If you want your app do be able to handle and display HTML, you don't have to do any additional coding.
E.g. SubEthaEdit (a Cocoa text editor) uses WebKit for previewing your code.
There are some RSS readers which use WebKit for displaying the websites inline. So the coders can focus on improving the GUI and RSS handling of their RSS readers and don't have to bother about the HTML rendering part. You just get that functionality "for free" when coding in Cocoa.
And they have had two excellent examples on how to do it right (Mac OS and Mac OS X) and they still took Windows as their role model. How can you reach any acceptable quality if what you copy is exactly what you despise most?
Once OSS programmers will stop puking dialogues at my face with [yes] [no] [cancel] buttons at every occasion, that will be the time I might consider GNOME or KDE a usable desktop*
*This utterly braindead [yes] [no] [cancel] coding is starting to infect even some of the Mac coders. If there's a rest of good in you, please stop the madness!
First you set it up for them. So they wouldn't be able to do it themselves. I find that alone makes people feel really unsecure about using it, because they don't feel like they are or even could be in control.
On Mac OS X I find people who've never used computers or even don't like computers doing the initial setup themselves. And that gives them a feeling of "wow, even I can do that! I might actually be able to really use that thing".
The most amazing thing to me was that most computer-illiterate people I've introduced to OS X have after a while started using the computer for things they'd never thought they'd be able to do. They'd start taking pictures with their digital camera and organize them in photo albums, they might make postcards or whatever from those pictures, then some got.Mac and uploaded photo albums to their website.
They get into these things, because they sort of play around with the iLife apps (out of curiosity) and find that they are so easy to use (even without a manual) that they grasp the concept in no time.
Some even became really adventurous and bought DV cameras, starting to edit movies and make their own DVDs. If I would have told them they'd be doing things like that with the computer, they would have laughed at me and called me a dreamer.
>OS X on Intel will cost a hell of a lot more than a nice Linux desktop, and come with a lot less.
It will come with a lot more than ANY Linux box. Because
you can basically run almost any of the OSS software available for Linux on OS X (be it natively like AbiWord or in X11 like the GIMP), plus
it gives you access to tons of commercial software/shareware, plus
it gives you access to tons of highly polished easy to use free (beer and speech) Cocoa apps (OS X only), plus
bundled stuff like iLife makes it look like a fucking lot to me, there's nothing that comes even close in simplicity and usefulness anywhere.*
Just as an example: there are a lot of nice Cocoa apps that hook into your iLife collections, so you can directly access all of your photoalbums and Music collections/playlists from within other apps directly (applications like RapidWeaver, Comic Life and the likes can access the albums and photos in iPhoto directly using the Apple provided APIs). Again that level of integration saves a lot of time and makes things that more fun. This is just one example of many.
* of course there are far more advanced Photo organizers DVD and video editing packages etc., but the iLife applications do the job in most cases in an astoundingly simple fashion. I used to do pro video work on Final Cut Pro, but nowadays I don't have time to fuck around with applications, so I often use the simpler (and more limited) iApps, and get the job done anyway.
On the Mac there are actually several setup assistans that do that dialogue-based hand holding setup with you, if you're a beginner and have no idea what all this tech goobedy-gook means.
But you can always just hit COMMAND+Q (quit) and tell them to bugger off, then go into the preference panel etc. and set everything up yourself. I think it's a good thing to have the option.
The only reason I can see why you would have posted this really well written post as AC is, that you're usually writing utter crap and, you'd be embarrassed if people thought you were an intellectual.
All printers who have some dignity left (and all the ones I know), basically don't accept Publisher data. Many also won't output Word documents directly to film or plate. They'd insist to do the layout themselves.
Don't you think that simply showing that you had THE BOMB and showing its devastating powers on, say, some uninhabitated island (by completely erasing it from the face of the earth), would have had maybe enough impact?
Then you give the other side a little bit of time to think. And then, only then you might eventually consider an atomic holocaust as the US did, and usually once, not twice in short succession on highly populated areas.
But WTF? The US have always been a bit too trigger happy, it won't change.
I mean, it is a fact that Nixon considered seriously to drop the bomb on Vietnam... And now Bush wants to develop smaller nukes, so he can start using nuclear weapons whenever he sees fit. Great moral standards you've got there.
