only trouble is, PC's sell everywhere. they're like the 'industrial wonder-product' you just make, and let the user figure out what to do with when its done... and we all know, letting the user decide about what to do about anything is just asking for it..
I keep one or more browser windows open on four of my eight desktops. Each of those browser windows has between one and ten tabs open. Unless something dreadful happens, my browser only launches after Software Update causes me to reboot.
yeah, i'd work that way too, if suspend worked properly on my aging tiBook.. but it doesn't, so i shut down and start up a lot, at least a couple times a day, so.. i likes my apps to pre-load, yo!
be nice if there were a way to add 'proper suspend to disk and go to sleep' to the tiBooks.. maybe there is a way to hack a disk file for it, or something, but i dunno.. i'm not all that fussed about browser politics, anyway. for me, its whatever loads the fastest.. and isn't from Microsoft.
.. to the 'difference between open and closed source models'..
open source == -0day!
I shall have to try Camino, but darnit, if it still takes forever to load and get itself started, its useless to me. web browsers need to open and close fast, on my system.. and Safari has the fastest startup time yet, so Safari it is.. but lets see if Camino is worth changing habits for..
thanks for the advice; i've already got tons of dictionaries. what i want to do is increase my vocabulary, and doing that by plowing through 10,000 or so 'most commonly used words' over the course of 3 months seems to me to be the way to go..
face it, there really isn't any good reason for technologys' made pace. its fed by the consumerican 'keeping up with the joneses' white-picket fence factor, and pretty much not much else.
most people, for example, hardly even use %30 of the average power their computing devices are capable of producing.
it is consumericanism, plain and simple, to even compare analog to digital. all that so-called 'old tech' is still just as applicable today as it was X-days ago.
old tech isn't! its still tech! tech is what works, no matter how old it is!
stop the race to the cliff, everyone! technology updates at the speed of light are not needed and not required for us all to live happy, productive, enriched lives...
(i'd be quite happy to have an 'old' analog stereo system right now. as long as i could control it without getting out of my chair/web-browser, that is... ]wink[)
I have to learn German. I need the 86,000 most-commonly used German words. This would give me a nice target of words to get to know in the process of learning it...
Ignorance of the issues concerning the National Debt lead to Big Profit on the part of Banks (and other Lenders) to whom the Debt is owed... so you can be damned sure that popular culture has no clue just deep in the red the nation is...
In other words, its not enough to blame the politicians. Blame the people, and the Banks, too...
Well, lets see, a whole nation of idiots now, not just his family and 'associates', but an entire country, lets him continually get away with fibbing and shitting in the sandbox, stealing all the other kids toys, breaking all his own, etc.... of course he's gonna grow up to be a Grade A Nutcase.
Someone put Bush in a corner by himself for a while. Please!
far out. its as if, in the whole e-mail debate, everyone has forgotten that its all supported by protocols.
protocols are but useless, for naught, unless you appreciate how -utterly abitrary- they are.
SPAMMERS need not be allowed on -other protocols. there are thousands and thousands of them, where messages from human to human (what e-mail is) cannot be spun from one 'protocol gateway' to another.
there is no need for panic. cede smtp/pop3 open-public servers (or not) to the SPAMMERS, and continue to develop other protocols, on the -existing infrastructure-
Intel is wrong, nothing needs to change at all: the Internet does nothing but change, duh... and has since day one (bits of it stay the same in order to support exactly this notion..)
Intel are only saying here, in their campaign for whatever (I'm not really paying much attention to Intel any more), that 'the Internet should change the way they(Intel) see it.... coz you know, the "Internet is Faster" because of Intel... they ought to know.
