Um, if you click the 'Open Mail' button that is right under the 'OK' button, you will stay in Notes instead of switching back to wherever you came from.
Yeah, we see how well the 'vote with your dollars' strategy works. Think CrackerBarrel. Think Abercrombie and Fitch.
Or for that matter, think of the RIAA and the MPAA - how many of us actually don't purchase their products based on their practices? How much of a dent has it really made? Obviously not enough to make a difference in how they act - and they've probably pissed off way more people through their actions than would be pissed off at some racial/sexual/genetic slighting.
I'm all for spending money to support - or not support - companies who hold positions I agree or disagree with, but the damage that can be done through discrimination based on genetics may not be undone through just purchasing power.
Actually, the/. blurb is misleading - the article actually says that they simply won't help you remove it, not that it comes preloaded.
Makes sense in a way, given that attempted removal of spyware can take other stuff down with it. Not super-friendly tech support, but understandable, I guess.
That's not unusual at all, nor is it unique to technical fields. Many universities require their professors to have done time at another institution - keeps things from getting stale.
It's happening to me and my husband too - funny how 'in this job market' we are having to turn down work...
We're in the process of remodeling our basement so my husband can work down there, he's currently set up shop in the useless front room (you know the one, the room with all the nice furniture that everyone's afraid to sit on? well, we don't have any of that furniture) but we really need to move his stuff to someplace where he can concentrate a little more and crank the tunes if he needs to. After my son walked up and turn the power off on his computer while he was working a short time ago, I think my husband is going to be putting a rush on completing the basement.
I just test and document the stuff, I don't need to think or concentrate, so I just carry a laptop wherever. I do have my own room set up, I hardly ever use it though - but it's too small to move my husband into.
The guy apparently stole three computers, one laptop and two desktops. The banking information may have been on the desktops, not the laptops.
I work in an environment where we have to be concerned about client confidentiality, but I also have a dialup account on my laptop for a couple of reasons - one, because I sometimes have to bring non-sensitive documentation home with me (I store anything sensitive on our network, so if anyone walks off with my laptop, they get nothing), and two, because it really sucks for my ability to get to our network to die when I am on a deadline, so I can use my dialup with my analog line. Not to mention, it's nice when I'm not on a deadline and the network goes down to be able to spend some time goofing off.
The security of this situation depends on the user and his/her computer smarts - maybe you're making some assumptions because the user had an AOL account? But you can't really do much about someone just breaking in and stealing the actual hardware. In this case, it turned out to be a *good* thing that there was a dialup account available.
And next thing you know, you're a consulting firm!
If you don't want to spend the money for an office, why not try going out for a quick walk before you begin work for the day and another walk when you end work for the day. Might provide an easy delinearization of what stays where...
You've missed the point - claiming ignorance of the law is not an excuse. There is more than enough advertising, news stories, etc., to alert people to the fact that copyright infringement is illegal and will be prosecuted - I would go so far as to say than in a given day you are about as likely (if not more likely) to see some sort of alert that copyright infringement is prosecutable as you are to see ads that you shouldn't drink and drive, holidays excluded - matter of fact, I can't think of ANY other prosecutable activity that currently gets as much publicity as copyright infringement.
Do you REALLY think that someone who knew enough to find and use Kazaa didn't know that there was something illegal about some of the things you could do with it? The girl claimed that Kazaa didn't display a warning that it could be used illegally and so she didn't know that she was doing anything wrong - this is the kind of reasoning that has led to warnings not to use curling irons when asleep or electric hairdryers while showering.
The rights and wrongs of this are a separate issue - I pointed out that ignorance of the law was not an excuse, and the level of awareness on this should be as high as drunk driving given all the press copyright infringement has been given. Instead of noting this, you threw up a strawman argument that drinking and driving kills people but copyright infringement doesn't.
