I wonder. Can someone-anyone explain how ATT's offer to buy out Excite at 300 million can exist in the same world as Comcast's 44.5 billion offer to buy AT&T broadband?
The cable companies, particularly ATT, controlled excite. They drove it into the ground. And now one of them is going to snap it up at a bargain price, and will not have to take on any of the debt.
attbi has something like $12 bilion in debt that Comcast is willing to take on.
Various cable companies are vying to pay $3500-4000 per subscriber for attbi. Cnet says that is a "reasonable valuation" in the purchase of a cableco.
No one is willing to pay anything like that price for @home customers, even without the debt. Four million broadband users are not worth even $100 each?
If Johnny grows up using a Mac in school, what kind of computer/OS is he likely to purchase after school?
Since Commodore and Apple owned the educational market for the childhood of the current generation of computer users, the answer is obviously WINTEL.
Apple's diminished market share makes the educational market quite important in itself. The marketing benefits, if indeed the education play produces any, are a small additional benefit
While I sympathize with the taxpayers of Maine, the rest of the nation stands to benefit the most from this, by simply watching this experiment fail and taking a lesson on how not to incorporate tech into the schools.
quote: "With the passage of the Learning Technology Endowment, Maine stands as the first state to embark upon a statewide plan to eliminate the digital divide and provide computing equity to its students."
"Why do we have to use these Crap-in-toshes?" was pretty much the general attitude where I went to school.
Obviously your school was using Apple 2's post-1984. My experience with Apple 2's in school, and probably the original poster's, was prior to the intro of the Mac.
Not so "duh." Consider that ATT owns 25% of Excite@Home and, more imortantly, retains 75% controlling interest, the rest held by Excite's other "customers," Comcast, Cox and others.
Of course the deals they made were advantageous to the cablecos!
PLUS: ATT tried to scoop up Excite at a bargain rate after they drove it into the ground, hence acquiring a valuable network and escaping the debt accrued with the cable purchases they made.
Today the ATT Broadband auction takes place. Consider: they just added nearly a million users when Excite "independently" decided to cut off the att@home users. Hmmm...bad business?
here is att broadbands most recent update on migration, and another press release, with somewhat different info, is here.
Is it just me, or is the news server only serving up at 150K? I used to get 400K.
To Those on attbi.com Here is the important part of this post
All reports I've heard indicate a 1.5 mbps cap on the migrated users. This may be a temporary measure to ensure bandwidth availability during the migration period. But if no one complains, I wouldn't be surprised if ATT retains it, so let someone know you are not entirely happy!
A meaningful war movie of the Saving Private Ryan camp, not the Hollywoodesque Full Metal Jacket camp.
Let me get this straight -- you call a Stanley Kubrick film "Hollywood," as opposed to a "meaningful" Steven Spielberg film?
Even in pure geographical terms, you are off -- Kubrick has lived and worked in England since his 60s masterpiece Dr. Strangelove. Spielberg is the ultimate Hollywood work-within-the-system type of auteur, a lifelong Hollywood boy.
This No Man's Land may indeed be a fine film, but I find that hard to buy from someone making a statement like that.
How can you mix up the GREATEST guy movie of our generation with some lame ass washed-up chuck norris kids movie????? I never really thought Katz was a fool until now...
So Katz's last article, about his little Afghan buddy who dug up his Commodore from behind the chicken coop so he could download movies, and who watchs Baywatch on Kabul TV (at a time when that city was without any electric power), failed to convince you he is a fool?
It produces profits by allowing companies to pay for higher listings.
That is how selling positions in search results gives profits. But that is not what we are discussing. The fear is that a voter-rating system will allow spammers to crap up results. Google would not collect revenue from the spammers, and would lose audience (hence lose revenue) if it allowed such abuse.
At least, that is what the article indicates. Read it?
In this case it will only be a matter of creating "replay" groups that will create material that will be "easy" to get... "Hey, I missed the last episode of the Soprano's can someone send it to me?" "Does, any one have "Shrek?""
The newsgroup alt.binaries.multimedia is already bloated with traffic from people capturing and uploading tv episodes. Go here and search for "Enterprise" or "Buffy" in that group. You don't even need a Replay or a capture card to download every episode of these series, with patience.
The barn door is already wide open. If they shoot down Replay, will they go after my "Personal Cinema" card next?
Now if only there was a legal way of obtaining content.
