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Battlestar Galactica Season 2 This Summer
jangobongo writes "SCI FI Channel announced that the second season of its hit original series Battlestar Galactica will premiere this summer with 20 new episodes, after earlier confirming their commitment to the show. Production will resume in March in Vancouver, B.C., with the entire ensemble cast returning, along with executive producer and writer Ronald D. Moore and executive producer David Eick. Averaging over 3 million viewers per episode, the series has quickly become SCI FI's highest-rated original series. No news on when a UK premeire might occur, but with Battlestar Gallactica ranking number 9 out of the top ten most popular TV program downloads worldwide, I don't think UK fans would have to wait long in any case." They're offering the first episode of the show for viewing in a no-charge commercial free venue on the official site.
But when will season 1 be out on DVD?
Wanna say that word one more time? What's the deal? I mean you are aware this show is a remake right? I still can't believe they made Starbucks a chick.
How we know is more important than what we know.
I know this is the new "thing" and all, but sci fi lost me when they cancled farscape.
And then replaced it with tremors the series.
Those kind of decisions do not sit well with me.
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First they are going to release new episodes of Family Guy, and now this.
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(Not me, I was never a BSG fan... I was a TNG fan)
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I'm not trolling or trying to start a flamewar, but I was severely dissapointed by the new series. As a fan of the original, I didn't like the feel of this nü-Battlestar Galactica.
"Sir, we have about 100 out of work crewmen just now arriving on board, they say they are refugees from something called 'Enterprise.'"
Sweet, I can soon return to my regular habit of downloading both BSG and 24 on Monday nights. I can't wait for it to start especially after that cliffhanger ending. I only hope that they can continue to make interesting episodes, and didn't blow their creative load all on the first season.
Don't make me laugh.
Nothing's original anymore...
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Or finally take advantage of online distribution and supply high-quality downloads themselves (of course containing commercials so they still have a revenue stream).
Possibly the best scifantasy show thats been on TV in a long time, thankyou for giving it a 'full' season run this time round, and kudos to the creators for giving people the ability to download an episode legitimately - lets hope this leads to more!
For someone who watches roughly one hour of TV a WEEK (what's the average TV viewing for Americans now? Six hours a day?), I'm giddy as hell about this. Awwww yeah!!!!! Damn SciFi channel is going to have me planted in front of the TV again.
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Season 2? Where's the rest of Season 1? They've only broadcast 13 episodes. That's all of Season 1? WTF?
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That's funny. I bet mail order DVD rentals are doing really well. With Tivo and 2 dvds in the mail a week means I haven't watched a commercial since I started doing this. I wish all TV episodes would come out on rental almost immediately so if it is good and people are talking about it then I will watch it. As for anyone watching commercials save yourself about 25 minutes of time foreach (perl:) hour program and start using some kind of PVR and in combination mail order DVD rentals. One day I am going to cease paying for cable and go over the air only if the DVD thing pans out.
Shouldn't that be: all your Base Stars are belong to us? Yes, I think it should.
I think the new Battlestar stinks - especially as it's nothing new (more of a cross between the original series and the books).
The whole thing with the imaginary nympho Cylon "queen" is crap.
The dual storyline back on Caprica is pointless.
Come back Enterprise, all is forgiven!
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I found it very interesting.
That's where BitTorrent comes into play, a lot of the yankistanis where downloading BG within hours of it airing in the UK and the reverse applies, we're able to keep up with shows like Lost, Alias and Medium months before they air on the PPV channels over here.
The original series jumped the shark (IMHO) when they went back to 20th century Earth...between the children with super-strength, leaping about like deranged gibbons, and Apollo's and Starbuck's flying motorcycles, it pretty much killed it for me.
Anyway, the reason I post this is because I have avoided watching the new series (on general principles), and I was wondering if anything they've done in the new series is anything near shark-jumpy yet (the human-looking 'cylons' I've seen in the relentless commercials certainly looks to qualify...)
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It can be hard to understand a word they're saying sometimes.
The scientist, the Commander and the President are always whispering their lines. That's a cheap way to try to carry drama - look how well it did for Captain Janeway.
Oh, and, cripes, get a steadycam for the handheld shots. Again, let the writing and acting carry the drama, not cheap tricks with cameras and microphones.
OK, one more, turn down the mix on the "Cylon in my head" theme. I get it.
