oh yeah, right, i'm gonna overlook your $2000 investment versus an $800 investment, and just agree with you entirely on the specs/power/performance underwhelming...
forget it, fool. if you don't know the difference between $2000 and $800, send me $1200 and i'll tell you!
for $800 (hopefully thats just rrp), this is a stormin' accessory to my existing computing solutions. i'm gonna get one, just so i've got a nice, portable, useful linux machine around to hack code^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwrite worthwhile computing applications on...
Obviously the military is better armed but do you think for a second they want to kill off the population and destroy the infrastructure of their own country?
What the fuck kind of person gets 'convinced' by someone with such an utterly criminal mind, I don't know.
Bush deceived the nation, and he lied to the world. The reasons for invading Iraq change depending on the whims of the pollsters. One minute its WMD, the next its "the UN isn't doing its job" (anyone remember that?), the next its "Saddam is a bad man who uses weapons on his own people", the next its "the world is better off, economically, with us in Iraq".
WTF, America! Wake up! DO YOU KNOW NOTHING OF PROPAGANDA? DO YOU KNOW NOTHING OF MACHIAVELLI?
Vote Bush in, and it will be the nail in the coffin of what was once a great nation... which is no more now, than an empty shell, surrounded by fat Defense Industry maggots and Globalist Corporations. And if you don't think we'll ever get another Hitler, you haven't sat on the board of directors of Multinational DrugWeaponFoodOil Corp., Inc.. and won't because they're not democratic institutions by a long shot...
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Obviously the military is better armed but do you think for a second they want to kill off the population and destroy the infrastructure of their own country?
By what mechanism, exactly, is America 'safe' from civil war?
Yes it is paranoia, but shouldn't there be an ounce of it in the face of such 'certainties' that all we do is infallible?
I know and understand that 'particles from the solar wind' are all over the place, but what else is there in 26 million miles of space that we don't know about?
All I'm saying is, we seem to be mighty sure of ourselves to be making such great petri-dish'es crash-land into our mineral-rich deserts...
Yes, I understand the 'contamination of the valuable samples' issue, but what about the other angle - that of quarantining Earths valuable ecosphere from whatever particles were floating out there in the Solar Winds?
Are we really absolutely sure that there's nothing on those plates, awfully petri-dish'y to me, which doesn't eat gold or platinum or carbon ferociously, has not been able to survive gravity/atmosphere so well, but which we just gave a free ride down here to a land of milk and honey?
Well, I guess not. Otherwise we wouldn't be doing the science, right, to find out whats up there?
Yeah, the Andromeda Strain puns were rampant, but now, 24 hours later, have we really thought enough about our return-to-earth of foreign space particles?
yes, but why but there's no customer benefit in choosing a phone like this over a phone that ran, say symbian
i dunno, i can think of thousands of cool things that may run on linux but may not be available on symbian, apps/scripts/libs/suites which i might one day want to integrate, relatively easily, into a functioning linux system...
hey, maybe you -can- get to a prompt on it, maybe you -can- do compiles, eh? woohoo, pocket SVG, yay.fetchmailrc, groovy "edk://" from the keypad, hot momma "apache" grits, bring on the PHP, SMS my crontab!
how does it running linux kernel mean it's based on "open standards"? it doesn't(apart from the kernel). again, if you're an embedded developer this is of intrest - but not to anyone as a customer.
umm... one word: POSIX
and did let you install native apps in addition o just offering j2me(and coding all kinds of funky lowlevel stuff like tickers that run over other programs when they're running to remind you of a meeting or whatever).
who'se to say this isn't possible in this phone?
i bet its fun to write code for it, anyway. public development tools or not, the use of linux on this phone means there's all sorts of creative hackery to be had, by the developers (whoever they are), and for the end user...
c'mon, you're just crapping on the linux angle to raise some ire, and thus your posts' profile. just admit it. open to the user/hacker or not, its cool to have a phone that runs linux. thats one less WinCE install, yay!
so unless you're an embedded developer and might re-use the code for your own product you're hardly having advantage of it running linux(as a customer)? doesn't really look like you could load your own native programs on it.
look, would you rather it were a closed-source operating system with no support, destined for the graveyard in some bankrupcy court, or 'sold off like a cheap truck of pigs' to some other mega-corp who squish it after exercising their own propietary OS into the same marketspace?
the fact its running linux means that the device itself is based on open standards. regardless of whether you can './configure;make;make install' from the touchpad, the fact its using linux just means that its got a good head-start environment for creative developers - like the guys selling these phones - to do interesting things.
its a phone, not a rootkit. linux is not just a vast landscape of tarballs... its also a pretty darned good operating environment for embedded systems developers to use to make extraordinarily interesting devices for people who want to use those devices for specific tasks, not spend all day working out the switches for their USES= var...
good troll though, down on the linux tip. i won't bother mentioning that the existence of devices like this mean that the desktop wars are over, and new battlegrounds are upon us, though...
