of partially working code. Common sense says that the gradual decrease in information will be orders of magnitude greater than any increase, and the replication of the decreasing order will overwhelm the increase.
Yes, but US customs can refuse them. Even in Australia, there is a new rule coming in where DVD's/CD's will be confiscated from your personal baggage if they are suspected of being pirated. So the point is that once it becomes a law, customs will start enforcing that law.
After reading 'Titan', a biography (very long!) on John D Rockerfeller, I think I would go option 1. The rockerfeller foundation has done a hell of a lot of groundbreaking medical work (like eradicating hookworm) that could only be done by gathering the brightest and best together in a concentrated effort.
It's interesting how evolution is almost a religion, in that its believers often resort to personal ridicule to defend their point of view.
Do realise you contradicted yourself. In one sentance you said,
matter only tends toward disorder in the long tem. Then you say
The universe has a few billion years to create a complicated system???
A Christian is a follower of Christ. Is that what you are?
Talk to any systems engineer. (I am one, and I was talking about this ID to another that has designed satellites) It takes 10's of thousands of hours to design a complex system. Intelligent purposeful, difficult design work where even one overlooked design error could render the whole device useless. 1. Life is much more complex than a satellite. (Why, because man has been trying to reverse engineer it for a long time, and still has only partial knowledge of how it works) 2. Matter tends towards disorder. Take neattly lined up box of matches and drop them from 1m. The matches will have both lower potential energy, and more disorder. Combine the extreem complexity of life, with a unvirse that tends toward disorder, and ID starts to make sense.
I read all the criticims about ID not being science, and I agree. In a practical sense, the science of evolution has proved pretty useless. How often does a research science trying to cure cancer go and grab his origon of the species?
The point is Medical & Biological research do not depend on ID or Evolution. eg.If anything, the perception that somthing intelligent designed life is more of an advantage to biological researcher, because he can say, hey there is a well thought out system here, and my job is to reverse engineer it, rather than, hey all these random beneficial mutations have produced incresed order. Its like the junk DNA thing. Evolutionists say 'hey' we don't what all this junk is, so it must be leftovers from evolution. An ID would say, hey everything has a purpose, we just need to do more scientific research to find out what it is.
So to say ID is against science is a lie. Against a small branch of science, then maybe yes.
I am so sick of this lame argument being used against creationists. ie, that religion & science wrt creation are incompatible. You are the sort of guy that would believe if you had enough sand and lightning strikes (billions of them of course), you would get a Pentium microprocessor. God clearly says he enjoys us working out the mechanics of what he intelligently created. http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Many_famous_scient ists_were_creationists
If God created the initial rules and mechanics of life; How does this oppose science? All science is doing, is reverse engineering. It's like someone gave you a PC with an OS installed, but no instructions on how to use it. So you spend your life working out how it works. You propose theories, test them. You see if you can replicate them and apply your knowledge to create other things. Again, how does this oppose religion/existance of God? Evolution is a religion in itself used to try and justify a Godless existance, in some vain hope that you will not be personably answerable to your creator. Good Luck!
Wow.. there is a lot of misinformation flying around this subject.
1. I'm an engineer that has designed a breath analyser that has passed regulatory standards. 2. In Australia you can be prosecuted on breath sample alone..but 3. Prosecutions can only happen on an evidential machine (not a hand held unit). Hand held units use platinum catalyst fuel cells. Evidential units (eg Drager) use Infrared Absorbtion AND they must take a reading before and after the test sample using a NATA calibrated reference gas that is typically 200ppm ethanol in nitrogen. 4. Govt. isn't the only one who uses breathalysers. Many many more are used in drug rehab, workplace screening (esp mine sites where you are operating very expensive and big machinery), hospitals, clubs etc etc. 5. If the USA is prosecting on the reading of a hand held fuel cell based unit reading alone, then that is very bad. 6. Should the source code be opened up? Hmm.. well to be honest it sounds like a legal manauver to me, as it's not just the source code, but a whole matrix of tests, such as temperature, volume of breath sampled, time & compensation since last reading. There could be also be mechanical failures in the sampling pump, the detector etc etc etc. 7. The relationship the alcohol in the blood vs. breath is very well established (2300:1 in most countries)
So the bottom line is, opening the software up is just a crock and invades the companies IP rights. Prosections should only be allowed if the reading was taked by an IR evedential unit that takes a reading using a NATA reference gas immediatly before and after the specimen sample.