So far, so good though. They do have me wondering how Starbuck can interface with the ship and what they'll do with a Cylon who doesn't know she's a Cylon. And based on the microscope scene there's a real possibility to do a human-cylon hybrid story arc.
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Should we wait to start the petition-to-save-galactica now or wait another season?
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This is very good news. The only problem is that SciFi couples it with Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis on Friday nights. So, when one should be out partying with an actual human girl, he is staying at home addicted to 3 hours of very good television. Last Sunday, I downloaded and watched the last 6 episodes of Battlestar Galactica. Last night, I saw the last episode of season 8 of Stargate SG-1. I am addicted to these 3 shows. I love every minute of them, and Battlestar Galactica is probably the best Sci Fi show since Babylon 5, maybe even better.
I hope this means they can buy tripods for the cameras now. I found the constant shakey-cam, refocusing, and zooming in and out very distracting.
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...that's insightful, funny, informative or even trollish... but I will go on record as saying this about battlestar galactica going into a second 20 ep. season this summer...
HELL YEAH!
"why don't you just slip into something more comfortable...like a coma!"
Yeah space dawghs. this show is the shit. goes places where STNG used to go with a ST DSN Twist. Really good sci-fi and story telling at its finest
Balter is a fag
Dude, have you seen the chick he's seeing?
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"The entire ensemble cast returns."
I guess that clears up the season cliffhanger. I didn't think it was likely that they would kill off any of the major cast members. (I won't say who it was because I'm too lazy to put up spoiler warnings)
The greatest thing about this new series is how subtle the entire show is. The most subtle thing about this is that the only big difference between the old and the new Starbuck is anatomical.
*Spoiler warning to plot points ahead*
If you notice, the original Starbuck was brash, vulgar (well at least for 1979 TV standards), and even hedonistic. The original Starbuck was a ladies man, but this new one had this fling with Apollo's brother before the war which was passionate and even a bit unwise. They are making it a bit more of a plot point than a character trait but there are ties. Starbuck in both series doesn't give a rats ass about the chain of command except when it really counts. Both are excellent pilots, and both take wild and crazy chances.
I also noticed in the pilot episode, when starbuck is saving apollo in that really crazy manner, Apollo asks her "Are you sure this is going to work?" She replies something along the lines of "Ummm I dunno! I hope!" I don't remember the words but I remember her face. It reminded me so much of same kind of face the original Starbuck would make when ever he had a crazy idea that someone asked him about, it was uncanny.
Okay and I did lie, there is one other important difference. The original series, despite trying to be serious, was still camp. It was network TV after all. This new series is grittier and darker and is less about the quest than it is the individual relationships and the personal journies everyone is taking in trying to survive. It's easy to lose site of the similarities between characters when the over all theme of the show is radically different.
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Anyone know whether SCIFI will rebroadcast the original BG miniseries (by original, I mean the one that kicked off the current series)? My cable company only offered SCIFI with the higher-priced packages, and it was too expensive for only one channel worth watching (unlike my brother-in-law, I don't enjoy having 16 different ESPN stations). I've since switched to satellite, and now I get SCIFI, but I missed the original miniseries.
I could swear that was the building where I bought my morning coffee! :-)
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It's really weird for me watching the Occupied Caprica scenes. They keep showing shots of downtown Vancouver and I keep going "But that's not an alien world! Hey, that's the building I work in!!"
The worst cog-diss was in the pilot at the Market scene. That was the AQ of my alma mater, Simon Fraser University. Nothing ruins the mood of an alien world than locating the benches you used to take naps on between classes.
Do you guys in NY and LA have the same cognitive dissonance when watching your towns subbing for other parts of the world?
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Since the story didn't even bother linking to the online episode and there are no obvious links anywhere that I could find...
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It's a great show and all, but i want a disk with just the hott blonde cylon chick in balthazar's head. .max
p.s. she's hot.
Nice to see Edward James Olmos is part of the cast. After the last episode, I was worried he would not return.
Maybe this time they'll be smart and release the show at the same time around the world.
I know I personally had already finished watching the whole of session 1 when it was barely even starting on Sci Fi.
I wonder how many viewers this cost Sci Fi.
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Nah, I just don't have TiVo yet.
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It's a remix entitled "*BattleStar Galactica-(attention2)".
Last year in September or so, if that's any indication, then fire up your bittorrent app of choice in about 6 months. Not that long a wait between seasons, really, if you've just started watching it.
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Really? They seemed to take a lot more killing than the originals. One shot with a laser pistol and one of the old ones was dead. The new ones can take several hits and keep coming.
