I can't think of any films where the trailer added sounds from outside the film's sound mix just for the trailer.
How often do you pay attention to sounds in trailers and cross-reference them with the actual movie afterwards?
I've never done that before, but I remember that the Inspector Gadget trailers had scenes that weren't actually in the movie itself. Man, that was a bad movie!
I doubt that the suits would have been eager to try something as experimental as taking out sound from space battles.
Experimental? Been done in Firefly, been done in SW:epII! AND in 2001: A Space Odyssy (yes, I count a waldo bashing a guy in a suit as a space battle, shaddap;-).
And as someone else has pointed out, most of the "space" battles in the trailer appear to be in high atmo. Plus, another poster said something wishfull about a combat system that includes sounds:
I'd like to point out that if you listen to AM radio while watching a distant thunderstorm, you'll hear the lightning's electromagnetic interference through your speakers at the same time as you see the flash. Space battles would make a "sound" if there is something to take the huge EM noise and transform it into air vibration, like, say, a metal box that could resonnate... I dunno, like, a spaceship... possibly one with a comm system...
I was about to suggest that you just watch the first 10 or 15 minutes (not counting commercials) and then decide if it's worth watching the rest of the hour, but since the obituary for the series has already been posted perhaps it's just as well not to bother.
Well, you seem to have really enjoyed it... I won't take any extraordinary steps to watch it, but if I ever have the chace to, I'll think of you and give it a chance. Maybe if I'm drunk it'll be allright;-)
Suspecting (without seeing the show) that, because the uniform nickname had the same color as Nazi brownshirts it is therefore laden with meaning, is pretty absurd.
Every thread will have someone invoke Godwin. He should have been modded down as troll, not up as insightfull. Would have saved us all a great deal of pointless replies.
River - which any Firefly can tell you is not a damsel in distress. She can take care of herself just fine actually.
Actually, no she can't. She's insane and needs constant medical attention supervision so that she will not harm herself or others.
Her brother threw away all he had to save this damsel. The fact that she's a psychic supersoldier in potentia doesn't make her any less vulnarable in the state she was in through the first episodes.
I have to take issue with this statement though - this vision of the future is hardly unique.
I'm sorry, how many other visions of a future where an sino-anglo alliance dominates a vast federation of terraformed planets following the destruction of the earth are there?
I remember being all excited about the TV show, but when I saw the premier episode, it was a yawn fest.
I will never forgive Fox for that.
A whole summer of ads ending with "...and a girl in a box", first ep shown: No girl in a box.
The Train Job was the weakest of the 14 episodes, it was written in weeked to satisfy the Fox overlord who demanded a first ep. with "more action". They destroyed that show on purpose, or they are all grossly incompetant, either way, I hate them nearly as much as I hate Rick Berman.
Buffy techniques were: being superhumanly strong and fast.
What River does is superhumanly precise, using normal human muscles.
BTW, the girl playing River has a background in dance, the character River has a background in dance, and that choregraphy looks to me like the moves of a dancer hurting people, not a preternatural demon-like vampire slayer laying the smackdown.
Have you never seen a movie trailer? Other questions you might have asked: Why are things not happening in the same chronological sequence as they will in the movie? Why is it so short? Why is there catchy music tht won't end up in the movie?
Because: It's an advertisement, not the movie itself.
You think that silent shots of spacecrafts make Joe Sixpack want to shell out good money for movie tickets? They don't.
"Unjust" is a subjective term. I'm a fan of a just society as most folks are, and so interested to understand the depth of injustice suffered by the group putting on the show. But a botched delivery by the powers that be of a new series, leading to low ratings is not unjust. It is just a screwup it would seem.
How about airing it, say, 3 times in a row at the time advertised, would that have been "just"?
Because I think airing it at ungodly hours such as "12:07am" and "12:14am" or "not at all" when they advertise it at 8pm and THEN declaring "due to low rating we'll cancel it" quite unjust.
"Stop hitting yourself", the bully says, and you watch, thinking "yeah, that's a fair statement".
So what you're saying is that you haven't actually seen it but you've already got an opinion about it that's set in stone? I'd rather not post any spoilers so just let me say that you really ought to watch it first and then decide how you feel about it.
I saw the preview and read the synopsis. I knew the Show called "Enterprise" would suck before it came out, I knew as soon as it was announced. I knew because Rick Berman explained what kind of show he thought Star Trek should be in an interview in 1991 and I've seen him work his toward the apotheosis of his vision for a decade, and it was incrementally suckier and suckier. Why? Because what he wanted to make was not Star Trek, he want to milk the cash cow (his words) and he's used focus groups of trekkies to figure out the workings of the golden goose (his words).