The SPLs refer to peak, not average. Peak is very different to average. This is why you see crappy plastic steros advertising 1200W PMPO (Peak Music Power Output), when in fact they are problably 20W RMS(Root Mean Square). They probably get their peak figure by pulsing a single (inaudable) 10uS square wave into a 1 Ohm load. Instant peaks can be much higher than normal averaged readings used. I also rember AC/DC used to use real cannons with percussive loads in their concerts, and although I never went, freinds said they would have ringing in their ears for days after. Perhaps that is the peak referred to!
Yes, noise cancelling headphones would help. To enjoy music, you normally want it loud enough to bloack out all percievable ambient noise. Generally IMHO this is 20dB above ambient. Thus in a quiet 50dB room, you may be content with 70dB music, which you can listen to all day no probs... but if you are on public transport at say 90db, you may be listening at 105db with normal headphones which will cause damage. Thus by using noise cancelling headphones, you should be able to enjoy your music at lower SPLs (sound pressure levels), and save your hearing from undue stress.
I do sound engineering, and you need to be 6-12dB above ambient noise to hear something clearly. Thus if you are in traffic of 95dB and you headphones cut out say 5dB, you will still need around 100dB. This could be damaging. See the tables below.
Environmental Noise Weakest sound heard 0dB Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB City Traffic (inside car) 85dB Train whistle at 500' 90dB Subway train at 200' 95dB Level at which sustained exposure may result in hearing loss 90 - 95dB Power mower 107dB Power saw 110dB Pain begins 125dB Pneumatic riveter at 4' 125dB Jet engine at 100' 140dB Death of hearing tissue 180dB Loudest sound possible 194dB
Perceptions of Increases in Decibel Level Imperceptible Change 1dB
Barely Perceptible Change 3dB Clearly Noticeable Change 5dB About Twice as Loud 10dB About Four Times as Loud 20dB
Sound Levels of Music Normal piano practice 60 -70dB Fortissimo Singer, 3' 70dB Chamber music, small auditorium 75 - 85dB Piano Fortissimo 84 - 103dB Violin 82 - 92dB Cello 85 -111dB Oboe 95-112dB Flute 92 -103dB Piccolo 90 -106dB Clarinet 85 - 114dB French horn 90 - 106dB Trombone 85 - 114dB Tympani & bass drum 106dB Walkman on 5/10 94dB Symphonic music peak 120 - 137dB Amplifier rock, 4-6' 120dB Rock music peak 150dB
Is the USA going mad?? Where is people power? It's governments duty to restrict the power of corporations which is where you got your antitrust laws. (Via JD Rockefellers standard oil... paradoxically even through JDR's standard oil was the equivalent to todays micro$oft, his philanthropy has made a HUGE difference to medical research and education... so was the bad worth the good??) but I look at the USA now, and feel genuine sadness of what is happening to a once great country.
Your foreign debt is unsustainable and you are almost at the mercy of foreign Asian banks.
You have destroyed your manufacturing base so now even your two once great car manufacturers have their debt rated at junk.
You are trying to support your petro dollar (ie keeping oil priced in USD) through incursions into Arab countries alienating you from the Muslim world. (and peeving off Europe)
You have your worst ever natural disaster, and from abroad we either think you are a) incompetent in your response, or b) still racist of the poor in the south.
You have a looming unfunded social security nightmare.
Last time I was in New York, I thought.. man the public facilities are looking run down...
What's happening USA??? Believe it or not, you guys hold the world finances together... and it looks like your about to blow it!!