If you don't like the law, change the law, but don't play stupid when you get caught. We may not all agree that all laws are reasonable, but by choosing to break the law one should be ready to accept the consequences, regardless of what you may think of the reasonableness of the law. It's part of living within a society.
Next time, please try to engage in logical argument instead of stooping to namecalling. Namecalling distracts from any good arguments you may have and makes people less likely to listen to your message.
Here, read this - this is apparently what they teach the kids in school in Washington state.
Something to consider when some of the kids that read this think they aren't hurting anyone - even if the law is 'stupid', even if the RIAA is a bunch of 'idiots', you could end up costing your parents money that could be going to your first car, your college fund, hell, even to put food on the table like in the case of the 12-year-old they went after a few months ago.
I still don't understand WTF these parents are thinking, not supervising their kids' internet usage. Isn't a parental lack of appropriate supervision and guidance considered neglect?
And I am SICK and TIRED of people getting caught and whining 'I didn't know' - why don't I get drunk and go out driving, I can just say I didn't know it was against the law. Whether I hurt someone or not, I'd still get taken in if I got pulled over. Why? Because it's against the law. Never mind that lots of people drink and drive all the time, some so much that they drive better than when sober, it's still against the law. There has been a TON of publicity about music piracy and filesharing and the consequences, how can anyone who is Net-knowledgeable enough to find and use Kazaa pretend that they have never seen any indication that they might be breaking the law???
I agree, I had Qwest's service desk along with the appropriate codes to get to repair on my cellphone so I could do one-touch repair calling while driving - much safer than trying to punch in codes while driving.
But then my cell phone died (not kidding) - five times.
He is kind of a loudmouth, but more in a construction-worker sort of way than in an asshole sort of way. I don't know how to explain it any better than that - he doesn't seem to spout off about stuff he doesn't know, and a lot of the time he steps back and lets the guys get their jobs done. I have much more tolerance for someone who knows what they're doing and spouts off than someone who doesn't know what they're doing and spouts off.
It's fun to watch as long as you don't take him seriously - and I get the feeling he doesn't take himself seriously.
Man, we really HAVE gotten this offtopic, haven't we?
Yes, indeed...it IS hypocritical to claim to be in favor of womens' rights and equality in the workplace but when someone sues you for sexual harassment, to lie through your teeth about your behavior.
GOD damned fucking HYPOCRITES!
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They give you comp time? Do you get to take it? If so, I'm jealous...
You're forgetting option three: you've never been involved in a project big or important enough to involve political problems. Who notices the mail guy?
You do what I do...if they don't put it in writing, you were never told to do it. I have sent out e-mails that say "If I don't get written documentation that this is supposed to be XXX way, it's going to ship YYY way" and make sure that YYY is awful enough that they sure don't want that to happen.
Anyone who would reply to an e-mail with a telephone call sure isn't a geek anyway - geeks generally prefer things in black and white.
Does anyone really want to take the chance that Eolas won't decide that their browser is part of the next Evil Empire and go after them for half a billion dollars? Especially since Eolas could claim "You should have known I'd come after you, I went after Microsoft and won five years ago, what made you think I couldn't win against little old YOU?"
I don't think I would be including this technology in my apps unless I had written permission...too risky.
I know I'm being redundant here to an earlier post that I made, but I shouldn't have to tell so many people to RTFA (or in this case, the link in the parent post). You are arguing for the sake of arguing instead of trying to actually understand the issues. Read the law, read the commentary on the law, and then you may be able to post intelligently.
From infoAnarchy, it "appears to be a work print copy" which would imply that someone copied it, possibly onto their own media which would mean no physical theft.
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Um, if you click the 'Open Mail' button that is right under the 'OK' button, you will stay in Notes instead of switching back to wherever you came from.
Yeah, we see how well the 'vote with your dollars' strategy works. Think Cracker Barrel. Think Abercrombie and Fitch.
