The aim is to combat the use of DVR devices, like Tivo, to skip advertising by introducing interactivity
Really? Because it really, really looks like the aim is to do something new and fancy and as a result get some editorial publicity for free. And it works;)
Would you mind accommodating your +1 Insightful and tell the world why? The same reason that MySQL is crap, because you really, really need stored procedures, views and transactions to keep track of 20.000 messages in 1.500 threads? The same reason that Java sucks for everything, always and C never does? The same reason that compiled languages are always better than interpreted ones?
Of course, that reason I'm referring to is arrogance.
Don't get me wrong. I'm actually halfway to a MSc in Computer Science, and frequently have my ego challenged by kids and their flash 'applications', drag'n'drop VB crap and funny web apps that trust me to let it pass critical information in the URL.. These kids tend to think that I'm learning useless crap because they already know. Naturally I'm all warm inside when I get to give their 'application' 500% speedup by adding an index to a table.
But what makes PHP itself unsecure? Yes, PHP wants to be proporly configured. And if you let 50 kids run amok on the same server, sure they'll fuck something up (though never outside of the PHP user).
Now imagine a production webserver, to where only qualified developers has access, and only tested PHP code is put on. Works for me, has for a long time.
Oh, and concluding that all PHP is paint by numbers because it's a scripting language is just ignorant. #include stdio.h anyone? Not enough of a real man to write your own IO routines, so you're stuck with gluing together libc stuff "in a paint-by-numbers style"? bah..
The servers start at the "M" SLA, which gives you access to a shared 100 mbit backbone. For 100/month extra you get dedicated 100mbit (and Dell gold support), and for 300 extra you get a redundant backbone (and more..).
Send me an email at martin.. at.. biplane.. dk if you want more help..
I don't want everybody to sue all the time. I want 10.000 consumers to sue about 12 times.
The carpet analogy was just me being cute, I know it's invalid. My point is that the right to backup is quite new and is so convenient that it appears to be made up for the sole purpose of being an argument in this discussion.
Just because we suddently have a kind of media that is digital, why should we necessarily have the right to back it up? LPs, tapes, videos - these are media that actually deteriorates from being used - yet no great demand for backups was ever voiced. Rather, people took care of their stuff and accepted the fact that they would need to buy new copies if they ruined the old ones.
Oh, and if the DRM was implemented properly, there should be no problem backing stuff up. It will just be encrypted. The key to the media is kept with the media-provider, out of the way of children and guests.
I don't know about the transfer of media, I didn't really consider that. I could imagine that media-providers wouldn't want that. But they will have to allow you to dispose of a player and keep your media, otherwise they can't make new ones with better features and hope to sell them.
If they build in a permanent key, then it's 100% crackable. There are ways to do this. DRM works by controlling the full path from media to hardware, because the media *will* be decrypted, and you wouldn't want to expose this data. Usually you will get a key with limitations in it, such as expiry-date, player-ID etc. - now, if these are removed, the key will be global and permanent.
Just like everyone's suing Sony about the DRM rootkit damage? The Sony rootkit is relatively obscure. 50.000 normal users wrongfully tagged as pirates aren't. Which is my point. These are flaws that will affect the masses, and thus the class-action litigators.
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- Then, when you want to watch one, the disc authentication servers are down - Or your network connection is down
Perhaps they will design the system so that it only needs to talk to the servers once every week or such. You know, rootkit aside, Sony has been known to put out technologically sound solutions.
- Or, the company goes out of business or "end of lifes" your movies -now half your collection is unplayable. Usually, the rights to digital assets are worth money, and thus sought liquidated. Now company B owns the rights to the movies, and you and everybody else sues. In the unlikely case that the media is abandoned, a key is provided to permanently unlock all the discs.
- You put in a scratched disc, and the player's broken firmware reports you're a pirate. The server disables your player. You sue the company.
- You've had a flood, fire, and one of your players was stolen. Whoops, that's too many player units for your "consumer discs." All your discs won't play anymore. Obviously a mechanism for dis-owning a player would be needed. People has been known to sell used players, have then stolen etc. Since the players need to be online, this information can be transfered to the player.
- You have no way to protect your investment against disasters - no way to backup the data you paid for. Do no underestimate this! Especially if you have your collection in an area with lots of guests or kids. I have no way to protect my investment in flooring and carpets agains guests or kids, either.