No Imperious leader.
Yes, a guy made of paper mache was really intimidating.
No Lucifer.
Oh yes, flashing lightbulb head really made the Cylons seem scary...
Balter is a fag.
I think many of the women (and at least one female Cylon) in the series would disagree with this assessment...
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Having grown up with the original, and seeing the new, it has only changed with the times. An all male hot-dogging pilots just doesn't fly (pardon the pun) in todays world of equal rights and excessive political correctness. So having a female Starbuck really isn't that surprising in this day and age.
The concepts of the Cylons now having evolved beyond the silver armored, red side2side eye, robots is a needed differenation between the old and new. Now that they can look and act human (similar to what we saw in Terminator), opens up the "trust no one". Again similar to the times now, as the so called "war on terror", one doesn't really know who the enemy is.
It's refreshing to see something new in the SciFi arena. BSG hasn't hooked me to the extent that B5 did (with out a doubt my favorate TV sci-fi series.) I'm still enjoying it, and try not to miss an episode.
I personally welcome a second sesason.
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There is a some really bad news about this...
Apparently, Scott Bakula will be taking the helm this season. The producers felt they needed a "name" for the show.
If you've seen the final episode of season 1, you'll understand.
Making Starbuck a female character ruined it. I would welcome female pilots et al, but revisionism for the sake of political correctness blows.
BC
farscape was not 'past its prime'. it was getting huge ratings. they were in the middle of production on a new season. it was cancelled partway through. this was a horrible business decision, not only a horrible artistic decision.
it was cancelled because the new boss at sci fi 'didnt like space shows'.
look it up, its all there on the internet.
Yeah, SciFi fridays make up the bulk of my TV viewing time per week.
I'm glued to the TV from 11 PM to 2 AM (EST) watching Stargate, Stargate Atlantis, and Battlestar Galactica.
Other than that, only times I watch TV are if I manage to catch The Daily Show during the weekdays, or if there's something interesting on C-SPAN on Sundays (I'm a history/political science major, go figure).
Are there any differences between the US and UK showings? I was told the themes were different and some of the shots. True? Why?
Why does this show air in the UK before the US if it's made in America?
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It's standard practice in the US to order reduced 1st Season runs of shows, purely because if the show bombs, you havn't lost as much money pulling it as you would if you had commissioned a full 20+ episode run. 13 episodes is around the standard for a first season - obviously there are a few exceptions, where you can safely assume the premise will be a hit or have the capital to risk. Interestingly, here in the UK most seasons are actually limited to 6, with only the really major dramas getting longer runs (typically 13). I guess that could be because the soap operas in the UK are far more popular than high budget dramas.
Ugh. I hate being the grammar police, but in this case, I can't help it. That post has so many things wrong in regards to spelling, puncutation and grammar, that I have no idea where to start. While no one can be perfect, you could at least TRY to use something that resembles fucking english.
Apparently the intro to the US version is different from the UK version:
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The vocals in the UK theme are the Hindu Gayatri Mantra.
AUM BHOOR BHUWAH SWAHA,
TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM
BHARGO DEVASAYA DHEEMAHI
DHIYO YO NAHA PRACHODAYAT
Translation:
Oh God! Thou art the Giver of Life, Remover of pain and sorrow, The Bestower of happiness, Oh! Creator of the Universe, May we receive thy supreme sin-destroying light, May Thou guide our intellect in the right direction.
the return is coming to a tv station near you ..":
I'm near San Francisco. How many times have we seen it get obliterated in movies? "The Core" was one, and "10.5" was another one that comes to mind.
And why don't any *good* movies blow up San Francisco? God, 10.5 was awful... at least "The Core" was reasonably entertaining on some level...
It's about frackin time!
record them, watch them on monday.
Of course, then you would have no excuse for not having a date.
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I really like the fact that the first episode is freely available on their website so UK viewers can get a taste of the series.
This is a bit off topic, but it would be nice if the last episode of Enterprise could do something similar. I understand the "Save Enterprise" project has raised about $18,000. It'll never get Enterprise saved, but it would be fantastic if the money raised was given to Paramount who would then legally Bittorrent an HDTV copy of the last episode.
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I was a bit surprised that even though the Cylons are the "aliens" (they're actually robots) in the show, almost all the characters look exactly like humans. Not even wrinkled forehead or spotty skin in here.