(not even gonna mention anything about Intels' cronies, who make the Internet less fun and more noisy/breaky/BS'y...)
anyway, as for 'technologists leading the way', the never-bending rule of nerds and science, progressively having made the world a very dangerous place to live as well as a good place (for a select scant portion of humanity, alas, so far...) continues to do so at a damned rapid pace.
we might ought to consider what we've done before we go off and create 'another solution' to yet more 'and more problems'... and our 'responsibility' extends as much to whacking ourselves with cluesticks as does to is inventing yet more junk.
hey, we're all positively certain that the processors in those 'free, available, open to everyone' servers for which everyone can have the source don't have onboard eschelon, right?
{"what? i'm not whoring! really! who knows how to build an electron microscope and can spot an 'undocumented' register screen when they see one?"}
tin foil hat this: some people like to manage their statistics, some people like to know whats going on with their site, some people like to know whether some change they've made either draws new visitors or repels them.
whether those people have anything to do with the content (cookingguy) or whether those people are only traffic collators (coral) who leech onto other peoples' net stats and usage info in order to provide network analysis to upstream marketing customers, is entirely independent of any tinfoil realities...
The people who buy this are those who have the $800 to throw at it, not those who only have $800 to spend on a computer product.
fair point. if you only have $800 to spend on a computer, you'd be better off doing a lot more shopping around.
but if i want the services/features this thing provides - namely an operational, portable, easy to use computer with all my web-browsing, imaging, multimedia needs taken care of, no fuss, no hassle, (no windows viruses), then its a valid investment.
are you saying that this thing isn't worth $800, or just that it isn't worth spending $800 on it if you've got other computing needs in mind? in my opinion, there's a difference.
personally, i think its worth $800 to just get rid of all multimedia requirements on my main system, move it to this portable device (which i can.. ahem.. use in places i can't use my desktop system) and turn my main system into a much more productive setup, with a Pepper in cooperation.
now, whether i would do this, as opposed to... say... getting a Tapwave device or something... is a matter of shopping, and I agree with you that when it comes to computing devices, one ought to shop.
but just don't insta-crap on something on the basis of specs. crap on it on the basis of suitability to task; and remember, some tasks are holier than others...
its like that old saying, my friends Pop used to bore us with on the way to Costco, "its expensive being poor"... i.e. if you've got the money to spend, you get more bang for the buck in the end.
but thats really not the whole point of this. an $800 computer is still a valid computing device. i rarely see *anyone* getting $2000 worth out of their computers; usually, its just for gaming or 'keeping up with the joneses factor' and not actual productive use.
if i get this $800 computer and make it my only computer for doing e-mail, web, internet, movie-watching, multimedia, etc. and it leaves me with my other computer that can be entirely re-purposed to do something else productive, thats an $800 investment worth the effort. sure, you have to look at such things; you can't (or shouldn't) just be consumericanist about the whole issue of 'plastic junk for $xxx'...
glibly over-analyzing a devices' shortcomings on the basis of specs is a waste of time, in my opinion. what are you going to do with it, and how will you get your return from that investment? i can see a lot of uses for Pepper in many, many, many productive business scenario's.
how much time have you wasted doing viruses on your $2000 PC? how much time do you figure you'll waste on the Pepper, with regards to this issue, compared to how much you'll use it?
Heh. Funny thing is I pointed out the price difference to avoid shitheaded comments like this.
yeah, but you went ahead and posted your lame-duck post anyway, knowing that the whole point was irrelevant. i mean, c'mon, you gotta crap on the Pepper because its 'underwhelming' compared to your $2000 system?
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.. is still a functioning computer.
... and we all know, letting the user decide about what to do about anything is just asking for it ..
only trouble is, PC's sell everywhere. they're like the 'industrial wonder-product' you just make, and let the user figure out what to do with when its done
What about the 'wait 20 seconds before you can use this website again' factor?
I hate that man, that sends me into insta-fits..
I keep one or more browser windows open on four of my eight desktops. Each of those browser windows has between one and ten tabs open. Unless something dreadful happens, my browser only launches after Software Update causes me to reboot.
.. but it doesn't, so i shut down and start up a lot, at least a couple times a day, so .. i likes my apps to pre-load, yo!