I can see how rehashing the TOS mirror universe is appealing. They did that with DS9 and the people who didn't think DS9 was a huge piece of shit swallowed it up, I even watched a few of those eps... sadomasochist evil parralel universe lesbians are indeed fun to watch, but it was T&A, not good storytelling. I know I won't like it, even if there are genuine moments of goodness speckled in there, I know because I have systematically not liked what Berman has been spewing for years, so unless he's been replaced by his mirror universe counterpart, the trend will go unbroken.
It's not one of those "It'll suck" comment, it's an "it will KEEP ON sucking" comment. Lack of delusional enthousiasm, not ignorant prejudice. You don't know me, so it's normal for you to judge me and my reasons without knowing all the facts, but trust me, if I do like it, I will be EXTREMELY surprised.
Maybe someday I'll watch it, in the mean time, I'd rather not set myself up for frustration and disapointment, again.
I'm specifically referring, BTW, to the episode "In a mirror, darkly: Part 1". No guarantees that part 2 won't fall back on polarity reversed time-traveling space nazi worm hole transporter buffer overflows to resolve everything, but part 1 was a glimpse of what could have been.
This is what I mean, you've enjoyed part one and are full of expectant positivism. I am waiting for reviews of part one and two before I submit myself to another viewing of Enterprise. A glimpse... but, by now you've been conditioned to accept something quite low on the scale of tolerability. Is it acutally "good", or does it seem that way because it sucks less?
Did you by chance see last Friday night's Enterprise?
I've never managed to ge through an entire episode, after a few minutes of something so depressingl horrible, I turn off the TV or go watch some news channel to cleanse my mind with images of real world atrocities, to show me that there are worse things than destroying a beloved series.
I've seen the ad, I don't think I'd like it. Much like DS9's best episode relied on using a lot of footage from a good episode from a better series, I think this too is only rehasing some fun TOS episode, and it's exactly good, it's only reminescent of something better.
He isn't. He's still working on his next perversion of Star Trek: Another [crappy] movie, another prequel no less. I wonder how big a clue stick would need to be for his masters to understand that HE's what's wrong with the franchise.
Does anyone know if this mean they will also have region-less DVDs in France now?
Because as it is French movies coming out in Region1 format are realeased for the U.S. market (don't they know you guys hate them with a nationalistic brand of racism? Silly French), so French Canadians get shafted.
I hate region coding, I want japanese, hong kong, australian, french, british and american movies and tv shows, and I don't want to be forced to have the bastardised Disney version! Damn cartels... why does the MPAA hate freedom?
The difference between Microsoft and Apple's interface philosophy (I think): 1. Apple makes it easy for the user to do complicated things. 2. Microsoft tries to automatically do complicated things for the user.
Apple's people work hard so you won't have to.
Microsoft makes you work hard where you shouldn't have to.
Question: In XP, how do you get rid of the huge blue (or file tree) "links" section of all of their windows? I was trying to view all of my pictures' icons for a university project in one window so I could know their exotic names when importing them, and it WOULD have fitted all in one handy window, if a whole third of it hadn't been wasted by their blue bar.
When I came home, it took me 2 seconds to learn to do the same in my OSX finder windows. Whereas me, the people at the stations around me, and 2 successive computer lab technicians never did find out how to do this simple thing in winXP.
Why are the drug policy so bad? Do a recursive "Why are [insert indiotic policy] bad?", the awnser is: Special interest groups subvert the demographic process through bribes and threats.
Might makes right, money is power. Until the revolution comes, get used to it.
# People who want to see Will Smith kicking robot ass will go to see it whatever you bloody call it. # People who love the work of Asimov will realise it is a perversion of all he stood for just by looking at the poster.
So, why bother licensing the book? What possible use did they get for their money? Hell, if it had refrained from the corpse-raping I might have even gone to see it myself.
I would have gone to see Hardwired. I didn't go see that... thing they called "I Robot".
The reason for the name change is quite stupid: They realised they were sitting on the option for the Asimov books and that it was about to expire, and whaddayaknow, there's this robot movie they're making anyway... sigh.
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I can't think of any films where the trailer added sounds from outside the film's sound mix just for the trailer.
;-).
How often do you pay attention to sounds in trailers and cross-reference them with the actual movie afterwards?
I've never done that before, but I remember that the Inspector Gadget trailers had scenes that weren't actually in the movie itself.
Man, that was a bad movie!
I doubt that the suits would have been eager to try something as experimental as taking out sound from space battles.
Experimental?
Been done in Firefly, been done in SW:epII! AND in 2001: A Space Odyssy (yes, I count a waldo bashing a guy in a suit as a space battle, shaddap
And as someone else has pointed out, most of the "space" battles in the trailer appear to be in high atmo.
