Instead of trying to act as the bigger predator as traditional software wars, they act as the symbiotic bacteria "infecting" the host.
I see your point, but at the same time, what Google is really doing in this case is applying Open Source models to a Closed Source application. One of the primary points of Open Source is you can see an application and modify it according to your whim, rather than having to depend on the originator.
Obviously, closed source makes this more difficult and provides limitations. So it's kind of a hybrid, using the plug-in model to go through a defined interface.
I'll take it. At least if it's France (#1), Italy (#2), Belgium (#21), or really anywhere better than the US (#37). Forget the talk show "rah rah rah U-S-A U-S-A" nonsense. If you think the US health care system is legitimately "the best", tell me by which measure.
Of course not. A project manager would look at this and go, "wow, we saved a lot of money!"
No, actually a project manager would look at this and ask, "hmm, which of the triple constraints of cost, time, or scope, are we endangering", and know enough to zero in on the so-called fourth constraint of Quality.
If not, then I suggest said alleged "project manager" is merely a wanna-be hack with no training.
Which brings us back to on topic. As others have pointed out, there's generally a reason you pay that much money for an EMC or a NetApp solution. If you go with the less costly solution, you are losing SOMETHING. A storage architect should know enough to assess what it is that is lost (performance, reliability, pretty flashing lights) and determine if that reduction in whatever-it-is is appropriate given the situation you are looking to address.
There has been countless numbers of open source projects that also do this. Just because it's open source it doesn't mean you're safe from such tactics - it just means the source is open. You can check the source and remove those parts, but not many of us do so.
To extend this, I'm going to take a wild leap of faith and assume the summary is correct when it states:
The terms of service that no one ever reads does describe the CPU- and bandwidth-robbing moneymaker
I'd ask, then, what are you (the end user) going to read? If you aren't willing to read the TOS, are you really that likely to peruse through the source code of an application just because you happen to have it available?
outlook needs a threaded email system like gmail has. that way, if there were 10 responses to 1 email, they will all show up as 1 big thread rather than 11 separate emails.
It does. It's not the default, but it's easy to turn on.
You are also allowed to do whatever you want with an Odometer in your own vehicle. Just don't go and claim that the reading is accurate.
Sure about that? I'd argue that section 32703(b) might contradict your assertion. Notice that the next paragraph specifically includes the bit about not operating on the street with intent to defraud, but paragraph (b) contains no such stipulation. It just says "thou shalt not".
Same age as you, and firstly I should say how fortunate you are to have this choice in the context of the current economy. Nice position to be in:)
My perspective: there are definite niches in tech, and if you find one you can become virtually irreplaceable. But if your skills are more generic (no matter how good), then ageism is a very real danger, as your experience and longevity become more expensive.
Most people on/. seem to have a different problem. They have someone trying to push them into management and they have no desire to go that route. But you say you enjoy it. So, in your position, I'd be going the management route. With a strong technical background and some management skills/business knowledge, you become a very valuable manager, and that will only increase.
One final point: if you try management full time for six months and find it's not really what you expected, will your company let you go back to the technical track? If so, then I'd say the choice writes itself. What have you got to lose?
Yes, but it's not that hard to find someone. But Hummingbird (now owned by Open Text) or any other Document Management System. You've got a bunch of documents. You need to manage them. Ergo, a document management system.
Parent makes an excellent point, however: the single most critical component of a successful implementation is to get a skilled* consultant who can work with you to properly define the taxonomy. Everything else flows from there.
* If you go with Hummingbird DM, "skilled" means "not one of their over priced professional services people". They're dreadful.
No it's not, it's copyright infringement. Capitalism is, in purest form, supply and demand (laissez-faire). If the price is too high, demand drops off. If something costs more than you are willing to pay, you do without, and the price drops or the supplier accepts the market price. I.e. it tends to equilibrium. Furthermore, that's what stimulates competition. Economics.