Looks like I'm already picking up language habits from the show.
:)
I recently started using the term "frack(ing)" as a substitute for the notorious four letter phenomenon. I really had no clue where I picked it up and assumed it was a popular term.
Anyway, I was reading the blog and to my utmost amazement, here's what I found:
Why "frack"? Where did the idea come from to make this the new F-word? Not that I don't like it, I find it amusing."
It's straight out of the original series. I dropped many other terms from the old show like "centon" (a unit of measurement) and "yahren" (year) because I felt they distracted from the mood I was trying to create and they sounded a bit silly to my ear. There was something elegantly lovely about "frak," however. There's nothing like being able to say my favorite four letter word on TV over and over again and I salute Glen Larson for giving the joys of frakking up, frakking off, not giving a frak, and frakking-A to the masses.
Well, now I know where I picked it up, and now I know not to say it too much in public
That makes it my #2 favorite SciFi word (after grok).
Yeah, like why is it so hard to detect a Cylon? Every time a female Cylon has sex, her spine glows like the face plate of my Kenwood car stereo.
I think the answer to building a Cylon detector is obvious.
"SCI FI Channel announced that the second season of its hit original series Battlestar Galactica will premiere this summer..." Last I checked the word original meant something new, something not done before, something creative. Am I the only one who remembers the older, better series.
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you can be a fan of both. Not that you have to, but this I like this, so I don't like that crap on /. is getting old.
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Not physically being in the US I couldn't comment on the themes being different, or some of the shots. But:
... We're still not part of the States just yet! :) .
It's made in Vancouver
Sky One funded half the first season's episodes. One of their conditions for doing so was the right of first showing in the UK.
Actually this fact is quite important to mention, because there have been delays in broadcast and contract negotiations in the past over here, even when dealing with parts of the same network.
Case in point: one year Sky One couldn't show the latest season's episodes of Voyager on time when it turned out Paramount couldn't agree a suitable price with Sky One's media buyers. Totally embarrassing for the latter network, especially as they had already hyped it up in their promotional advertising and had viewers frothing at the mouth for the opener. They had to explain it on air at the last minute, and IIRC it fucked them up for two or three weeks.
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I'm not sure how the portion of this comment that states that BSG has become SCI FI's highest-rated original series can be true
Stargate Atlantis - #2 most downloaded show on the net
Stargate SG-1 - #5 most downloaded show on the net
Aren't both of these original series be SCI-FI? SCI-FI claims they are
Not trolling - just questioning the poster's facts
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I heard from a very reliable source that Dr. Theopolis will make a guest appearance.
In one of the best Brazilian Trek sites (Trek Brasilis) many people often mention "why don't ... ever use the bathroom?".
And I think it's a stupid question, it would be dead time and must be done only if it has a good conection to the rythm of the scene. And it's false. The bathrooms in the Enterprise-D (TNG) quarters are shown often (normally with Berverly or Deanna coming out of it and brushing their hair), in ENT the artificial gravity fails while Archer is taking a shower, Hoshi is shown doing the 22th century equivalent of brushing her teeth in the "catwalk", besides the other examples already mentioned.
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The 1st series has already been shown in the UK on Sky One. We had even watched the complete series before the 1st episode aired in the US.
This because Sky did a deal with Sci Fi, to part fund production.
(And BTW if you want to watch any "geek" show in the UK Sky is really the only option, IMHO)
That's rich coming from someone who's asking for any version of Star Trek to come back, particularly Enterprise. Hasn't Trek set some kind of all time television record for number of old storylines ripped-off? Even when it's good it's maybe the most predictable stuff you can find on television.
Aside from that feel free to think it stinks. I happen to think it's some good stuff but then I also enjoyed this season of Enterprise which has been cancelled just when it was starting to get good. Pity I can't have more of both.
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that single handedly is almost running the show!!!!
enough already. it sucks, it is stupid, lame, it blows monkey nutz.
she is hot yes, maybe she is banging the director but find another role for her on the show.
-jg.
Dudem have you seen the penis she has?
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He's not gay, he's just British.
The bottom line is that sci-fi can't make money like other shows can. That's why they are relgated to channels like sci-fi who are dedicated to sci-fi only... the definition of their channel is the only reason why they take the risk.