.. maybe there is a way to hack a disk file for it, or something, but i dunno .. i'm not all that fussed about browser politics, anyway. for me, its whatever loads the fastest .. and isn't from Microsoft.
yeah, i'd work that way too, if suspend worked properly on my aging tiBook
be nice if there were a way to add 'proper suspend to disk and go to sleep' to the tiBooks
No, the message is "No Hope Whatsoever, Deal With What We're Giving You Or We'll Frame It So You're In Jail" ...
In Soviet Russia, Ass Kick You!
Bit of a difference.
.. to the 'difference between open and closed source models' ..
.. and Safari has the fastest startup time yet, so Safari it is .. but lets see if Camino is worth changing habits for..
open source == -0day!
I shall have to try Camino, but darnit, if it still takes forever to load and get itself started, its useless to me. web browsers need to open and close fast, on my system
the creation of incoherent language was the first technology. its been downhill since then.
.. suddenly, those 'oceanic arkologies' seem an even better idea ..
.. by the time viruses can transmute the ocean/atmosphere barrier, its time to be deep, deep in space.
of, but of course
thanks for the advice; i've already got tons of dictionaries. what i want to do is increase my vocabulary, and doing that by plowing through 10,000 or so 'most commonly used words' over the course of 3 months seems to me to be the way to go ..
.. its not 'better', its just 'different'.
...
... ]wink[)
face it, there really isn't any good reason for technologys' made pace. its fed by the consumerican 'keeping up with the joneses' white-picket fence factor, and pretty much not much else.
most people, for example, hardly even use %30 of the average power their computing devices are capable of producing.
it is consumericanism, plain and simple, to even compare analog to digital. all that so-called 'old tech' is still just as applicable today as it was X-days ago.
old tech isn't! its still tech! tech is what works, no matter how old it is!
stop the race to the cliff, everyone! technology updates at the speed of light are not needed and not required for us all to live happy, productive, enriched lives
(i'd be quite happy to have an 'old' analog stereo system right now. as long as i could control it without getting out of my chair/web-browser, that is
I have to learn German. I need the 86,000 most-commonly used German words. This would give me a nice target of words to get to know in the process of learning it ...
Out cheaply, but production speed is almost as important as strand length.
..
yeah. used to take them whole weeks to make a car, once upon a time. something about 'industrialization' changed all that, though
Umm
Your government doesn't even make its own money!!
You? The People? The Banks? PFFT!!!! Ha ha HA HA HA HA haH!
.. is better.
Bring on the silicon, yeah baby, yeah!
{oh, except %ONE thing, that is... right...}
.. because the People ignore it, too.
...
...
Ignorance of the issues concerning the National Debt lead to Big Profit on the part of Banks (and other Lenders) to whom the Debt is owed... so you can be damned sure that popular culture has no clue just deep in the red the nation is
In other words, its not enough to blame the politicians. Blame the people, and the Banks, too
Well, lets see, a whole nation of idiots now, not just his family and 'associates', but an entire country, lets him continually get away with fibbing and shitting in the sandbox, stealing all the other kids toys, breaking all his own, etc.
Someone put Bush in a corner by himself for a while. Please!
Yeah!
The world, and not only that, the whole universe, does Not just belong to the Scientists!
in soviet australia, you down undah!
It was like a million geeks crying out in unison, then suddenly disappointed.
far out. its as if, in the whole e-mail debate, everyone has forgotten that its all supported by protocols.
... they ought to know.
...)
protocols are but useless, for naught, unless you appreciate how -utterly abitrary- they are.
SPAMMERS need not be allowed on -other protocols. there are thousands and thousands of them, where messages from human to human (what e-mail is) cannot be spun from one 'protocol gateway' to another.
there is no need for panic. cede smtp/pop3 open-public servers (or not) to the SPAMMERS, and continue to develop other protocols, on the -existing infrastructure-
Intel is wrong, nothing needs to change at all: the Internet does nothing but change, duh... and has since day one (bits of it stay the same in order to support exactly this notion..)
