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Interactive Commercial Utilizes Tivo Features

scrow writes "Marketing officers at Kentucky Fried Chicken's Yum! Brands Inc. have developed a commercial containing a hidden message for the viewers to find using their DVR systems. The aim is to combat the use of DVR devices, like Tivo, to skip advertising by introducing interactivity."

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  1. interactivity? by lonasindi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    if I want interactive, I use the computer.
    On the rare occasion I watch TV, I don't want to like, interact with the commercials. that's stupid.

    1. Re:interactivity? by LordNightwalker · · Score: 2, Informative

      My thoughts exactly: why the hell would I want to get interactive with a commercial for some 99 cent burger? If I can afford a tivo, I surely can afford better food than that... Offer me a coupon for a free Mercedes, and you might get my attention.

      Commercials ruin the whole TV experience for me. I watched Firefly from DVDs I borrowed from a friend, and I enjoyed it tremendously. The DVDs are already on my to-buy list as soon as I can spot them in a store nearby. They recently started airing them in my country though, and they're interrupted twice for commercials. Those commercials ruin the whole pacing of the episode, and leave me in a state of confusion as soon as the show resumes because by then I'll have forgotten some of the subtle stuff that happened because I was distracted by the commercials, and I'll need a couple of minutes to get back into the show. Imagine how much worse it would be if I actually had to interact with the damn commercials in between, completely ruining my concentration. Heck, stuff that burger where the damn sun don't shine; I'll happily skip past commercials whenever I get the chance.

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    2. Re:interactivity? by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      I agree but I'm glad to see the ad companies making some effort to adapt rather than just blindly kill off new technology.

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    3. Re:interactivity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Firefly... subtle?

      You blatantly conform. You disguise your insecurity poorly. You use geek buzzwords and memes:

      -tivo (+2)
      -Firefly (+5, level up)
      -borrowed but intend to buy (+1)
      -hate commercials (+1)
      -rarely watch television (+2)

      Your SN smacks of idolatry and has homoerotic subtext. You're barely holding it together. You're an elitist who uses money to compensate for his small penis. Hence the Mercedes.

    4. Re:interactivity? by Mancat · · Score: 1

      yeah. like, that's totally stupid and whatever. for sure.

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    5. Re:interactivity? by ACME+Septic · · Score: 1

      If I can afford a tivo, I surely can afford better food than that... Offer me a coupon for a free Mercedes, and you might get my attention.

      Commercials ruin the whole TV experience for me. I watched Firefly from DVDs I borrowed from a friend


      Let me get this straight.

      You're mister "I'm above a free burger, I can afford a TiVo..." yet you're borrowing a DVD from a friend and it's on your "to-buy list."

      Give me a break.

      On top of that, most people that have DVRs nowadays are those that rent them for $5 a month from their cable provider. A free box o'chicken is worth the hassle.

    6. Re:interactivity? by TDyl · · Score: 1

      Watch a few seconds of slo-mo video-taped advert for a 99 cent piece of dead chicken? Good God corporate america really have your countrymen sussed don't they.

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    7. Re:interactivity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Those commercials... leave me in a state of confusion as soon as the show resumes because by then I'll have forgotten some of the subtle stuff that happened because I was distracted by the commercials, and I'll need a couple of minutes to get back into the show.

      Are you sure you're strong enough to watch television in your frail and wasted state? Perhaps you should work your way up to tv from something less challenging. Why not start with a pamphlet or tract and then, if there's no nausea or bright flashes, try watching your aquarium for a while. You keep watching tv and you're just going to hurt yourself.

    8. Re:interactivity? by IdleTime · · Score: 1

      Well, that is all fine and dandy if you want to play 1337 on /.

      I personally enjoy TV and have invested heavily to get a best possible experience.. DVR's changed my viewing habits to the point where the only TV I watch, are programs that I have recorded (except news and sports that is).

      Skipping through commercials does the following:
      - Save you time (Watched A Bridge Too Far and it contained almost 1 hour of commercials)
      - Almost avoid interrupts in the show
      - Advertisers will still get their message across. Even when skipping the commercials, I can still tell what the commercial is all about and from whom, so I don't think the effect of the commercial disappears, it's just that I don't have to watch the 99.999999% totally idiotic and completely false commercials.

      I suggest "terror" attacks on the idiots that create TV commercials. They must be the most IQ challenged people found on the planet.

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    9. Re:interactivity? by jheath314 · · Score: 1

      Me too.