First of all, just because they are highly downloaded doesn't mean you are making money. networks make money off of commercials that you have to view. Everything computer geeks try to do often guarentees they don't make money in the current TV model. I'm not saying it's "wrong" or "illegal" to download or record BSG, but when you do that you render the nielson ratings useless because you aren't watching them the normal way. Since all the networks seem to care about is the nielson ratings, these shows die because you aren't being counted as a watcher of the show.
Again NO, I'm not saying go out and watch the commercials to keep BSG alive. Put your flamethrower away. I'm just saying...
Second, sci-fi costs more than reality TV shows, sit-coms, and police/courtroom dramas. There are no special effects, no special sets, and often no need for imagination. Every show is either been done before or is "ripped from the headlines" as Law and Order does waaaay too often now. This cuts into costs. You could do a cheezy show on friday which only gets you half the income (before cost) of enterprise, but if you only have to pay one tenth of the production cost of enterprise to get it on the air, your instantly making more profit.
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I couldn't find anything about what country order they're releasing it in. Will the US get it first round this time or will we have to wait for it? What possible reason do they have at this point (considering its success stateside) for delaying?
And of course there is this game from 1985 (BBC version is original, by Orlando M. Pilchard a.k.a. Nick Pelling).
Personally, I like the handheld camera approach to BSG. It makes the whole show feel more candid and immediate. Also, their decision to do "handheld" CGI space battles is a stroke of genius. It makes all of the CGI feel a lot more realistic than it deserves and it cuts better with the rest of the show. I'm definitely excited about a second season of this innovative series.
Bring back Erin Gray in her youth on Buck Rodgers (VERY tight gray spandex body suit...oh baby) and MAYBE I'll watch that "I'm an alien 'cause I have something glued to my forehead" channel.
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The glowing-spine thing is just a visual plot device. It's not real. It's just TV magic.
At least according to a source I have inside the production. He might be pulling my leg. I pass this information on solely for amusement.
There was really lousy cop show that came out a few years back called "Houston Nights" or something along those lines. I don't watch cop drama but like a lot of people in Houston Texas I watched it when it first came on just because it was filmed here. The experience was actually pretty funny.
Houston's not like a lot of the older big cities in the US. Sure there's a downtown but compared to the inner city in most other towns this size it's tiny. The majority of Houston is spread over a huge flat coastal plain (it's been remarked that you could stand on a beer can and see for miles) and nothing is close to anything else. It's urban sprawl at it's worst. The only night I ever watched Houston Nights they got in their car (downtown) and started driving. On their way from the police station to wherever it was they were going they passed several landmarks that are a good twenty miles apart from one another. They were in the car having a conversation and one second they were driving by the Astrodome, two sentences later they were down by the Johnson Space Center, seconds after that they were driving through the museum district and the Galleria.
If I had their car with it's amazing powers I'd never fear rush hour again!
I thought this must be a little taste of what people in LA, New York, and Chicago get when they watch movies filmed in their towns.
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BSG will be one of the biggest series this year in the UK.
BSG will be cancelled in the US due to low ratings.
Why low ratings in the US? Because everyone who is interested has already downloaded the UK versions 3-4 months before they air in the US.
Why can't the networks think globally?
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If you call can that coffee.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
Hmm, an average of 3 million viewers per episode eh? Surely it can't be from the witty script or awesome acting (or actually lack thereof). Maybe everybody's just really into seeing cylon boobies every five minutes of every episode. I'm sorry, but that entire subplot is boring the living hell out of me.
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A lot of movies are filmed in Charlotte, NC, but always portrayed as some other city, or just a nameless city.
The SciFi Channel is excited about Battlestar Galatica being their highest rated show with 3 million viewers?
Star Trek: Enterprise was cancelled because it had only 2 million viewers.
Please save Enterprise, SciFi Channel, I beg of you!
Curently, my Friday night consists of watching: Enterprise, SG-Atlantis, Battlestar Galatica, and SG-1. Back-To-Back, 4 hours of non-stop SciFi! I will be very upset to only have 3 hours of non-stop SciFi!
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They haven't given into PC -- people still smoke, and Starbuck, although now a girl, still smokes a fat cigar. Wow, wanna talk about your phallic symbols...
Dude, have you seen the chick he's seeing?
I dunno -- he keeps saying he's dating some hot chick, but I have yet to meet her; I think it's all in his head.
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"No news on when a UK premiere might occur, but with Battlestar Galactica ranking number 9 out of the top ten most popular TV program downloads worldwide, I don't think UK fans would have to wait long in any case"
:)
Lucky for the TV Networks they have this easy to read way of measuring comparatively how popular a TV show is, isn't it?