Intel are only saying here, in their campaign for whatever (I'm not really paying much attention to Intel any more), that 'the Internet should change the way they(Intel) see it.... coz you know, the "Internet is Faster" because of Intel
(not even gonna mention anything about Intels' cronies, who make the Internet less fun and more noisy/breaky/BS'y
anyway, as for 'technologists leading the way', the never-bending rule of nerds and science, progressively having made the world a very dangerous place to live as well as a good place (for a select scant portion of humanity, alas, so far...) continues to do so at a damned rapid pace.
we might ought to consider what we've done before we go off and create 'another solution' to yet more 'and more problems'... and our 'responsibility' extends as much to whacking ourselves with cluesticks as does to is inventing yet more junk.
"slow down, there's a cliff ahead!"
hey, we're all positively certain that the processors in those 'free, available, open to everyone' servers for which everyone can have the source don't have onboard eschelon, right?
{"what? i'm not whoring! really! who knows how to build an electron microscope and can spot an 'undocumented' register screen when they see one?"}
tin foil hat this: some people like to manage their statistics, some people like to know whats going on with their site, some people like to know whether some change they've made either draws new visitors or repels them.
whether those people have anything to do with the content (cookingguy) or whether those people are only traffic collators (coral) who leech onto other peoples' net stats and usage info in order to provide network analysis to upstream marketing customers, is entirely independent of any tinfoil realities
The people who buy this are those who have the $800 to throw at it, not those who only have $800 to spend on a computer product.
.. ahem .. use in places i can't use my desktop system) and turn my main system into a much more productive setup, with a Pepper in cooperation.
... say ... getting a Tapwave device or something ... is a matter of shopping, and I agree with you that when it comes to computing devices, one ought to shop.
...
fair point. if you only have $800 to spend on a computer, you'd be better off doing a lot more shopping around.
but if i want the services/features this thing provides - namely an operational, portable, easy to use computer with all my web-browsing, imaging, multimedia needs taken care of, no fuss, no hassle, (no windows viruses), then its a valid investment.
are you saying that this thing isn't worth $800, or just that it isn't worth spending $800 on it if you've got other computing needs in mind? in my opinion, there's a difference.
personally, i think its worth $800 to just get rid of all multimedia requirements on my main system, move it to this portable device (which i can
now, whether i would do this, as opposed to
but just don't insta-crap on something on the basis of specs. crap on it on the basis of suitability to task; and remember, some tasks are holier than others
its like that old saying, my friends Pop used to bore us with on the way to Costco, "its expensive being poor"... i.e. if you've got the money to spend, you get more bang for the buck in the end.
...
but thats really not the whole point of this. an $800 computer is still a valid computing device. i rarely see *anyone* getting $2000 worth out of their computers; usually, its just for gaming or 'keeping up with the joneses factor' and not actual productive use.
if i get this $800 computer and make it my only computer for doing e-mail, web, internet, movie-watching, multimedia, etc. and it leaves me with my other computer that can be entirely re-purposed to do something else productive, thats an $800 investment worth the effort. sure, you have to look at such things; you can't (or shouldn't) just be consumericanist about the whole issue of 'plastic junk for $xxx'
glibly over-analyzing a devices' shortcomings on the basis of specs is a waste of time, in my opinion. what are you going to do with it, and how will you get your return from that investment? i can see a lot of uses for Pepper in many, many, many productive business scenario's.
how much time have you wasted doing viruses on your $2000 PC? how much time do you figure you'll waste on the Pepper, with regards to this issue, compared to how much you'll use it?
Heh. Funny thing is I pointed out the price difference to avoid shitheaded comments like this.
yeah, but you went ahead and posted your lame-duck post anyway, knowing that the whole point was irrelevant. i mean, c'mon, you gotta crap on the Pepper because its 'underwhelming' compared to your $2000 system?