It sounds like the board actually is "cheap". I havn't tried it so I won't judge it. The 3 port USB sounds interesting if you really need that many. It might be handy if you run USB kb & mouse, and then need one more for a camera or somthing.
All program writers just don't but the fscking backdoor in the code! There. Its that simple. If nobody will put in the backdoor. What will the US gov do? Arrest all crypto programmers in the world?
Ive been working on a text based message program (uses port 3332) on TCP in which 2-4 users can chat over any UNIX boxen. It contains a 48 bit crypto algorythem. Its similar to YTalk with cryptography. I am not putting any backdoor in my software just because the US gov decides they don't like not being able to control the world. Its closed source(Please don't flame) but it is effective, but not yet finished.
People have DIED FOR FREEDOM. There is nothing you can do or say to argue that. I will die for my right to sit @ home & type this without being wiretapped, and monitored by some fatass grubby FBI agent (Oh. Yes! I can say that in this country.) eating a fish sandwich. People have died for my right to say what I just said. And I will gladly lay down my life for my grandchildren to be able to say it also. If you don't like it, then go live in another country that has no freedom, like China. Lets see how you like it there. I will die so you can say the same thing.
But I will NOT sit around and let my governemnt take away my rights. Those %60 that voted on that CNN site deserve no freedoms. If they want their freedom taken away at ALL then they are not American's and have NO buisiness being here. Go Live in China all you Anti-Freedom lovers. I will die for my freedom. Why won't you?
Why waste $ on RAM when it can be used for something USEFUL, instead of running some pretty UI? And how much does that w2k box use swap when running @ 64mb ram? It won't even boot off 48mb ram.
The point is I don't need a larger machine to run bloatware when I have a smaller machine that does fine running what it runs at the same speed as your larger one. You are just wasting your $ on nothing.
Specs: 300mhz PII w/512k Cache (Klamath) | 352mb RAM PC 100. 10gig & 8gig HDs, 613mb Swap. The last good uptime was 325 days. The last uptime was 32 untill I put in a new motherboard.
OS: Linux 2.4.9 / Slackware 8
Threading: 14 pages per second running Apache 1.3.20.
No. My kernel is not tweaked, but yours WOULD have to be to match it. But you can't. Yours is closed-source.
Lets put it this way. My OS requires 8mb RAM.
Yours requires 128mb RAM. Who's OS is bloated?
Less time than Linux? heh. Im running a K6-2 550.
I can boot linux in 6.3 seconds. How long does yours boot? 10? 15 seconds? HA.
WOW. Driver rollback. Lets see, Linux has had this for.... YEARS. Its called modules! Looks like it took M$ YEARS to catch up on technology to me.
A firewally that comes with the OS? Unix has had this for years also, Its called ipchains. M$ has just now cought up.
I don't know about you, but I don't want an OS to run 64mb ram by itself. Mine runs around 12mb RAM on boot with only Apache running. I can spend $20 on more RAM than having to spend it on the previous MORE that you are refering to. That means I can do MORE with my system,a nd use less resources than you. Im still running a PII 300 512k Cache box w/352mb RAM running Linux. 2.4.9.
W2k won't even boot with 300mhz. Mine runs perfectly. Even the last specs I was running 200mhz/48mb ram ran Linux fine. w2k with the same services running wouln't even boot. So why would I bloat my system up when I can run it lighter & faster?
My system is much faster now that im running 2.4.9
Ive had remote support such as SSH, Telnet, and Java telnet. How much bandwidth does youre remote access take up? 10 megabits of bandwidth? Mine takes up 2400 baud.
Our local news: It seems that every time M$ releases a new OS they just dance around it. Its very funny. For example when winme came out, they danced around it like it was their god. Now it turns out its not 1/2 as stable as the previous 9x. They say: Oh well, Win2000 is better. But yet they failed to report CodeRed, and just ignored it so they won't 'scratch their little M$ god's name'. The average person is dumb. As 'geeks' most of us know that.
Since FreeBSD & Slackware are both made by the same company, I am wondering how this will affect Slackware? If it will at all?
As a Slackware advocate, and former *BSD user I really hate to see somthing like this happen. Slackware is a GOOD system that basicly is a BSD system running a Linux architecture. Ive seen FBSD 4.3 and its quite nice, even though I don't use FBSD, I can't help but to wonder about how/if this will affect their other projects.
Slackware baby yea !!! I started using Slackware at version 3.3. And am now using 7.0 w/updates from slackware-current. This is a great time. Thanks Slackware team. Keep up the good work !!!