It's just so appaling how you're always operating a double standard. I mean, just look at Pearl Harbour, you got attacked during the war on a military base (what unexpected place for an attack!), and you always shit your pants about the shame and the deviousness of that attack. WHAT? It was war, it was a military base! Get over it!
P.S.: The number of victims of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is actually estimated to about 200,000 people.
But don't forget, you are what you is. And no matter where you go, there you are. Nothing is ever what it seems to be, but everything is exactly what it is. And that is exactly why a fool can throw a stone into the water, which ten wise men cannot recover.
Of course, the atomic bomb is responsible for saving more lives than any other thing in history.
Great I'll tell this to all the victims of your mindless bombing of two cities with dense population in close succession in Japan. They'll thank me and the US for saving so many lives.
Or do you think the lack of a World War III is just a coincidence?
Just because there was no World War III proves that atomic bombs have prevented it? Cool line of reasoning. I tell you a secret. The fact that there was no World War III is solely because I am wearing grey socks on weekdays and ones with holes in them on the weekend (ever heard of the magic chaos butterfly? It's actually me and I'm always compensating).
Welcome to the 21st century Mac OS X (="ten") is a UNIX based bad motherfucker based on OPENSTEP/NeXSTEP technology now (and going far beyond in some places).
Please try to keep your half-assed knowledge about Macs at least a bit more recent than, e-i-g-h-t years (brand new G3? External modem? WTF? This must have been a beige G3. When where they brand new? Like 1997? All later G3s came with built-in Modems).
This is an interesting idea, however as an end user, if I'd lay money on the table I'd want the problems fixed. All of them. Now. For sure.
Buying a Mac does the job for him. Immediate gratification.
I see how just donating and hoping that some day this money will do some good, so maybe in a year or two one can actually use a system that partly works a bit more the way one would expect, is not as satisfiying as buying a sexy PowerBook from Apple, have all your problems fixed immediately. All of them. Right away. For sure. (plus you suddenly get to watch DVDs legally, on a gorgeous screen).
An have you considered that I and millions of other do not give a flying fuck what you or JWZ use? Have you consiered that I and a million other people don't really want to hear you bitch about how much linux is teh sux?
He might have meant NeoOffice/J, which is a Java port of OpenOffice that behaves a bit more like a native OS X app than the X11 version (which really sucks, I have to say).
You dragged it from the Finder sidebar to the Dock?
When you do that, a little cloud next to the icon will show up (while dragging) indicating that dragging things out of the Finder sidebar will make it go poof. This shouldn't be too hard to understand.
And anyway, why on earth did it take you a while to drag the folder back into the sidebar? Was your mouse acting up?
And, really, who are you to tell me how to work? If you know a better way of writing code, compiling, and watching the output easily, let me know. And apple+tabbing around isn't that graceful. Expose isn't that useful. It's nice to jump to a second desktop and having the windows set up so I can see everything at once.
Welly, well, so you really didn't RTFM. You can hide Applications, by either hitting CMD+H (hide foremost app), or CMD+OPT+H (hide all others). This will hide all open windows of an application. Once you unhide them (click on the icon in the Dock or switch to the app via CMD+TAB) they will pop up with all the windows open in place as you had them. I've been doing this ever since Mac OS 7, and that's why I never felt the need for desktop managers or even Exposé.
You can even make this more convenient by clicking on an application Icon in the Dock while holding down the OPTION key, that way you will hide the foremost application while switching to the other app. Also if you click on the Desktop while holding OPTION, you can hide the current app while switching to the Finder. Yes this is very different from what Windows and Linux do, but I find it quite effective and you might want to give it a try for more than three minutes. You might be surprised.
If you switched to OS X just to use it EXACTLY the same way as a Linux box, what was the point of switchting? Just for shits and grins why don't you try to do things the Mac way for a little while and you might find it to be different, but maybe more effective in many ways. And if not you can come back here and rant to your hearts desire;-)
Slashdot Mirror
Whoa, so you're still running the OS X beta or what?
.ch doesn't mean China
Ever since 10.3 Safari does resumable downloads. And if you want a proper FTP program:
Cyberduck is free, it's even GPL (w00t!) and it's pure Cocoa beauty
http://cyberduck.ch/
P.S.: and no, that
If you want your app do be able to handle and display HTML, you don't have to do any additional coding.