My business could easy afford somthing more complex, but why?? It's received & sent fax's reliably for 5 years. The exchange mail server works a treat. The https IIS interface works fine for webmail. The file server serves files. The modem pool works. The backup software works. It runs on a compaq proliant 1850R with RAID that has never missed a beat, and its easy to manage.
We did have a linux boxen for a while as a gateway on a 1850R, but if you unplugged the keyboard the box would crash!! (not even a kernal panic notice), plus it was a pain to learn all the obscure text based config files. It got replaced by an ADSL modem with built in NAT, Firewall, VPN with nice easy to use web configuration!
The bottom line in business expenditure is to look for value. I don't give a crap if files don't get served at terrabit speeds. If the SBS server was unreliable, I would have replaced it, but in IMHO it fills the niche it was designed for.
You should be banned from slashdot for recommending this POS
Have you ever used this POS?
We have been running SBS4.5 for five years now and the only time I touch the box is to do backups or add remove users/computers. It has been a great solution for our small business.
You have obviously never tried to do any EMC compliance testing. The amount any consumer electronic device is allowed to emit is 30dbuV/m (-76dbm) (quasi peak) measured at 10m. Emperically, this is about the same as a medium to weak terrestial TV signal. Do you suppose those aircraft windows do much of a job stopping any RF below about 500MHz?, so you can't purely argue faraday cage effect of the aircraft body. Don't forget, modern jets have zillions of electronics in them from seat phones, entertainment systems, lighting inverters, motor control etc etc. So your game boy/CD player etc is perfectly safe. Transmitters are probably safe, but intermodulation effects may cause problems.
And thus you proove again to me the ludicrous claim of evolution. The permutation of 100 is >9e+157, yet your saying it is possible that the permuations of millions of lines of object code could create a nice gui. I dare you to write a program that generates 1000 random ASCII characters, and each time parsing it through a c compiler. Do think you would ever see that baby compile??? let alone do anything usefull.
Random biological change only destoys information, and no one has yet given me an example where NEW information is created that also creates new beneficial functinality.
Even billions years in biliogical time is no where near enough to run through the permuations to create a human, let alone the destructve mess of mutants such a process would leave in its wake.
But you said it. 'Its a harmful mutation' No new information was created. If the network card in you PC fails, and you stop getting virii, is that a beneficial mutation of your PC?? Yes, I believe in natural selection, but natural selection is exactly that, where evolution is random creation of NEW beneficial information.
You are confusing evolution for natural selection. Evolutionsists claim that information is increased through random mutations. Your example of Bad Driving is one of natural selection, which I totally agree with. Natuaral selection, like my example of still birth will often cull and stop the propogation of that negative trait... BUT... natural selection does NOT create any new information.
Is the fact anyone believes in evolution at all ! Come on evolutionsists. Name just ONE example of where genetic mutation increased information and functionality. Geuss what, mutations cause an increase in disorder. eg, I have a genetic condition called osteogenesisimperfecto, or weak bones. Does it cause me to die. No. Does it make me not repoduce. No. Do 'normal' people have it. No. When was the last time you heard of a friend gaining biological functionality! You are all so blind that you can't see life started out being created with no 'bugs' and has been decaying ever since. Life is like taking perfect object orientated operating system (way more complex than the zillions of intelligent non random coding hours man has spent) and every few thousand copies or so changing a bit of the object code. Sometimes the result causes death (still birth) because it effects a core piece of the OS, and other times just a nuciance (like my bones). But the undeniable fact is we only observe corruption/decay. But OK, lets say 1 in 100 times a mutation occurs, something beneficial happens, and of the 99 non beneficial 50% cause death & 50% are a nuciance. Well, holy shit batman! We still have way more decay than beneficial outcomes. Get a clue people. http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/muta tions.asp
I think this story is showing the age of the / crowd. The original series was every 12 yo boys dream come true. (well I lie, I also liked BuckRodgers.. and StarTrek..Blake7..and what was that british one on the moon?). Anyway, the one thing I clearly remember from the original was that bl''dy same viper FX shot.. every show... 20 times... Grrrr.. Glad they now have the technology for no repeat FX
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Nice to discuss with someone who thinks about their answers!