Plus, another poster said something wishfull about a combat system that includes sounds:
I'd like to point out that if you listen to AM radio while watching a distant thunderstorm, you'll hear the lightning's electromagnetic interference through your speakers at the same time as you see the flash. Space battles would make a "sound" if there is something to take the huge EM noise and transform it into air vibration, like, say, a metal box that could resonnate... I dunno, like, a spaceship... possibly one with a comm system...
: )
Serenity in 156 days and counting...
I was about to suggest that you just watch the first 10 or 15 minutes (not counting commercials) and then decide if it's worth watching the rest of the hour, but since the obituary for the series has already been posted perhaps it's just as well not to bother.
;-)
Well, you seem to have really enjoyed it...
I won't take any extraordinary steps to watch it, but if I ever have the chace to, I'll think of you and give it a chance. Maybe if I'm drunk it'll be allright
Suspecting (without seeing the show) that, because the uniform nickname had the same color as Nazi brownshirts it is therefore laden with meaning, is pretty absurd.
Every thread will have someone invoke Godwin.
He should have been modded down as troll, not up as insightfull. Would have saved us all a great deal of pointless replies.
River - which any Firefly can tell you is not a damsel in distress. She can take care of herself just fine actually.
Actually, no she can't. She's insane and needs constant medical attention supervision so that she will not harm herself or others.
Her brother threw away all he had to save this damsel.
The fact that she's a psychic supersoldier in potentia doesn't make her any less vulnarable in the state she was in through the first episodes.
I have to take issue with this statement though - this vision of the future is hardly unique.
I'm sorry, how many other visions of a future where an sino-anglo alliance dominates a vast federation of terraformed planets following the destruction of the earth are there?
I remember being all excited about the TV show, but when I saw the premier episode, it was a yawn fest.
I will never forgive Fox for that.
A whole summer of ads ending with "...and a girl in a box", first ep shown: No girl in a box.
The Train Job was the weakest of the 14 episodes, it was written in weeked to satisfy the Fox overlord who demanded a first ep. with "more action". They destroyed that show on purpose, or they are all grossly incompetant, either way, I hate them nearly as much as I hate Rick Berman.
young-girl-fighting-people-using-Buffy-techniques
Buffy techniques were: being superhumanly strong and fast.
What River does is superhumanly precise, using normal human muscles.
BTW, the girl playing River has a background in dance, the character River has a background in dance, and that choregraphy looks to me like the moves of a dancer hurting people, not a preternatural demon-like vampire slayer laying the smackdown.
Why is there suddenly sounds in space?!?
Have you never seen a movie trailer?
Other questions you might have asked: Why are things not happening in the same chronological sequence as they will in the movie? Why is it so short? Why is there catchy music tht won't end up in the movie?
Because: It's an advertisement, not the movie itself.
You think that silent shots of spacecrafts make Joe Sixpack want to shell out good money for movie tickets? They don't.
"Unjust" is a subjective term. I'm a fan of a just society as most folks are, and so interested to understand the depth of injustice suffered by the group putting on the show.
But a botched delivery by the powers that be of a new series, leading to low ratings is not unjust. It is just a screwup it would seem.
How about airing it, say, 3 times in a row at the time advertised, would that have been "just"?
Because I think airing it at ungodly hours such as "12:07am" and "12:14am" or "not at all" when they advertise it at 8pm and THEN declaring "due to low rating we'll cancel it" quite unjust.
"Stop hitting yourself", the bully says, and you watch, thinking "yeah, that's a fair statement".
So what you're saying is that you haven't actually seen it but you've already got an opinion about it that's set in stone? I'd rather not post any spoilers so just let me say that you really ought to watch it first and then decide how you feel about it.
I saw the preview and read the synopsis.
I knew the Show called "Enterprise" would suck before it came out, I knew as soon as it was announced. I knew because Rick Berman explained what kind of show he thought Star Trek should be in an interview in 1991 and I've seen him work his toward the apotheosis of his vision for a decade, and it was incrementally suckier and suckier. Why? Because what he wanted to make was not Star Trek, he want to milk the cash cow (his words) and he's used focus groups of trekkies to figure out the workings of the golden goose (his words).
I can see how rehashing the TOS mirror universe is appealing. They did that with DS9 and the people who didn't think DS9 was a huge piece of shit swallowed it up, I even watched a few of those eps... sadomasochist evil parralel universe lesbians are indeed fun to watch, but it was T&A, not good storytelling. I know I won't like it, even if there are genuine moments of goodness speckled in there, I know because I have systematically not liked what Berman has been spewing for years, so unless he's been replaced by his mirror universe counterpart, the trend will go unbroken.
