I didn't know that a tardemark applied only to a specific product.
So I can sell stuff like the Microsoft office cubicle and live a lawer-free life? (I'll make it a smaller version of the standard cubicle, with plush walls...hence the micro and the soft:)
Frankly, we had a TV on in the office on sept11, and we watched the planes hit, and the towers fall. But when we needed actual info, we turned to the net, and not to cnn (wich was overcrowded), but to the CBC and the BBC.
TV is good for live footage, its good for homegenised mass-info, but when you're actively looking for specific information, nothing beats a searchable text-based news source like the net.
And I find that the most interresting aspect of the whole thing is that it says something about culture, when something totally made up from a 23 year old movie shows up in a national census.
Exactly what it says is up to debate, but the statement is the real message. I doupt that the people who awnsered Jedi when asked aout their religion actually meant that they believe in an invisible force created by life that can be used to do magic.
I wonder how it feels to know you're the one that started all of this in the first place.
Well, if nobody reads this post, will a tree still fall in the forest?
I just want to clarify something. When i say that police officer abuse their power, I don't restrict that to shooting people. I mean going over the speed limit without a good reason, going through red lights without a good reason, parking anywhere they want, etc.
However, you are right, I am paranoid. but paranoid people have rights too, and just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're not following me.:)
I'll just go make myself a stylish aluminum foil hat...
Well, I expect that dubleya intends to win this war, what whit all his claim of winning the war and all...
Afganistan is good pipeline country...them darn talibans had some US based oil company loose some pipeline deal over to some foreign company...(I'm a bit hazy on the details, but still)
It will stimulate the loss-of-privacy technology. It already has. The stock market took a dive but biometrics companies have seen their stock value soar higher and higher. Investments will be made into electronic surveillance technology, the CIA will like that.
Thats the thing, people ARE saying "before the fact" (maybe not you, but some are).
This is being pushed as a way to -prevent- further terrorist attacks. Its being marketed in a manner that says "if we had this installed before sep.11, then the twin towers would still be up".
I'm not a big enthousiast of the whole "catching criminals" deal. I'd rather put our efforts in prevention.
I'm sorry, I don't think you'll win me over to the idea of them cameras.
Well, I have cops in my family too, but it just so happens that I have had many bad encounters with cops, nothing major, but just enough to feed a healthy amount of distrust for them. They are, after all, people with guns telling me what to do...can hardly trust that, can I?
And if years of living under military conditions have made you at ease with the notion of living in a military or police state, well good for you, but maybe the rest of us don't feel the same way.
I'll agree to things like this as soon as I get full access to it. I won't mind some cop tracing me if he don't mind my tracing him. And if someone is being traced, he should know about it. THATS the thing that really annoys me, the fact that this surveillance is hush hush. The fact that its all done in a way that, no, we won't know if the system gets abused. If some technician uses the system to track his ex's new boyfriend, how will we know? Do you really blieve that there will be investigations that can uncover things like these?
And lastly, just so we're clear, I'm not a US resident, I'm canadian, quebecois to be precise. And we had something here called the octobre crisis in '70. Martial law was declared, and thousands of people were arrested without warrants. Let me say that being a supporter of the wrong party back then tagged you as a terrorist and got you roughed up. If the US starts installing cameras everywhere, our whore of a canadian government will follow with haste, and they'll use it, they'll abuse it, the way they've abused every other power they've ever had.
I'm more scared of my elected officials than I am of terrorists at this time. but then again, no plane crashed here...yet.
Then whe move in to the Us attacks, wich were suicide runs. What good does it do to have a picture of a guy that killed himself while doing it? You gonna wait for him to rise out of the grave?
If you want to catch them before they do it you have to know who they are and you have to know what they want to do. And no amount of public cameras will do this.
Total invasion of privacy on all world citizens will though, and that is what the cameras will lead to.
I've often wondered if some 80's child geek has managed to hack the powerglove into something usefull (kinda) yet.
It shouldn't be to hard to adapt it to be used as a mouse, should it?
Hmm...but would I be willing to sacrifice mine in the name of science? I think not.
Ok, I have read your post, and it has a few valid points, except that it works on the assumption that the police have had that guy in their custody before. It works if they have taken pictures of him, stripped searched him, mesured him, etc.
And it works if the police isn't a bunch of armed thugs looking for someone to beat up out of pure boredom. and my experience with the police is that they are people who are criminals (this one girl I know that wants to be a policewoman happens to be a habitual shoplifter), crminals who are above the law, who have the right to walk around with guns, who can beat up people with no chance of being arrested, because they are the ones that make the arrest. Look at how the police treat the driving laws...they are the ones that inforce it, and they don't respect it.