Because of course they have zero expenses. It's more appropriate to point out it's $3.7 billion in net income. (I'm not claiming $3.7 billion is a trivial amount.)
Much less likelihood of getting stuck in a traffic jam.
I now have significantly more time to do what I want. If I'm driving, I'm concentrating on driving. If I'm sitting on a train, I can enjoy the scenery, read a book, pull out my laptop and do some work if I feel up to it, or take a nap if I don't.
Bring it. I don't even care if they're not such high-speed trains. (Remember the silly claims about the Acela so-called high-speed trains in the Northeast corridor? Laughable. I'll just take the regular trains that get there ten minutes later and cost half the price.)
All I want is more connections. If I could take the train to work I would. Even transferring to a local bus would work for me. Presto: I now have an extra couple of hours per day for reading, studying, whatever I want. My commute is just wasted time.
This is probably as good a place to enter my comments as any. I've done a lot of consulting for law firms in three different countries, including the U.S.
Rules and regulations regarding online storage? Shouldn't your relative know that? 1a. And if a bar association recommendation isn't enough for you, what the heck are you going to do with a completely random bunch of comments from all of us lot?
Never met a lawyer who wanted their stuff out of their grab.
Leads to: set up a file server in-house. If they can't afford a full-time admin, tell them to hire a consultant. Do the backups properly. Use Linux or NAS or whatever the consultant can support. Don't make it something niche and unheard of, you don't want the system to be unsupportable when the consultant moves to a different town.
Leads to: I've set up DMS systems (most of them Hummingbird DM, now owned by Open Text. It started off life as PC DOCS, and lots of lawyers still call it that) for lawyers in three different countries, including the U.S. DM is really popular in the legal field, and has a default library setup that includes client/matter. Plenty of others around, too. Point being a DMS is often a life saver for lawyers. They love them. I saw an earlier comment about "a full-blown CMS", but that's overkill for a lawyer. They just need document management.
Oh yes, and...
Naturally, as an IT guy, I lost it on him.
Of course, I think what you really mean is
Naturally, as a professional IT guy, I advised him in strong terms that this was inadvisable.
Dry Runs/Trial Runs: Behavior that appears to be preparation for a terrorist act without actually committing the act. Activity could include mapping out routes and determining the timing of traffic lights and flow.
Dammit. A group of us did this in Auckland city one Friday night when I was a bit younger and we were bored. Any casual observer would've seen a group of six or seven of us carefully timing the traffic lights at the bottom of Queen Street for, oh, 20 or 30 minutes.
After we'd figured out the timing perfectly, we executed our nefarious plot. As soon as the lights turned red, we rushed into the middle of the intersection with a small couch, a couple of chairs, and a lamp, set up a mock living room, quickly took some photographs, and rushed back to safety just as the lights turned green.
And we thought we were just having some innocent fun on a Friday night!
I'm bound to get modded a troll or flamebait or off-topic or something for this, but how is this different from pirating music?/. group-think says it's not theft and trots out a whole bunch of other self-justification about the evil RIAA and so forth, because you're "not depriving anyone of something physical", etc. It's the same, right?
Is it different in this case because it's a small company doing it rather than a whole bunch of individuals? Does that mean it's okay if it's just me, but wrong if my company is doing it?
So to answer the question at hand: go the CYA route suggested by the very first poster, and make sure you point out (nicely as you need to, given this economy and how sure you are of being able to find another job) that this is illegal.*
* Just like music piracy. Even if you want to claim it's not theft.
I'm afraid Microsoft will have felt the warm breath of the FOSS community in its fat neck, so I predict Windows 7 will actually be pleasant to use.
But that's good, right? After all, the point of all of this is that competition leads to improvements all around, and anything which makes something better for the consumer is a bonus. After all, this is about giving the consumer more and better choices, yes? Not just some arbitrary ego-massaging war...