... we can only conclude that we must not be surprised by such things.
do not be surprised when you see your tech on the streets. do not be surprised when you see your shit being used in ways you never imagined. do not be surprised when you see others with things you only dreamed of.
moores law predicted it all. it is you who was not able to comprehend it, while another did. then, they implemented...
... instead of the ubiquitous floppy, we've now got:
- smartmedia cards - compact flash cards - sony memory sticks - USB drives - MMC cards &etc.
think this is better? i don't. sure, they're all nice, but what a bitch it is to have to carry around my own "drive unit" just to be able to accept these "Standardized Media".
Also, my post that you responded to was ment in a joking manner, you should have seen that my question about how come Slashdot is never Slashdotted was ment in jest.
C'mon, its slashdot. You can't expect to make a lame attempt at humor and get away with it...
The worst of all being the fact that it is unable to correct itself, evidenced by the fact that these articles are unknown to the average U.S. Citizen, who in fact would be up in arms, American-style, about what is going on... if only they knew about it, and weren't over-sedated by "Friends" re-runs and rampant Consumericanism.
Which begs the question: how come Slashdot is never Slashdotted? Hm....
Your use of 'never' reveals your naivete. Slashdot has/.'ed itself many, many, many times over.
The reason you are unable to perceive this is probably because you haven't been around long and don't know much about these things. The guys that run the/. servers are tech-savvy enough to know how to handle a/.'ing by now, believe me... the/. server setup is designed to survive.
(Here's a hint for you, in case you feel compelled to argue: Every single/.'ing of another server starts with a hit to... yes, you might guess: the slashdot.org server itself. Thats why its called a slashdot'ing...)
You know, where a word gets re-defined to mean something 'more general' than it used to...
To the Average Joe Sixpack, 'censored' just means that someone didn't want you to know something, and thus you don't know about it. That can happen in a number of ways, both overtly and covertly... 'under-reporting' in the media, etc.
Check out Story #11... "The Media Can Legally Lie". No better example of the virtues of "newspeak" could be found...
The Dixie Chicks were specifically targetted by right-wing groups in an agit-prop "Press Release as Media Button Push" campaign. Yes, folks didn't like what they said. But it was more of the way what they said was positioned by extremist agenda-pushers and their teams of pundits than anything else.
If the positioning on the Dixie Chicks campaign had been "They're a group of young professional hard-working women who have worked hard to be in the position they are in, and they are using that position to state an unpopular view in spite of the consequences", there would've been more public acceptance of their situation. But instead, they were attacked for exercising their rights, as artists, to communicate to the masses.
The Dixie Chicks agit-prop campaign was an attack on Art. It should come as no surprise however, that the illiterate masses didn't recognize it as that, and instead decided to make it their 'agitated personal accepted view of the week'...
... and we may end up with better tech we can use to survive space conditions. And Vice Versa.
A case of specialization versus generalization, I know, but it seems ironic to me that $Billion programs to create tools, techniques and technology for harsh environmental control are unable to suffer a little storm here and there...
Just like those space-hab like structures being built on Antarctita by the Germans may one day give us habs for Moon, Mars and beyond, it seems to me that a "better shuttle" (easier said than...) should give us something we can use to house Floridians in the years to come, protect those precious orange crops, etc...
Not only that, I don't consider the ability to churn out unreadable code a good trait in a programmer. Nothing geeky about it, just sloppy.
i consider the ability to at least appreciate unreadable code, and have a good time with it, for fun, just coz, to be a good trait in a programmer. and thats what this IOCC thing is. for fun.
(thus you're fired! hand in your geekcard on the way out...)
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oh yeah, right, i'm gonna overlook your $2000 investment versus an $800 investment, and just agree with you entirely on the specs/power/performance underwhelming ...
forget it, fool. if you don't know the difference between $2000 and $800, send me $1200 and i'll tell you!
for $800 (hopefully thats just rrp), this is a stormin' accessory to my existing computing solutions. i'm gonna get one, just so i've got a nice, portable, useful linux machine around to hack code^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwrite worthwhile computing applications on...
Did you miss the point that the cookingguy was monitoring his own content statistics?
Can you do that with Coral, or is it 'proprietary info' that only belongs to them, once its on their net?
Obviously the military is better armed but do you think for a second they want to kill off the population and destroy the infrastructure of their own country?
