The study indicates that dozens of companies are discovered each year to have violated the terms of GPL, and if they are public companies, they are violating Sarbanes-Oxley.
The article said that if you violate the GPL, you violate SOx. This would therefore be A Good Thing (TM) as it would give even more power to the FSF to clear up abuses.
Misinterpreting articles in this way sends the wrong message to managers, however, who might think they're better off with M$. And no, managers don't read the article.
IMHO, the same company would be violating SOx as much if they bundled any M$ or other proprietary DLL/EXE/bitmap image into their software without explicitly mentioning it.
Congratulations! Views like yours would fuel a lot more _true_ faith, instead of the blind following of obscurantist dogma that these ID preachers try to impose. To me, science is my faith: I cannot prove anything in science, I cannot say it is the absolute Truth, but it's my way of describing and understanding the world.
At least science has the humility of calling its teachings theory. Can you imagine this the other way around? Imposing that preachers spend 5 minutes after each sermon giving an 'alternate' darwinian view on evolution?
Because most developers aren't good at database programming. They're much more comfy with spewing out the same code in PHP, Perl or C, even if less efficient. Only biggish projects can afford the luxury of having competent DB programmers, but this is typically where the company can afford Oracle licences.
I completely thrashed my mates, having access to a network of 400 alphas and 450 SGIs. When the sysadmins decided they would charge the business units according to CPU cycles I discreetly stopped. It only lasted a month, but it was a good month.
I quite agree. J2EE platforms are big chugging things which admittedly give lots of session control and connector pools and such stuff, but as a server admin, I find I get less hassle from the process-then-feed-the-page PHP sites than the heavy Java sites.
Just restarting our Websphere instances fully with all connectors takes 20 minutes, and it does need to be done regularly. PHP/Apache does not need to be restarted, or takes less than a second to do so, thus enabling higher uptimes. Uptimes being the variable part of my salary, I'll stick with Apache any day $-)
Was it John le Carré who said that the only valid reason to reelect Bush was to make him, and not someone else, take care of the mess he's made. And thus take responsibility.
I still use Latex for my resumé. Initialy I used Latex because it was the easiest way to get a PDF output cross-platform, now because I have some nifty macros defined which really have me a personal taste to the CV. Would go for OO if starting from scratch now though.
An interesting quote from the article is this : "On average, the Windows setup had just over 30 days of risk versus 71 days for the Red Hat setup, their study found." Which to me indicates that these guys are indeed comparing distros (Win vs RH). It seems more convenient from an OSS standpoint to compare the "days of risk" of the application, in which case we would still have 30 DOR for Win (as security patches are only distributed through the OS channel), whereas for example Apache (not the RH package) patches would be available sooner than the 71 days.
Having said this, I consider the point rather moot, as (i quote again) "Both were in the most basic configuration", which I would be amused to find in any professionaly set up config. Few (and fewer) are the companies who don't either have the competence to set up a secure-ish configuration or outsource the config to someone who is competent.
This study does show that IS security and IS infrastructure setup in general is not to be handed to newbies. This is where Windows is dangerous, as it lulls you into a false sense of security.
I agree FF1.0 is the best one to have. First non-beta version &c.
However, I worry if we get into the same "upgrade-or-die" frenzy as with IE. No-one wants to be told that their navigator which has worked fine for 6 months has suddenly become a security hole. I was hoping Mozilla could steer clear of this
For personal use, I don't know of any cases where its a problem. You might not want to install the server packages (is that 'default')? Businesses, I understand.
My W2K box was unuseable after 20 minutes on the net (time to download 602 LAN & an antivirus), and I had to clean it up in safe mode.
Linux I boot in failsafe every 6 months or so to do crash recovery (yes, it happens), usually an fsck and we're off again.
Redistributed wealth = theft from those who work to give to those who don't.
I said well distributed wealth. I'll try to explain a little bit slower.... WDW means that the difference between rich and poor is small. I.e. manufacturing jobs are well paid, and Enron-type bosses don't make a cut on bankrupcies.
As for welfare etc being morally correct, I see it as the apogée of christian charity. Institutionalised, it is true, but the idea of society caring for the poor - and no difference is made about working or no - is extremely predominant in the Bible. Which makes for wonderful people like Mother Teresa. The only reason there is a conflict is that Marxism and Religion didn't mix.
