You had the viewpoint that because you had imagined Ford to be white
I'm stopping here. Imagined? You're either trolling, or fucking retarded. You saw pictures, you read the description. You deny the obvious? Fuck you, and your little dog too.
You must have been an awfully precocious 7-year-old if you understood just about anything about H2G2.
I wonder what that would do to a growing lad, expecting triple-breasted whores from Eroticon Six, and only ever managing to find the double-breasted kind... I hope he wasn't too scarred;-)
The "immensely funny" thing is curious. To be honest, completely honest... I didnt find douglas adams' work to be all that genuinely funny Interesting to read, and written with an easy style that said "come back and read more!" sure, but not funny. Not to me, personally, and not speaking for anyone else.
Awww, you're just grumpy because no one replaced the diodes down your left side yet...
I, Robot didn't suck. It just had absolutly nothing to do with the book. I bet your opinion of it would be a lot higher if they had stuck with the original title, "Hardwired".
Yes, our opinion would be different if they had refrained from RAPING ASIMOV'S CORPSE!
Then again, I haven't seen it, because of what Will Smith said on Leno: "It's very faithfull to the book [...] My character is the only man on earth who doesn't trust robots, everyone else does..." Yeah, that is the exact opposite of the book, jackass.
Asimov's estate should sue them for diffamation... if they weren't busy swimming in their giant cash-filled swimming pools from all the horrible crap they've sold labelled as "Asimov's...", that is.
Remeber when we had a mindless argument about whether or not Adams intended Ford Prefect to be white? I argued "duh", you said things that were stupid... and insisted on having proof come from the Book (that would be one of the things I pass judgement on as "idiotic", since the book is neither the First nor the Definitive version of the story) and I couldn't quote it because I'd misplaced it.
Well, it turns out it was behind the washer and dryer, for some reason. Anyway:
"He was not conspicuously tall, his features were striking but not conspicuously handsome.
His hair was wiry and gingerish and brushed back from the temples. His skin seemed to be pulled backwards from the nose"...
If you need to have the author specifically spell out "he was not black" on top of that for you to read it to mean he wasn't, then that's just sad. Then again, I suppose you were just trolling... seems more likely than "that dumb" ; )
So MY question to Robbie Stamp would be: "Why not cast Ford Prefect with an actor that looks like the description in the book, like the actor that played him in the TV series, and to sound like he did in the radio series? Is it to do with tokenism?"
Except that I don't expect studio execs to give straight awnsers.
I think the removal of the bit about the babblefish prooving the non existance of god was removed less for religious reasons and more for the fact that about 90% of the people seeing the film will hear "Zebra Crossing" and have no idea whats being talked about. Few areas in the US use full on zebra crossings. Most places use just 2 white bars to outline the path a walker is supposed to stay in.
First time I read it, I took it to mean he would be trampled by zebras...
Here are the main sections of the Texas state constitution. I can't find anything about requiring access to the entire internet if you provide access to some of the internet.
And to watch the watchers, the outcome may have already suggested a solution - some sort of peer reviews, his co-worker did find out his activity right?
I suggest watching the movie "Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind", to alleviate your delusions of ubiquitous ethics.
Private room, central air, cable, near perfect security, high speed internet, guaranteed meals (that are nutritious, even), little contact with that annoying Real World (tm)... Geek Heaven?
Private room? Try: Share it with Bubba. Getting raped, beaten, stabbed, verbally abused, having feces thrown at you, smeared on your bead...
It's not just the US, and not even just Christians. France recently censored an ad for "blasphemy," a Cardinal blasted The Da Vinci Code for not sticking to the Bible's story of Jesus, and the Muslim world is worse than any Christian-dominated country.
You make a good point, but... Well, a cardinal condmening a book, that's business as usual, the French ad was tasteless. As for the muslim countries... well, we're describing them by their dominating religion, that says it all, really.
But none of that would influence that movie. No one but the devout catholics listens to cardinals, the French censored an ad, but no one would complain about the babelfish-god joke there enough to affect a movie, and the muslims, well, I don't think it's possible to tell that story without pissing them off in one way or another, and I did say "industrialised nations", I don't remember them in the G summits, but I wasn't paying too much attention to those, I admit.
I think that censorship of movies based on fear of religious organisations (in the western world) is limited to the U.S. The rest of the world still has a few ignorant bible addicts running around, but they are mostly ignored, not feared.
If Douglas Adams were still alive, what do you believe would be his thoughts and opinion of the final version of the movie?
Do you really expect a studio exec to awnser ANYTHING but "he would have loved it; it is very faithfull; it respects the spirit of the book"?
He his contractually obligated to hype this movie, he will NOT tell you anything negative about it: His job depends on the sucess of this commercial product.