E.g. SubEthaEdit (a Cocoa text editor) uses WebKit for previewing your code.
There are some RSS readers which use WebKit for displaying the websites inline. So the coders can focus on improving the GUI and RSS handling of their RSS readers and don't have to bother about the HTML rendering part. You just get that functionality "for free" when coding in Cocoa.
And they have had two excellent examples on how to do it right (Mac OS and Mac OS X) and they still took Windows as their role model.
How can you reach any acceptable quality if what you copy is exactly what you despise most?
Once OSS programmers will stop puking dialogues at my face with [yes] [no] [cancel] buttons at every occasion, that will be the time I might consider GNOME or KDE a usable desktop*
*This utterly braindead [yes] [no] [cancel] coding is starting to infect even some of the Mac coders. If there's a rest of good in you, please stop the madness!
First you set it up for them. So they wouldn't be able to do it themselves. I find that alone makes people feel really unsecure about using it, because they don't feel like they are or even could be in control.
.Mac and uploaded photo albums to their website.
On Mac OS X I find people who've never used computers or even don't like computers doing the initial setup themselves. And that gives them a feeling of "wow, even I can do that! I might actually be able to really use that thing".
The most amazing thing to me was that most computer-illiterate people I've introduced to OS X have after a while started using the computer for things they'd never thought they'd be able to do. They'd start taking pictures with their digital camera and organize them in photo albums, they might make postcards or whatever from those pictures, then some got
They get into these things, because they sort of play around with the iLife apps (out of curiosity) and find that they are so easy to use (even without a manual) that they grasp the concept in no time.
Some even became really adventurous and bought DV cameras, starting to edit movies and make their own DVDs. If I would have told them they'd be doing things like that with the computer, they would have laughed at me and called me a dreamer.
This is what the web says, and if it's on the web it must be true (it's in German, though):
He, he. You said "some".
So you admit that most of it is pr0n?
It will come with a lot more than ANY Linux box. Because
Just as an example: there are a lot of nice Cocoa apps that hook into your iLife collections, so you can directly access all of your photoalbums and Music collections/playlists from within other apps directly (applications like RapidWeaver, Comic Life and the likes can access the albums and photos in iPhoto directly using the Apple provided APIs). Again that level of integration saves a lot of time and makes things that more fun. This is just one example of many.
* of course there are far more advanced Photo organizers DVD and video editing packages etc., but the iLife applications do the job in most cases in an astoundingly simple fashion. I used to do pro video work on Final Cut Pro, but nowadays I don't have time to fuck around with applications, so I often use the simpler (and more limited) iApps, and get the job done anyway.
Because we all know memorizing hex numbers is so human centric and user friendly .
That's why Apple is encouraging people to use ASCII passwords.
On the Mac there are actually several setup assistans that do that dialogue-based hand holding setup with you, if you're a beginner and have no idea what all this tech goobedy-gook means.
But you can always just hit COMMAND+Q (quit) and tell them to bugger off, then go into the preference panel etc. and set everything up yourself.
I think it's a good thing to have the option.
And I do believe that this middle-click pasting is a really broken way of doing cut & paste in the first place.
Well considering that "Jedi" is a legally acknowleded religion in Australia, YES!
s tm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2218456.
The only reason I can see why you would have posted this really well written post as AC is, that you're usually writing utter crap and, you'd be embarrassed if people thought you were an intellectual.
Does that hit the spot?
Anyway full ACK for your post.
Fine, but once he's mastered it, just please make sure he won't change to the dark side of the force.
This only happens when you have "smooth scrolling" enabled in System Preferences >> Appearance.
I for my part hate smooth scrolling, so I have it always switched of and CTRL+page end will jump to the end of the page. No scrolling.
All printers who have some dignity left (and all the ones I know), basically don't accept Publisher data. Many also won't output Word documents directly to film or plate. They'd insist to do the layout themselves.
They DO!
But only the ones that don't use Terminal.app for copying files.
Don't you think that simply showing that you had THE BOMB and showing its devastating powers on, say, some uninhabitated island (by completely erasing it from the face of the earth), would have had maybe enough impact?
Then you give the other side a little bit of time to think. And then, only then you might eventually consider an atomic holocaust as the US did, and usually once, not twice in short succession on highly populated areas.