It's called video capture, and it's 100% legal for your own use; sharing with a friend is only slightly gray (though sharing with strangers, via newsgroups, for instance, is almost certainly illegal).
The nvidia "Personal Cinema" and ATI's latest Radeon 8500 "All In Wonder" provide much better TiVo/Replay functionality than previous low-end capture solutions, and will probably continue to improve. With a sufficiently powerful system, these cards can capture as well as a TiVo or Replay; with the right software (like PowerVCR), commercial skipping is available as well.
Unfortunately, no existing programming guide gives click-and-record programming capabilities for these devices, but "sharing" -- and archival recording -- is a hell of a lot easier!
So you're saying that the more people that read the message on tru7h.org the more true it becomes that it was Google who sent it?
uh, now that you mention it...yeah, I guess I was saying that, though I didn't realize it. Sorry, hadn't noticed your initial link to the public posting.
Of course it was from Google; another poster here was familiar with the message and told you that it had the request to modify robots.txt when you claimed it asked you to remove robots.txt.
By some stretch of the imagination, this could be considered spam; but if so, I would consider it benign spam, for several reasons. For one, it provides me with a more complete database to search. For another, the robots.txt file may not even have been placed on the server by the current webmaster; a hostile ex-employee, or a hacker, may have placed it there in a deliberate effort to reduce traffic. I suspect this happens more often than you may guess.
A one-time notice to inform you that you won't be indexed for this reason may be an annoyance to you, but it is intended to the people that it addresses -- the ones who really don't know they will be excluded -- to whom it is a real service.
It's saying "please remove the robots.txt file from your site so that we may index the site and thereby increase the size of our search database".
In the English language, quotemarks mean a verbatim quote. But now you give us a "verbatim" quote which is different. How does this make you not a liar?
As to the actual content of the letter: They are just trying to do their job, and provide me with a more complete index. So, they make a profit by doing so, that does not make their letter to you an advertisemnet (commercial email).
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I wonder. Can someone-anyone explain how ATT's offer to buy out Excite at 300 million can exist in the same world as Comcast's 44.5 billion offer to buy AT&T broadband?
The cable companies, particularly ATT, controlled excite. They drove it into the ground. And now one of them is going to snap it up at a bargain price, and will not have to take on any of the debt.
attbi has something like $12 bilion in debt that Comcast is willing to take on.
Various cable companies are vying to pay $3500-4000 per subscriber for attbi. Cnet says that is a "reasonable valuation" in the purchase of a cableco.
No one is willing to pay anything like that price for @home customers, even without the debt. Four million broadband users are not worth even $100 each?
Feh. The whole thing stinks of "cartel."
Yeah, and I understand there are no homosexuals in communist china
Yeah, well maybe when you put a few more years between yourself and college, you'll find making a teenager feel badly about himself a bit less funny.
If Johnny grows up using a Mac in school, what kind of computer/OS is he likely to purchase after school?
Since Commodore and Apple owned the educational market for the childhood of the current generation of computer users, the answer is obviously WINTEL.
Apple's diminished market share makes the educational market quite important in itself. The marketing benefits, if indeed the education play produces any, are a small additional benefit
While I sympathize with the taxpayers of Maine, the rest of the nation stands to benefit the most from this, by simply watching this experiment fail and taking a lesson on how not to incorporate tech into the schools.
Those who want to see Maine's future can get a quick fix here. Seems these 8th graders tend to act like 13-year-olds.
Christ on a cracker, have you and the previous posters nothing better to do than get on the case of some schoolkid?
And, if you are schoolkids yourselves, at least the kid was trying to contribute to the discussion. OTOH, if you guys are adults, try to act it.
It's not "disguised" -- see this.
quote: "With the passage of the Learning Technology Endowment, Maine stands as the first state to embark upon a statewide plan to eliminate the digital divide and provide computing equity to its students."
"Why do we have to use these Crap-in-toshes?" was pretty much the general attitude where I went to school.
Obviously your school was using Apple 2's post-1984. My experience with Apple 2's in school, and probably the original poster's, was prior to the intro of the Mac.
Actually, I'd make a trip to Maine to check out the pawn shops. Homework excuse: "My junkie dad sold my Ibook."
Not so "duh." Consider that ATT owns 25% of Excite@Home and, more imortantly, retains 75% controlling interest, the rest held by Excite's other "customers," Comcast, Cox and others.
Of course the deals they made were advantageous to the cablecos!
