AS much as I'm a guy who is REALLY a promoter of higher wages -- I totally disagree with your statement that; 'Poaching employees isn't being a dick" -- because the ONLY reason you are calling that person is because someone else wanted them.
It DEFINES a dick move -- it is absolutely the dynamic of dating in high school. The cheerleader wants the Quarterback but Jessica with the large breasts gets him ONLY because she wants to beat Suzy. Steve (the Quarterback) ends up with herpes and a paternity suite.
It is disruptive to business. You didn't FIND that talent -- you are merely using a bunch of money you COULD be using on research and finding the next great talent, but you decided to poach that one Star Quarterback. It does absolutely NOTHING to raise the wages for the guy sweeping the floor and everything to turn a business into an athletic club of prima-donnas and pissed off underlings. Everyone on Slashdot imagines themselves the wonder kid -- but I'm a bit older and more of a realist to know that great minds are usually ignored unless being assessed by another great mind. Mediocrity thinks beige is genius!
Normally I'd agree with you -- but it would be like 10 dudes getting golden enemas and it would do nothing for the vast majority of hard working, non-pedigree, working stiffs.
Johnny Ive would have been traded like a Babe Ruth baseball card about 5 times.
I'm sure there are people who don't like Apple, Microsoft or Google for whatever reason. I'll admit that I don't like Microsoft for good reasons, Google because they ripped off the iPhone while in a confidential relationship, and I don't trust Apple because they have MoJo -- $600 Billion in fact; and it's just a fool who doesn't always hold suspicion of the biggest Capitalist because, well, that kind of defines a fool.
That said -- absolutely, yes! When you look at the poaching that INTEL and AMD engaged in, it was good for a FEW key employees, but it had nothing to do with merit -- it was internecine warfare. Scorched earth.
To say nothing of that wunderkind who got the attention -- how do you think employees would feel who knew; "Hey, Scotty just got hired by Google for $2 Million a year plus benefits!" Every company would be able to have the same story about a poached asset, and they would ALL Suffer. Eventually, a company that was NOT a poaching target would end up on top merely because nobody poached from them. And would you REALLY want a Blackberry Smart phone to rule them all? Oh Hell no.
That makes a lot of sense. For the Same reason, during WW II, the US got great minds like Einstein.
However, due the incessant prattle of race baiting fascists on Fox News, and they Xenophobia promoted by Dominionist religions, we are probably LOSING a lot of great minds to countries that aren't becoming a bunch of fascist pricks.
I was ready to bail on this country if McCain/Palin were chosen as our leaders -- and I might be ready to bail if the re-elected Obama is still a Republican door mat. By any measure, this country has been SECURED up the wazoo. We have a 40 year low in crime but the police forces around the country are still gathering up drones, body armor, and pepper spray as if they had to deal with some sort of siege war.
Before November of 2008 -- a lot of laws and banks seemed to be VERY READY for the problems ahead -- and it strikes me that things like the Patriot Act and NDAA bills are all about preparing for an expected problem that someone worked really hard to create. You know, like Scott Walker needing to fire teachers because he had an economic shortfall in his state, that was about a million dollars less than the money he gave away to corporations to reward them for being in the state.
Disaster capitalists are creating the justification for their austerity measures, and anyone who is truly insightful, is already aware of where this country is headed. Perhaps I'm not that smart -- because I'm still an American. How fucking sad is that?
However, having had my debates with Global Warming Deniars, Pro Torture Advocates, People for the Protection of the Rich, and of course, the ever-present Citizens for Oil Company Profits who think that gas prices are about the free market -- I'm not so sure that ALL of this is SEO and Sock puppets.
Some people are just damn idiots putting sock puppets out of a job. There is something wrong with people who are morons for free.
Yeah, because ONLY terrorists scream and holler about their rights -- and GOOD CITIZENS capitulate.