And getting arrested isn't a fun process, its pretty much like getting mugged. They'll rough you up, go through your pockets, put you in restraints, etc. And once you,re in the station, they'll keep you waiting a few hours in a jail cell with some possibly real criminals for a while until they come and say "oops! we though you were someone else...you're free to go".
I don't trust the police.
I don't trust the governement.
I don't trust this technology.
I can see that you live in fear and that this tech would make you feel safer. but it will not make me feel safer, quite the contrary.
They never once -prevented- a terorist attemp.
They saved no life.
They made the streets no safer.
They do get revenge though...yippee.
And if you think that utting that guy in jail will prevent terrorist attacks, take your head out of the sand. Jail one, another one will plant the next bomb.
Well, the article says that they expect to be able to keep the heart beating 24 hours after removal from the body, and that an iced heart will last 6 hours.
Is that cummulative? can they add the two techniques and keep the heart "fresh" for 30 hours total? This is good news for transplant hopefulls.
Oh yeah, that rapist would never have thought of wearing a fake mustache...
What you don't seem to be aware of is that IT DOESN'T WORK, they installed millions of cameras in england to catch terrorist, thy didn't catch one using them! Not one, in what, 7 years? Gebus! Its not a magic tool that protects you from the boogeyman, its something that costs you and makes someone else rich while being abused by some joe working for it.
Oh, and "a picture of the guy (that rapist) was found" you say...interreting, I thought that people were presumed innocent until proven guilty, but you seem to KNOW that that picture is the picture of a rapist.
Oh, there is no way this tech will be abused is there?!
Think about it, what if you looked kida like that damn rapist, you wouldn't be harrassed would you? you could still live free and happy, never once being accosted by suspicious policemen everytime you walked pass a camera, right? the amgic cameras are all knowing after all.
What I can't understand, is why nobody ever mentions catharsis when talking about art, especially, art that involves sex or violence.
Here's webster.com's definition of catharsis:
Main Entry: catharsis
Pronunciation: k&-'thär-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural catharses/-"sEz/
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek katharsis, from
kathairein to cleanse, purge, from katharos
Date: circa 1775
1 : PURGATION
2 a : purification or purgation of the emotions (as pity and fear) primarily through art
b : a purification or purgation that brings about spiritual renewal or release from tension
3 : elimination of a complex by bringing it to consciousness and affording it expression
Now, I'd rather have pedophiles jerking off in their basements while looking at made-up pictures, pictures created without causing any one any harm whatsoever, than going off out into the world looking for another way to release their sexual tensions.
Funny enough, I just saw a buffy show about -just that- yesterday night...gave me such a craving to see Cherry 2000 again!
BTW, will somebody please explain why the hell we are still paying for girls? I though that the feminist movement would have them realise that this is clearly a softcore form of protitution by now.
The thing is that one lone zebra looks damn conspicuous in the savana. That camouflage only works if you're blending in a crowd of people doing the same thing as you.
This logic reminds me of poor Mr Gattling who was convinced that his invention would save lives...
Here in Quebec we had a thing in octobre 1970 where a small group of extremists kidnapped some bigwig and killed him (accidently it turns out).
well our fine governement declared martial law, and thousands of people were arrested and roughed up (pushing shackled people down long flights of stairs was a favourite) because they had done "something wrong". their political beliefs made them criminals in this situation. (being a member of the wrong political party...)
Wait until they use this technology to scan crowds of protesters, labelling them as though-criminals, and then they can just wait until they go back home and next time they go shopping they can arrest them one by one with a nice pretense (pedophilia, how hard is it to "find" kiddie-p0rn in a siezed computer?) and lock them away, rough 'em up, whatever.
And if you think that this will never happen you need a history class ASAP. Governments aren't nice, governments start wars, they're in it for the money and power.
I object to your calling Evolution a disapoinment.
I mean, what did you expect from an alien invasion movie starring Muld..I mean, David Duchovny? From that synopsis, I think they managed to do something pretty darn good.
The thing is, sometimes the clever bastards will drop a tent on your head. (we all know that any normal villain will be totally trapped under any sheet surprisingly dropped unto him). A blade of damascus steel will let you free yourself and kill the clever bastards.
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I didn't know that a tardemark applied only to a specific product.
:)
So I can sell stuff like the Microsoft office cubicle and live a lawer-free life? (I'll make it a smaller version of the standard cubicle, with plush walls...hence the micro and the soft
Er...iPod is already a registered trademark. Do I smell a lawsuit? iPod (www.nfcconsulting.com/nfc_ipod.htm)
Just what we need, giant orbital lasers pointed down at earth!