Or for that matter, think of the RIAA and the MPAA - how many of us actually don't purchase their products based on their practices? How much of a dent has it really made? Obviously not enough to make a difference in how they act - and they've probably pissed off way more people through their actions than would be pissed off at some racial/sexual/genetic slighting.
I'm all for spending money to support - or not support - companies who hold positions I agree or disagree with, but the damage that can be done through discrimination based on genetics may not be undone through just purchasing power.
Depending on the state, that would be correct. Most states define an actual age, though - so who would you prosecute in the example you mentioned?
You can ripen a peach by putting it in a paper bag with an unripe banana. The gases the banana emits ripen the peach.
Bananas will ripen faster in a paper bag than not.
Actually, the /. blurb is misleading - the article actually says that they simply won't help you remove it, not that it comes preloaded.
Makes sense in a way, given that attempted removal of spyware can take other stuff down with it. Not super-friendly tech support, but understandable, I guess.
That's not unusual at all, nor is it unique to technical fields. Many universities require their professors to have done time at another institution - keeps things from getting stale.
It's happening to me and my husband too - funny how 'in this job market' we are having to turn down work...
We're in the process of remodeling our basement so my husband can work down there, he's currently set up shop in the useless front room (you know the one, the room with all the nice furniture that everyone's afraid to sit on? well, we don't have any of that furniture) but we really need to move his stuff to someplace where he can concentrate a little more and crank the tunes if he needs to. After my son walked up and turn the power off on his computer while he was working a short time ago, I think my husband is going to be putting a rush on completing the basement.
I just test and document the stuff, I don't need to think or concentrate, so I just carry a laptop wherever. I do have my own room set up, I hardly ever use it though - but it's too small to move my husband into.
The guy apparently stole three computers, one laptop and two desktops. The banking information may have been on the desktops, not the laptops.
I work in an environment where we have to be concerned about client confidentiality, but I also have a dialup account on my laptop for a couple of reasons - one, because I sometimes have to bring non-sensitive documentation home with me (I store anything sensitive on our network, so if anyone walks off with my laptop, they get nothing), and two, because it really sucks for my ability to get to our network to die when I am on a deadline, so I can use my dialup with my analog line. Not to mention, it's nice when I'm not on a deadline and the network goes down to be able to spend some time goofing off.
The security of this situation depends on the user and his/her computer smarts - maybe you're making some assumptions because the user had an AOL account? But you can't really do much about someone just breaking in and stealing the actual hardware. In this case, it turned out to be a *good* thing that there was a dialup account available.
And next thing you know, you're a consulting firm!
If you don't want to spend the money for an office, why not try going out for a quick walk before you begin work for the day and another walk when you end work for the day. Might provide an easy delinearization of what stays where...
You've missed the point - claiming ignorance of the law is not an excuse. There is more than enough advertising, news stories, etc., to alert people to the fact that copyright infringement is illegal and will be prosecuted - I would go so far as to say than in a given day you are about as likely (if not more likely) to see some sort of alert that copyright infringement is prosecutable as you are to see ads that you shouldn't drink and drive, holidays excluded - matter of fact, I can't think of ANY other prosecutable activity that currently gets as much publicity as copyright infringement.
Do you REALLY think that someone who knew enough to find and use Kazaa didn't know that there was something illegal about some of the things you could do with it? The girl claimed that Kazaa didn't display a warning that it could be used illegally and so she didn't know that she was doing anything wrong - this is the kind of reasoning that has led to warnings not to use curling irons when asleep or electric hairdryers while showering.
The rights and wrongs of this are a separate issue - I pointed out that ignorance of the law was not an excuse, and the level of awareness on this should be as high as drunk driving given all the press copyright infringement has been given. Instead of noting this, you threw up a strawman argument that drinking and driving kills people but copyright infringement doesn't.
If you don't like the law, change the law, but don't play stupid when you get caught. We may not all agree that all laws are reasonable, but by choosing to break the law one should be ready to accept the consequences, regardless of what you may think of the reasonableness of the law. It's part of living within a society.