- Disney wants to release another "lion king" in Super Remastered Ultra Uncut editions. They disable all their old discs, so you can't show your kid the Lion King when he asks you to unless you go out and buy the new one. So you sue Disney, since this is not in accordance with the terms under which you entered the agreement to buy the disc.
- Sony decides it's costing them too much money to run the DRM authentication servers. They decide to charge all users $15/mo. If you don't you can't play any of your discs. This is a reasonable concern. Although, I think it's going to be that way from the beginning and be more like $30/year.
We, the geeks, are annoyed by DRM now, because we can't play WMA9 on Linux, can't use it on our portable players etc. But it actually work pretty good for the majority of users. They are happy that they can shop music online and play it on the computer and burn it to a CD.
But all of these points will potentially affect every consumer, and not just us geeks. Do not underestimate the power of pissing off all of your customers.
How do you figure that? You point out the lack of RAM and monitor yourself? Sure, a 100 GB disk is a lot (didn't know that 2.5" went that high), but the rest is pretty standard for a laptop. 512 MB RAM is not enough if you ever come near, say, the Eclipse IDE. The fact that the optical drive reads and writes pretty much everything that size and shape of a CD is just a question of a chip and a laser-LED (which are just more expensive, not heavier or more powerconsuming). WiFi and Bluetooth - wouldn't wanna buy a laptop without it. 2 kg? Pretty damn light.
Anyway, I have a ThinkPad T43, it has pretty much the same specs (although 1 GB RAM and a 1400*1040 px monitor - and, obviously, no Yonah, but a Pentium M 2 ghz processor). It weighs 2.2 kg, runs Linux with no problems and is well beneath $2000.
Is it a desktop replacement? I use it as my primary PC, but that is mainly due to the fact that I spend 80% at my working time at three different locations (home, work, university), and the other 20% at completely random locations (customers, friends, ??), so stationary desktop computers are not really a feasible option. But still, for any kind of CPU intensive work, I ssh to bigger machines.
Google does that, too. A few years ago I was at a McDonald's with a friend and this 80s song came on. We started to talk about it, and decided we wanted know what it was. So we picked out a couple of words, "someones son" and "understand it", and typed that into Google later that day: http://www.google.com/search?q=lyrics+someones+son +understand+it
And then we found out. No special service, just the mother of all knowledge.
(this was in the day and age of Napster, so a few more minutes later we were able to get audible confirmation that we'd found the right song)
(We'll ignore the heat from the water which radiates through the heater; the energy loss from the hot water will occur with both conventional and microwave heaters.)
That's not a very good idea.
The radiation heat from a waterheater is very much significant. It is minimal in the mentioned setup because the water is not heated before it is needed. It may be much less efficient watt-by-watt if you use a lot of hot water around the clock - but in a typical residential setting where you only need hot water a few times a day - but need it immediately - the microwave solution could prove to be very efficient. If you go heat up the exact amount of water you need, right when you need it, and is prepared to wait a bit for it, the electrical solution is likely the more efficent.
[...] Scientific Linux (which doesn't seem to get any play time on/.)
Well, rule number one of PR: Tell us what you do. I spend more than sixty seconds on the SL.org website and I still don't know what SL will give me over a Debian. I do, however, know that its appreviation is SL and it is build on Enterprise Linux - which is another distribution I have no knowledge of.
So? How much memory bandwidth do they have? Not I/O bandwidth, but memory bandwidth. I highly doubt that they have as much bandwidth PER CORE as the Opterons do, and in big applications, memory bandwidth can be a very important factor.
The Niagara has four 144-bit interfaces. The Opterons (Both single- and dualcores) has two 72 bit interfaces.
The Crays are not just about memory bandwidth, but also alot about an efficent interconnect.
No. A and B are media provider and your hardware, respectively. C is you. This is about A trusting B to provide you with the media in a way that you can't copy digitally.
Anything that can be listened to can be copied, and it only takes one technically savvy person to circumvenct it once, and the whole world can get it.
You clearly don't understand technology behind DRM. DRM that actually works is based on cryptographic chains of trust, all the way from the media to the OS kernel, the driver and the hardware. Each has to be signed by an entity that the media-provider trusts for the media to be shown. These chains are very secure, and it's pretty easy to derive a mathematical proof that you can't break this, unless you break the encryption-scheme behind it. And that, while not prooveable, is most likely impossible (as is 30 years of the best brains trying very hard).