Out of interest, just how big an environment and how complex a set of GPOs do you have that it takes several minutes to apply group policy every morning? Does that mean you prefer to leave every workstation in the corporation logged on and locked every night? If so, then do your shutdown and restart over the weekend to still realize efficiency savings, allow for patch maintenance windows, and only take a once-a-week hit. (Which, if it really is several minutes, indicates something's wrong.)
Pre-preamble: even though I know I gave anecdotal experience, I was nevertheless trying to use it to illustrate the generic.
Preamble: "we" means "the company". I had no responsibility in the original implementation and have no responsibility in the migration.
I'm not going to go through this whole thing item by item because it's just not that relevant. Core takeaway is that the monthly maintenance is a killer, and we save money by moving to an in-house hosted solution (not the in-house eRoom solution which is still hideously expensive, gives marginal value, and is just not very good).
Open source can work. Closed source can work. The rest of your post comes down to "make sure you analyze what you buy and know the business reasons/justification, do the cost analysis, etc.". I.e. understand the problem and get the appropriate solution. That was one of my points, too.
The other main point was to point out that it was amusing to see this listed in an article about using open source alternatives to save money, when it is a very expensive solution. It's not hard to get working (especially as the core business was originally a hosted solution). It just may not be the most cost-effective one. And it's certainly not cheap, let alone free.
{Glib answer #1} Because it's owned by Documentum. {Glib answer #2, but also serious} Why wouldn't it be? Just because it's open source doesn't automatically make it cheap/free.
We are migrating a whole bunch of sites away from eRoom because it's so expensive. (I didn't know it was open source, but the guy who brought it into our enterprise is a huge proponent of open source. He has rapidly lost interest in it over the past 12 months, mainly because it was a headache to administer and an embarrassment in a business sense because of the costs.)
Open source or not, I don't particularly care; I'm interested in doing the best thing for the business. In this case, eRoom is so expensive as to be unjustifiable, and we're realizing substantial cost savings by migrating to a closed source solution.
Bottom line: eRoom may (or may not) be a good technical solution, but I'm amused by seeing it in an article about using open source alternatives to save money.
How is this ripping off eBay? They were going to sell this item at $1 anyway. If anyone's being ripped off, it's the other eBay users who now realistically have zero chance (as opposed to a miniscule chance) of getting lucky and scoring a nice holiday bonus.
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Instead of trying to act as the bigger predator as traditional software wars, they act as the symbiotic bacteria "infecting" the host.
I see your point, but at the same time, what Google is really doing in this case is applying Open Source models to a Closed Source application. One of the primary points of Open Source is you can see an application and modify it according to your whim, rather than having to depend on the originator.
Obviously, closed source makes this more difficult and provides limitations. So it's kind of a hybrid, using the plug-in model to go through a defined interface.
I'll take it. At least if it's France (#1), Italy (#2), Belgium (#21), or really anywhere better than the US (#37). Forget the talk show "rah rah rah U-S-A U-S-A" nonsense. If you think the US health care system is legitimately "the best", tell me by which measure.
are you a project manager by any chance?
Of course not. A project manager would look at this and go, "wow, we saved a lot of money!"
No, actually a project manager would look at this and ask, "hmm, which of the triple constraints of cost, time, or scope, are we endangering", and know enough to zero in on the so-called fourth constraint of Quality.
If not, then I suggest said alleged "project manager" is merely a wanna-be hack with no training.
Which brings us back to on topic. As others have pointed out, there's generally a reason you pay that much money for an EMC or a NetApp solution. If you go with the less costly solution, you are losing SOMETHING. A storage architect should know enough to assess what it is that is lost (performance, reliability, pretty flashing lights) and determine if that reduction in whatever-it-is is appropriate given the situation you are looking to address.
There has been countless numbers of open source projects that also do this. Just because it's open source it doesn't mean you're safe from such tactics - it just means the source is open. You can check the source and remove those parts, but not many of us do so.