... but then (I'm making this up as I go) what about all the bad mutations that are occurring. If the bad ones far outweigh the good ones, and some of those bad ones produce cells that still function, will that ratio tend the system toward disorder??
I think its healthy to question all beliefs, including my own.
As mentioned before, I can totally understand natural selection.
The problem I have with evolution is seeing any examples where genetic information has increased.
I probably formed that belief after reading 'Darwins black box', and seeing how complex even a biological cell is. Membrances, and energy production sections, and waste disposal units, replication units. Its like a minature factory.
So tell me if I'm wrong, because I'm happy to be corrected. But does evolution require a random mutation when the cell is copying to produce a beneficial effect.
if the answer is yes then let me extend my thinking.
So lets say we have a functioning cell, lets say trillions of them.
So a cell divides, but incorectly. So first we have to determine what are the chances of the mutation being beneficial or non beneficial. I would only be guessing what that ratio would be.. lets say its 1 out of 1e6.
So then it depends on what the benefit is.
I'm thinking its only 1 cell out of a trillion, what are the chances of its 'DNA' becoming dominant.
This is reminding me of Stephen Kings mega long movie 'The Stand'.
If you want to be scared witless by combining that movie + mutated bird flu, rent this movie out.
Scary Stuff...
and you are quite corerct.
The pole points of the feedback loop in many switchmode regulators are effected by the ESR of the main output filter cap.
Although I think if someone used a low ESR cap of the capacitance and voltage as what they were replacing, they would be pretty safe.
The best one I have seen is wiring a 1000uF 25v cap directly to 240VAC. .. for fun of course .. goes off like a fire cracker.
doing the above in our now highly regulated safety society is of course in no way endorsed.
This is where a little bit of knowledge can be a bad thing.
Sure its easy enough to go to the local electronics store, and buy an equivilent cap (ie match the Voltage and Capacitance written on the cap), but there are a couple of other very important (depending on the application) normally not marked parameters.
Ripple Rating, Temperature, and ESR
ESR = Effective Series Resistance and can cause stability problems if it is too high.
If the Ripple Current Rating is too low, you could end up with more exploding / dying caps due to over heating.
If you do decide to DIY, I suggest you buy 105oC, low ESR caps. (And don't forget they are polarised. Putting them in backwards will make them explode)
OK, interesting comments.
Let me give an example.
I have a genetic weak bone condition. It must have originated from a bad copy during a birth somewhere. Thus disorder has increased, but the disorder in no way effects my ability to reproduce and only has a minimal impact on my ability to survive.
There are many examples of gentic mutations that cause very limited impact on survival/reproduction (but have reduced genetic information though faulty copying), but no human examples I know of where a new beneficial feature has been added, let alone that propogating into the majority of the population.
(eg A person being able to see in the IR or UV band, or having a super strong bone structure).
Please understand this is different to someone being less susceptible to disease for example, as this is natural selection (which I believe in). I'm talking about evolution where more information is created.
What about this theory.
God created life perfect.
Adam sins and God now allows imperfection.
Natural selection occurs, but no NEW genetic information (Evolution) is created.
So we start with a perfect copy, and as generations go on, this copy is gradually getting worse (through new genetic disorder).
Natural selection ensures really bad copies die off (eg miscarriage in a mammal), and pretty bad copies don't normally reproduce... but there is an overall DECREASE in order as time goes on.
Its like getting a linux kernal binary, and whacking in or removing a few random bytes every copy and expecting that to make a better linux kernel. What will happen is a gradual decay of its function, not an increase. Yet evolutionists would have me believe that a TCP stack evolved given enough time.. huh where is the trail of partially working code. Common sense says that the gradual decrease in information will be orders of magnitude greater than any increase, and the replication of the decreasing order will overwhelm the increase.
Yes, but US customs can refuse them.
Even in Australia, there is a new rule coming in where DVD's/CD's will be confiscated from your personal baggage if they are suspected of being pirated.
So the point is that once it becomes a law, customs will start enforcing that law.