      Instead of making everyone pissed off by trying to legislate technology to be unable to skip commercials, they should focus on trying to make commercials people would want to watch. IMO this interactivity idea isn't a half bad start... it even piqued my interest.

      OT: it's the same with almost any technology... the carrot is a great deal more effective than the stick, and causes much less resentment. For example, RFID tags in passports: instead of making them mandatory, they could offer incentives to those who sign up, such as getting through customs 10x faster. They'd probably get almost total voluntary compliance, and people would think they're the ones getting a good deal. /off topic.

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    10. Re:interactivity? by LordNightwalker · · Score: 1

      I don't own a tivo; I live in Belgium, we don't have tivo. I do however have a tuner card in the PC, pay for cable and barely watch it (haven't seen TV at my place in like 2 months). But yes, I can afford better food than some junk burger. Like stuff I cook myself.

      And on the subject of Firefly: I just haven't seen it in stores yet. I don't shop much, except for food. The supermarket is next to the building I live in; the record shop is on the other side of town. The online record shop I order from didn't carry Firefly nor Serenity last time I checked. So what? You gonna sue me for being lazy?

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    11. Re:interactivity? by instarx · · Score: 1

      "They recently started airing them in my country, ...[they] leave me in a state of confusion as soon as the show resumes because by then I'll have forgotten some of the subtle stuff that happened because I was distracted by the commercials, and I'll need a couple of minutes to get back into the show."

      Whatever country you're in, you clearly have a lot to learn. You don't actually think you're supposed to WATCH the things, do you?

  2. Can someone please post the code? by SengirV · · Score: 3, Funny

    So I don't have to actually watch the comercial.

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    1. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buffalo

    2. Re:Can someone please post the code? by eln · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, the prize is a Buffalo Snacker Chicken Sandwich. For your own safety, I can't give you the code.

    3. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Mrcowcow · · Score: 1

      Why ruin the suprice? Just go to KFC's website, watch the video, then go back and try to pause with when they show the code. It only took me a few minutes, and now I have a coupon for a free Buffalo Snacker coming in the mail. I can't wait until it comes, free food!

    4. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your name, address, telephone number, and email address should be worth more then 99c.

      You agreed to this: (8) in general to promote and market our and our Affiliates' various businesses and products to you. These solicitations may take the form of mailings via U.S. mail or other couriers, telephone calls, e-mail solicitations and other methods of contact.

      Phone spam, snail spam, spam spam, Kentucky Fried Spam.

    5. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks! I didn't know that the famous picture is only one of a series.

      Asshole.

      *snicker*

    6. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Sporkinum · · Score: 1

      buffalo is the code

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    7. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent is yet another lame ass goatse troll.

    8. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Disperz · · Score: 1

      You don't even need to enter the code. Direct link: http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp>

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    9. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phone spam, snail spam, spam spam, Kentucky Fried Spam.

      Green eggs and spam?

    10. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD PARENT UP (FUNNY)

    11. Re:Can someone please post the code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Always be sure to drink your Ovaltine.

    12. Re:Can someone please post the code? by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      So use mailinator and give a fake phone number (pick some fax machine at work or something). Every once in a while you'll get something in the mail, which they had to pay to send you. That's worth 99 cents in my book. Throwing away snail mail is easy.

    13. Re:Can someone please post the code? by qzulla · · Score: 1

      Sure! Why not? It is worth a buck to give them my life history.

      qz

    14. Re:Can someone please post the code? by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      Mrcowcow seems to have a weak spot for free ipods too.

  3. Oblig Profit! by rob_squared · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Excellent idea

    1. Make ads for TV
    2. Slowly make them more annoying
    3. Discover that people are avoiding your ads like the plague
    4. Try to subvert to force said people to watch your ads
    5. ???
    6. Profit!

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    1. Re:Oblig Profit! by Vellmont · · Score: 3, Interesting


      5. ???

      People buy the product? Not everything is a dot com business model you know. I think the plan is pretty smart. It got some free advertising on Slashdot. Maybe other companies will start hiding things (like details for entering a sweepstakes) in commercials.

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    2. Re:Oblig Profit! by neuroticia · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slowing them down not only makes them more annoying, but it also ensures that your message DOES NOT get across. What is advertising? It's a carefully planned message-in-motion at approximately 15-60fps. Having someone step through it frame-by-frame to look for a coupon does *NOT* make them recepients of your message. If they wanted to capture someone's attention they should just throw up the coupon, and freeze there for the whole 15-30 second spot. Static image. Can you imagine? People would be going nuts trying to figure out if their TV was broken. :p

    3. Re:Oblig Profit! by jimicus · · Score: 1

      People buy the product?