1. Chinese food. No soul food here.
1. I'm no punk bitch !!!
2. I'm no punk bitch neither !!!
I have no problem with BSD, and have been using Linux for over 4 years now & run my site securly with it. I run BSD on a P90 to play with. The only thing I have against BSD is the people who use it, and complain when Linux beats them in the market.
I am against M$. Yes, I am. I use Win2000 on my workstation & tops @24 day uptime, wich isn't 1/2 of the OpenBSD box, or 1/15th of the Linuxbox's. Win2000 may, or may not have a BSD TCP/IP stack in it. But according to the Duke Of URL's postings a LONG time ago, Linux 2.2 & 2.4 beat 2000, which makes me believe that either BSD needs work, or 2000 needs work.
1. Chinese food. No soul food here.
1. I'm no punk bitch !!!
2. I'm no punk bitch neither !!!
I get both stuff from companys, and made up crap.
Im persuing sueing one company how for about 4 spams ($2000), and a spammer on popsite.net for $3500. Some mortgage crap, and credit crap. I guess its because of all those banner ads while I had cookies on for a bit. Ive figured ways to block most of them via router now.
Sometimes I look at my sendmail log and get crap from some unresolvable domain. One time they emailed my name server which of course doesn't exist in the sendmail.cf therefor it was rejected. They make up names, and fecth them with their little web harvesters, so if your email address is posted anywhere visible to the net more than likley its because of a harvester.
Im about to flood a spammer with a mailbomb here in a minute. It fills up their return list where they can't get any replys from any person requesting their fake so called 'info' about what they are selling, or trying to rip people out of. Its usually somthing like bulk-list2002@yahoo.com or some crap like that. Im also about to put up a filter that filters out names like yahoo, netscape.net, and hotmail.com, in the body, or subject of the letter.
I have to agree with you both. It partly is the user's fault for signing up for these things. Lets not kid ourselves here. Companys do send this crap, and re-sell addresses.
But there are those little 14 year olds standing out there that just send this crap to anything they see. Search engines, pages, havest addresses from pages. Whatever the hell method they use. It is all still wrong, and highly Illegal. I have already had 2-3 spammers kicked off of their ISP's this week, and am going after a company that has sent me spam only once. There was another in which they recieved a warning from their provider, and I asked the provider to tell them who turned them in for sending spam. And the provider told them. And I havn't recieved a spam from them again. I even had one moron that (after looking at my sendmail logs) tried to send a spam to customer@ns.(myserver).net. I mean... ns.(myserver).net is not in my sendmail records, and there is no user called 'customer' on my box. Even if my server does run all these services, ns.(myserver).net is not meant for mail.
The point is, It can be the user's fault, but it can also be dynamic, spammers just make up addresses and send this crap. Ive been on the net since around '95-'96, and started using UNIX/Linux around '97. And only this year I started getting bombarded with spam. Thats why I have spam filter 213 lines long. I havn't gotten any spam today, so I believe I have ridden myself of the MAIN sources.
Actually I find that MOST Unix/Linux users build their own machines. I only have a PIII that I bought from Compaq, with a blank HD, and put Debian on it. Runs fine, been up over 230 days.
I have to agree with you %100.
Let me tell you a little story too.
One day I was working on a Win2000 machine for an employee. It was his "Personal Server". Get that? Personal Server.:) As it turns out his main-page was completely defaced. (He paid $830 for this OS). Now what had happened was someone used an exploit a bug in IIS's Unicode.(sound familiar?) And had completley wiped out EVERYTHING in his webdir, and had deleted almost 1/2 of his D: drive. I told him I wasn't going to even touch it because of the simple FACT that Ms servers arn't allowed on the network. I told him if he was going to put up a server, go download RedHat, Madnrake, Suse, Slackware, Debian, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, go buy Solaris, OR SOMTHING, and run Apache like most of the net does. I made the policy, and I stand by it every inch.
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BSDI must be %40 of that %6.1 I keep hearing about on Netcraft.
It sounds like the board actually is "cheap". I havn't tried it so I won't judge it. The 3 port USB sounds interesting if you really need that many. It might be handy if you run USB kb & mouse, and then need one more for a camera or somthing.
All program writers just don't but the fscking backdoor in the code! There. Its that simple. If nobody will put in the backdoor. What will the US gov do? Arrest all crypto programmers in the world?
Ive been working on a text based message program (uses port 3332) on TCP in which 2-4 users can chat over any UNIX boxen. It contains a 48 bit crypto algorythem. Its similar to YTalk with cryptography. I am not putting any backdoor in my software just because the US gov decides they don't like not being able to control the world. Its closed source(Please don't flame) but it is effective, but not yet finished.