But WTF? The US have always been a bit too trigger happy, it won't change.
I mean, it is a fact that Nixon considered seriously to drop the bomb on Vietnam... And now Bush wants to develop smaller nukes, so he can start using nuclear weapons whenever he sees fit. Great moral standards you've got there.
It's just so appaling how you're always operating a double standard. I mean, just look at Pearl Harbour, you got attacked during the war on a military base (what unexpected place for an attack!), and you always shit your pants about the shame and the deviousness of that attack. WHAT? It was war, it was a military base! Get over it!
P.S.: The number of victims of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is actually estimated to about 200,000 people.
But don't forget, you are what you is. And no matter where you go, there you are. Nothing is ever what it seems to be, but everything is exactly what it is. And that is exactly why a fool can throw a stone into the water, which ten wise men cannot recover.
Of course, the atomic bomb is responsible for saving more lives than any other thing in history.
Great I'll tell this to all the victims of your mindless bombing of two cities with dense population in close succession in Japan. They'll thank me and the US for saving so many lives.
Or do you think the lack of a World War III is just a coincidence?
Just because there was no World War III proves that atomic bombs have prevented it? Cool line of reasoning.
I tell you a secret. The fact that there was no World War III is solely because I am wearing grey socks on weekdays and ones with holes in them on the weekend (ever heard of the magic chaos butterfly? It's actually me and I'm always compensating).
Your're talking OS 9.
Welcome to the 21st century Mac OS X (="ten") is a UNIX based bad motherfucker based on OPENSTEP/NeXSTEP technology now (and going far beyond in some places).
Please try to keep your half-assed knowledge about Macs at least a bit more recent than, e-i-g-h-t years (brand new G3? External modem? WTF? This must have been a beige G3. When where they brand new? Like 1997? All later G3s came with built-in Modems).
This is an interesting idea, however as an end user, if I'd lay money on the table I'd want the problems fixed. All of them. Now. For sure.
Buying a Mac does the job for him. Immediate gratification.
I see how just donating and hoping that some day this money will do some good, so maybe in a year or two one can actually use a system that partly works a bit more the way one would expect, is not as satisfiying as buying a sexy PowerBook from Apple, have all your problems fixed immediately. All of them. Right away. For sure. (plus you suddenly get to watch DVDs legally, on a gorgeous screen).
An have you considered that I and millions of other do not give a flying fuck what you or JWZ use? Have you consiered that I and a million other people don't really want to hear you bitch about how much linux is teh sux?
Huh?
Then WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU READING THIS ARTICLE?
He might have meant NeoOffice/J, which is a Java port of OpenOffice that behaves a bit more like a native OS X app than the X11 version (which really sucks, I have to say).
You dragged it from the Finder sidebar to the Dock?
When you do that, a little cloud next to the icon will show up (while dragging) indicating that dragging things out of the Finder sidebar will make it go poof. This shouldn't be too hard to understand.
And anyway, why on earth did it take you a while to drag the folder back into the sidebar? Was your mouse acting up?
Come on...
And, really, who are you to tell me how to work? If you know a better way of writing code, compiling, and watching the output easily, let me know. And apple+tabbing around isn't that graceful. Expose isn't that useful. It's nice to jump to a second desktop and having the windows set up so I can see everything at once.
;-)
Welly, well, so you really didn't RTFM. You can hide Applications, by either hitting CMD+H (hide foremost app), or CMD+OPT+H (hide all others). This will hide all open windows of an application. Once you unhide them (click on the icon in the Dock or switch to the app via CMD+TAB) they will pop up with all the windows open in place as you had them. I've been doing this ever since Mac OS 7, and that's why I never felt the need for desktop managers or even Exposé.
You can even make this more convenient by clicking on an application Icon in the Dock while holding down the OPTION key, that way you will hide the foremost application while switching to the other app. Also if you click on the Desktop while holding OPTION, you can hide the current app while switching to the Finder. Yes this is very different from what Windows and Linux do, but I find it quite effective and you might want to give it a try for more than three minutes. You might be surprised.
If you switched to OS X just to use it EXACTLY the same way as a Linux box, what was the point of switchting? Just for shits and grins why don't you try to do things the Mac way for a little while and you might find it to be different, but maybe more effective in many ways. And if not you can come back here and rant to your hearts desire