And Ikea was a Swedish company at it's beginnings. You are right about the Dutch though - they are far more liberal than the Swedes (gay marriage, abortion, cannabis), while being slightly less socialist.
You know, you pretty much completely ignore my questions
Ok: yes, I would rather have a man shot down than him kill me wife. Sorry to not have answered it, it was just fairly stupid.
non sequitors..technique.
Not at all a technique, it's called entertaining a conversation. Keeps boredom away by renewing the debate a bit.
Hitler... Hussein Get me not wrong : I am eternally grateful to the men of all countries who helped Europe out of WWII, and I hope Europe can some day pay back this debt. However, paying back does not invole bullying some silly muppet with an ego problem, a toy army, a silly mustache and one of the world's largest oil supplies. It's an insult to the people who died -and are dying - there. In 2003, Iraq was a sovereign country, at war with no-one.
Hint: freedom is not won by marches or un-washed college students having sit-ins. It is won by soldiers.
Agreed. But oppression is also maintained by soldiers. Freedom must also be desired. What happens - and it's far from impossible - if the Iraqui people elect a religious government which cuts off all oil to the west, imposes the charia, puts tchadors on their women and then abolishes democracy? Of course liberty is essential, but it cannot be imposed if not understood.
These are not qualities of fascism, or a definition.
I beg to differ. The same link gives "Fascist was originally used to describe the government of Benito Mussolini in Italy." By definition therefore, fascism is what Mussolini made of it.
And you can define it any way you like, those are the reccuring (there are others - economic, social) themes of fascism.
You still didn't answer the question,
There wasn't a question.
Bush and fascism are 180 degrees separate
I never said Bush was a fascist. I said "Fascists are extreme right wing BTW." You associated the two. I also added "But let's not get silly : there is no comparison possible". Are you reading what I'm writing or what you'd like me to have written?
It is very arrogant and totalitarian to decide that since you don't see the point in something, it should be abolished.
So totalitarian is voicing one's opinion? Or is it only opinions contrary to yours? No, I don't understand. Yes, I think it should be abolished. There's nothing totalitarian about that.
If the individual's right to something is prime, than why is cocaine illegal?
Coming from someone who would apparently prefer a loved one to be harmed before the police shoot him
Very amusing.
Heinlein
There is extensive litterature on the subject, my reference will not be a militarist sci-fi writer.
Maybe you need to live in a less dangerous place?
I do.
I did of course mean than the place you are living in. Se
Redistributed wealth = theft from those who work to give to those who don't.
I said well distributed wealth. I'll try to explain a little bit slower.... WDW means that the difference between rich and poor is small. I.e. manufacturing jobs are well paid, and Enron-type bosses don't make a cut on bankrupcies.
As for welfare etc being morally correct, I see it as the apogée of christian charity. Institutionalised, it is true, but the idea of society caring for the poor - and no difference is made about working or no - is extremely predominant in the Bible. Which makes for wonderful people like Mother Teresa. The only reason there is a conflict is that Marxism and Religion didn't mix.
And Ikea was a Swedish company at it's beginnings. You are right about the Dutch though - they are far more liberal than the Swedes (gay marriage, abortion, cannabis), while being slightly less socialist.
You know, you pretty much completely ignore my questions,
Ok: yes, I would rather have a man shot down than him kill me wife. Sorry to not have answered it, it was just fairly stupid.
non sequitors..technique.
Not at all a technique, it's called entertaining a conversation. Keeps boredom away by renewing the debate a bit.
Hitler... Hussein Get me not wrong : I am eternally grateful to the men of all countries who helped Europe out of WWII, and I hope Europe can some day pay back this debt. However, paying back does not invole bullying some silly muppet with a toy army, silly mustache and one of the world's largest oil supply. It's an insult to the people who died -and are dying - there. In 2003, Iraq was a sovereign country, at war with no-one. Here are a few US handlings with dictators
Hint: freedom is not won by marches or un-washed college students having sit-ins. It is won by soldiers.