Douglas Adams said he wanted Marvin to look round and sleek, not like his TV series counter part. Today "sleek and cool" is an iPod with legs.
Makes perfect sense. "Your plastic pal who's fun to be with" ought to look like he's... made of plastic and... fun... to be with.
I never liked his look in the TV show, early 80's BBC cheeze fest aside. He sounds depressed, but he's supposed to look... appealing. It's a product that is well marketted, but badly made. Remember the commerical in the show? That other robot on the beach didn't look like something anyone would want to buy.
I like that change: It's a cosmetic upgrade that is actually closer to the spirit of the character.
In making the film, was it ever a consideration to create a film that will appeal to people who have never read the books or heard the radio broadcasts?
Duh!
[sarcasm] No, we figured, we'll make a multi-million dollar movie that will only appeal to a small number of geeks. That way, we get to loose a ton of cash, which, as you know, is the goal of all commercial enterprises. [/sarcasm]
Douglas Adams wrote multiple versions of the screenplay, including the one used in the movie.
No! Adams had finally written what he considered the final draft, then he died, and the studio rewrote the script. Most probably to undo all the compromises they had to grant the living Adams.
It was well over a year after his passing that Douglas' widow, Jane Adams, encouraged us to move forward with the film as Douglas undoubtedly would have wanted. Karey Kirkpatrick, who had written the hugely successful "Chicken Run",
was hired to complete the work Douglas had started on a film adaption of the book.
Get back to me when you have read a few hundred books, and maybe we can talk then....
Way ahead of you.
The link works fine for me. Play with it some.
Sigh, it's hosted on tripod, if someone clicks your link, they get this. However, once I manually copied the link, clicking it brings me to the correct location.
I ain't white. That threw a wrench into your little program, didn't it?
Nope, what you said is still crap. And now you just added the stupid notion of "only whites can be racist" on top of your "teehee, aborigenese look different... they must be less evolved" load of BS.
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You had the viewpoint that because you had imagined Ford to be white
I'm stopping here. Imagined? You're either trolling, or fucking retarded.
You saw pictures, you read the description. You deny the obvious? Fuck you, and your little dog too.
You must have been an awfully precocious 7-year-old if you understood just about anything about H2G2.
;-)
I wonder what that would do to a growing lad, expecting triple-breasted whores from Eroticon Six, and only ever managing to find the double-breasted kind... I hope he wasn't too scarred
Inconsistent? Well, it WAS written in a plural Z sector, what'd you expect?
diffamation - is that where you take something famous and change it?
I swear you could invent a new language from the typos on Slashdot.
Yeah: French.
I speak more than one language, and my typing sucks in all of them : )
The "immensely funny" thing is curious. To be honest, completely honest... I didnt find douglas adams' work to be all that genuinely funny
Interesting to read, and written with an easy style that said "come back and read more!" sure, but not funny.
Not to me, personally, and not speaking for anyone else.
Awww, you're just grumpy because no one replaced the diodes down your left side yet...
I, Robot didn't suck. It just had absolutly nothing to do with the book. I bet your opinion of it would be a lot higher if they had stuck with the original title, "Hardwired".
...", that is.
Yes, our opinion would be different if they had refrained from RAPING ASIMOV'S CORPSE!
Then again, I haven't seen it, because of what Will Smith said on Leno: "It's very faithfull to the book [...] My character is the only man on earth who doesn't trust robots, everyone else does..."
Yeah, that is the exact opposite of the book, jackass.
Asimov's estate should sue them for diffamation... if they weren't busy swimming in their giant cash-filled swimming pools from all the horrible crap they've sold labelled as "Asimov's
Remeber when we had a mindless argument about whether or not Adams intended Ford Prefect to be white?
I argued "duh", you said things that were stupid... and insisted on having proof come from the Book (that would be one of the things I pass judgement on as "idiotic", since the book is neither the First nor the Definitive version of the story) and I couldn't quote it because I'd misplaced it.
Well, it turns out it was behind the washer and dryer, for some reason. Anyway:If you need to have the author specifically spell out "he was not black" on top of that for you to read it to mean he wasn't, then that's just sad. Then again, I suppose you were just trolling... seems more likely than "that dumb" ; )
So MY question to Robbie Stamp would be: "Why not cast Ford Prefect with an actor that looks like the description in the book, like the actor that played him in the TV series, and to sound like he did in the radio series? Is it to do with tokenism?"
Except that I don't expect studio execs to give straight awnsers.
This might be insightful if Nintendo wasn't responsible for the [...], standard 'rumble' functions
Come again?
How will this affect sites like Google News and Fark?"
More boobies links!