It's not one of those "It'll suck" comment, it's an "it will KEEP ON sucking" comment. Lack of delusional enthousiasm, not ignorant prejudice.
You don't know me, so it's normal for you to judge me and my reasons without knowing all the facts, but trust me, if I do like it, I will be EXTREMELY surprised.
Maybe someday I'll watch it, in the mean time, I'd rather not set myself up for frustration and disapointment, again.
I'm specifically referring, BTW, to the episode "In a mirror, darkly: Part 1". No guarantees that part 2 won't fall back on polarity reversed time-traveling space nazi worm hole transporter buffer overflows to resolve everything, but part 1 was a glimpse of what could have been.
This is what I mean, you've enjoyed part one and are full of expectant positivism.
I am waiting for reviews of part one and two before I submit myself to another viewing of Enterprise.
A glimpse... but, by now you've been conditioned to accept something quite low on the scale of tolerability. Is it acutally "good", or does it seem that way because it sucks less?
Did you by chance see last Friday night's Enterprise?
I've never managed to ge through an entire episode, after a few minutes of something so depressingl horrible, I turn off the TV or go watch some news channel to cleanse my mind with images of real world atrocities, to show me that there are worse things than destroying a beloved series.
I've seen the ad, I don't think I'd like it.
Much like DS9's best episode relied on using a lot of footage from a good episode from a better series, I think this too is only rehasing some fun TOS episode, and it's exactly good, it's only reminescent of something better.
I hear Rick Berman is available.
He isn't.
He's still working on his next perversion of Star Trek: Another [crappy] movie, another prequel no less. I wonder how big a clue stick would need to be for his masters to understand that HE's what's wrong with the franchise.
Does anyone know if this mean they will also have region-less DVDs in France now?
Because as it is French movies coming out in Region1 format are realeased for the U.S. market (don't they know you guys hate them with a nationalistic brand of racism? Silly French), so French Canadians get shafted.
I hate region coding, I want japanese, hong kong, australian, french, british and american movies and tv shows, and I don't want to be forced to have the bastardised Disney version!
Damn cartels... why does the MPAA hate freedom?
Q: Why did the French give us the Statue of Liberty instead of putting it up in Paris?
They have the original scale model in Paris.
It's the size of an ordinary statue, but it's exactly the same otherwise.
Streaming video still buffering...
we loose the skill to do it manually. the same is said about calculators, and power saws.
;-)
Actually, with power saws, it's fingers
I guess the average corporate employee is either dim-witted, computer illiterate, or a poor organizer.
;-)
Man, I wish I worked where you are. 'round here it's not "or", it's "and"
The difference between Microsoft and Apple's interface philosophy (I think):
1. Apple makes it easy for the user to do complicated things.
2. Microsoft tries to automatically do complicated things for the user.
Apple's people work hard so you won't have to.
Microsoft makes you work hard where you shouldn't have to.
Question: In XP, how do you get rid of the huge blue (or file tree) "links" section of all of their windows?
I was trying to view all of my pictures' icons for a university project in one window so I could know their exotic names when importing them, and it WOULD have fitted all in one handy window, if a whole third of it hadn't been wasted by their blue bar.
When I came home, it took me 2 seconds to learn to do the same in my OSX finder windows. Whereas me, the people at the stations around me, and 2 successive computer lab technicians never did find out how to do this simple thing in winXP.
In fact get rid of modal windows in general
If that's not the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. Modal dialogs and windows are an important tool.
Here's something more ignorant: I actually have no idea what the hell you two are talking about : (
Sorry to be a stickler, but c'mon, democratic isn't that hard to get right
I blame the full moon : )
What makes you so certain the system will be any different after the revolution?
;-)
Dementia?
That's why. And it's not new.
Why are the drug policy so bad?
Do a recursive "Why are [insert indiotic policy] bad?", the awnser is: Special interest groups subvert the demographic process through bribes and threats.
Might makes right, money is power.
Until the revolution comes, get used to it.
# People who want to see Will Smith kicking robot ass will go to see it whatever you bloody call it.
# People who love the work of Asimov will realise it is a perversion of all he stood for just by looking at the poster.
So, why bother licensing the book? What possible use did they get for their money?
Hell, if it had refrained from the corpse-raping I might have even gone to see it myself.
I would have gone to see Hardwired. I didn't go see that... thing they called "I Robot".
The reason for the name change is quite stupid: They realised they were sitting on the option for the Asimov books and that it was about to expire, and whaddayaknow, there's this robot movie they're making anyway... sigh.