Agreed. But oppression is also maintained by soldiers. Freedom must also be desired - what happens - and it's far from impossible - if the Iraqui people elect a religious government which cuts off all oil to the west, imposes the charia, puts tchadors on their women and then abolishes democracy? Of course liberty is essential, but it cannot be imposed if not understood.
These are not qualities of fascism, or a definition.
I beg to differ. The same link gives "Fascist was originally used to describe the government of Benito Mussolini in Italy." By definition therefore, fascism is what Mussolini made of it.
And you can define it any way you like, those are the reccuring (there are others - economic, social) themes of fascism.
You still didn't answer the question,
There wasn't a question.
Bush and fascism are 180 degrees separate
I never said Bush was a fascist. I said "Fascists are extreme right wing BTW." You associated the two. I also added "But let's not get silly : there is no comparison possible". Are you reading what I'm writing or what you'd like me to have written?
It is very arrogant and totalitarian to decide that since you don't see the point in something, it should be abolished.
So totalitarian is voicing one's opinion? Or is it only opinions contrary to yours? No, I don't understand. Yes, I think it should be abolished. There's nothing totalitarian about that.
If the individual's right to something is prime, than why is cocaine illegal?
Coming from someone who would apparently prefer a loved one to be harmed before the police shoot him
Very amusing.
Heinlein
There is extensive litterature on the subject, my reference will not be a militarist sci-fi writer.
Maybe you need to live in a less dangerous place?
I do.
I did of course mean than the place you ar e living in. Seems pretty dangerous to
Slashdot Mirror
I can't see "Switch to Firefox" as being a feature, nor the displaying or not of it as a "limitation".
France is going to be the country to revolutionize P2P and digital copyrights in general, and you still sit there and whine about them?
The study indicates that dozens of companies are discovered each year to have violated the terms of GPL, and if they are public companies, they are violating Sarbanes-Oxley.
The article said that if you violate the GPL, you violate SOx. This would therefore be A Good Thing (TM) as it would give even more power to the FSF to clear up abuses.
Misinterpreting articles in this way sends the wrong message to managers, however, who might think they're better off with M$. And no, managers don't read the article.
IMHO, the same company would be violating SOx as much if they bundled any M$ or other proprietary DLL/EXE/bitmap image into their software without explicitly mentioning it.
And really, they might as well replace "magnetic" with "pork chop,"
And just HOW did you find out about the "Homer 2" prototype? It's supposed to be Top Secret!
The guys at NASA.
Either way, I agree with Mark Twain. There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
I thought that was Churchill.
Hear hear!
Another question is: are ImageMagick vulnerabilities nonexistent on windows? If not, why are they in the *nix part of the survey?
(OK, so I got another post saying the same thing. Ignore it)
Is it just me or are all the open softwares under *nix? Don't ImageMagick vulnerabilities exist on Windows as well?
Congratulations!
Views like yours would fuel a lot more _true_ faith, instead of the blind following of obscurantist dogma that these ID preachers try to impose.
To me, science is my faith: I cannot prove anything in science, I cannot say it is the absolute Truth, but it's my way of describing and understanding the world.
At least science has the humility of calling its teachings theory. Can you imagine this the other way around? Imposing that preachers spend 5 minutes after each sermon giving an 'alternate' darwinian view on evolution?
I'd love to see the debate then..
--F2 ?
Because most developers aren't good at database programming. They're much more comfy with spewing out the same code in PHP, Perl or C, even if less efficient. Only biggish projects can afford the luxury of having competent DB programmers, but this is typically where the company can afford Oracle licences.
I completely thrashed my mates, having access to a network of 400 alphas and 450 SGIs. When the sysadmins decided they would charge the business units according to CPU cycles I discreetly stopped. It only lasted a month, but it was a good month.
"No security through obscurity"?
I quite agree. J2EE platforms are big chugging things which admittedly give lots of session control and connector pools and such stuff, but as a server admin, I find I get less hassle from the process-then-feed-the-page PHP sites than the heavy Java sites.
Just restarting our Websphere instances fully with all connectors takes 20 minutes, and it does need to be done regularly. PHP/Apache does not need to be restarted, or takes less than a second to do so, thus enabling higher uptimes. Uptimes being the variable part of my salary, I'll stick with Apache any day $-)
That's an admin, not developper view.