After reading 'Titan', a biography (very long!) on John D Rockerfeller, I think I would go option 1.
The rockerfeller foundation has done a hell of a lot of groundbreaking medical work (like eradicating hookworm) that could only be done by gathering the brightest and best together in a concentrated effort.
It's interesting how evolution is almost a religion, in that its believers often resort to personal ridicule to defend their point of view.
Do realise you contradicted yourself.
In one sentance you said,
matter only tends toward disorder in the long tem.
Then you say
The universe has a few billion years to create a complicated system???
A Christian is a follower of Christ. Is that what you are?
I think you are barking up the wrong tree.
Talk to any systems engineer. (I am one, and I was talking about this ID to another that has designed satellites)
It takes 10's of thousands of hours to design a complex system. Intelligent purposeful, difficult design work where even one overlooked design error could render the whole device useless.
1. Life is much more complex than a satellite. (Why, because man has been trying to reverse engineer it for a long time, and still has only partial knowledge of how it works)
2. Matter tends towards disorder.
Take neattly lined up box of matches and drop them from 1m. The matches will have both lower potential energy, and more disorder.
Combine the extreem complexity of life, with a unvirse that tends toward disorder, and ID starts to make sense.
I read all the criticims about ID not being science, and I agree.
In a practical sense, the science of evolution has proved pretty useless. How often does a research science trying to cure cancer go and grab his origon of the species?
The point is Medical & Biological research do not depend on ID or Evolution. eg.If anything, the perception that somthing intelligent designed life is more of an advantage to biological researcher, because he can say, hey there is a well thought out system here, and my job is to reverse engineer it, rather than, hey all these random beneficial mutations have produced incresed order.
Its like the junk DNA thing.
Evolutionists say 'hey' we don't what all this junk is, so it must be leftovers from evolution.
An ID would say, hey everything has a purpose, we just need to do more scientific research to find out what it is.
So to say ID is against science is a lie. Against a small branch of science, then maybe yes.
I am so sick of this lame argument being used against creationists.t ists_were_creationists
ie, that religion & science wrt creation are incompatible.
You are the sort of guy that would believe if you had enough sand and lightning strikes (billions of them of course), you would get a Pentium microprocessor.
God clearly says he enjoys us working out the mechanics of what he intelligently created.
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Many_famous_scien
If God created the initial rules and mechanics of life; How does this oppose science? All science is doing, is reverse engineering. It's like someone gave you a PC with an OS installed, but no instructions on how to use it. So you spend your life working out how it works. You propose theories, test them. You see if you can replicate them and apply your knowledge to create other things.
Again, how does this oppose religion/existance of God?
Evolution is a religion in itself used to try and justify a Godless existance, in some vain hope that you will not be personably answerable to your creator.
Good Luck!
Wow.. there is a lot of misinformation flying around this subject.
1. I'm an engineer that has designed a breath analyser that has passed regulatory standards.
2. In Australia you can be prosecuted on breath sample alone..but
3. Prosecutions can only happen on an evidential machine (not a hand held unit).
Hand held units use platinum catalyst fuel cells. Evidential units (eg Drager) use Infrared Absorbtion AND they must take a reading before and after the test sample using a NATA calibrated reference gas that is typically 200ppm ethanol in nitrogen.
4. Govt. isn't the only one who uses breathalysers. Many many more are used in drug rehab, workplace screening (esp mine sites where you are operating very expensive and big machinery), hospitals, clubs etc etc.
5. If the USA is prosecting on the reading of a hand held fuel cell based unit reading alone, then that is very bad.
6. Should the source code be opened up? Hmm.. well to be honest it sounds like a legal manauver to me, as it's not just the source code, but a whole matrix of tests, such as temperature, volume of breath sampled, time & compensation since last reading. There could be also be mechanical failures in the sampling pump, the detector etc etc etc.
7. The relationship the alcohol in the blood vs. breath is very well established (2300:1 in most countries)
So the bottom line is, opening the software up is just a crock and invades the companies IP rights.