What you've just described is a situation where the TSA security theater is merely there to make sure you bend over and say; "thank you sir."
Security doesn't have shit to do with people making jokes, or making a fuss. The guy who want's to mess you up will stay under the radar and be the most polite person up until the moment of truth.
In short, don't argue with the cop unless you're prepared for the consequences. -- Right, because we should all have consequences because we demand a Government and Security system that respects us.
I wonder if we don't need to offer J Edgar Hoover and apology.
I know we all THOUGHT he was keeping documents on everyone -- but who asked him to do it? Was he really running things, or was he pressured to track people by folks like McCarthy or Nixon?
With the prescience of 20/20 hindsight -- I have to wonder about the whole scandal of him dressing in women's undergarments -- because getting caught with some perverse act seems to be MORE of a threat to our CIA or Secret Service organizations than merely assassination, torture, or selling secrets about masses of US citizens to whomever wants to buy it (per the Wikipedia document dump showing just that).
I really -- really don't know. Just throwing it out there. Since 9/11 I've decided to re-check all the history I thought I knew and found that everything I knew was about 90% wrong. 10% truth these days must just be for the "flavor".
If Bing figures out that you LIKE Fox News, they never include results from Snopes.com, or anything that leans away from fairies and bean stalks towards reality.
The US Chamber of Commerce is a useful resource in the same way as Rush Limbaugh is a useful resource; You know anyone in that club is all about fucking over the common man in the USA for the benefit of the sponsors.
And the GOVERNMENT pays for all those expensive drugs that get designed.
Drug companies pay for the cost of APPROVING A DRUG -- not inventing it. And in the real world they pay more for marketing, than getting a drug to market.
"The more you know..." the more pissed of you are going to be.
I remember having sliced off the end of my finger -- and I politely asked; How much is this going to cost me? Before entering. They really took offense and said; "we can't possibly tell you that, sir." I said; "You've done this before, I'm sure, so what's the average bill for someone who might get a couple stitches?" They told me I was free to walk.
I paid $600 out of pocket for some betadine and gauze -- and I won a bet with my friends that; I would not bleed to death and, the emergency room would be mostly useless.
If I had not paid that $600 or more -- the Government would pay it with tax dollars. IN fact the Government pays 52% of the cost of medicine. Obviously, nobody is trying to bargain for a better deal.
It's depressing that I don't live in this wonderful USA you keep talking about. If I were to take my kids to the "Emergency Room" because they haven't seen a doctor in over 2 years -- it's going to cost me $600 for a band-aide. This FREE stuff you talk about, only happens if you have no assets or income. Perhaps if I swap identities with a homeless person -- I can get this sort of FREE health care from 1st year medical students who just moved up from cadavers.
We wracked up over $20,000 in medical costs while I had a good job and "good" health insurance. I lost my job and it's been 2 years trying to beg to get Medicaid to kick in. There is a well designed chasm between welfare and all the "social services" you might THINK are available - and actually getting your life back together. AS soon as you make money or have assets -- you get it 100% deducted from your meager support.
So you can guarantee someone will lose their house before they get those FREE medical visits.
>> I would imagine that you don't live in the USA -- or at least have NEVER experience the WONDERS that are our Social Safety Net. It's fucking depressing and I'm sure you are a Libertarian.
Much as I hate Rush Limbaugh; he's been a huge Apple fan since he's been on the air (sorry to have known him that long).
Apple NEVER paid him a dime for decades -- I'm not sure if they are now or not. Having Steve Jobs and Al Gore on the board doesn't make this company a natural ally with Rush. Apple even pulled out of the US Chamber of Commerce because they said it was corrupt and not in line with their ethics. They've been really successful by NOT really acting like true capitalists. They don't feed the market the dreck it thinks it wants, but give it things it SHOULD want. When people are buying their stuff -- they don't start cutting corners like Dell and find cheaper components -- they find stronger carbon fiber and Gorilla Glass. They don't buy up the competition or other companies with hundreds of billions of cash -- they sit on it and use it to guarantee the supplies of components. Apple even pushed to raise wages and working standards at FoxConn YEARS before they got all the bad press. So they are huge Capitalists without really intending to be Capitalists. [Crap, that sounds like a PRO Apple Rant -- I'm just trying to find something strange they did that ended up being STUPID] Oh yeah; they sued Samsung for a knock-off tablet that was NEVER GOING TO SELL CRAP just on the principle of it.
