Please, we were all alive and adult in 2000, we know Gore didn't win, so obviously the piece was an opinion piece, how does that graphic "deceive" anyone? How is showing an actual headline in an actual newspaper "completely fake?"
On the other hand - Moore says there's no Porter Goss 800 number. Koppel says there is. Porter Goss says this is none. So who's "deceitful?"
Posted on Sat, Jul. 31, 2004
JibJab defends use of 'This Land'
Bloomberg News
""This Land" was made for you and me, JibJab Media says in a lawsuit seeking the right to use the Woody Guthrie song This Land Is Your Land in an online parody of President Bush and Sen. John Kerry.
JibJab, which creates cartoons and children's books, wants a court order saying the song's inclusion in an animated video that shows Bush and Kerry slinging insults is a fair use under copyright law. The song's copyright owner, Ludlow Music, has threatened to sue JibJab if the song isn't pulled from its Web site, JibJab claims.
In the two-minute video, Bush's cartoon character declares that his Democratic opponent has "more waffles than a House of Pancakes," and Kerry counters that Bush "is a right-wing nut job." The video has been aired on shows including ABC World News Tonight, The Today Show and Larry King Live.
Kathryn Ostien, director of copyright, licensing and royalties for New York-based Ludlow Music, didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.
JibJab, which is run by brothers Gregg and Evan Spiridellis, says in its suit, filed Thursday in San Francisco federal court, that the video is a parody and doesn't infringe on Ludlow Music's copyrights."
According to Kopel, LRD is a money laundry for Hamas. He offers Debbie Schussel as a source; she offers no source at all. It's obvious she got the names confused.
Kopel shouldn't rely on the cut-rate version of Ann Coulter for his "facts."
That's just the worst example. There are many many more.
There's room for comments directly below the posts (unlike Kopel's site), feel free to offer your counter-arguments, if any exist.
What kind of fuckhead accuses people who distribute wheelchairs of being terrorists with no proof or even evidence?
Except for some typos, that's exactly what I said 10 minutes after the story was first posted, while all the other posters were going "duh" and making "pron" jokes. Yet someone modded me down for trolling!
Look, my whole point was exactly what was said in the post, which did not refer to what was in Columbus's head in any way, nor did it make any assertions about what was right for Columbus and his contemporaries.
I was addressing the point made that most people felt that the diameter of earth was double what Columbus thought it was, and therefore most people would not expect him to reach landfall.
Those projecting a more accurate size of the earth, since they had any number of finite bodies of water in their own part of the world for examples, could have reasoned that there was a possibility of other landfalls than Asia.
Since you obviously are not going to give up without a citation, here you go:
"It is hard to determine what Europeans mariners of this era knew of the North Atlantic. We can only guess at specifics by studying contemporary maps. We also don't know if many Europeans had knowledge of Norse explorations and settlements from Greenland to Vinland. Papal knowledge of Greenland seems to have extended to the late 15th century, but the settlements had met with failure and the island-colony had faded away from the European psyche.
"Mythical islands in the North Atlantic were plentiful: the islands of Saint-Brendan, Hy-Brazil, the islands of Seven Cities and Frisland to name a few. Some are held by some as being rooted in some long forgotten discovery of North America by Irish monks. Other mythical or phantom islands may have been added to maps because of optical illusions, icebergs drifting in the distance, or just pure legend."
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/exploration/geo_tosc.htm l
I was not making a case as to whether Columbus misled his men or not, or that his contemporaries should have stopped them at the pier.
I was objecting to the poster's assertion that the general notion was that, without "dumb luck," Columbus was fated to find a void between Spain and Asia. I do not think that was the general belief.
The theary of transmission of disease by prion has been under dispute. This indicates that it is.
What that means is that ingesting the beef from a cow with bovine spongiform encephalopathy could result in the development of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
It may be adviseable to sell your Mickey D stock.
Don't stop eating beef though; as CJD has an incubation period of up to 40 years, you are already doomed.