Akira-kira-kira-kira...
Frankly, we had a TV on in the office on sept11, and we watched the planes hit, and the towers fall. But when we needed actual info, we turned to the net, and not to cnn (wich was overcrowded), but to the CBC and the BBC.
TV is good for live footage, its good for homegenised mass-info, but when you're actively looking for specific information, nothing beats a searchable text-based news source like the net.
And I find that the most interresting aspect of the whole thing is that it says something about culture, when something totally made up from a 23 year old movie shows up in a national census.
Exactly what it says is up to debate, but the statement is the real message. I doupt that the people who awnsered Jedi when asked aout their religion actually meant that they believe in an invisible force created by life that can be used to do magic.
I wonder how it feels to know you're the one that started all of this in the first place.
Well, if nobody reads this post, will a tree still fall in the forest?
:)
I just want to clarify something. When i say that police officer abuse their power, I don't restrict that to shooting people. I mean going over the speed limit without a good reason, going through red lights without a good reason, parking anywhere they want, etc.
However, you are right, I am paranoid. but paranoid people have rights too, and just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're not following me.
I'll just go make myself a stylish aluminum foil hat...
Well, I expect that dubleya intends to win this war, what whit all his claim of winning the war and all...
Afganistan is good pipeline country...them darn talibans had some US based oil company loose some pipeline deal over to some foreign company...(I'm a bit hazy on the details, but still)
It will stimulate the loss-of-privacy technology. It already has. The stock market took a dive but biometrics companies have seen their stock value soar higher and higher. Investments will be made into electronic surveillance technology, the CIA will like that.
Thats the thing, people ARE saying "before the fact" (maybe not you, but some are).
This is being pushed as a way to -prevent- further terrorist attacks. Its being marketed in a manner that says "if we had this installed before sep.11, then the twin towers would still be up".
I'm not a big enthousiast of the whole "catching criminals" deal. I'd rather put our efforts in prevention.
I'm sorry, I don't think you'll win me over to the idea of them cameras.
Well, I have cops in my family too, but it just so happens that I have had many bad encounters with cops, nothing major, but just enough to feed a healthy amount of distrust for them. They are, after all, people with guns telling me what to do...can hardly trust that, can I?
And if years of living under military conditions have made you at ease with the notion of living in a military or police state, well good for you, but maybe the rest of us don't feel the same way.
I'll agree to things like this as soon as I get full access to it. I won't mind some cop tracing me if he don't mind my tracing him. And if someone is being traced, he should know about it. THATS the thing that really annoys me, the fact that this surveillance is hush hush. The fact that its all done in a way that, no, we won't know if the system gets abused. If some technician uses the system to track his ex's new boyfriend, how will we know? Do you really blieve that there will be investigations that can uncover things like these?
And lastly, just so we're clear, I'm not a US resident, I'm canadian, quebecois to be precise. And we had something here called the octobre crisis in '70. Martial law was declared, and thousands of people were arrested without warrants. Let me say that being a supporter of the wrong party back then tagged you as a terrorist and got you roughed up. If the US starts installing cameras everywhere, our whore of a canadian government will follow with haste, and they'll use it, they'll abuse it, the way they've abused every other power they've ever had.
I'm more scared of my elected officials than I am of terrorists at this time. but then again, no plane crashed here...yet.
Then whe move in to the Us attacks, wich were suicide runs. What good does it do to have a picture of a guy that killed himself while doing it? You gonna wait for him to rise out of the grave?
If you want to catch them before they do it you have to know who they are and you have to know what they want to do. And no amount of public cameras will do this.
Total invasion of privacy on all world citizens will though, and that is what the cameras will lead to.
I've often wondered if some 80's child geek has managed to hack the powerglove into something usefull (kinda) yet.
It shouldn't be to hard to adapt it to be used as a mouse, should it?
Hmm...but would I be willing to sacrifice mine in the name of science? I think not.
Ok, I have read your post, and it has a few valid points, except that it works on the assumption that the police have had that guy in their custody before. It works if they have taken pictures of him, stripped searched him, mesured him, etc.
And it works if the police isn't a bunch of armed thugs looking for someone to beat up out of pure boredom. and my experience with the police is that they are people who are criminals (this one girl I know that wants to be a policewoman happens to be a habitual shoplifter), crminals who are above the law, who have the right to walk around with guns, who can beat up people with no chance of being arrested, because they are the ones that make the arrest. Look at how the police treat the driving laws...they are the ones that inforce it, and they don't respect it.
And getting arrested isn't a fun process, its pretty much like getting mugged. They'll rough you up, go through your pockets, put you in restraints, etc. And once you,re in the station, they'll keep you waiting a few hours in a jail cell with some possibly real criminals for a while until they come and say "oops! we though you were someone else...you're free to go".