PLUS: ATT tried to scoop up Excite at a bargain rate after they drove it into the ground, hence acquiring a valuable network and escaping the debt accrued with the cable purchases they made.
Today the ATT Broadband auction takes place. Consider: they just added nearly a million users when Excite "independently" decided to cut off the att@home users. Hmmm...bad business?
Only if you are referring to ethics.
here is att broadbands most recent update on migration, and another press release, with somewhat different info, is here.
Is it just me, or is the news server only serving up at 150K? I used to get 400K.
To Those on attbi.com
Here is the important part of this post
All reports I've heard indicate a 1.5 mbps cap on the migrated users. This may be a temporary measure to ensure bandwidth availability during the migration period. But if no one complains, I wouldn't be surprised if ATT retains it, so let someone know you are not entirely happy!
Thanks for the response. I do see your point (saw your point at first as well, but appreciate the clarification).
Let me get this straight -- you call a Stanley Kubrick film "Hollywood," as opposed to a "meaningful" Steven Spielberg film?
Even in pure geographical terms, you are off -- Kubrick has lived and worked in England since his 60s masterpiece Dr. Strangelove. Spielberg is the ultimate Hollywood work-within-the-system type of auteur, a lifelong Hollywood boy.
This No Man's Land may indeed be a fine film, but I find that hard to buy from someone making a statement like that.
So Katz's last article, about his little Afghan buddy who dug up his Commodore from behind the chicken coop so he could download movies, and who watchs Baywatch on Kabul TV (at a time when that city was without any electric power), failed to convince you he is a fool?
We are Katz's testbed proofreader
Hey, I was salivatin' for "Hired Guns" back in 99. Got a copy you can "release" to the newsgroups?
That is how selling positions in search results gives profits. But that is not what we are discussing. The fear is that a voter-rating system will allow spammers to crap up results. Google would not collect revenue from the spammers, and would lose audience (hence lose revenue) if it allowed such abuse.
At least, that is what the article indicates. Read it?
Not all their customers...yet. Here's the latest on the migration plan.
The newsgroup alt.binaries.multimedia is already bloated with traffic from people capturing and uploading tv episodes. Go here and search for "Enterprise" or "Buffy" in that group. You don't even need a Replay or a capture card to download every episode of these series, with patience.
The barn door is already wide open. If they shoot down Replay, will they go after my "Personal Cinema" card next?
It's called video capture, and it's 100% legal for your own use; sharing with a friend is only slightly gray (though sharing with strangers, via newsgroups, for instance, is almost certainly illegal).
The nvidia "Personal Cinema" and ATI's latest Radeon 8500 "All In Wonder" provide much better TiVo/Replay functionality than previous low-end capture solutions, and will probably continue to improve. With a sufficiently powerful system, these cards can capture as well as a TiVo or Replay; with the right software (like PowerVCR), commercial skipping is available as well.
Unfortunately, no existing programming guide gives click-and-record programming capabilities for these devices, but "sharing" -- and archival recording -- is a hell of a lot easier!
So you're saying that the more people that read the message on tru7h.org the more true it becomes that it was Google who sent it?
uh, now that you mention it...yeah, I guess I was saying that, though I didn't realize it. Sorry, hadn't noticed your initial link to the public posting.
Card Captor Sakura. Kero is reallly cute!!!
I'd dearly love to test one of these.
So buy one, you cheap bastard, instead of whoring around for free samples with a /. submission.
Of course it was from Google; another poster here was familiar with the message and told you that it had the request to modify robots.txt when you claimed it asked you to remove robots.txt.
By some stretch of the imagination, this could be considered spam; but if so, I would consider it benign spam, for several reasons. For one, it provides me with a more complete database to search. For another, the robots.txt file may not even have been placed on the server by the current webmaster; a hostile ex-employee, or a hacker, may have placed it there in a deliberate effort to reduce traffic. I suspect this happens more often than you may guess.
A one-time notice to inform you that you won't be indexed for this reason may be an annoyance to you, but it is intended to the people that it addresses -- the ones who really don't know they will be excluded -- to whom it is a real service.
Your previous "quote" was:
It's saying "please remove the robots.txt file from your site so that we may index the site and thereby increase the size of our search database".
In the English language, quotemarks mean a verbatim quote. But now you give us a "verbatim" quote which is different. How does this make you not a liar?
As to the actual content of the letter: They are just trying to do their job, and provide me with a more complete index. So, they make a profit by doing so, that does not make their letter to you an advertisemnet (commercial email).