It can definitely be cheaper -- the system I'm on has an $80 WD 200GB hard drive, the case and motherboard (soyo K7VME) cost $20 (with a shitty keyboard and a shitty pair of speakers thrown in, those are in the closet in case I ever want to assemble a really bad system), an XP2800+ processor that I picked up for $90, 512 pc2700 memory that was about the same. DVD writer was $90 a while ago, equivalent sells for 50 now. It needs a better power supply, a video card (using on-board crap now), and better speakers, maybe a sound card. But it is doing everything I need it to do for very low outlay.
It's not "better," though...I wasn't going for top of the line.
You can spend more and match the high end systems without matching the price, and still not be happy. Depends on whether you would rather make your own mistakes or have an OEM do that for you.
Every body of water other than the eastern and western oceans had known dimensions. I doubt very much that theories about what lay over the horizon were quite so uniform as your argument implies.
Nowhere did I say that any particular thing was sensible. I stated that it was irrational to assume that doubling the diameter of the globe changes the risks. Unless one assumes a Pangeaic distribution of land mass, there is no basis for it.
We are entering an age of shitty quality everywhere.
I wonder how old you might be. I'm 55 and, since first perusing Usenet in 1979, I have periodically seen posts expressing the exact same sentiments at pretty much regular intervals throughout those 25 years. Recent years have not particularly increased their frequency.
I am puzzled as to where you get that I said anything about Columbus. I was addressing the previous poster's remark regarding people who supposedly regarded the globe to have "twice the diameter" that Columbus supposed it to have. This, of course, is according to that initial poster.
My remark had nothing to do with actual historic attitudes of anyone; I was addressing a weakness of mathematical logic in the statement made by a poster -- that the majority of learned people in Columbus's time correctly calculated the circumference of earth and believed that there was nothing but sea between Spain and Asia. Without researching the point, I doubt that it's that simple.
NASA is a military outfit. In the hands of the current administration, it is a big, fat war toy. Much of its know-how has already been transferred to the science-fiction-y Air Force Space Command.
Representatives from the secretary of defense's office, unified combatant commands and service space components discussed the soon-to-be-released national security space strategy and how this strategy supports improved planning and delivery of space capabilities.
The symposium, Mr. Teets said, is a forum for discussion on where the strategy is and where it should be going.
The secretary explained the Air Force's strategy for moving forward.
"We have been working for some time to build a coherent overall national security space strategy," he said.
"Our challenge today is to exploit the space medium in new and better ways to provide decision makers and warfighters with everything they need to guarantee the safety and security of the U.S. and its allies," he said.
Once the national security space plan is published, Air Force officials will lay out detailed actions and specific objectives, and provide a blueprint for success.
"Space systems and capabilities are vital to our national security," Mr. Teets said. "Our national security space strategy will guide our actions in the coming years to ensure that we sustain space power as a decisive asymmetric advantage for America, its allies and its coalition partners."
So, you're saying that, if anyone were to suspect the earth to be twice the size, they would have no reason to suspect there might be an undiscovered land-mass? Just a freakin' ocean 10,000 miles across? It would be irrational for anyone to assume the earth had an ocean as large as the atlantic, the pacific and north america combined.
I know what sense of "adventure" you mean, but there are several meanings that might apply, and they aren't all great:
1. a. An undertaking or enterprise of a hazardous nature. [If danger is all we get out of it, where's the point?]
1. b. An undertaking of a questionable nature, especially one involving intervention in another state's affairs. [Are the Martians hiding Saddam's WMD?]
2. An unusual or exciting experience: an adventure in dining. [When this "adventure is dining" is over, I hope you won't mind picking up my share of the tab.]
3. Participation in hazardous or exciting experiences: the love of adventure. [Thrill-seeking is fine. But I would rather send my kid to a good affordable school, or know that the Veteran's Administration will still be around to help sick vets.]
4. A financial speculation or business venture. [We'd have to find something mighty valuable on Mars to justify the cost of bringing it back here.]
Why does MS do so much talking about what they're going to do...
You're talking about a statement in Japanese that was put on a website halfway around the world. A better question might be, "why is/. bothering me with this?"
Seems a hasty prediction, in that "monitors today" are not, in most instances, what will be used with Longhorn.
New Windows OS's mostly grow from new PC sales, rather than upgrades. Assuming it's released on schedule, 16 months from now, what will be the typical monitor accompanying a new system?