DRM is not bad as such. The way the music- and movie industries are using it is bad, and this is because no open industrywide standard is available. iTunes is great, beacuse between your PC and iPod and burning a CD, everything Just Works(tm). Why send a file to your friend? He can just download it from iTunes himself. It's just not great for those of us not running Windows or MacOS.
The DRM schemes that has been broken were, well already broken by design. That just goes to prove that security through obscurity is not really security. The latest versions of the Windows Media format hasn't been broken - it has just been captured at the display driver level. And that's just because Microsoft can't suddently demand all display drivers to be signed.
This could be a great boost to smaller compiere ERP solutions. This is a cool GPL ERP system, but it runs exclusively on Oracle. Different portings projects is in place, all very interesting, but not production quality yet. The catch is that a lot of the system is in stored procedures etc. Convincing a business to cough up the high price for an Oracle license to use an unknown, yet brilliant ERP solution, is tough.. This will allow us to set up Compiere for a business for the price of the hardware and consulting (much easier), and then, when they hit the 4 gb data, 1 gb ram or 1 cpu limits, the price of an oracle license is more reasonable. Yeah, it would be nicer if it ran off of PostgreSQL or Firebrid, but it doesn't.
Because you want the victim to actually recieve the letter, activate the card and not be suspicious. Otherwise you'll just have the PIN of an inactive credit card, which is worth squat/zip/nada.
Mailing the PIN and relying on that it will arrive unread is an important part of the chain of trust on credit cards.
The vodka I keep in my freezer at -18C (or at least I hope so, that chicken did taste odd) becomes rather thick at that temp. Good for vodka, bad for optical hardware (I'd think).
No technology that was the size of film photography ever, ever went away completely. LPs were "killed" by CDs, yet enthusiats and some DJs are still using them for various properties - including superior sound - that the CD don't hold. But for the vast majority of music listeners, who were playing thier LPs on a $150 stereo and never cleaning the pickup, CDs are better. Same thing goes for photography. Some enthusiasts and artists will keep on using film, although probably not 35mm. The rest of us will be using digital.
A big European ISP like Demon only has 2Gbps going into the LINX.. enough for, wow, 20 customers to max out their bandwidth.
Yeah, there is a 50 times wider band. This means that those 20 customers will also be finished 50 times faster, freeing up bandwidth for the next batch of 20 customers.
Point: For the same content, nothing changes. Some customers will just have their content served faster. Just because your network is 50 times faster, you're not going to view 50 times more pages on CNN.com.
For new content, well, yes, new servers on new bandwidth will be needed. That's the same story as always.
Famous computer visionary Nicholas Negroponte of the MIT Media Lab is developing and promoting a $100 laptop with proposed specifications including a 500-MHz processor, 1 GB of memory, an XVGA display, and free Linux. He envisions 200,000,000 million of them being distributed to countries like China in two years.
That's 200.000 billion. With about 1 billion people currently living in China, that's 200.000 laptops each. Allowing for you know, like, supply and demand to kick in, that will level out to about 30.000 laptops to each of 6 billion people on earth.
Now, I can't decide: should the joke be about the inherent need of IPv6 or (ooh) a beowolf cluster of these? Sweeeet..
And who will shell out the $20 million billion these things will cost?
Ah, the joy of an extra factor 10^6 here and there...
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The aim is to combat the use of DVR devices, like Tivo, to skip advertising by introducing interactivity
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Really? Because it really, really looks like the aim is to do something new and fancy and as a result get some editorial publicity for free. And it works
Would you mind accommodating your +1 Insightful and tell the world why?
The same reason that MySQL is crap, because you really, really need stored procedures, views and transactions to keep track of 20.000 messages in 1.500 threads?
The same reason that Java sucks for everything, always and C never does?
The same reason that compiled languages are always better than interpreted ones?
Of course, that reason I'm referring to is arrogance.
Don't get me wrong. I'm actually halfway to a MSc in Computer Science, and frequently have my ego challenged by kids and their flash 'applications', drag'n'drop VB crap and funny web apps that trust me to let it pass critical information in the URL.. These kids tend to think that I'm learning useless crap because they already know. Naturally I'm all warm inside when I get to give their 'application' 500% speedup by adding an index to a table.