Was it John le Carré who said that the only valid reason to reelect Bush was to make him, and not someone else, take care of the mess he's made. And thus take responsibility.
Hope 4 years will be enough.
I still use Latex for my resumé. Initialy I used Latex because it was the easiest way to get a PDF output cross-platform, now because I have some nifty macros defined which really have me a personal taste to the CV. Would go for OO if starting from scratch now though.
Surely the first running programme must have been the screenshot programme?
An interesting quote from the article is this : "On average, the Windows setup had just over 30 days of risk versus 71 days for the Red Hat setup, their study found."
Which to me indicates that these guys are indeed comparing distros (Win vs RH). It seems more convenient from an OSS standpoint to compare the "days of risk" of the application, in which case we would still have 30 DOR for Win (as security patches are only distributed through the OS channel), whereas for example Apache (not the RH package) patches would be available sooner than the 71 days.
Having said this, I consider the point rather moot, as (i quote again) "Both were in the most basic configuration", which I would be amused to find in any professionaly set up config. Few (and fewer) are the companies who don't either have the competence to set up a secure-ish configuration or outsource the config to someone who is competent.
This study does show that IS security and IS infrastructure setup in general is not to be handed to newbies. This is where Windows is dangerous, as it lulls you into a false sense of security.
The guy who can migrate OpenSTA for me gets a crate of Champagne.
I agree FF1.0 is the best one to have. First non-beta version &c.
However, I worry if we get into the same "upgrade-or-die" frenzy as with IE. No-one wants to be told that their navigator which has worked fine for 6 months has suddenly become a security hole. I was hoping Mozilla could steer clear of this
Actually, those are virii. Not harmful ones, but they need not be.
For personal use, I don't know of any cases where its a problem. You might not want to install the server packages (is that 'default')? Businesses, I understand.
My W2K box was unuseable after 20 minutes on the net (time to download 602 LAN & an antivirus), and I had to clean it up in safe mode.
Linux I boot in failsafe every 6 months or so to do crash recovery (yes, it happens), usually an fsck and we're off again.
MS should have been broken up. It would have been the healthiest thing for both the stock holders and the software market.
And, IMHO, possibly the healthiest thing for MS too.
Probably a paying version of SuSE, so still shelling out money for the OS. Probably less though, and I for one would rather give it to SuSE than MS.
Redistributed wealth = theft from those who work to give to those who don't.
..technique.
... Hussein
I said well distributed wealth. I'll try to explain a little bit slower.... WDW means that the difference between rich and poor is small. I.e. manufacturing jobs are well paid, and Enron-type bosses don't make a cut on bankrupcies.
As for welfare etc being morally correct, I see it as the apogée of christian charity. Institutionalised, it is true, but the idea of society caring for the poor - and no difference is made about working or no - is extremely predominant in the Bible. Which makes for wonderful people like Mother Teresa. The only reason there is a conflict is that Marxism and Religion didn't mix.
And Ikea was a Swedish company at it's beginnings. You are right about the Dutch though - they are far more liberal than the Swedes (gay marriage, abortion, cannabis), while being slightly less socialist.
You know, you pretty much completely ignore my questions
Ok: yes, I would rather have a man shot down than him kill me wife. Sorry to not have answered it, it was just fairly stupid.
non sequitors
Not at all a technique, it's called entertaining a conversation. Keeps boredom away by renewing the debate a bit.
Hitler
Get me not wrong : I am eternally grateful to the men of all countries who helped Europe out of WWII, and I hope Europe can some day pay back this debt. However, paying back does not invole bullying some silly muppet with an ego problem, a toy army, a silly mustache and one of the world's largest oil supplies. It's an insult to the people who died -and are dying - there. In 2003, Iraq was a sovereign country, at war with no-one.
Here are a few US handlings with dictators
Hint: freedom is not won by marches or un-washed college students having sit-ins. It is won by soldiers.
Agreed. But oppression is also maintained by soldiers. Freedom must also be desired. What happens - and it's far from impossible - if the Iraqui people elect a religious government which cuts off all oil to the west, imposes the charia, puts tchadors on their women and then abolishes democracy? Of course liberty is essential, but it cannot be imposed if not understood.
These are not qualities of fascism, or a definition.