I wish they had provided more than one format for watching the first episode from their website. It only has Real Player format and I no longer load that one after the many problems I've had in the past.
Of course, they know that everyone doesn't use Real, they just want to force us into the collective of monopolistic media players. There must be a cylon/borg/ms cheap shot in here somewhere.
Sigh.
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What bothers me about this series the most is not the actors or the overall plot, just the way it was employed. What do i mean by this? Everything about this series is so close to reality, it barely warrents the term scifi. First, we have the plot device of the week, whose still beating bloddy heart was ripped from last weeks headlines. Witness: Heroic Woman has Breast Cancer and Copes! See: The Justified moral Terrorist! I mean can't we be a little more subtle than THIS?
Moving on from the weak plot, we have a series that is, for all intents and purposes the movie Wing Commander. Go on. Rent it sometime. The similarities are uncanny, and that's not a good thing IMHO. Add on to the fact that the technology is BARELY removed from todays capabilities, asidefrom the hyperdrive element. Fighters with reactionary manuuvering systems? The aircraft carrier in space? I mean hell, it's like a real life aricraft carrier (and i've worked on one). There is just NO suspension of disbelief here and there this series is TOTALLY divorsed from the orighinal Galactica. If they had named this show Wing Commander: the series, it'd be more acceptable, given the heritage, the name is nothing but a thinly veiled attempt at using a franchise name to get viewers.
Now I will give credit to the characters and the mood the writers created. They do a good job in their roles, and the writers have the dark, oppressive atmosphere nailed down perfectly. Again, if this were Wing Commander, it'd be just about perfect. Sadly, this highlight in an otherwise mismatched series goes to waste.
Frankly, I can't stand it, but then, I couldn't stand Stargate when it first began and absolutely love it today.
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If they wanted to save even more money they could make the Cylons invisible! Then they wouldn't even have to pay the actors. Why not make all the actors invisible! Then we could stare at a blank screen for an hour while imagining all the cool stuff that's happening that we can't see. It would have to be better than the screenplays that they use for the current show. Talk about predictable and lame. Let's beat a dead horse to...err, uhhhh...death...
But I don't dig this show that much. Some of the characters are neat but the main plot line of a new breed of "religious" robots just never made sense, though I suppose that's part of the point. Furthermore the implanted cyclone spies generate no sympathy. They should have *never* told you who they were. Now that you know, it's just impossible to feel anything for them or the people surrounding them. In fact, their lack of knowledge of what they are is infuriating and the protectiveness of the real humans they know is too drummed up.
Generally it's just a big soap opera just in space. I'm not sure how to fix it but I know that I like Sci-Fi that tried to underscore philosophical issues, conflicts and approached itself with a prinicpled core. This is just situational surviving, which rarely is principle centered but is often when you need it the most. Apollo is the only one who appears to follow that.
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http://www.tvtome.com/BattlestarGalactica_2004/
Lots more info there along with episode list and synopsis of the entire first season...
Glen A. Larson had some part in the original Knight Rider series and the original BSG series and might explain the scanning red beam-eyes.
I'll just bet you think the old Battlestar was great, and you have a Busk Rogers poster featuring Twiki.
BSG:TOS (ahem) substantially predates Wing Commander. You've got it backwards: Wing Commander is a knockoff of Galactica.
I have been enjoying this show too (it's just started in Australia), but MAN I am VERY, VERY tired of the fake handheld pan and zoom effect in the CG space scenes... Used once or twice (like, once or twice a Season) it can be effective... but EVERY SINGLE shot in space has the damn "whip zoom, jiggle, centre" type shots in it, and it's gets VERY annoying... it basically smacks of complete lack of creativity in the direction of these scenes... there is a time and a place for all things, and there can be a lot of nice, steady shots done people... it CAN work... watch some good Sci Fi movies, or even some good war movies to see how to do it... and STOP the damn effect.
I am a big sci fi fan like most of you and have followed several series through the years. I gotta say I think bsg75 is one of the best. For those who can't or don't get 'sci-fi channel' (like me) - I can tell you that the first season was available several months before it was out in the us. I believe it was aired on a (british?) satellite network called 'skyone'. A friend of mine finds torrents for these episodes and brings them over. For those who said the first season was short, keep in mind that the first 3 episodes appeared seperately in the form of a 'mini-series'. One curious note - I don't believe that the us version of the show goes to the 'BSG 75' emblem on the way in and out of commercial breaks. I am not sure what BSG 75 refers to, anyone know? Also, the 'chorus vocals' that are in the tribal drumming part of the intro song (on the skyone episodes) is missing in the us theme - kind of weird. That's all I have - check the show out, its great.