Prosections should only be allowed if the reading was taked by an IR evedential unit that takes a reading using a NATA reference gas immediatly before and after the specimen sample.
The SPLs refer to peak, not average.
Peak is very different to average.
This is why you see crappy plastic steros advertising 1200W PMPO (Peak Music Power Output), when in fact they are problably 20W RMS(Root Mean Square).
They probably get their peak figure by pulsing a single (inaudable) 10uS square wave into a 1 Ohm load.
Instant peaks can be much higher than normal averaged readings used.
I also rember AC/DC used to use real cannons with percussive loads in their concerts, and although I never went, freinds said they would have ringing in their ears for days after. Perhaps that is the peak referred to!
Yes, noise cancelling headphones would help.
To enjoy music, you normally want it loud enough to bloack out all percievable ambient noise. Generally IMHO this is 20dB above ambient. Thus in a quiet 50dB room, you may be content with 70dB music, which you can listen to all day no probs... but if you are on public transport at say 90db, you may be listening at 105db with normal headphones which will cause damage. Thus by using noise cancelling headphones, you should be able to enjoy your music at lower SPLs (sound pressure levels), and save your hearing from undue stress.
I do sound engineering, and you need to be 6-12dB above ambient noise to hear something clearly. Thus if you are in traffic of 95dB and you headphones cut out say 5dB, you will still need around 100dB. This could be damaging. See the tables below.
.5h 110dB .25h 115dB
Environmental Noise
Weakest sound heard 0dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500' 90dB
Subway train at 200' 95dB
Level at which sustained exposure may result in hearing loss 90 - 95dB
Power mower 107dB
Power saw 110dB
Pain begins 125dB
Pneumatic riveter at 4' 125dB
Jet engine at 100' 140dB
Death of hearing tissue 180dB
Loudest sound possible 194dB
OSHA Daily Permissible Noise Level Exposure
Hours per day Sound level
8h 90dB
6h 92dB
4h 95dB
3h 97dB
2h 100dB
1.5h 102dB
1h 105dB
Perceptions of Increases in Decibel Level
Imperceptible Change 1dB
Barely Perceptible Change 3dB
Clearly Noticeable Change 5dB
About Twice as Loud 10dB
About Four Times as Loud 20dB
Sound Levels of Music
Normal piano practice 60 -70dB
Fortissimo Singer, 3' 70dB
Chamber music, small auditorium 75 - 85dB
Piano Fortissimo 84 - 103dB
Violin 82 - 92dB
Cello 85 -111dB
Oboe 95-112dB
Flute 92 -103dB
Piccolo 90 -106dB
Clarinet 85 - 114dB
French horn 90 - 106dB
Trombone 85 - 114dB
Tympani & bass drum 106dB
Walkman on 5/10 94dB
Symphonic music peak 120 - 137dB
Amplifier rock, 4-6' 120dB
Rock music peak 150dB
Is the USA going mad??
Where is people power?
It's governments duty to restrict the power of corporations which is where you got your antitrust laws. (Via JD Rockefellers standard oil... paradoxically even through JDR's standard oil was the equivalent to todays micro$oft, his philanthropy has made a HUGE difference to medical research and education... so was the bad worth the good??)
but I look at the USA now, and feel genuine sadness of what is happening to a once great country.
Your foreign debt is unsustainable and you are almost at the mercy of foreign Asian banks.
You have destroyed your manufacturing base so now even your two once great car manufacturers have their debt rated at junk.
You are trying to support your petro dollar (ie keeping oil priced in USD) through incursions into Arab countries alienating you from the Muslim world. (and peeving off Europe)
You have your worst ever natural disaster, and from abroad we either think you are a) incompetent in your response, or b) still racist of the poor in the south.
You have a looming unfunded social security nightmare.
Last time I was in New York, I thought.. man the public facilities are looking run down...
What's happening USA??? Believe it or not, you guys hold the world finances together... and it looks like your about to blow it!!
My business could easy afford somthing more complex, but why??
It's received & sent fax's reliably for 5 years.
The exchange mail server works a treat.
The https IIS interface works fine for webmail.