I don't trust the police.
I don't trust the governement.
I don't trust this technology.
I can see that you live in fear and that this tech would make you feel safer. but it will not make me feel safer, quite the contrary.
Ok, that's my fault, I didn't make myself clear.
They never once -prevented- a terorist attemp.
They saved no life.
They made the streets no safer.
They do get revenge though...yippee.
And if you think that utting that guy in jail will prevent terrorist attacks, take your head out of the sand. Jail one, another one will plant the next bomb.
Nothing like a good war to jump start a declining economy...
Well, the article says that they expect to be able to keep the heart beating 24 hours after removal from the body, and that an iced heart will last 6 hours.
Is that cummulative? can they add the two techniques and keep the heart "fresh" for 30 hours total? This is good news for transplant hopefulls.
Oh yeah, that rapist would never have thought of wearing a fake mustache...
What you don't seem to be aware of is that IT DOESN'T WORK, they installed millions of cameras in england to catch terrorist, thy didn't catch one using them! Not one, in what, 7 years? Gebus! Its not a magic tool that protects you from the boogeyman, its something that costs you and makes someone else rich while being abused by some joe working for it.
Oh, and "a picture of the guy (that rapist) was found" you say...interreting, I thought that people were presumed innocent until proven guilty, but you seem to KNOW that that picture is the picture of a rapist.
Oh, there is no way this tech will be abused is there?!
Think about it, what if you looked kida like that damn rapist, you wouldn't be harrassed would you? you could still live free and happy, never once being accosted by suspicious policemen everytime you walked pass a camera, right? the amgic cameras are all knowing after all.
What I can't understand, is why nobody ever mentions catharsis when talking about art, especially, art that involves sex or violence.
/-"sEz/
Here's webster.com's definition of catharsis:
Main Entry: catharsis
Pronunciation: k&-'thär-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural catharses
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek katharsis, from
kathairein to cleanse, purge, from katharos
Date: circa 1775
1 : PURGATION
2 a : purification or purgation of the emotions (as pity and fear) primarily through art
b : a purification or purgation that brings about spiritual renewal or release from tension
3 : elimination of a complex by bringing it to consciousness and affording it expression
Now, I'd rather have pedophiles jerking off in their basements while looking at made-up pictures, pictures created without causing any one any harm whatsoever, than going off out into the world looking for another way to release their sexual tensions.
...and reconstructive surgery migh be getting your terrorst buddies to hit you in the face with a sledgehammer....
Why bother paying a doctor to mae you pretty when you just wanna foil facial recognition long enough for you to kamikaze yourself?
yeah...but anyone know the awnser to that triangle puzzle at the bottom of that page?
Its driving me crazy!
Funny enough, I just saw a buffy show about -just that- yesterday night...gave me such a craving to see Cherry 2000 again!
BTW, will somebody please explain why the hell we are still paying for girls? I though that the feminist movement would have them realise that this is clearly a softcore form of protitution by now.
The thing is that one lone zebra looks damn conspicuous in the savana. That camouflage only works if you're blending in a crowd of people doing the same thing as you.
Hey, it could be the next big fad!
:)
This logic reminds me of poor Mr Gattling who was convinced that his invention would save lives...
Here in Quebec we had a thing in octobre 1970 where a small group of extremists kidnapped some bigwig and killed him (accidently it turns out).
well our fine governement declared martial law, and thousands of people were arrested and roughed up (pushing shackled people down long flights of stairs was a favourite) because they had done "something wrong". their political beliefs made them criminals in this situation. (being a member of the wrong political party...)
Wait until they use this technology to scan crowds of protesters, labelling them as though-criminals, and then they can just wait until they go back home and next time they go shopping they can arrest them one by one with a nice pretense (pedophilia, how hard is it to "find" kiddie-p0rn in a siezed computer?) and lock them away, rough 'em up, whatever.
And if you think that this will never happen you need a history class ASAP. Governments aren't nice, governments start wars, they're in it for the money and power.
Will somebody PLEASE think of the children?!
I object to your calling Evolution a disapoinment.
:)
I mean, what did you expect from an alien invasion movie starring Muld..I mean, David Duchovny? From that synopsis, I think they managed to do something pretty darn good.
+ its got the greatest product placement ever!
The thing is, sometimes the clever bastards will drop a tent on your head. (we all know that any normal villain will be totally trapped under any sheet surprisingly dropped unto him). A blade of damascus steel will let you free yourself and kill the clever bastards.
Brute strenght is cool, versatility is better.