      You know, I would generally reckon that if someone goes to the trouble of consciously not watching ad breaks, chances are they're not all that interested in buying something that's advertised. Therefore, all you're doing by trying to subvert this is pissing money down the loo.

      But, what do I know? IANAMB (marketing bunny)

    4. Re:Oblig Profit! by IWorkForMorons · · Score: 1

      Hey...I'll take making commercials interactive to intice me to watch them, then making laws that force me to watch them.

    5. Re:Oblig Profit! by AeroIllini · · Score: 1

      If they wanted to capture someone's attention they should just throw up the coupon, and freeze there for the whole 15-30 second spot. Static image. Can you imagine? People would be going nuts trying to figure out if their TV was broken.

      That's a fantastic idea. Commercials usually subscribe to the idea that they need to be louder, faster, and more blaring in order to get your attention. Ever notice how the volume during commercials is much louder than during the shows? And the shows themselves are cranked up to peak levels ... there's no such thing as dynamic range in a television audio stream.

      But the advertisers could use that noisy, blaring environment to their advantage. When all you hear is constant noise, nothing will get your attention like prolonged silence.

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    6. Re:Oblig Profit! by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      chances are they're not all that interested in buying something that's advertised.


      Oh I disagree. Advertising doesn't work on a completely rational level. One of the goals of advertising is simple familiarity. I.e. when you're look at the supermarket of different brands of Salsa to buy , the advertised product it isn't strange and foreign. Another goal of advertising is association. If an advertiser can associate the product with something good, you'll be more likely to buy it.

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    7. Re:Oblig Profit! by neuroticia · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, as a result of the blaring- most people mute their TV during commercials. Interesting idea, though.

  4. A few things by WeatherMatt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Number one, they forget that not everyone owns a DVR to play back the commercial in slow-motion to even get the code. Number two, people don't watch commercials for gimmicky promotions. Why do so many people watch the Super Bowl for the ads rather than the game? Because the ads are enjoyable/entertaining in some way. Make them funny, and people will watch. While this doesn't guarantee people buying your product (which is what KFC is after) this does get them watching. I personally don't agree with how KFC is going about this. Why not just let the code be plainly visible rather than viewable only to the segment of the populace that has special equipment?

    1. Re:A few things by eln · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The people who don't have DVRs will just be forced to watch the commercial just like they always have. Sure, they won't get the promotion, but they'll still see a (hopefully effective) commercial. It's not like KFC is just going to show 30 seconds of a blank screen with one or two frames relevant to DVR owners.

      This is designed to entice people who ordinarily skip over commercials to actually watch them. TV commercials are all about creating brand awareness. If you don't have a DVR, you become aware of the brand by being forced to sit through their commercials. If you do have a DVR, presumably you need some sort of extra incentive (like a chance at a free sandwich) to watch the commercial.

    2. Re:A few things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't "forget" that not everyone owns a DVR. It's not as though this is a DVR-only advertisement. It works just fine without one. The whole point, really, is to get people with a DVR watching the commercial -- the rest of us schlubs can't fast forward through them so we're going to be watching (at least some of us) anyway.

      In addition, you're assuming that everybody is like you. There are people who will do exactly what KFC wants them to do. In addition, they're getting more advertising even if people don't look for the code. You're talking about KFC. I'm talking about KFC. Slashdot and CNN are talking about KFC. That's good for them.

    3. Re:A few things by Abm0raz · · Score: 1

      Why do so many people watch the Super Bowl for the ads rather than the game? Because the ads are enjoyable/entertaining in some way. Make them funny, and people will watch.

      I've actually started buying Emerald Nuts cause they're commercials are hilarious. Anytime me and my housemates see a new one, we try and guess what the acronym will mean this time. My personal favorite to date is the "Engrossed Manacurists Eventually Relay Advice Like 'Do Not Untie That String'"

      -Ab

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    4. Re:A few things by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      I think you are seeing a very different kind of commercial than airs here... All of the Emerald Nuts commercials I have seen just end with "E_____ N_____s love Emerald Nuts".

    5. Re:A few things by WeatherMatt · · Score: 1

      I just don't see the point of making the promotion flash for a few frames and that's it. Why make it DVR exclusive? If the purpose is to make people who don't normally watch commercials watch, they aren't hitting the right target of people. People without DVR's can ignore commercials just as well as people with them do - they can leave the room to get food, go do some random small chore, etc.