To extend this, I'm going to take a wild leap of faith and assume the summary is correct when it states:
The terms of service that no one ever reads does describe the CPU- and bandwidth-robbing moneymaker
I'd ask, then, what are you (the end user) going to read? If you aren't willing to read the TOS, are you really that likely to peruse through the source code of an application just because you happen to have it available?
outlook needs a threaded email system like gmail has. that way, if there were 10 responses to 1 email, they will all show up as 1 big thread rather than 11 separate emails.
It does. It's not the default, but it's easy to turn on.
You are also allowed to do whatever you want with an Odometer in your own vehicle. Just don't go and claim that the reading is accurate.
Sure about that? I'd argue that section 32703(b) might contradict your assertion. Notice that the next paragraph specifically includes the bit about not operating on the street with intent to defraud, but paragraph (b) contains no such stipulation. It just says "thou shalt not".
Same age as you, and firstly I should say how fortunate you are to have this choice in the context of the current economy. Nice position to be in :)
My perspective: there are definite niches in tech, and if you find one you can become virtually irreplaceable. But if your skills are more generic (no matter how good), then ageism is a very real danger, as your experience and longevity become more expensive.
Most people on /. seem to have a different problem. They have someone trying to push them into management and they have no desire to go that route. But you say you enjoy it. So, in your position, I'd be going the management route. With a strong technical background and some management skills/business knowledge, you become a very valuable manager, and that will only increase.
One final point: if you try management full time for six months and find it's not really what you expected, will your company let you go back to the technical track? If so, then I'd say the choice writes itself. What have you got to lose?
Yes, but it's not that hard to find someone. But Hummingbird (now owned by Open Text) or any other Document Management System. You've got a bunch of documents. You need to manage them. Ergo, a document management system.
Parent makes an excellent point, however: the single most critical component of a successful implementation is to get a skilled* consultant who can work with you to properly define the taxonomy. Everything else flows from there.
* If you go with Hummingbird DM, "skilled" means "not one of their over priced professional services people". They're dreadful.
Libellous.
And not just the Russians or the Americans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambier_Islands#Effects_of_French_nuclear_testing_on_the_Gambiers
Pirating copyrighted material is capitalism.
No it's not, it's copyright infringement. Capitalism is, in purest form, supply and demand (laissez-faire). If the price is too high, demand drops off. If something costs more than you are willing to pay, you do without, and the price drops or the supplier accepts the market price. I.e. it tends to equilibrium. Furthermore, that's what stimulates competition. Economics.
How is breaking the law enforcing capitalism?
Very good point. Actually, my only quibbles off the top of my head are:
Because of course they have zero expenses. It's more appropriate to point out it's $3.7 billion in net income. (I'm not claiming $3.7 billion is a trivial amount.)
Heck yeah. Why wouldn't I? I love the train.
Bring it. I don't even care if they're not such high-speed trains. (Remember the silly claims about the Acela so-called high-speed trains in the Northeast corridor? Laughable. I'll just take the regular trains that get there ten minutes later and cost half the price.)
All I want is more connections. If I could take the train to work I would. Even transferring to a local bus would work for me. Presto: I now have an extra couple of hours per day for reading, studying, whatever I want. My commute is just wasted time.
Re:GRAMMER POLICE
Grammar.
Oh, and does that really count as poor grammar as opposed to simply bad proofreading?
This is probably as good a place to enter my comments as any. I've done a lot of consulting for law firms in three different countries, including the U.S.
1a. And if a bar association recommendation isn't enough for you, what the heck are you going to do with a completely random bunch of comments from all of us lot?
Oh yes, and...
Naturally, as an IT guy, I lost it on him.
Of course, I think what you really mean is
Naturally, as a professional IT guy, I advised him in strong terms that this was inadvisable.
No need to be unprofessional, folks.
Dammit. A group of us did this in Auckland city one Friday night when I was a bit younger and we were bored. Any casual observer would've seen a group of six or seven of us carefully timing the traffic lights at the bottom of Queen Street for, oh, 20 or 30 minutes.