>> Maybe the NEW Apple will be a lot more corporate, and put Rush ads on the menu -- hard to say. But Steve Jobs went after Google for betraying him with their phone and his feelings when it made no economic sense.
I think in this one case, someone would have to pay Rush NOT to gush about Apple products because he is, I'm sorry to say, an Apple disciple.
We could test this ideology with Lab Rats -- but that might be stereotypical because someone is calling them rats merely because they have tails, hair, large teeth that continue to grow, squeek and were born from a mommy and daddy rat.
Broad Stereotypes should be expected when talking about a BROAD GROUP of people who self identify a certain way.
If Nazi Germany had conducted a survey, and it found that most Germans were angry, and would follow whatever leader made them feel less ashamed of past military defeats -- would that survey be bogus because it "broadly stereotyped Germans as angry"?
If something is screwed up in a country -- then maybe it's a large group of people who are MORE screwed up than the rest. Maybe everything isn't always equivalent and someone who pushes for civil rights and an end to slavery is perhaps more enlightened than someone who wants slavery to continue.
They have entire sermons in church talking about good and evil. And psychologists recognize "self destructive behavior." The only "shock here" is that the group of people less worried about Biblical sin, is perhaps the more mentally healthy group. It's not what social conservatives tell them self -- so it must not be true.
Religious/Social Conservatives will likely not believe anything they are told that is contrary to what the bible tells them. Conservatives who are big proponents of big oil are likely to not believe or will discredit what climatologists say, if it hurts THEIR (big oil) interests. Then their are conservatives with the ignorant, biased view that scientists are all a bunch liberal elites who think they are better than everyone else because they have PhDs and grad degrees.
What we REALLY need to investigate is; How the Hell did Big Oil get social/religious Conservatives to tie Big Oil interests to their religion? Why is it the person screaming about "life at ejaculation" is also the same person ranting; "LOL, it was a cool day today" as a proof of some trend?
I think a survey would show that all these people have a hatred for Unions. A disgust for compassion. A mistrust in science.
What would really CLEAR THIS UP, is to recognize that a "Social Conservative" in the US today, mostly fits the following 14 characteristics -- see if you can find Herman Cain, Newt, Romney or Santorum here -- heck, I'd be surprised if they don't nail at least 10 traits; The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism.
Yes, there are non-religious Conservatives who vote for Republicans who turn around and offer no economic plan but methods to charge pregnant teens for cross-vaginal ultrasounds that only cost $450 and of course, a 9 month waiting period on abortions -- because it's clever.
And there are Libertarians who think Free Markets manage themselves to perfection.
Conservatives do a lot more stupid stuff besides just disbelieving in scientific processes like Thermodynamics that conflict with their faith in tiny little angels.
... if you stop believing in Science, it will stop believing in you.
And then who will bring you presents on Christmas? Some guy flying around propelled by reindeers? Science already destroyed that preposterous affront to thermodynamics with a Dark Matter beam.
"Too many false positives, and it costs much less for the people who are already wealthy to make false claims than it does for private citizens to defend themselves against the false claims. This stinks to high heaven."
Well, it sounds like this is all FUBAR.
The Copyright Kings love it when a failed plan comes together.
When you learn that SOME of the information you built your assumptions on are wrong -- it's a good idea to CHECK the rest.
Those suicides at FoxConn amount to about 3 in 100,000. Since FoxConn has around 900,000 employees -- it seems like a lot, but it's less than the average in the US or China.