But what makes PHP itself unsecure? Yes, PHP wants to be proporly configured. And if you let 50 kids run amok on the same server, sure they'll fuck something up (though never outside of the PHP user).
Now imagine a production webserver, to where only qualified developers has access, and only tested PHP code is put on. Works for me, has for a long time.
Oh, and concluding that all PHP is paint by numbers because it's a scripting language is just ignorant.
#include stdio.h anyone? Not enough of a real man to write your own IO routines, so you're stuck with gluing together libc stuff "in a paint-by-numbers style"? bah..
This is an old thread now, but I've been away for a few days..e bafca8c851ede6bce856f7b8b67cb8a&menu=4 (damn frames).
.. at .. biplane .. dk if you want more help..
The link was meant to be http://www.hosteurope.de/main.php4?func=&session=
It's a dedicated Dell P4.. Nothing fancy (the 99 one, anyway), but the bandwidth !!
The servers start at the "M" SLA, which gives you access to a shared 100 mbit backbone. For 100/month extra you get dedicated 100mbit (and Dell gold support), and for 300 extra you get a redundant backbone (and more..).
Send me an email at martin
I can chug through $100 of bandwidth a day sometimes (at $.50/GB) and i just run a few small websites.
. Two of those and you're in business for something like 2/30 of the price.
Well, you're not exactly making life easyer on yourself, are you?
It's German, but they're good: http://www.hosteurope.de/index.php4
Yup, 5.000 GB/month for 99 euro. http://www.google.com/search?q=99+euro+in+dollars
Why the *** was that modded funny?
Just because some corporations hate their customers doesn't mean that Doing Good(tm) and commercial interests can't overlap.
Matter of fact, that pretty much what makes capitalism works.
I don't want everybody to sue all the time. I want 10.000 consumers to sue about 12 times.
The carpet analogy was just me being cute, I know it's invalid. My point is that the right to backup is quite new and is so convenient that it appears to be made up for the sole purpose of being an argument in this discussion.
Just because we suddently have a kind of media that is digital, why should we necessarily have the right to back it up? LPs, tapes, videos - these are media that actually deteriorates from being used - yet no great demand for backups was ever voiced. Rather, people took care of their stuff and accepted the fact that they would need to buy new copies if they ruined the old ones.
Oh, and if the DRM was implemented properly, there should be no problem backing stuff up. It will just be encrypted. The key to the media is kept with the media-provider, out of the way of children and guests.
I don't know about the transfer of media, I didn't really consider that. I could imagine that media-providers wouldn't want that. But they will have to allow you to dispose of a player and keep your media, otherwise they can't make new ones with better features and hope to sell them.
If they build in a permanent key, then it's 100% crackable.
There are ways to do this. DRM works by controlling the full path from media to hardware, because the media *will* be decrypted, and you wouldn't want to expose this data. Usually you will get a key with limitations in it, such as expiry-date, player-ID etc. - now, if these are removed, the key will be global and permanent.
Just like everyone's suing Sony about the DRM rootkit damage?
The Sony rootkit is relatively obscure. 50.000 normal users wrongfully tagged as pirates aren't. Which is my point. These are flaws that will affect the masses, and thus the class-action litigators.
- Then, when you want to watch one, the disc authentication servers are down
- Or your network connection is down
Perhaps they will design the system so that it only needs to talk to the servers once every week or such. You know, rootkit aside, Sony has been known to put out technologically sound solutions.
- Or, the company goes out of business or "end of lifes" your movies -now half your collection is unplayable.
Usually, the rights to digital assets are worth money, and thus sought liquidated. Now company B owns the rights to the movies, and you and everybody else sues. In the unlikely case that the media is abandoned, a key is provided to permanently unlock all the discs.
- You put in a scratched disc, and the player's broken firmware reports you're a pirate. The server disables your player.
You sue the company.
- You've had a flood, fire, and one of your players was stolen. Whoops, that's too many player units for your "consumer discs." All your discs won't play anymore.
Obviously a mechanism for dis-owning a player would be needed. People has been known to sell used players, have then stolen etc. Since the players need to be online, this information can be transfered to the player.