After we'd figured out the timing perfectly, we executed our nefarious plot. As soon as the lights turned red, we rushed into the middle of the intersection with a small couch, a couple of chairs, and a lamp, set up a mock living room, quickly took some photographs, and rushed back to safety just as the lights turned green.
And we thought we were just having some innocent fun on a Friday night!
I'm bound to get modded a troll or flamebait or off-topic or something for this, but how is this different from pirating music? /. group-think says it's not theft and trots out a whole bunch of other self-justification about the evil RIAA and so forth, because you're "not depriving anyone of something physical", etc. It's the same, right?
Is it different in this case because it's a small company doing it rather than a whole bunch of individuals? Does that mean it's okay if it's just me, but wrong if my company is doing it?
So to answer the question at hand: go the CYA route suggested by the very first poster, and make sure you point out (nicely as you need to, given this economy and how sure you are of being able to find another job) that this is illegal.*
* Just like music piracy. Even if you want to claim it's not theft.
I'm afraid Microsoft will have felt the warm breath of the FOSS community in its fat neck, so I predict Windows 7 will actually be pleasant to use.
But that's good, right? After all, the point of all of this is that competition leads to improvements all around, and anything which makes something better for the consumer is a bonus. After all, this is about giving the consumer more and better choices, yes? Not just some arbitrary ego-massaging war...
Out of interest, just how big an environment and how complex a set of GPOs do you have that it takes several minutes to apply group policy every morning? Does that mean you prefer to leave every workstation in the corporation logged on and locked every night? If so, then do your shutdown and restart over the weekend to still realize efficiency savings, allow for patch maintenance windows, and only take a once-a-week hit. (Which, if it really is several minutes, indicates something's wrong.)
So many people are making exactly this same argument on this thread, and they're all wrong.
Shut down the PCs an hour after everyone leaves, and wake them up an hour before everyone gets to the office.
Pre-preamble: even though I know I gave anecdotal experience, I was nevertheless trying to use it to illustrate the generic.
Preamble: "we" means "the company". I had no responsibility in the original implementation and have no responsibility in the migration.
I'm not going to go through this whole thing item by item because it's just not that relevant. Core takeaway is that the monthly maintenance is a killer, and we save money by moving to an in-house hosted solution (not the in-house eRoom solution which is still hideously expensive, gives marginal value, and is just not very good).
Open source can work. Closed source can work. The rest of your post comes down to "make sure you analyze what you buy and know the business reasons/justification, do the cost analysis, etc.". I.e. understand the problem and get the appropriate solution. That was one of my points, too.
The other main point was to point out that it was amusing to see this listed in an article about using open source alternatives to save money, when it is a very expensive solution. It's not hard to get working (especially as the core business was originally a hosted solution). It just may not be the most cost-effective one. And it's certainly not cheap, let alone free.
Enough?
{Glib answer #1} Because it's owned by Documentum.
{Glib answer #2, but also serious} Why wouldn't it be? Just because it's open source doesn't automatically make it cheap/free.
We are migrating a whole bunch of sites away from eRoom because it's so expensive. (I didn't know it was open source, but the guy who brought it into our enterprise is a huge proponent of open source. He has rapidly lost interest in it over the past 12 months, mainly because it was a headache to administer and an embarrassment in a business sense because of the costs.)
Open source or not, I don't particularly care; I'm interested in doing the best thing for the business. In this case, eRoom is so expensive as to be unjustifiable, and we're realizing substantial cost savings by migrating to a closed source solution.
Bottom line: eRoom may (or may not) be a good technical solution, but I'm amused by seeing it in an article about using open source alternatives to save money.
How is this ripping off eBay? They were going to sell this item at $1 anyway. If anyone's being ripped off, it's the other eBay users who now realistically have zero chance (as opposed to a miniscule chance) of getting lucky and scoring a nice holiday bonus.