I had that game and I thought it was dope. strange. I hated it sure, but I couldnt put it down.
Ah yes, the "fall in a hole" game, where you get out of a spaceship, and fall in a hole. Try again, fall in another hole. Again, that first hole, damn, thought I was far enough away. Again, DAMN THAT HOLE! Again, WHY DO YOU MOCK ME! Stupid hole-filled game. Again, sanity fading away, holes making impression in psyche...
I've been trying to figure out why I didn't like about it [...] The dialog didn't grab me [...] I absolutely despise damn near every western ever made.
Well, you awnsered your own question.
You hate westerns, its a space-western. Joss wanted to capture the western feel, the frontier, the adventure, all those things you hate, and make a sci-fi show with that frontiering feel.
At least you are honest about why you didn't like it, both to yourself and to others.
All I can say is that, had you managed to move past your misgivings, you would have been watching the best show to come on TV for years, possibly decades, maybe ever.
I recommend the episodes "Out of Gas", "Ariel" and "Objects in space" (in that order), the more scifiish / least westernish of the first run.
You'll still have the clothes and lingo gritting your sensibilities, but the themes aren't about cowboy issues: No cows, no corals, no horses, just good ol' sci-fi at its best.
spaceships landing in the wild west and being met with men on horses. It was an inconsistent and totally implausible view of the future.
How so?
We have supersonic planes, and people travelling on donkeys right now.
I have personally been on a jet plane and then met people who were actually travelling on horseback soon after: They were vacheros in Mexico (cowboys) bringing their cattle to a corrida.
By your logic, this is impossible, because if people can use a plane or an helicopter, then they will not plausibly choose to use horses instead. Well, you know what? Only horse could have taken them the way they went, uneven terrain, over hills and through streams and jungle (They were taking those cows to a small fishing village, deep in the middle of nowhere). The horses find their own fuel on the way, snaking on plants, driking water. No modern vehicle would have done...none that mexicans in the cattle-care buisness could afford.
So yeah, in the future, just like today, people from rich countries (planets) will use high-tech vehicles (jet plane/jet-engine equipped spaceship) to go meet people in poor countries (planets) who can only afford low-tech, self-replicating, biodegradable, edible, semi-autonomous self-refuling transportation.
I wish my car could go fuel up by itself...then again, it runs much faster.
The good people working on Firefly actually researched that a bit, and found arguments both for and against the need for an atmosphere for a gun to work, IIRC, and found that the balance did tip on the side of "no", but went with it anyways because: Your point about temperature, the fact that no one ever tried, and it might. But mostly because it was Jane that did it, and Jane doesn't know about nitrogen and oxidizers. What he knows is that a gun is a fire arm, and that fire needs air.
Jane isn't book smart, but he's clever. Its what Jane would do.
Convince me I'm wrong. Give me a freaking quote from the book.
Fanboy! I told I wasn't going to argue.
I'm not wading through that giant brick looking for a quote so I can win some pointless argument with a fanatic Tolkien addict.
You say its not in there? Fine, you're the one who memorised everypage, you must be right, whatever.
Go go post some more about how the movie sucked, since you are the only bearer of the True Meaing Of Tolkien. How dare these Kiwis popularise your bible? Who are they to show the unitiated the deeper secrets of the inner sactum of Minas Tirith! For shame!
I'm sure I'm probably alone in saying this, but......I didn't think it was all that good.
You're right, it wasn't all that good.
It was mostly mind-bendingly great, insanely witty, well done, clever, intelligent, scary, touching, funny, and engrossing, but it wasn't allthat good.
The first episode they aired (The Train Job), was the worst of the bunch. Why they would choose to use that instead of the awsome pilot to introduce us to the show, especially after hyping the "girl in a box" the entire summer... than can only be explained with profound stupidity, or deep-rooted evil. Take your pick.
But you shouldn't have been modded troll. Sheesh People, learn to accept some criticism! If you disagree with someone reply to them, don't downmod.But you shouldn't have been modded troll. Sheesh People, learn to accept some criticism!
He was rightly modded troll, he should not have been modded funny (what part was funny exactly?), and you should learn not to feed the trolls.
On the Internet, a troll is a person who posts messages that create controversy or an angry response without adding content to the discussion, often intentionally. Though technically different from flaming, which is an unmistakable direct personal attack, trolls often resort to innuendo or misdirection in the pursuit of their objective, which is to create controversy for its own sake, discredit those with whom they disagree, or sabotage discussion by creating an intimidating atmosphere.
What he did was not criticism, it was flaming. He added nothing to the discussion, he only attacked.
Putting the word "show" in quotation mark? Calling it juvenile (with no supporting evidence), calling it bad, and then comparing it to the bottom of the barrel (Andromeda) and claiming it is its inferior...that is trolling.
He said nothing constructive, nothing informative, nothing even to back up his claims, he only talked shit about the conversation topic in order to get people to reply to him. You did, you shouldn't have.
If you disagree with someone reply to them, don't downmod.