Next time, please try to engage in logical argument instead of stooping to namecalling. Namecalling distracts from any good arguments you may have and makes people less likely to listen to your message.
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Here, read this - this is apparently what they teach the kids in school in Washington state.
Something to consider when some of the kids that read this think they aren't hurting anyone - even if the law is 'stupid', even if the RIAA is a bunch of 'idiots', you could end up costing your parents money that could be going to your first car, your college fund, hell, even to put food on the table like in the case of the 12-year-old they went after a few months ago.
I still don't understand WTF these parents are thinking, not supervising their kids' internet usage. Isn't a parental lack of appropriate supervision and guidance considered neglect?
And I am SICK and TIRED of people getting caught and whining 'I didn't know' - why don't I get drunk and go out driving, I can just say I didn't know it was against the law. Whether I hurt someone or not, I'd still get taken in if I got pulled over. Why? Because it's against the law. Never mind that lots of people drink and drive all the time, some so much that they drive better than when sober, it's still against the law. There has been a TON of publicity about music piracy and filesharing and the consequences, how can anyone who is Net-knowledgeable enough to find and use Kazaa pretend that they have never seen any indication that they might be breaking the law???
I agree, I had Qwest's service desk along with the appropriate codes to get to repair on my cellphone so I could do one-touch repair calling while driving - much safer than trying to punch in codes while driving.
But then my cell phone died (not kidding) - five times.
make it count!
If I had time, I would steal the image and change the razorblade to an AOL CD...but since my internet connection is UP right now...
He is kind of a loudmouth, but more in a construction-worker sort of way than in an asshole sort of way. I don't know how to explain it any better than that - he doesn't seem to spout off about stuff he doesn't know, and a lot of the time he steps back and lets the guys get their jobs done. I have much more tolerance for someone who knows what they're doing and spouts off than someone who doesn't know what they're doing and spouts off.
It's fun to watch as long as you don't take him seriously - and I get the feeling he doesn't take himself seriously.
Man, we really HAVE gotten this offtopic, haven't we?
It's called Monster House.
The retro-future house made me drool.
Yes, indeed...it IS hypocritical to claim to be in favor of womens' rights and equality in the workplace but when someone sues you for sexual harassment, to lie through your teeth about your behavior.
GOD damned fucking HYPOCRITES!
They give you comp time? Do you get to take it? If so, I'm jealous...
You're forgetting option three: you've never been involved in a project big or important enough to involve political problems. Who notices the mail guy?
You do what I do...if they don't put it in writing, you were never told to do it. I have sent out e-mails that say "If I don't get written documentation that this is supposed to be XXX way, it's going to ship YYY way" and make sure that YYY is awful enough that they sure don't want that to happen.
Anyone who would reply to an e-mail with a telephone call sure isn't a geek anyway - geeks generally prefer things in black and white.
Does anyone really want to take the chance that Eolas won't decide that their browser is part of the next Evil Empire and go after them for half a billion dollars? Especially since Eolas could claim "You should have known I'd come after you, I went after Microsoft and won five years ago, what made you think I couldn't win against little old YOU?"
I don't think I would be including this technology in my apps unless I had written permission...too risky.
The developer of Proxomitron has killed it - he no longer supports it, but you can still download it at proxomitron.info.
Copying is allowed for PERSONAL USE.
I know I'm being redundant here to an earlier post that I made, but I shouldn't have to tell so many people to RTFA (or in this case, the link in the parent post). You are arguing for the sake of arguing instead of trying to actually understand the issues. Read the law, read the commentary on the law, and then you may be able to post intelligently.
Please read the link - first generation copies are allowed for PERSONAL USE.
So the file swappers are going to check back in (or delete) the MP3s they 'borrowed'? Hmmm....
From infoAnarchy, it "appears to be a work print copy" which would imply that someone copied it, possibly onto their own media which would mean no physical theft.