      Plus, even if you don't actually try to get the code with your TiVo, there are many many ways to get it - like look at this thread for the 6 people that have posted it, ask a friend, etc. etc. If you really want a $.99 sandwich, you can get it in other ways.

      I'm not completely against KFC and what they are doing, I just think it's done in the wrong way. What's wrong with just putting the word normally? I also know that another point is to create brand recognition, which they seem to be doing quite nicely (despite all the website problems they've been having with age and whatnot).

    6. Re:A few things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Granted I've never watched the Superbowl but from what I understand companies create one-time, unique ads that air just during the Superbowl which is exactly what is missing from the rest of TV commercials.

      I understand that commercials are to some extent a necessary evil and I can tolerate them because of that. What I absolutely can't tolerate is seeing the same horrible commercial 500 times over the course of a single week.

      I'm not sure who came up with the idea of trying to numb people by showing the same commercial non-stop but instead of brand awareness it creates a brand hate with me personally. If some company wastes hours of my life subjecting me to the exact same thing on every commercial break then the absolute last thing I want to do is reward them by buying their products.

    7. Re:A few things by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not completely against KFC and what they are doing, I just think it's done in the wrong way. What's wrong with just putting the word normally? I also know that another point is to create brand recognition, which they seem to be doing quite nicely (despite all the website problems they've been having with age and whatnot).

      Eh, whatever. It's a gimmick. It got the company some free publicity in Slashdot. It got some people talking about the company. I wouldn't expect it to become a big thing, but it'll probably be successful at least this once.

      Yeah, some people are getting the code off of Slashdot. Does that mean the commercial failed? On the contrary. The gimmick probably got at least one Slashdotter to buy a KFC sandwich when they otherwise wouldn't have, without even watching the commercial.

      If they just put in the word normally, they wouldn't have gotten this story in Slashdot or any of the other places the story has run. Good for them.

    8. Re:A few things by Abm0raz · · Score: 1

      Here's the one that aired during the superbowl. That's when thye switched from "E____ N_____'s love Emerald Nuts" to the "E___ M____ E____ R____ A____ L____ D____ N____ U____ T____ S____" format.

      -Ab

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    9. Re:A few things by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Because they know that PVR owners will skip the ad otherwise. If they do this, they'll slow motion through it to get their free burger.

      And all the cheats are just gravy too. They've got people who normally go to great trouble to ignore them instead going to a bit of trouble to pay attention.

      If I were them, I'd make the PVR dudes bark for a dollar into an automated bark recognition phone number hidden in the freeze frame

      Automated Bark Recognition system: Welcome to KFC's secret bark for a dollar system. Will you bark for a dollar. C'mon, all you gotta do is bark for a dollar.
      Caller. Arf
      ABRS: I can't hear you. C'mon bark for a dollar. BARK FOR A DOLLAR!
      Caller. ARF! WOOF! ARF! WOOF!
      ABRS: Good dog! Please speak you name and address now.

      but then I had a shitty childhood.

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    10. Re:A few things by onrop · · Score: 1
      Why do so many people watch the Super Bowl for the ads rather than the game? Because the ads are enjoyable/entertaining in some way. Make them funny, and people will watch.
      While I don't disagree with you...I fast-forward through the Super Bowl so I can watch the commercials...I think you (along with most people, including advertisers) miss one really big point. People want to skip commercials because we're sick of seeing them over and over and over and over.

      Heck, take one TV show's worth of commercial breaks as an example. In a 30 minute show, that's usually 3 breaks. Your bigger advertisers will have the same commercial in ALL 3 BREAKS! Why do I need to see the same Pantene commercial 3 times in 1/2 hour. And more if I watch TV for more than 30 minutes!

      I think the bigger reason people watch the Super Bowl for the commercials is not just for the good ones, but because they are new. Think about it, would you watch the commercials during the Super Bowl if you knew that you had already seen all of them multiple times? Probably not.

      Personally, I would rather miss the occassional good commercial or hot promotional contest that I won't win anyway to be able to skip the same boring Chevy commercial that's aired for the 45th time tonight.