A S:AAB remake would be better IMO.
But that's just me... Does anyone else remember Space: Above and Beyond?
SCI FI Channel announced that the second season of its hit original series Battlestar Galactica No that would be a remake of an original series, even though they FUBARed the remake in my opinion.
You mean the cool one that lets him bang all the other chicks??
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But ... this is space opera. I like to read a few good space operas every year. But it's largely 1940's or earlier type stuff. Not even up to the best of Golden Age SciFi. A top-notch presentation of space opera, for sure. But space opera is not the top of the SciFi universe. The plot and characterization here doesn't come close to Heinlein, Zelazny, Dick, Robinson, Wolf, Gibson....
In many respects the sets give the feel of being in a World War II movie. Again, this is stuff I'll watch, gladly. But when will we finally have a SciFi series as brilliant as the best of the genre, and less wedded to the conventions of a military command structure somewhere, or even the conventions of those fleeing/fighting a military command structure somewhere? Like, wow, here we get both!?
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So this is some more the that un-technobabble they supposedly are not using so they dont have to explain all the gaping plot holes.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
Um. What's the deal, are you just a troll? I looked at your posting history. You haven't posted a single interesting, or even meaningful, comment in this thread.
I think you're just a troll. I wish I'd known that before I wasted my time explaining the history of motion-picture cameras to you.
What I find interesting is the number of people in this thread defending BSG as a really good show. When Enterprise began, the reaction was really lukewarm, but I don't remember there being as many people trying to defend it. There weren't even that many ENT apologists in the "Enterprise is canceled" threads. Go to someplace like TrekBBS, of course, and the collective opinion will be radically different. But threads like this, I think, give a much better indication of whether or not the general sci-fi audience likes a specific show.
Add on to the fact that the technology is BARELY removed from todays capabilities, asidefrom the hyperdrive element. Fighters with reactionary manuuvering systems? The aircraft carrier in space? I mean hell, it's like a real life aricraft carrier (and i've worked on one).
Galactica was intentionally built to be low-tech. They explained why in the mini-series.
Galactica was built to defend against an enemy that could override computer systems and disrupt electrical systems. That's the reason it survived the initial Cylon assault and nearly every other human ship did not. All the modern ships (like the Vipers in the mini-series) had their systems taken over and shutdown.
Let's not forget where he was assigned - to an out-of-date Battlestar that was being commissioned. He was never supposed to be a great commander or even a good one. If he were, he wouldn't have been where he was.
Galactica is the Siberia that the cruft of the military were assigned to. Thus the alcoholic XO, their best pilot can't respect authority, crew members sleeping with subourdinates, etc.
Some editing changes were made to the UK version. The obvious one that sprang to mind was in '33' in the Ready Room where Starbuck is addressing the pilots with Boxy as straightman - the UK version had Starbuck's masturbation references removed.
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I finally gave in to the pressure from fans telling me how much better than Star Trek the BSG was so I tuned in. At the wrong time. And started watching Stargate: Atlantis. It realy is an enjoyable show so far but unfortunately I was unimpressed by Battlestar itself. Cylons are Asian women who scowl now? I liked the chromed robots better. But for the sake of those who enjoy it I hope it has a long run!
Sometimes at night I imagine the darkness is filled with horrible things with too many teeth, like Julia Roberts.
I keep trying to find BG torrents but I can only find ones for the last eps of Season 1. Seems like nobody captures the eps from the Sci-Fi channel and I need to see eps 4-13.
Any recommendations on how to get those episodes? btefnet definitely is not a good source for BG eps, and neither is the Torrent Reactor site.
Thanks.
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OK I am giving up mod points to ask this, what does everybody see in BattleStar Galactica?
The mini-series was on in OZ a couple of weeks back and I wasn't entirely convinced. For the first night I was wondering why nobody had noticed that the Cylons had destroyed that Human Cylon meeting place/station. Shouldn't they have detected them on radar? Alerted the fleet? Or ar we to believe that that single ambassador was the *only* person on the entire station? If the station had no importance, they why include it? Just to let the viewers know that a Cylon attack was coming? We already knew that!