Thanks, AP! : )
I think the removal of the bit about the babblefish prooving the non existance of god was removed less for religious reasons and more for the fact that about 90% of the people seeing the film will hear "Zebra Crossing" and have no idea whats being talked about.
Few areas in the US use full on zebra crossings. Most places use just 2 white bars to outline the path a walker is supposed to stay in.
First time I read it, I took it to mean he would be trampled by zebras...
It was even more nonsensical, but still funny : )
the pr0ns people still find ways to get the waving wangs through the filters.
Oh great, thanks a lot! Now I won't ever be able to look at filtered cofee the same again!
Here are the main sections of the Texas state constitution.
I can't find anything about requiring access to the entire internet if you provide access to some of the internet.
It's section 8.
Didn't look hard, did you?
I think the term "paedophile" should be reserved for those who are sexually attracted to people who are below the age of sexual maturity
35?
And to watch the watchers, the outcome may have already suggested a solution - some sort of peer reviews, his co-worker did find out his activity right?
I suggest watching the movie "Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind", to alleviate your delusions of ubiquitous ethics.
Private room, central air, cable, near perfect security, high speed internet, guaranteed meals (that are nutritious, even), little contact with that annoying Real World (tm)... Geek Heaven?
Private room? Try: Share it with Bubba.
Getting raped, beaten, stabbed, verbally abused, having feces thrown at you, smeared on your bead...
Sounds like fun?
The rest of the industrialised nations aren't overrun by christian fundamentalists like in the U.S.A. you know.
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It's not just the US, and not even just Christians. France recently censored an ad for "blasphemy," a Cardinal blasted The Da Vinci Code for not sticking to the Bible's story of Jesus, and the Muslim world is worse than any Christian-dominated country.
You make a good point, but... Well, a cardinal condmening a book, that's business as usual, the French ad was tasteless. As for the muslim countries... well, we're describing them by their dominating religion, that says it all, really.
But none of that would influence that movie. No one but the devout catholics listens to cardinals, the French censored an ad, but no one would complain about the babelfish-god joke there enough to affect a movie, and the muslims, well, I don't think it's possible to tell that story without pissing them off in one way or another, and I did say "industrialised nations", I don't remember them in the G summits, but I wasn't paying too much attention to those, I admit.
I think that censorship of movies based on fear of religious organisations (in the western world) is limited to the U.S.
The rest of the world still has a few ignorant bible addicts running around, but they are mostly ignored, not feared.
If Douglas Adams were still alive, what do you believe would be his thoughts and opinion of the final version of the movie?
Do you really expect a studio exec to awnser ANYTHING but "he would have loved it; it is very faithfull; it respects the spirit of the book"?
He his contractually obligated to hype this movie, he will NOT tell you anything negative about it: His job depends on the sucess of this commercial product.
In the current politically correct world
Speaking of political sensitivity, I see that you're using the word "world" to mean "the United States of America".
The rest of the industrialised nations aren't overrun by christian fundamentalists like in the U.S.A. you know.
Douglas Adams said he wanted Marvin to look round and sleek, not like his TV series counter part. Today "sleek and cool" is an iPod with legs.
Makes perfect sense. "Your plastic pal who's fun to be with" ought to look like he's... made of plastic and... fun... to be with.
I never liked his look in the TV show, early 80's BBC cheeze fest aside. He sounds depressed, but he's supposed to look... appealing. It's a product that is well marketted, but badly made. Remember the commerical in the show? That other robot on the beach didn't look like something anyone would want to buy.
I like that change: It's a cosmetic upgrade that is actually closer to the spirit of the character.
[sarcasm]
No, we figured, we'll make a multi-million dollar movie that will only appeal to a small number of geeks. That way, we get to loose a ton of cash, which, as you know, is the goal of all commercial enterprises.
[/sarcasm]
No!
Adams had finally written what he considered the final draft, then he died, and the studio rewrote the script. Most probably to undo all the compromises they had to grant the living Adams.
Here, read how the CEO of the studio spins it:
Who watches the watchers watching the watchers?
Mall security, apparently...
And you, and I'm watching you watching them watching us... ad infinitum.
They can build the Alan Parsons Project.
I thought that was some kind of hovercraft...
Get back to me when you have read a few hundred books, and maybe we can talk then....
Way ahead of you.
The link works fine for me. Play with it some.
Sigh, it's hosted on tripod, if someone clicks your link, they get this. However, once I manually copied the link, clicking it brings me to the correct location.
I ain't white. That threw a wrench into your little program, didn't it?
Nope, what you said is still crap. And now you just added the stupid notion of "only whites can be racist" on top of your "teehee, aborigenese look different... they must be less evolved" load of BS.