I beg to differ. The same link gives "Fascist was originally used to describe the government of Benito Mussolini in Italy." By definition therefore, fascism is what Mussolini made of it.
And you can define it any way you like, those are the reccuring (there are others - economic, social) themes of fascism.
You still didn't answer the question,
There wasn't a question.
Bush and fascism are 180 degrees separate
I never said Bush was a fascist. I said "Fascists are extreme right wing BTW." You associated the two. I also added "But let's not get silly : there is no comparison possible". Are you reading what I'm writing or what you'd like me to have written?
It is very arrogant and totalitarian to decide that since you don't see the point in something, it should be abolished.
So totalitarian is voicing one's opinion? Or is it only opinions contrary to yours? No, I don't understand. Yes, I think it should be abolished. There's nothing totalitarian about that.
If the individual's right to something is prime, than why is cocaine illegal?
Coming from someone who would apparently prefer a loved one to be harmed before the police shoot him
Very amusing.
Heinlein
There is extensive litterature on the subject, my reference will not be a militarist sci-fi writer.
Maybe you need to live in a less dangerous place?
I do.
I did of course mean than the place you are living in. Se
Redistributed wealth = theft from those who work to give to those who don't.
..technique.
... Hussein
I said well distributed wealth. I'll try to explain a little bit slower.... WDW means that the difference between rich and poor is small. I.e. manufacturing jobs are well paid, and Enron-type bosses don't make a cut on bankrupcies.
As for welfare etc being morally correct, I see it as the apogée of christian charity. Institutionalised, it is true, but the idea of society caring for the poor - and no difference is made about working or no - is extremely predominant in the Bible. Which makes for wonderful people like Mother Teresa. The only reason there is a conflict is that Marxism and Religion didn't mix.
And Ikea was a Swedish company at it's beginnings. You are right about the Dutch though - they are far more liberal than the Swedes (gay marriage, abortion, cannabis), while being slightly less socialist.
You know, you pretty much completely ignore my questions,
Ok: yes, I would rather have a man shot down than him kill me wife. Sorry to not have answered it, it was just fairly stupid.
non sequitors
Not at all a technique, it's called entertaining a conversation. Keeps boredom away by renewing the debate a bit.
Hitler
Get me not wrong : I am eternally grateful to the men of all countries who helped Europe out of WWII, and I hope Europe can some day pay back this debt. However, paying back does not invole bullying some silly muppet with a toy army, silly mustache and one of the world's largest oil supply. It's an insult to the people who died -and are dying - there. In 2003, Iraq was a sovereign country, at war with no-one.
Here are a few US handlings with dictators
Hint: freedom is not won by marches or un-washed college students having sit-ins. It is won by soldiers.
Agreed. But oppression is also maintained by soldiers. Freedom must also be desired - what happens - and it's far from impossible - if the Iraqui people elect a religious government which cuts off all oil to the west, imposes the charia, puts tchadors on their women and then abolishes democracy? Of course liberty is essential, but it cannot be imposed if not understood.
These are not qualities of fascism, or a definition.
I beg to differ. The same link gives "Fascist was originally used to describe the government of Benito Mussolini in Italy." By definition therefore, fascism is what Mussolini made of it.
And you can define it any way you like, those are the reccuring (there are others - economic, social) themes of fascism.
You still didn't answer the question,
There wasn't a question.
Bush and fascism are 180 degrees separate
I never said Bush was a fascist. I said "Fascists are extreme right wing BTW." You associated the two. I also added "But let's not get silly : there is no comparison possible". Are you reading what I'm writing or what you'd like me to have written?
It is very arrogant and totalitarian to decide that since you don't see the point in something, it should be abolished.
So totalitarian is voicing one's opinion? Or is it only opinions contrary to yours? No, I don't understand. Yes, I think it should be abolished. There's nothing totalitarian about that.
If the individual's right to something is prime, than why is cocaine illegal?
Coming from someone who would apparently prefer a loved one to be harmed before the police shoot him
Very amusing.
Heinlein
There is extensive litterature on the subject, my reference will not be a militarist sci-fi writer.
Maybe you need to live in a less dangerous place?
I do.
I did of course mean than the place you ar e living in. Seems pretty dangerous to