Being a worker in China sucks -- we can all admit that. It seems to me, however, that the "dorms" mean free room and board. So would NOT getting housing and a meal with the same pay be a bonus? We have to look at relative lifestyle between the average worker and the average FoxConn worker.
The reality is, of the big 4 -- FoxConn is the most sought after -- and guess what? Apple has been pushing for better conditions and a raise. Almost EVERY major electronics manufacturer uses Chinese labor -- but who pushed to handle dangerous chemicals more safely? Apple computer. In fact, they've been the biggest whistleblower.
Is IBM and Sony getting hammered in the press? We have to ask how everyone is incensed about iPads -- but no mention of other products. The press that reports this stuff is either IGNORING basic research which I can find out in 10 seconds -- or they are willfully ignoring the real issues. What's your excuse?
Sometimes you geeks miss the OBVIOUS solution; You start with friends on FaceBook, make them moderators. Digging in the right areas and getting the MOST dirt to the refuse pile in a given time gets the most points. People with consistently high points get the right to become moderators.
New users are logging in as members on a Google Blog set up for the RC project.
If I only need 50 people, then I can have a few grievers to kick -- but easily, I could stop adding new users once I had enough casual users to keep the RC digging going on 24 hours a day. I figure Japan or Korea would be great for the night crew!
>> You've all grown so cynical. It's still a world were a person can exploit others for free labor and expect not to get a penis-shaped pool.
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AS much as I'm a guy who is REALLY a promoter of higher wages -- I totally disagree with your statement that; 'Poaching employees isn't being a dick" -- because the ONLY reason you are calling that person is because someone else wanted them.
It DEFINES a dick move -- it is absolutely the dynamic of dating in high school. The cheerleader wants the Quarterback but Jessica with the large breasts gets him ONLY because she wants to beat Suzy. Steve (the Quarterback) ends up with herpes and a paternity suite.
It is disruptive to business. You didn't FIND that talent -- you are merely using a bunch of money you COULD be using on research and finding the next great talent, but you decided to poach that one Star Quarterback. It does absolutely NOTHING to raise the wages for the guy sweeping the floor and everything to turn a business into an athletic club of prima-donnas and pissed off underlings. Everyone on Slashdot imagines themselves the wonder kid -- but I'm a bit older and more of a realist to know that great minds are usually ignored unless being assessed by another great mind. Mediocrity thinks beige is genius!
Normally I'd agree with you -- but it would be like 10 dudes getting golden enemas and it would do nothing for the vast majority of hard working, non-pedigree, working stiffs.
Johnny Ive would have been traded like a Babe Ruth baseball card about 5 times.
I'm sure there are people who don't like Apple, Microsoft or Google for whatever reason. I'll admit that I don't like Microsoft for good reasons, Google because they ripped off the iPhone while in a confidential relationship, and I don't trust Apple because they have MoJo -- $600 Billion in fact; and it's just a fool who doesn't always hold suspicion of the biggest Capitalist because, well, that kind of defines a fool.
That said -- absolutely, yes! When you look at the poaching that INTEL and AMD engaged in, it was good for a FEW key employees, but it had nothing to do with merit -- it was internecine warfare. Scorched earth.
To say nothing of that wunderkind who got the attention -- how do you think employees would feel who knew; "Hey, Scotty just got hired by Google for $2 Million a year plus benefits!" Every company would be able to have the same story about a poached asset, and they would ALL Suffer. Eventually, a company that was NOT a poaching target would end up on top merely because nobody poached from them. And would you REALLY want a Blackberry Smart phone to rule them all? Oh Hell no.
That makes a lot of sense. For the Same reason, during WW II, the US got great minds like Einstein.
However, due the incessant prattle of race baiting fascists on Fox News, and they Xenophobia promoted by Dominionist religions, we are probably LOSING a lot of great minds to countries that aren't becoming a bunch of fascist pricks.