- You have no way to protect your investment against disasters - no way to backup the data you paid for. Do no underestimate this! Especially if you have your collection in an area with lots of guests or kids.
I have no way to protect my investment in flooring and carpets agains guests or kids, either.
- Disney wants to release another "lion king" in Super Remastered Ultra Uncut editions. They disable all their old discs, so you can't show your kid the Lion King when he asks you to unless you go out and buy the new one.
So you sue Disney, since this is not in accordance with the terms under which you entered the agreement to buy the disc.
- Sony decides it's costing them too much money to run the DRM authentication servers. They decide to charge all users $15/mo. If you don't you can't play any of your discs.
This is a reasonable concern. Although, I think it's going to be that way from the beginning and be more like $30/year.
We, the geeks, are annoyed by DRM now, because we can't play WMA9 on Linux, can't use it on our portable players etc. But it actually work pretty good for the majority of users. They are happy that they can shop music online and play it on the computer and burn it to a CD.
But all of these points will potentially affect every consumer, and not just us geeks. Do not underestimate the power of pissing off all of your customers.
That's just stupid.
I don't frequently have my laptop on for "less than an hour" without using it. When do they suppose the mouse should recharge?
This isn't a laptop, it's a desktop replacement.
How do you figure that? You point out the lack of RAM and monitor yourself? Sure, a 100 GB disk is a lot (didn't know that 2.5" went that high), but the rest is pretty standard for a laptop. 512 MB RAM is not enough if you ever come near, say, the Eclipse IDE. The fact that the optical drive reads and writes pretty much everything that size and shape of a CD is just a question of a chip and a laser-LED (which are just more expensive, not heavier or more powerconsuming). WiFi and Bluetooth - wouldn't wanna buy a laptop without it. 2 kg? Pretty damn light.
Anyway, I have a ThinkPad T43, it has pretty much the same specs (although 1 GB RAM and a 1400*1040 px monitor - and, obviously, no Yonah, but a Pentium M 2 ghz processor). It weighs 2.2 kg, runs Linux with no problems and is well beneath $2000.
Is it a desktop replacement? I use it as my primary PC, but that is mainly due to the fact that I spend 80% at my working time at three different locations (home, work, university), and the other 20% at completely random locations (customers, friends, ??), so stationary desktop computers are not really a feasible option. But still, for any kind of CPU intensive work, I ssh to bigger machines.
Google does that, too. A few years ago I was at a McDonald's with a friend and this 80s song came on.n +understand+it
We started to talk about it, and decided we wanted know what it was. So we picked out a couple of words, "someones son" and "understand it", and typed that into Google later that day: http://www.google.com/search?q=lyrics+someones+so
And then we found out. No special service, just the mother of all knowledge.
(this was in the day and age of Napster, so a few more minutes later we were able to get audible confirmation that we'd found the right song)
Haha! Two comments and already the server is not responding. They must be running Debian on that thing, *LOL*
(yes, I'm kidding)
(We'll ignore the heat from the water which radiates through the heater; the energy loss from the hot water will occur with both conventional and microwave heaters.)
That's not a very good idea.
The radiation heat from a waterheater is very much significant. It is minimal in the mentioned setup because the water is not heated before it is needed. It may be much less efficient watt-by-watt if you use a lot of hot water around the clock - but in a typical residential setting where you only need hot water a few times a day - but need it immediately - the microwave solution could prove to be very efficient.
If you go heat up the exact amount of water you need, right when you need it, and is prepared to wait a bit for it, the electrical solution is likely the more efficent.
[...] Scientific Linux (which doesn't seem to get any play time on /.)
Well, rule number one of PR: Tell us what you do.
I spend more than sixty seconds on the SL.org website and I still don't know what SL will give me over a Debian.
I do, however, know that its appreviation is SL and it is build on Enterprise Linux - which is another distribution I have no knowledge of.
Be willing to sign your emails with a certificate from a recognized CA (outside Nigeria, even Africa). That should take the edge of the suspicion.
So? How much memory bandwidth do they have? Not I/O bandwidth, but memory bandwidth. I highly doubt that they have as much bandwidth PER CORE as the Opterons do, and in big applications, memory bandwidth can be a very important factor.
The Niagara has four 144-bit interfaces.