Is it entirely unlikely that MS may use the transition to HD TV to leverage the sale of Longhorn-based Media PC's? Seems that this is part of their intention, anyway. What sort of monitor will those systems have?
the point is not to fulfill existing needs; it's to create something that will become a "need" because people want it.
In 1999, standard desktops came with 5-to-15 gigs drivespace. If 10 gig drive crapped out on you today, how much trouble would you go to to replace it?
Many drives will outlast 5 years. Many drives will be replaced and become idle, or be passed on to third parties, before 5 years are gone. Of the drives that quit in the 4th or 5th year of operation, I doubt that many will be shipped out for replacement.
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On the other hand - Moore says there's no Porter Goss 800 number. Koppel says there is. Porter Goss says this is none. So who's "deceitful?"
Posted on Sat, Jul. 31, 2004
JibJab defends use of 'This Land'
Bloomberg News
""This Land" was made for you and me, JibJab Media says in a lawsuit seeking the right to use the Woody Guthrie song This Land Is Your Land in an online parody of President Bush and Sen. John Kerry.
JibJab, which creates cartoons and children's books, wants a court order saying the song's inclusion in an animated video that shows Bush and Kerry slinging insults is a fair use under copyright law. The song's copyright owner, Ludlow Music, has threatened to sue JibJab if the song isn't pulled from its Web site, JibJab claims.
In the two-minute video, Bush's cartoon character declares that his Democratic opponent has "more waffles than a House of Pancakes," and Kerry counters that Bush "is a right-wing nut job." The video has been aired on shows including ABC World News Tonight, The Today Show and Larry King Live.
Kathryn Ostien, director of copyright, licensing and royalties for New York-based Ludlow Music, didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.
JibJab, which is run by brothers Gregg and Evan Spiridellis, says in its suit, filed Thursday in San Francisco federal court, that the video is a parody and doesn't infringe on Ludlow Music's copyrights."
The worst of Kopel's lies comes from Debbie Schussel's confusion between "Life for Relief and Development" and "Holy Land for Relief and Development."
LRD is in partnership with the US State Department in providing humaitarian assistance in Iraq.
"Holy Land for Relief and Development" was closed down as a money laundry for Hamas.
According to Kopel, LRD is a money laundry for Hamas. He offers Debbie Schussel as a source; she offers no source at all. It's obvious she got the names confused.
Kopel shouldn't rely on the cut-rate version of Ann Coulter for his "facts."
That's just the worst example. There are many many more.
There's room for comments directly below the posts (unlike Kopel's site), feel free to offer your counter-arguments, if any exist.
What kind of fuckhead accuses people who distribute wheelchairs of being terrorists with no proof or even evidence?
Except for some typos, that's exactly what I said 10 minutes after the story was first posted, while all the other posters were going "duh" and making "pron" jokes. Yet someone modded me down for trolling!
I was addressing the point made that most people felt that the diameter of earth was double what Columbus thought it was, and therefore most people would not expect him to reach landfall.
Those projecting a more accurate size of the earth, since they had any number of finite bodies of water in their own part of the world for examples, could have reasoned that there was a possibility of other landfalls than Asia.
Since you obviously are not going to give up without a citation, here you go:
"It is hard to determine what Europeans mariners of this era knew of the North Atlantic. We can only guess at specifics by studying contemporary maps. We also don't know if many Europeans had knowledge of Norse explorations and settlements from Greenland to Vinland. Papal knowledge of Greenland seems to have extended to the late 15th century, but the settlements had met with failure and the island-colony had faded away from the European psyche.
"Mythical islands in the North Atlantic were plentiful: the islands of Saint-Brendan, Hy-Brazil, the islands of Seven Cities and Frisland to name a few. Some are held by some as being rooted in some long forgotten discovery of North America by Irish monks. Other mythical or phantom islands may have been added to maps because of optical illusions, icebergs drifting in the distance, or just pure legend." http://www.heritage.nf.ca/exploration/geo_tosc.htm l
I was not making a case as to whether Columbus misled his men or not, or that his contemporaries should have stopped them at the pier.
I was objecting to the poster's assertion that the general notion was that, without "dumb luck," Columbus was fated to find a void between Spain and Asia. I do not think that was the general belief.