... which is no more now, than an empty shell, surrounded by fat Defense Industry maggots and Globalist Corporations. And if you don't think we'll ever get another Hitler, you haven't sat on the board of directors of Multinational DrugWeaponFoodOil Corp., Inc.. and won't because they're not democratic institutions by a long shot ...
What the fuck kind of person gets 'convinced' by someone with such an utterly criminal mind, I don't know.
Bush deceived the nation, and he lied to the world. The reasons for invading Iraq change depending on the whims of the pollsters. One minute its WMD, the next its "the UN isn't doing its job" (anyone remember that?), the next its "Saddam is a bad man who uses weapons on his own people", the next its "the world is better off, economically, with us in Iraq".
WTF, America! Wake up! DO YOU KNOW NOTHING OF PROPAGANDA? DO YOU KNOW NOTHING OF MACHIAVELLI?
Vote Bush in, and it will be the nail in the coffin of what was once a great nation
Obviously the military is better armed but do you think for a second they want to kill off the population and destroy the infrastructure of their own country?
By what mechanism, exactly, is America 'safe' from civil war?
but my whole point is that as the CUSTOMER YOU CANT DO THIS.
you're absolutely sure about that?
Your fears are science fiction, not science.
.sig file, or scraped on a cave wall somewhere, but ...
okay, if you say so, fine by me. don't blame me if this statement ends up in a
Yes it is paranoia, but shouldn't there be an ounce of it in the face of such 'certainties' that all we do is infallible?
I know and understand that 'particles from the solar wind' are all over the place, but what else is there in 26 million miles of space that we don't know about?
All I'm saying is, we seem to be mighty sure of ourselves to be making such great petri-dish'es crash-land into our mineral-rich deserts...
Yes, I understand the 'contamination of the valuable samples' issue, but what about the other angle - that of quarantining Earths valuable ecosphere from whatever particles were floating out there in the Solar Winds?
Are we really absolutely sure that there's nothing on those plates, awfully petri-dish'y to me, which doesn't eat gold or platinum or carbon ferociously, has not been able to survive gravity/atmosphere so well, but which we just gave a free ride down here to a land of milk and honey?
Well, I guess not. Otherwise we wouldn't be doing the science, right, to find out whats up there?
Yeah, the Andromeda Strain puns were rampant, but now, 24 hours later, have we really thought enough about our return-to-earth of foreign space particles?
yes, but why but there's no customer benefit in choosing a phone like this over a phone that ran, say symbian
...
.fetchmailrc, groovy "edk://" from the keypad, hot momma "apache" grits, bring on the PHP, SMS my crontab!
...
i dunno, i can think of thousands of cool things that may run on linux but may not be available on symbian, apps/scripts/libs/suites which i might one day want to integrate, relatively easily, into a functioning linux system
hey, maybe you -can- get to a prompt on it, maybe you -can- do compiles, eh? woohoo, pocket SVG, yay
how does it running linux kernel mean it's based on "open standards"? it doesn't(apart from the kernel). again, if you're an embedded developer this is of intrest - but not to anyone as a customer.
umm... one word: POSIX
and did let you install native apps in addition o just offering j2me(and coding all kinds of funky lowlevel stuff like tickers that run over other programs when they're running to remind you of a meeting or whatever).
who'se to say this isn't possible in this phone?
i bet its fun to write code for it, anyway. public development tools or not, the use of linux on this phone means there's all sorts of creative hackery to be had, by the developers (whoever they are), and for the end user
c'mon, you're just crapping on the linux angle to raise some ire, and thus your posts' profile. just admit it. open to the user/hacker or not, its cool to have a phone that runs linux. thats one less WinCE install, yay!
so unless you're an embedded developer and might re-use the code for your own product you're hardly having advantage of it running linux(as a customer)? doesn't really look like you could load your own native programs on it.
... its also a pretty darned good operating environment for embedded systems developers to use to make extraordinarily interesting devices for people who want to use those devices for specific tasks, not spend all day working out the switches for their USES= var ...
...
look, would you rather it were a closed-source operating system with no support, destined for the graveyard in some bankrupcy court, or 'sold off like a cheap truck of pigs' to some other mega-corp who squish it after exercising their own propietary OS into the same marketspace?
the fact its running linux means that the device itself is based on open standards. regardless of whether you can './configure;make;make install' from the touchpad, the fact its using linux just means that its got a good head-start environment for creative developers - like the guys selling these phones - to do interesting things.
its a phone, not a rootkit. linux is not just a vast landscape of tarballs
good troll though, down on the linux tip. i won't bother mentioning that the existence of devices like this mean that the desktop wars are over, and new battlegrounds are upon us, though
what a load of crap.
publish everything to everyone, and you won't need to be keeping secrets in the first place.
and then make peace, not war!