People have DIED FOR FREEDOM. There is nothing you can do or say to argue that. I will die for my right to sit @ home & type this without being wiretapped, and monitored by some fatass grubby FBI agent (Oh. Yes! I can say that in this country.) eating a fish sandwich. People have died for my right to say what I just said. And I will gladly lay down my life for my grandchildren to be able to say it also. If you don't like it, then go live in another country that has no freedom, like China. Lets see how you like it there. I will die so you can say the same thing.
But I will NOT sit around and let my governemnt take away my rights. Those %60 that voted on that CNN site deserve no freedoms. If they want their freedom taken away at ALL then they are not American's and have NO buisiness being here. Go Live in China all you Anti-Freedom lovers. I will die for my freedom. Why won't you?
Why waste $ on RAM when it can be used for something USEFUL, instead of running some pretty UI? And how much does that w2k box use swap when running @ 64mb ram? It won't even boot off 48mb ram.
The point is I don't need a larger machine to run bloatware when I have a smaller machine that does fine running what it runs at the same speed as your larger one. You are just wasting your $ on nothing.
Specs: 300mhz PII w/512k Cache (Klamath) | 352mb RAM PC 100. 10gig & 8gig HDs, 613mb Swap. The last good uptime was 325 days. The last uptime was 32 untill I put in a new motherboard.
OS: Linux 2.4.9 / Slackware 8
Threading: 14 pages per second running Apache 1.3.20.
No. My kernel is not tweaked, but yours WOULD have to be to match it. But you can't. Yours is closed-source.
Lets put it this way. My OS requires 8mb RAM.
Yours requires 128mb RAM. Who's OS is bloated?
Less time than Linux? heh. Im running a K6-2 550.
I can boot linux in 6.3 seconds. How long does yours boot? 10? 15 seconds? HA.
WOW. Driver rollback. Lets see, Linux has had this for.... YEARS. Its called modules! Looks like it took M$ YEARS to catch up on technology to me.
A firewally that comes with the OS? Unix has had this for years also, Its called ipchains. M$ has just now cought up.
I don't know about you, but I don't want an OS to run 64mb ram by itself. Mine runs around 12mb RAM on boot with only Apache running. I can spend $20 on more RAM than having to spend it on the previous MORE that you are refering to. That means I can do MORE with my system,a nd use less resources than you. Im still running a PII 300 512k Cache box w/352mb RAM running Linux. 2.4.9.
W2k won't even boot with 300mhz. Mine runs perfectly. Even the last specs I was running 200mhz/48mb ram ran Linux fine. w2k with the same services running wouln't even boot. So why would I bloat my system up when I can run it lighter & faster?
My system is much faster now that im running 2.4.9
Ive had remote support such as SSH, Telnet, and Java telnet. How much bandwidth does youre remote access take up? 10 megabits of bandwidth? Mine takes up 2400 baud.
YES. Your OS is bloated.
Mode me down & I mod you down.
Our local news: It seems that every time M$ releases a new OS they just dance around it. Its very funny. For example when winme came out, they danced around it like it was their god. Now it turns out its not 1/2 as stable as the previous 9x. They say: Oh well, Win2000 is better. But yet they failed to report CodeRed, and just ignored it so they won't 'scratch their little M$ god's name'. The average person is dumb. As 'geeks' most of us know that.
Since FreeBSD & Slackware are both made by the same company, I am wondering how this will affect Slackware? If it will at all?
As a Slackware advocate, and former *BSD user I really hate to see somthing like this happen. Slackware is a GOOD system that basicly is a BSD system running a Linux architecture. Ive seen FBSD 4.3 and its quite nice, even though I don't use FBSD, I can't help but to wonder about how/if this will affect their other projects.
... someone put Linux 2.4.x, or FreeBSD 4.3 on XBox. Lokigames would have fun with that. :)
Just another way to violate privacy. More spam. More Spammers. More trouble.
Ive never heard of an ISP that does that. Any particular ones that do? I would assume somthing like AOL, MSN, or some other big, low support ISP.
1. Chinese food. No soul food here.
1. I'm no punk bitch !!!
2. I'm no punk bitch neither !!!
Slackware baby yea !!! I started using Slackware at version 3.3. And am now using 7.0 w/updates from slackware-current. This is a great time. Thanks Slackware team. Keep up the good work !!!
1. Chinese food. No soul food here.
1. I'm no punk bitch !!!
2. I'm no punk bitch neither !!!
The above is not meant to troll, or start a flame war.