"This increases the likelyhood that disease is transmissible by prion," is what I menat to say. Sorry, was thinking about my Mickey D stock.
What that means is that ingesting the beef from a cow with bovine spongiform encephalopathy could result in the development of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.
It may be adviseable to sell your Mickey D stock.
Don't stop eating beef though; as CJD has an incubation period of up to 40 years, you are already doomed.
My dream of Batman will only come about if Sam Raimi grows weary of Spiderman, and Bruce Campbell sheds a couple of decades. Not likely, I guess.
It's not "better," though...I wasn't going for top of the line.
You can spend more and match the high end systems without matching the price, and still not be happy. Depends on whether you would rather make your own mistakes or have an OEM do that for you.
Every body of water other than the eastern and western oceans had known dimensions. I doubt very much that theories about what lay over the horizon were quite so uniform as your argument implies.
Nowhere did I say that any particular thing was sensible. I stated that it was irrational to assume that doubling the diameter of the globe changes the risks. Unless one assumes a Pangeaic distribution of land mass, there is no basis for it.
I'd say, gearing down to a commodotized market.
I wonder how old you might be. I'm 55 and, since first perusing Usenet in 1979, I have periodically seen posts expressing the exact same sentiments at pretty much regular intervals throughout those 25 years. Recent years have not particularly increased their frequency.
My remark had nothing to do with actual historic attitudes of anyone; I was addressing a weakness of mathematical logic in the statement made by a poster -- that the majority of learned people in Columbus's time correctly calculated the circumference of earth and believed that there was nothing but sea between Spain and Asia. Without researching the point, I doubt that it's that simple.
National Security Space Strategy Some excerpts:
Representatives from the secretary of defense's office, unified combatant commands and service space components discussed the soon-to-be-released national security space strategy and how this strategy supports improved planning and delivery of space capabilities.
The symposium, Mr. Teets said, is a forum for discussion on where the strategy is and where it should be going.
The secretary explained the Air Force's strategy for moving forward.
"We have been working for some time to build a coherent overall national security space strategy," he said.
"Our challenge today is to exploit the space medium in new and better ways to provide decision makers and warfighters with everything they need to guarantee the safety and security of the U.S. and its allies," he said.
Once the national security space plan is published, Air Force officials will lay out detailed actions and specific objectives, and provide a blueprint for success.
"Space systems and capabilities are vital to our national security," Mr. Teets said. "Our national security space strategy will guide our actions in the coming years to ensure that we sustain space power as a decisive asymmetric advantage for America, its allies and its coalition partners."
1. a. An undertaking or enterprise of a hazardous nature. [If danger is all we get out of it, where's the point?]
1. b. An undertaking of a questionable nature, especially one involving intervention in another state's affairs. [Are the Martians hiding Saddam's WMD?]
2. An unusual or exciting experience: an adventure in dining. [When this "adventure is dining" is over, I hope you won't mind picking up my share of the tab.]
3. Participation in hazardous or exciting experiences: the love of adventure. [Thrill-seeking is fine. But I would rather send my kid to a good affordable school, or know that the Veteran's Administration will still be around to help sick vets.]
4. A financial speculation or business venture. [We'd have to find something mighty valuable on Mars to justify the cost of bringing it back here.]
I'd been wondering why Bush, customarily wrong on everything, was advocating a strong space program. That guy is all about "adventure."
You're talking about a statement in Japanese that was put on a website halfway around the world. A better question might be, "why is /. bothering me with this?"
New Windows OS's mostly grow from new PC sales, rather than upgrades. Assuming it's released on schedule, 16 months from now, what will be the typical monitor accompanying a new system?
Is it entirely unlikely that MS may use the transition to HD TV to leverage the sale of Longhorn-based Media PC's? Seems that this is part of their intention, anyway. What sort of monitor will those systems have?
the point is not to fulfill existing needs; it's to create something that will become a "need" because people want it.
Many drives will outlast 5 years. Many drives will be replaced and become idle, or be passed on to third parties, before 5 years are gone. Of the drives that quit in the 4th or 5th year of operation, I doubt that many will be shipped out for replacement.