Look newb, set your filter to -1, and look at all the crap people with WAY to much time on their hand use to pollute this site, modding down is a necessity. Trolls willingly post things that people will rightly disagree with to get some attention. Attention is given by replying. I'll give you advice that works on/. and near bridges:
Anyway, my original point; bringing back a series after it's been cancelled is unnatural [..] Bring it back because it has promise sounds a hell of a lot better.
Ok then:
It was cancelled after airing just long enough to show it had promise, and airing on randomly alternating friday nights at a random time slot, out of order, by showing the pilot LAST, and its still had "ok" ratings!
If your ratings aren't incredible, it might be because you aired the show at 12:20am when you in fact advertised it would be on at 8pm, and not because the show is bad.
That show didn't have a chance. It had more than promised: It proved itself right away, and was cancelled right away.
Listen, fan boy, I read the 6 books in one big book a while back, I remember wildmen, I remeber them getting duped by Saruman to be on his sidem, and then they swittched sides.
I'm not going to argue with the fanatical about it though, I'm sure you remember that huge thing better than me, I'm not the one naming myself after hobbits.
The boxed sets don't mention the word "season". The fisrt box has 13 episodes, and the second has 19. They are called "volumes", and not a one flying brain, and unless I had a stroke for those 24 minutes, and it was the kind of stroke that makes you unable to find an episode when you look through the discs afterwards, no garbage comet either.
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I had that game and I thought it was dope. strange. I hated it sure, but I couldnt put it down.
Ah yes, the "fall in a hole" game, where you get out of a spaceship, and fall in a hole.
Try again, fall in another hole.
Again, that first hole, damn, thought I was far enough away.
Again, DAMN THAT HOLE!
Again, WHY DO YOU MOCK ME! Stupid hole-filled game.
Again, sanity fading away, holes making impression in psyche...
And so on.
holes...
I've been trying to figure out why I didn't like about it [...] The dialog didn't grab me [...] I absolutely despise damn near every western ever made.
Well, you awnsered your own question.
You hate westerns, its a space-western. Joss wanted to capture the western feel, the frontier, the adventure, all those things you hate, and make a sci-fi show with that frontiering feel.
At least you are honest about why you didn't like it, both to yourself and to others.
All I can say is that, had you managed to move past your misgivings, you would have been watching the best show to come on TV for years, possibly decades, maybe ever.
I recommend the episodes "Out of Gas", "Ariel" and "Objects in space" (in that order), the more scifiish / least westernish of the first run.
You'll still have the clothes and lingo gritting your sensibilities, but the themes aren't about cowboy issues: No cows, no corals, no horses, just good ol' sci-fi at its best.
I just hope the game is as good as the movie...
That's like hoping a sex scene on prime-time tv is as good as sex...
Pointless and deluded.
I guess you're still in denial about the whole thing, I can empathise.
where's the pasty white geek of a main character
There?
Ed Norton is no wimp.
spaceships landing in the wild west and being met with men on horses. It was an inconsistent and totally implausible view of the future.
How so?
We have supersonic planes, and people travelling on donkeys right now.
I have personally been on a jet plane and then met people who were actually travelling on horseback soon after: They were vacheros in Mexico (cowboys) bringing their cattle to a corrida.
By your logic, this is impossible, because if people can use a plane or an helicopter, then they will not plausibly choose to use horses instead.
Well, you know what? Only horse could have taken them the way they went, uneven terrain, over hills and through streams and jungle (They were taking those cows to a small fishing village, deep in the middle of nowhere). The horses find their own fuel on the way, snaking on plants, driking water. No modern vehicle would have done...none that mexicans in the cattle-care buisness could afford.
So yeah, in the future, just like today, people from rich countries (planets) will use high-tech vehicles (jet plane/jet-engine equipped spaceship) to go meet people in poor countries (planets) who can only afford low-tech, self-replicating, biodegradable, edible, semi-autonomous self-refuling transportation.
I wish my car could go fuel up by itself...then again, it runs much faster.
The good people working on Firefly actually researched that a bit, and found arguments both for and against the need for an atmosphere for a gun to work, IIRC, and found that the balance did tip on the side of "no", but went with it anyways because: Your point about temperature, the fact that no one ever tried, and it might.
But mostly because it was Jane that did it, and Jane doesn't know about nitrogen and oxidizers.
What he knows is that a gun is a fire arm, and that fire needs air.
Jane isn't book smart, but he's clever. Its what Jane would do.
The parent complained that "Everybody Loves Raymond" is belittling to men, and it gets marked Flamebait? How? Why?
Woman with mod point?
Convince me I'm wrong. Give me a freaking quote from the book.
Fanboy! I told I wasn't going to argue.
I'm not wading through that giant brick looking for a quote so I can win some pointless argument with a fanatic Tolkien addict.
You say its not in there? Fine, you're the one who memorised everypage, you must be right, whatever.
Go go post some more about how the movie sucked, since you are the only bearer of the True Meaing Of Tolkien. How dare these Kiwis popularise your bible? Who are they to show the unitiated the deeper secrets of the inner sactum of Minas Tirith! For shame!