    11. Re:A few things by EuroMike · · Score: 1
      take one TV show's worth of commercial breaks as an example. In a 30 minute show, that's usually 3 breaks. Your bigger advertisers will have the same commercial in ALL 3 BREAKS! Why do I need to see the same Pantene commercial 3 times in 1/2 hour. And more if I watch TV for more than 30 minutes!
      Now you understand why we invented a thing called the licence fee :)

      Actually, the commercial channels over here are rapidly becoming like the commercial channels over in your part of the planet. Time was when a 30-minute show would have just one internal break on ITV (as it was then called - ah, the luxury of three channels) and an hour show would have two. The absolute maximum amount of time allowed for commercials was seven minutes, and the average over the whole day had to be no more than six. So you didn't see the same commercial too often. (also, they tended to be better quality ads back then, though this may be the Old Fogey (TM) effect kicking in)

      Now, things are different. Which is why I watch everything through the PVR these days. Which is why advertisers will have to do things like this to get our attention. Or make better ads.

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  5. Let's analyze this headline! by generic-man · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The headline as of this writing is "Interactive Commercial Utilizes Tivo Features."

    The commercial is not "Interactive" because you must watch it repeatedly. You don't interact with the commercial; you interact with the company by doing something indicated subliminably* in the commercial.

    The commercial does not "utilize Tivo features" -- the summary actually states that it is meant to prevent users from fast-forwarding through it by implying that intellligent users might find something of value if they analyze it diligently enough. There are commercials which "utilize Tivo features" by employing a "PRESS THUMBS UP TO RECEIVE MORE ADS" button; this is not one of them.

    Therefore, this article should be retitled "Commercial."

    * Real word

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    1. Re:Let's analyze this headline! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slow motion and pause are Tivo (and just about every other DVR) features. Therefore, it utilizes Tivo features. No, this article isn't just an ad. It's about a company actually trying to adapt to changing tech and viewership with something a little creative, not just getting more annoying. And if people DO find this feature annoying, well then they can simply not slow down the commercial and hit pause when the codeword comes up. It's one of the few opt-in commercial tactics I have seen. And the point isn't the codeword flashed by, the point is the buzz generated by some new technique. And finally, realize that you are contributing to the buzz by posting on here.

    2. Re:Let's analyze this headline! by diggitzz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, further, being forced to watch (or mute) a commercial doesn't make it interactive, just annoying. Maybe they mean "interactive" like, in that you have to go to extra lengths to remove the commercial from the video before you archive it. ;)

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    3. Re:Let's analyze this headline! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      subliminably*

      * Real word

      Not
    4. Re:Let's analyze this headline! by generic-man · · Score: 1

      I bet this commercial would work pretty well on an analog video recorder like my Sony Betamax recorder. Saying "Utilizes Tivo Features" is wrong not only because "TiVo" is miscapitalized but also because the term is used far too broadly in an attempt to be trendy.

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    5. Re:Let's analyze this headline! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Subliminably is a derivation from subliminable, which in turn is derived from subliminal. Hope thelps.

    6. Re:Let's analyze this headline! by smoker2 · · Score: 1
      subliminably*

      * Real word

      Err, no ...

      Try _Subliminally_

      "The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48"
      Subliminal Sub*lim"i*nal, a. Pref. sub- + L. limen
      threshold.
      1. (Philos.) Existing in the mind, but below the surface or
      threshold of consciousness; that is, existing as feeling
      rather than as clear ideas.
      Webster 1913 Suppl.

      2. having or using an intensity of sensory stimulus
      insufficient to be perceived consciously, but having an
      effect on unconscious mental processes; as, subliminal
      advertising.

      Note: The existence of such an effect is still not
      universally accepted.
      PJC
    7. Re:Let's analyze this headline! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      American Freedom Liberty Dictionary, 1st ed., D. Rumsfeld, ed.

      Sub*lim*in*a*bly, adv.

      In a manner perceived beneath the conscious.  Derived from subliminable[1], an accepted variant of "subliminal" introduced in 2000.  SEE ALSO subliminal.

  6. Thumbs up to KFC by athakur999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Instead of being lawsuit crazy and trying to get people to watch their commercials by force, they gives incentives for people to watch their commercials voluntarily. Wish more advertisers would take this approach instead of making their ads steadily more annoying and intrusive.

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    1. Re:Thumbs up to KFC by jleq · · Score: 1

      I agree with you 100%. I don't mind buying into marketing if it interests me. I'm sure, though, that there will be a flood of posts here to the tune of: "I NEVER LISTEN TO COMMERCIALS! MY CHILDREN AND I LIVE IN THE DARK, AND IF IT IS ADVERTISED, FUCK IT."

      I'm glad to see that KFC's marketing firm is taking a positive approach to the DVR situation as opposed to the usual bully approach.