The Opterons (Both single- and dualcores) has two 72 bit interfaces.
The Crays are not just about memory bandwidth, but also alot about an efficent interconnect.
No. A and B are media provider and your hardware, respectively. C is you. This is about A trusting B to provide you with the media in a way that you can't copy digitally.
Anything that can be listened to can be copied, and it only takes one technically savvy person to circumvenct it once, and the whole world can get it.
You clearly don't understand technology behind DRM. DRM that actually works is based on cryptographic chains of trust, all the way from the media to the OS kernel, the driver and the hardware. Each has to be signed by an entity that the media-provider trusts for the media to be shown.
These chains are very secure, and it's pretty easy to derive a mathematical proof that you can't break this, unless you break the encryption-scheme behind it. And that, while not prooveable, is most likely impossible (as is 30 years of the best brains trying very hard).
DRM is not bad as such. The way the music- and movie industries are using it is bad, and this is because no open industrywide standard is available. iTunes is great, beacuse between your PC and iPod and burning a CD, everything Just Works(tm). Why send a file to your friend? He can just download it from iTunes himself.
It's just not great for those of us not running Windows or MacOS.
The DRM schemes that has been broken were, well already broken by design. That just goes to prove that security through obscurity is not really security. The latest versions of the Windows Media format hasn't been broken - it has just been captured at the display driver level. And that's just because Microsoft can't suddently demand all display drivers to be signed.
This could be a great boost to smaller compiere ERP solutions. This is a cool GPL ERP system, but it runs exclusively on Oracle. Different portings projects is in place, all very interesting, but not production quality yet. The catch is that a lot of the system is in stored procedures etc.
Convincing a business to cough up the high price for an Oracle license to use an unknown, yet brilliant ERP solution, is tough..
This will allow us to set up Compiere for a business for the price of the hardware and consulting (much easier), and then, when they hit the 4 gb data, 1 gb ram or 1 cpu limits, the price of an oracle license is more reasonable.
Yeah, it would be nicer if it ran off of PostgreSQL or Firebrid, but it doesn't.
At that point, why not open it?
Because you want the victim to actually recieve the letter, activate the card and not be suspicious. Otherwise you'll just have the PIN of an inactive credit card, which is worth squat/zip/nada.
Mailing the PIN and relying on that it will arrive unread is an important part of the chain of trust on credit cards.
The vodka I keep in my freezer at -18C (or at least I hope so, that chicken did taste odd) becomes rather thick at that temp. Good for vodka, bad for optical hardware (I'd think).
No technology that was the size of film photography ever, ever went away completely.
LPs were "killed" by CDs, yet enthusiats and some DJs are still using them for various properties - including superior sound - that the CD don't hold.
But for the vast majority of music listeners, who were playing thier LPs on a $150 stereo and never cleaning the pickup, CDs are better.
Same thing goes for photography. Some enthusiasts and artists will keep on using film, although probably not 35mm. The rest of us will be using digital.
A big European ISP like Demon only has 2Gbps going into the LINX.. enough for, wow, 20 customers to max out their bandwidth.
Yeah, there is a 50 times wider band. This means that those 20 customers will also be finished 50 times faster, freeing up bandwidth for the next batch of 20 customers.
Point: For the same content, nothing changes. Some customers will just have their content served faster. Just because your network is 50 times faster, you're not going to view 50 times more pages on CNN.com.
For new content, well, yes, new servers on new bandwidth will be needed. That's the same story as always.
Using that logic it would be NaN million, since there can never be more than one decimal point in a number, and thus, 200,000,000 wouldn't parse.
Famous computer visionary Nicholas Negroponte of the MIT Media Lab is developing and promoting a $100 laptop with proposed specifications including a 500-MHz processor, 1 GB of memory, an XVGA display, and free Linux. He envisions 200,000,000 million of them being distributed to countries like China in two years.
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That's 200.000 billion. With about 1 billion people currently living in China, that's 200.000 laptops each. Allowing for you know, like, supply and demand to kick in, that will level out to about 30.000 laptops to each of 6 billion people on earth.
Now, I can't decide: should the joke be about the inherent need of IPv6 or (ooh) a beowolf cluster of these? Sweeeet
And who will shell out the $20 million billion these things will cost?
Ah, the joy of an extra factor 10^6 here and there