I was ready to bail on this country if McCain/Palin were chosen as our leaders -- and I might be ready to bail if the re-elected Obama is still a Republican door mat. By any measure, this country has been SECURED up the wazoo. We have a 40 year low in crime but the police forces around the country are still gathering up drones, body armor, and pepper spray as if they had to deal with some sort of siege war.
Before November of 2008 -- a lot of laws and banks seemed to be VERY READY for the problems ahead -- and it strikes me that things like the Patriot Act and NDAA bills are all about preparing for an expected problem that someone worked really hard to create. You know, like Scott Walker needing to fire teachers because he had an economic shortfall in his state, that was about a million dollars less than the money he gave away to corporations to reward them for being in the state.
Disaster capitalists are creating the justification for their austerity measures, and anyone who is truly insightful, is already aware of where this country is headed. Perhaps I'm not that smart -- because I'm still an American. How fucking sad is that?
The Iranians should be able to do 95% of a drone off the shelf.
However, their ability to add $5 Million in cost overruns for each drone might be hampered by an underdeveloped Corporate/Military Industrial Complex.
This is not really that surprising.
However, having had my debates with Global Warming Deniars, Pro Torture Advocates, People for the Protection of the Rich, and of course, the ever-present Citizens for Oil Company Profits who think that gas prices are about the free market -- I'm not so sure that ALL of this is SEO and Sock puppets.
Some people are just damn idiots putting sock puppets out of a job. There is something wrong with people who are morons for free.
Yeah, because ONLY terrorists scream and holler about their rights -- and GOOD CITIZENS capitulate.
What you've just described is a situation where the TSA security theater is merely there to make sure you bend over and say; "thank you sir."
Security doesn't have shit to do with people making jokes, or making a fuss. The guy who want's to mess you up will stay under the radar and be the most polite person up until the moment of truth.
In short, don't argue with the cop unless you're prepared for the consequences. -- Right, because we should all have consequences because we demand a Government and Security system that respects us.
I wonder if we don't need to offer J Edgar Hoover and apology.
I know we all THOUGHT he was keeping documents on everyone -- but who asked him to do it? Was he really running things, or was he pressured to track people by folks like McCarthy or Nixon?
With the prescience of 20/20 hindsight -- I have to wonder about the whole scandal of him dressing in women's undergarments -- because getting caught with some perverse act seems to be MORE of a threat to our CIA or Secret Service organizations than merely assassination, torture, or selling secrets about masses of US citizens to whomever wants to buy it (per the Wikipedia document dump showing just that).
I really -- really don't know. Just throwing it out there. Since 9/11 I've decided to re-check all the history I thought I knew and found that everything I knew was about 90% wrong. 10% truth these days must just be for the "flavor".
If Bing figures out that you LIKE Fox News, they never include results from Snopes.com, or anything that leans away from fairies and bean stalks towards reality.
The US Chamber of Commerce is a useful resource in the same way as Rush Limbaugh is a useful resource;
You know anyone in that club is all about fucking over the common man in the USA for the benefit of the sponsors.
The GOVERNMENT pays for the damn free riders.
And the GOVERNMENT pays for all those expensive drugs that get designed.
Drug companies pay for the cost of APPROVING A DRUG -- not inventing it. And in the real world they pay more for marketing, than getting a drug to market.
"The more you know..." the more pissed of you are going to be.
Only ethical doctors who look out for their patient's best interests need fear the insurance provider.
The ER is a CASH COW for many hospitals.
I remember having sliced off the end of my finger -- and I politely asked; How much is this going to cost me? Before entering. They really took offense and said; "we can't possibly tell you that, sir." I said; "You've done this before, I'm sure, so what's the average bill for someone who might get a couple stitches?" They told me I was free to walk.
I paid $600 out of pocket for some betadine and gauze -- and I won a bet with my friends that; I would not bleed to death and, the emergency room would be mostly useless.