... and how is it that he's managed to do so much to America's War Machine, without having ever served ... ermm ... make that actively done everything he possibly could to stay out of action ...
uh huh ... so, like, the war on invasion by the aliens is going pretty well too, since none of that seems to be happening.
sheesh. baaah!
... we can only conclude that we must not be surprised by such things.
...
do not be surprised when you see your tech on the streets. do not be surprised when you see your shit being used in ways you never imagined. do not be surprised when you see others with things you only dreamed of.
moores law predicted it all. it is you who was not able to comprehend it, while another did. then, they implemented
... I slung it at my homies at ampfea.org before I even digest it, fully.
...
If that isn't a lesson in the positive side of what we've been able t achieve, un-educated like, in the meantime, I don't know what it is
[note to moderators: take your time, i couldn't give a fuck...]
... instead of the ubiquitous floppy, we've now got:
- smartmedia cards
- compact flash cards
- sony memory sticks
- USB drives
- MMC cards
&etc.
think this is better? i don't. sure, they're all nice, but what a bitch it is to have to carry around my own "drive unit" just to be able to accept these "Standardized Media".
standards aren't.
Also, my post that you responded to was ment in a joking manner, you should have seen that my question about how come Slashdot is never Slashdotted was ment in jest.
...
C'mon, its slashdot. You can't expect to make a lame attempt at humor and get away with it
The point is: The USA IS bad. In many, many ways.
... if only they knew about it, and weren't over-sedated by "Friends" re-runs and rampant Consumericanism.
The worst of all being the fact that it is unable to correct itself, evidenced by the fact that these articles are unknown to the average U.S. Citizen, who in fact would be up in arms, American-style, about what is going on
The U.S. is broken. FIX IT, American!
Which begs the question: how come Slashdot is never Slashdotted? Hm....
/.'ed itself many, many, many times over.
/. servers are tech-savvy enough to know how to handle a /.'ing by now, believe me ... the /. server setup is designed to survive.
/.'ing of another server starts with a hit to ... yes, you might guess: the slashdot.org server itself. Thats why its called a slashdot'ing ...)
Your use of 'never' reveals your naivete. Slashdot has
The reason you are unable to perceive this is probably because you haven't been around long and don't know much about these things. The guys that run the
(Here's a hint for you, in case you feel compelled to argue: Every single
You know, where a word gets re-defined to mean something 'more general' than it used to...
... "The Media Can Legally Lie". No better example of the virtues of "newspeak" could be found ...
To the Average Joe Sixpack, 'censored' just means that someone didn't want you to know something, and thus you don't know about it. That can happen in a number of ways, both overtly and covertly... 'under-reporting' in the media, etc.
Check out Story #11
The Dixie Chicks were specifically targetted by right-wing groups in an agit-prop "Press Release as Media Button Push" campaign. Yes, folks didn't like what they said. But it was more of the way what they said was positioned by extremist agenda-pushers and their teams of pundits than anything else.
...
If the positioning on the Dixie Chicks campaign had been "They're a group of young professional hard-working women who have worked hard to be in the position they are in, and they are using that position to state an unpopular view in spite of the consequences", there would've been more public acceptance of their situation. But instead, they were attacked for exercising their rights, as artists, to communicate to the masses.
The Dixie Chicks agit-prop campaign was an attack on Art. It should come as no surprise however, that the illiterate masses didn't recognize it as that, and instead decided to make it their 'agitated personal accepted view of the week'
... and we may end up with better tech we can use to survive space conditions. And Vice Versa.
...
A case of specialization versus generalization, I know, but it seems ironic to me that $Billion programs to create tools, techniques and technology for harsh environmental control are unable to suffer a little storm here and there
Just like those space-hab like structures being built on Antarctita by the Germans may one day give us habs for Moon, Mars and beyond, it seems to me that a "better shuttle" (easier said than...) should give us something we can use to house Floridians in the years to come, protect those precious orange crops, etc...
Save a few hundred bucks, be forced into Microsofts' world, hmm ... choices, choices ...
No thanks. You'd have to pay me to use Windows over OSX.
Not only that, I don't consider the ability to churn out unreadable code a good trait in a programmer. Nothing geeky about it, just sloppy.
i consider the ability to at least appreciate unreadable code, and have a good time with it, for fun, just coz, to be a good trait in a programmer. and thats what this IOCC thing is. for fun.
(thus you're fired! hand in your geekcard on the way out...)
Profit isn't the only reason to do something.