1. Chinese food. No soul food here.
1. I'm no punk bitch !!!
2. I'm no punk bitch neither !!!
I have no problem with BSD, and have been using Linux for over 4 years now & run my site securly with it. I run BSD on a P90 to play with. The only thing I have against BSD is the people who use it, and complain when Linux beats them in the market.
I am against M$. Yes, I am. I use Win2000 on my workstation & tops @24 day uptime, wich isn't 1/2 of the OpenBSD box, or 1/15th of the Linuxbox's. Win2000 may, or may not have a BSD TCP/IP stack in it. But according to the Duke Of URL's postings a LONG time ago, Linux 2.2 & 2.4 beat 2000, which makes me believe that either BSD needs work, or 2000 needs work.
1. Chinese food. No soul food here.
1. I'm no punk bitch !!!
2. I'm no punk bitch neither !!!
I get both stuff from companys, and made up crap.
Im persuing sueing one company how for about 4 spams ($2000), and a spammer on popsite.net for $3500. Some mortgage crap, and credit crap. I guess its because of all those banner ads while I had cookies on for a bit. Ive figured ways to block most of them via router now.
Sometimes I look at my sendmail log and get crap from some unresolvable domain. One time they emailed my name server which of course doesn't exist in the sendmail.cf therefor it was rejected. They make up names, and fecth them with their little web harvesters, so if your email address is posted anywhere visible to the net more than likley its because of a harvester.
Im about to flood a spammer with a mailbomb here in a minute. It fills up their return list where they can't get any replys from any person requesting their fake so called 'info' about what they are selling, or trying to rip people out of. Its usually somthing like bulk-list2002@yahoo.com or some crap like that. Im also about to put up a filter that filters out names like yahoo, netscape.net, and hotmail.com, in the body, or subject of the letter.
I just can't do it captain... I don't have the power!
1. Chinese food. No soul food here.
1. I'm no punk bitch !!!
2. I'm no punk bitch neither !!!
I have to agree with you both. It partly is the user's fault for signing up for these things. Lets not kid ourselves here. Companys do send this crap, and re-sell addresses.
But there are those little 14 year olds standing out there that just send this crap to anything they see. Search engines, pages, havest addresses from pages. Whatever the hell method they use. It is all still wrong, and highly Illegal . I have already had 2-3 spammers kicked off of their ISP's this week, and am going after a company that has sent me spam only once. There was another in which they recieved a warning from their provider, and I asked the provider to tell them who turned them in for sending spam. And the provider told them. And I havn't recieved a spam from them again. I even had one moron that (after looking at my sendmail logs) tried to send a spam to customer@ns.(myserver).net. I mean... ns.(myserver).net is not in my sendmail records, and there is no user called 'customer' on my box. Even if my server does run all these services, ns.(myserver).net is not meant for mail.
The point is, It can be the user's fault, but it can also be dynamic, spammers just make up addresses and send this crap. Ive been on the net since around '95-'96, and started using UNIX/Linux around '97. And only this year I started getting bombarded with spam. Thats why I have spam filter 213 lines long. I havn't gotten any spam today, so I believe I have ridden myself of the MAIN sources.
So you are saying its kind of like Novell's advertising? They are desperate?
No. M$ is PackMan, and the little ghosts are all the companys they bought out. :)
Or M$ could rename their thing to ZBox. :)
"The only risk is that Microsoft might try to replace say, html, with their own proprietary system that only runs on Windows."
In which case THEIR standard will fail. We've seen them fail with things like that before.
XML standards? Actually Mozilla IS. IE is not up to date with standards. It only works with M$ standards, not REAL standards.
Actually I find that MOST Unix/Linux users build their own machines. I only have a PIII that I bought from Compaq, with a blank HD, and put Debian on it. Runs fine, been up over 230 days.
http://www.icc.cc.ms.us/
:)
Have fun guys.
I have to agree with you %100. Let me tell you a little story too.
:) As it turns out his main-page was completely defaced. (He paid $830 for this OS). Now what had happened was someone used an exploit a bug in IIS's Unicode.(sound familiar?) And had completley wiped out EVERYTHING in his webdir, and had deleted almost 1/2 of his D: drive. I told him I wasn't going to even touch it because of the simple FACT that Ms servers arn't allowed on the network. I told him if he was going to put up a server, go download RedHat, Madnrake, Suse, Slackware, Debian, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, go buy Solaris, OR SOMTHING, and run Apache like most of the net does. I made the policy, and I stand by it every inch.
One day I was working on a Win2000 machine for an employee. It was his "Personal Server". Get that? Personal Server.