If I had not paid that $600 or more -- the Government would pay it with tax dollars. IN fact the Government pays 52% of the cost of medicine. Obviously, nobody is trying to bargain for a better deal.
"we live in the best of all possible worlds..."
It's depressing that I don't live in this wonderful USA you keep talking about. If I were to take my kids to the "Emergency Room" because they haven't seen a doctor in over 2 years -- it's going to cost me $600 for a band-aide. This FREE stuff you talk about, only happens if you have no assets or income. Perhaps if I swap identities with a homeless person -- I can get this sort of FREE health care from 1st year medical students who just moved up from cadavers.
We wracked up over $20,000 in medical costs while I had a good job and "good" health insurance. I lost my job and it's been 2 years trying to beg to get Medicaid to kick in. There is a well designed chasm between welfare and all the "social services" you might THINK are available - and actually getting your life back together. AS soon as you make money or have assets -- you get it 100% deducted from your meager support.
So you can guarantee someone will lose their house before they get those FREE medical visits.
>> I would imagine that you don't live in the USA -- or at least have NEVER experience the WONDERS that are our Social Safety Net. It's fucking depressing and I'm sure you are a Libertarian.
Much as I hate Rush Limbaugh; he's been a huge Apple fan since he's been on the air (sorry to have known him that long).
Apple NEVER paid him a dime for decades -- I'm not sure if they are now or not. Having Steve Jobs and Al Gore on the board doesn't make this company a natural ally with Rush. Apple even pulled out of the US Chamber of Commerce because they said it was corrupt and not in line with their ethics. They've been really successful by NOT really acting like true capitalists. They don't feed the market the dreck it thinks it wants, but give it things it SHOULD want. When people are buying their stuff -- they don't start cutting corners like Dell and find cheaper components -- they find stronger carbon fiber and Gorilla Glass. They don't buy up the competition or other companies with hundreds of billions of cash -- they sit on it and use it to guarantee the supplies of components. Apple even pushed to raise wages and working standards at FoxConn YEARS before they got all the bad press. So they are huge Capitalists without really intending to be Capitalists. [Crap, that sounds like a PRO Apple Rant -- I'm just trying to find something strange they did that ended up being STUPID] Oh yeah; they sued Samsung for a knock-off tablet that was NEVER GOING TO SELL CRAP just on the principle of it.
>> Maybe the NEW Apple will be a lot more corporate, and put Rush ads on the menu -- hard to say. But Steve Jobs went after Google for betraying him with their phone and his feelings when it made no economic sense.
I think in this one case, someone would have to pay Rush NOT to gush about Apple products because he is, I'm sorry to say, an Apple disciple.
"Don't get me started on the use of non-deterministic circuits in safety-critical systems.'
Well, now that we know the hot button that will set you off -- we are all going to NOT push that particular button.
For some people, it's the lack of engineers who know how to do analysis, for others it's bible thumping douche bags.
We could test this ideology with Lab Rats -- but that might be stereotypical because someone is calling them rats merely because they have tails, hair, large teeth that continue to grow, squeek and were born from a mommy and daddy rat.
Broad Stereotypes should be expected when talking about a BROAD GROUP of people who self identify a certain way.
If Nazi Germany had conducted a survey, and it found that most Germans were angry, and would follow whatever leader made them feel less ashamed of past military defeats -- would that survey be bogus because it "broadly stereotyped Germans as angry"?
If something is screwed up in a country -- then maybe it's a large group of people who are MORE screwed up than the rest. Maybe everything isn't always equivalent and someone who pushes for civil rights and an end to slavery is perhaps more enlightened than someone who wants slavery to continue.
They have entire sermons in church talking about good and evil. And psychologists recognize "self destructive behavior." The only "shock here" is that the group of people less worried about Biblical sin, is perhaps the more mentally healthy group. It's not what social conservatives tell them self -- so it must not be true.