The second night ended unexpectadly for me, it seemed it was building up to a climax that never happened. Was the climax the destruction of a ship with ~1300 people, where the only connection we had with that ship, that loss, was one little girl who we saw for 30 seconds? Or was the climax the reporter who was left on the ammo dump who turned out to be a Cylon?
A couple of nights ago I saw the first episode, and from what I had heard the series is better than the mini-series. I didn't think so. I was left wanting to like the show but not seeing much that grabs my attention. To me the acting seems a little wooden, but I can overlook that, the actors are after all still settleing in to a new role/show. Likewise I can accept that the story has a burdon of setting up the setting for the rest of the season. But at the moment I haven't found any attachment to the characters. the ship or anything.
I am surprised though that they managed to resist inserting some half-assed excuse for Starbuck to be stripped half naked (aka T'Pol and almost every episode of Enterprise). I have watched a fair amount of sci-fi in my time and found things to like in most (if not all) but I just can see what the appeal is in Battlestar Galactica.
Please tell me I missed something, please tell me it gets better...
The only problem is that SciFi couples it with Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis on Friday nights. So, when one should be out partying with an actual human girl, he is staying at home addicted to 3 hours of very good television.
Don't forget the all-new episodes of Andromeda - that makes a total of 4 consecutive hours of SciFi every Friday night.
And there are some very hot chicks on that show.
they have a torrent of bsg season one including the mini series on torrent spy as one download. however it is pretty slow
I admit I have only watched a couple of the episodes, but I am confused by the Cylon's and why they seem to be toying with the humans so much. The human on Caprica is being toyed with by the asian chick cylong and the Baltair (sp?) is mentally dominated by the blonde chick cylon. Why don't they just kill the humans?
I have to correct you that West Wing has regularly had 22 episodes per season since it's start back in Sept of 1999. The only deviations have been "Specialty" episodes (like interview show with actual former WW staff & inhabitants). And 22 was the magical number in my other obsessive TV show, Babylon 5.
hopefully in the next season they'll have sacked whoever pushed for the extreme closeup/camera shake action - makes me want to punch something.
Great, just great.
We lose Enterprise just when a Battlestar is headed this way...
Torrents never last long. Don't you know that? Try Emule/Edonkey. Yes it's slow, but it's better than nothing.
Changes for Season 2:
- Starbuck and Boomer are re-cast as male characters, but stay in touch with their feminine side.
- The Cylons turn out to be a race of sophisticated robots who were only pretending to be clones. To intimidate the humans they develop chromium armor and start speaking in metallic voices.
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To your "explanation of camera history" (it's kinda sparse so you did not use that much time). Please see my response.
The reason I replied to your post was about the whole post. How can it be a visual plot device (meaning it's essential to the plot) but be "not real, TV magic" Maybe I don't get what you mean but it seems a lot like the "I don't have to explain 33 because that would be technobabble thing. I view it as an anti-technobabble technobabble that does IN MY VIEW leave some holes that you need explained (more then just the why 33 issue, I agree with other posters about cylons drinking too much rolling rock). Your Mileage Obviously Varied. To me it looks like they are shying away from any technical explanation or science in things and calling attempts at such "technobabble". It's only technobabble when it does not mean anything or explain anything in a meaningful way.
As for the troll bit, I am a fan of both BSG shows, I am more critical of this new one, because frankly the old one is a dead horse and back in the 80's everyone got in about every useful or useless criticism I can think of. Another reason I tend to be a bit sarcastic is I am also a fan of enterprise, and I got a bit pissed off by morons who couldn't keep the BSG fanboyism out of the last few months of Enterprise stories. I'm not saying BSG should not be mentioned in discussion, but most people simply were in there to bash Enterprise and only say BSG is bestest ebber.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
Didn't *Star Wars* derive inspiration *from* Battlestar Galactica?
I think even worse was the location where they filmed Episode 11.
The UBC Rose Garden and Chan Centre are prominently featured in this episode. With a majority of scenes at the Chan Centre both inside and in the hallway outside the main auditorium.
They also showed the grass divider down main mall. Canada flag missing from the flag pole.
The worse was when they suddenly "switched" back to Cylon-Occupied Caprica and they were showing Koerner library. One of my co-workers made a comment that I agree with and that was that it's not a military base it's the library with a heavy blue lens filter.
Nope, not pleasant when you walk by the library on your way to class and you're like: "That's where Helo killed a Boomer clone".
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Despite it all, I'm still in love with the show.