The file server serves files.
The modem pool works.
The backup software works.
It runs on a compaq proliant 1850R with RAID that has never missed a beat, and its easy to manage.
We did have a linux boxen for a while as a gateway on a 1850R, but if you unplugged the keyboard the box would crash!! (not even a kernal panic notice), plus it was a pain to learn all the obscure text based config files. It got replaced by an ADSL modem with built in NAT, Firewall, VPN with nice easy to use web configuration!
The bottom line in business expenditure is to look for value. I don't give a crap if files don't get served at terrabit speeds. If the SBS server was unreliable, I would have replaced it, but in IMHO it fills the niche it was designed for.
You should be banned from slashdot for recommending this POS
Have you ever used this POS?
We have been running SBS4.5 for five years now and the only time I touch the box is to do backups or add remove users/computers. It has been a great solution for our small business.
You have obviously never tried to do any EMC compliance testing. The amount any consumer electronic device is allowed to emit is 30dbuV/m (-76dbm) (quasi peak) measured at 10m. Emperically, this is about the same as a medium to weak terrestial TV signal.
Do you suppose those aircraft windows do much of a job stopping any RF below about 500MHz?, so you can't purely argue faraday cage effect of the aircraft body.
Don't forget, modern jets have zillions of electronics in them from seat phones, entertainment systems, lighting inverters, motor control etc etc.
So your game boy/CD player etc is perfectly safe.
Transmitters are probably safe, but intermodulation effects may cause problems.
And thus you proove again to me the ludicrous claim of evolution.
The permutation of 100 is >9e+157, yet your saying it is possible that the permuations of millions of lines of object code could create a nice gui.
I dare you to write a program that generates 1000 random ASCII characters, and each time parsing it through a c compiler. Do think you would ever see that baby compile??? let alone do anything usefull.
Random biological change only destoys information, and no one has yet given me an example where NEW information is created that also creates new beneficial functinality.
Even billions years in biliogical time is no where near enough to run through the permuations to create a human, let alone the destructve mess of mutants such a process would leave in its wake.
But you said it.
'Its a harmful mutation'
No new information was created.
If the network card in you PC fails, and you stop getting virii, is that a beneficial mutation of your PC??
Yes, I believe in natural selection, but natural selection is exactly that, where evolution is random creation of NEW beneficial information.
You are confusing evolution for natural selection.
Evolutionsists claim that information is increased through random mutations.
Your example of Bad Driving is one of natural selection, which I totally agree with. Natuaral selection, like my example of still birth will often cull and stop the propogation of that negative trait... BUT... natural selection does NOT create any new information.
Is the fact anyone believes in evolution at all !a tions.asp
Come on evolutionsists. Name just ONE example of where genetic mutation increased information and functionality. Geuss what, mutations cause an increase in disorder. eg, I have a genetic condition called osteogenesisimperfecto, or weak bones. Does it cause me to die. No. Does it make me not repoduce. No. Do 'normal' people have it. No. When was the last time you heard of a friend gaining biological functionality!
You are all so blind that you can't see life started out being created with no 'bugs' and has been decaying ever since.
Life is like taking perfect object orientated operating system (way more complex than the zillions of intelligent non random coding hours man has spent) and every few thousand copies or so changing a bit of the object code. Sometimes the result causes death (still birth) because it effects a core piece of the OS, and other times just a nuciance (like my bones). But the undeniable fact is we only observe corruption/decay.
But OK, lets say 1 in 100 times a mutation occurs, something beneficial happens, and of the 99 non beneficial 50% cause death & 50% are a nuciance. Well, holy shit batman! We still have way more decay than beneficial outcomes.
Get a clue people.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/mut
I think this story is showing the age of the / crowd. The original series was every 12 yo boys dream come true. (well I lie, I also liked BuckRodgers .. and StarTrek..Blake7..and what was that british one on the moon?).
Anyway, the one thing I clearly remember from the original was that bl''dy same viper FX shot.. every show... 20 times... Grrrr..
Glad they now have the technology for no repeat FX