Religious/Social Conservatives will likely not believe anything they are told that is contrary to what the bible tells them. Conservatives who are big proponents of big oil are likely to not believe or will discredit what climatologists say, if it hurts THEIR (big oil) interests. Then their are conservatives with the ignorant, biased view that scientists are all a bunch liberal elites who think they are better than everyone else because they have PhDs and grad degrees.
What we REALLY need to investigate is;
How the Hell did Big Oil get social/religious Conservatives to tie Big Oil interests to their religion?
Why is it the person screaming about "life at ejaculation" is also the same person ranting; "LOL, it was a cool day today" as a proof of some trend?
I think a survey would show that all these people have a hatred for Unions. A disgust for compassion. A mistrust in science.
What would really CLEAR THIS UP, is to recognize that a "Social Conservative" in the US today, mostly fits the following 14 characteristics -- see if you can find Herman Cain, Newt, Romney or Santorum here -- heck, I'd be surprised if they don't nail at least 10 traits;
The 14 Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism.
Yes, there are non-religious Conservatives who vote for Republicans who turn around and offer no economic plan but methods to charge pregnant teens for cross-vaginal ultrasounds that only cost $450 and of course, a 9 month waiting period on abortions -- because it's clever.
And there are Libertarians who think Free Markets manage themselves to perfection.
Conservatives do a lot more stupid stuff besides just disbelieving in scientific processes like Thermodynamics that conflict with their faith in tiny little angels.
... if you stop believing in Science, it will stop believing in you.
And then who will bring you presents on Christmas? Some guy flying around propelled by reindeers? Science already destroyed that preposterous affront to thermodynamics with a Dark Matter beam.
"Too many false positives, and it costs much less for the people who are already wealthy to make false claims than it does for private citizens to defend themselves against the false claims. This stinks to high heaven."
Well, it sounds like this is all FUBAR.
The Copyright Kings love it when a failed plan comes together.
... am-i-right?
NOBODY on Slashdot could have predicted that this would be abused and misinterpreted.
I think the Post Office has the same PR issue. At one point, there were over a million employees, but the term "going postal" -- well, that stuck.
Statistics don't really impact people at a basic level.
When you learn that SOME of the information you built your assumptions on are wrong -- it's a good idea to CHECK the rest.
Those suicides at FoxConn amount to about 3 in 100,000. Since FoxConn has around 900,000 employees -- it seems like a lot, but it's less than the average in the US or China.
Being a worker in China sucks -- we can all admit that. It seems to me, however, that the "dorms" mean free room and board. So would NOT getting housing and a meal with the same pay be a bonus? We have to look at relative lifestyle between the average worker and the average FoxConn worker.
The reality is, of the big 4 -- FoxConn is the most sought after -- and guess what? Apple has been pushing for better conditions and a raise. Almost EVERY major electronics manufacturer uses Chinese labor -- but who pushed to handle dangerous chemicals more safely? Apple computer. In fact, they've been the biggest whistleblower.
Is IBM and Sony getting hammered in the press? We have to ask how everyone is incensed about iPads -- but no mention of other products. The press that reports this stuff is either IGNORING basic research which I can find out in 10 seconds -- or they are willfully ignoring the real issues. What's your excuse?
Sometimes you geeks miss the OBVIOUS solution;
You start with friends on FaceBook, make them moderators. Digging in the right areas and getting the MOST dirt to the refuse pile in a given time gets the most points. People with consistently high points get the right to become moderators.
New users are logging in as members on a Google Blog set up for the RC project.
If I only need 50 people, then I can have a few grievers to kick -- but easily, I could stop adding new users once I had enough casual users to keep the RC digging going on 24 hours a day. I figure Japan or Korea would be great for the night crew!
>> You've all grown so cynical. It's still a world were a person can exploit others for free labor and expect not to get a penis-shaped pool.