And so forth...
shoots the guy, picks up his body and throws it out the rear cargo entrance so they can take off.
...
that's actually at the front of the ship, the big door opens under the "bridge".
7. Soft title music that gets stuck in your head and won't let go.
9. You can't take the sky from me...
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I'm sure I'm probably alone in saying this, but......I didn't think it was all that good.
You're right, it wasn't all that good.
It was mostly mind-bendingly great, insanely witty, well done, clever, intelligent, scary, touching, funny, and engrossing, but it wasn't all that good.
The first episode they aired (The Train Job), was the worst of the bunch. Why they would choose to use that instead of the awsome pilot to introduce us to the show, especially after hyping the "girl in a box" the entire summer... than can only be explained with profound stupidity, or deep-rooted evil. Take your pick.
He was rightly modded troll, he should not have been modded funny (what part was funny exactly?), and you should learn not to feed the trolls.
What he did was not criticism, it was flaming.
He added nothing to the discussion, he only attacked.
Putting the word "show" in quotation mark? Calling it juvenile (with no supporting evidence), calling it bad, and then comparing it to the bottom of the barrel (Andromeda) and claiming it is its inferior...that is trolling.
He said nothing constructive, nothing informative, nothing even to back up his claims, he only talked shit about the conversation topic in order to get people to reply to him. You did, you shouldn't have.
If you disagree with someone reply to them, don't downmod.
Look newb, set your filter to -1, and look at all the crap people with WAY to much time on their hand use to pollute this site, modding down is a necessity.
Trolls willingly post things that people will rightly disagree with to get some attention. Attention is given by replying. I'll give you advice that works on
Do not feed the trolls.
Anyway, my original point; bringing back a series after it's been cancelled is unnatural [..] Bring it back because it has promise sounds a hell of a lot better.
Ok then:
It was cancelled after airing just long enough to show it had promise, and airing on randomly alternating friday nights at a random time slot, out of order, by showing the pilot LAST, and its still had "ok" ratings!
If your ratings aren't incredible, it might be because you aired the show at 12:20am when you in fact advertised it would be on at 8pm, and not because the show is bad.
That show didn't have a chance. It had more than promised: It proved itself right away, and was cancelled right away.
Listen, fan boy, I read the 6 books in one big book a while back, I remember wildmen, I remeber them getting duped by Saruman to be on his sidem, and then they swittched sides.
I'm not going to argue with the fanatical about it though, I'm sure you remember that huge thing better than me, I'm not the one naming myself after hobbits.
Which wildmen?
The ones that were fighting for Saruman in Two Towers.
The ones that switch side in Return, the heros take a shortcut through their woods, get ambushed, convince them to come fight against Sauron.
But the MAJOR change no one talks about is the Army of the Dead!
No, the major change is the absence of wildmens.
One whole army left out, that's major.
One army fighting the war on a different front: not major.
That was Tolkein's intent. [...] where does Phillipa Boyens get off screwing it up?
The movie was over 3 hours long!
So unless they start selling overpriced catethers in the lobby, they better keep that tradition of cutting some stuff.
It fit perfectly with a quasi-religious messianic jihad sci-fi story set in the year 10000AD.
I'm sorry that's overtly religious.
Or do titles like "god emperor of Dune" not carry that meaning well enough?
Aside from that nitpick, I agree.
Mod parent up please.
I found that AC's reply to be interresting and informative...maybe even insightfull.
I hadn't even thought of IBM's contract-getting powers and their Linux leanings.
TV execs have been "gaga" for a long time.
Some of there are even stupid, evil and deluded...
Unless Haliburton has recently gone into the software buisness, Microsoft will get any "reconstruction contract" involving computer infrastructures.
Then, guess who'll be in charge of "educating" the Iraqis in computer use?
I'm sure Bill's charity will donate a bunch of intel machines and "Trustworthy" OSs...
'The Day the Earth Stood Stupid' is in Season 3
The boxed sets don't mention the word "season". The fisrt box has 13 episodes, and the second has 19. They are called "volumes", and not a one flying brain, and unless I had a stroke for those 24 minutes, and it was the kind of stroke that makes you unable to find an episode when you look through the discs afterwards, no garbage comet either.
How many episodes per season are there anyways?
So which U.S. Naval vessels aren't military?
Or: witch military vessels aren't naval?
What makes the ship amphibious? From looking at the ship, looks like a regular water-only ship.
Or is it what it transport that is amphibious?
Talk about ambiguous!
You should have "A Big Piece Of Garbage" on a first season DVD. "The Day The Earth Stood Stupid" is from season three IIRC.
In one episode of the second boxed set, Fry mentions flying brains...I think its the one where his ex is thawed out.
I broke my jaw two years ago while in a Tae Kwon Do tournament. It was a complete freak accident.
Breaking your jaw while engaging in a "kick me in the face" contest isn't a freak accident.
Breaking you jaw while knitting: that is a freak accident.