    2. Re:Thumbs up to KFC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, because it keeps the advertisers happy in their delusion they have 'fixed' the ad skipping problem, the ad agencies still get their money and Tivo users can continue to skip the ads - everyone's happy.

    3. Re:Thumbs up to KFC by Martz · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but why would you *ever* want to buy into marketing if it interests you? Advertisements are aimed at markets/demographics to have the maximum effect. A generalised advert isn't going to get the same response if it tries to appeal to everyone. You are justifying being marketed too, because you are properly targeted and it works..?

      I think one of the biggest disgraces in advertising is how fast food establishments such as KFC and Mc Donalds aim their adverts specifically at childen, on certain TV channels at certain times of the day.

      Protecting yourself and your children from marketing is a good thing, and children especially are exceptionally vunerable to influence from people around them, their parents, teachers, other kids and other inputs in their environment such as TV. They are not kept in the dark, they shouldn't gain all of their worldly knowledge from paid-for-advertisements, and if anything they will benefit from being able to make rational and logical thoughts about products put infront of them - rather than depending on the blind faith of marketing people.

      To boost my karma, here is the obligatory Bill Hicks quote on marketing:

      By the way, if anyone here is in marketing or advertising...kill yourself. Thank you. Just planting seeds, planting seeds is all I'm doing. No joke here, really. Seriously, kill yourself, you have no rationalisation for what you do, you are Satan's little helpers. Kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself now. Now, back to the show. Seriously, I know the marketing people: 'There's gonna be a joke comin' up.' There's no fuckin' joke. Suck a tail pipe, hang yourself... borrow a pistol from an NRA buddy, do something...rid the world of your evil fuckin' presence.
      Bill Hicks
    4. Re:Thumbs up to KFC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, just wait until someone bittorrents the part of the commercial that contains the code; but either in slow motion, or as a screen capture. ;)

    5. Re:Thumbs up to KFC by SecretAsianMan · · Score: 1

      +1 Insightful to the parent

      Thank you, KFC, for getting it. When technology began to obsolete your marketing channel, you didn't legislate the continued existence of the marketing channel. Instead, you got smart people together to figure out a new way to market your product. You now understand what it takes to do marketing in a society of ubiquitous, ever-changing technology.

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    6. Re:Thumbs up to KFC by dashiznit · · Score: 1

      I guess that is fine for those who like commmercials. Alas I will fast forward through all that crap, because commercials really have a negative affect on me (often making me want to switch to a competitor that is not the advertiser wasting my time).

      If I'm not watching a TiVoed show, I have found that I can usually tune them out, just like tuning out distractions.

      The only exception is Super Bowl commercials. I mean they really try to entertain (though I hate them after about the second or third rerun).

      Did the advertisers ever think that maybe too many commercials are just desenitizing the public to make them really want to FF or ignore them?

      And don't even GET me started on the Olympics. I couldn't watch them without a TiVo.

      Thank you, TiVo for the clicka-Clicka-CLICKA (imitating the TiVo Fast Forward sound).

  7. Is this really a bad idea? by lokedhs · · Score: 1
    Not many comments yet, but most seem to be very negative of the idea.

    I wonder why. In fact, I think this is a great idea. It gives the consumer a chioce. Either he won't care one bit about this "interactive" commercial and keep fast-forwarding through them or he can get involved and watch the commercial thoroughly, adding value for himself as well as the supplier of the ad.

    This is the way a free market is supposed to work. If the consumer doesn't want to watch the commercials, add some value to them. No one is still not forcing you to watch the commercial.

    I definitiely prefer this to some other sceme where the cable companies block the fast-forward button during the commericals like they do on DVD's.

  8. Eh... by jargoone · · Score: 1

    Eh, it ain't that special. It's on the web, too. Go here: http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/. Enter "buffalo" in the text box. You'll get a coupon for a free one, in case you might actually eat it.

    Remember, Pamela Anderson is watching...

  9. That'll be the day... by shrapnull · · Score: 1

    Unless you unlock the "secret message" by hitting "SKIP", I'll never know the difference.

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    1. Re:That'll be the day... by shrapnull · · Score: 1

      Upon further reviewing my statement a sad realization occured to me. If they can't force people to watch the commercials with lame advertising contests, the only course of action will be to set 'product placement' at a premium. Imagine just before you find out 'who the killer is', the characters kick back and enjoy a refreshing bucket of KFC right in front of the cameras.

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    2. Re:That'll be the day... by phaggood · · Score: 1

      enjoy a refreshing bucket of KFC

      Refreshing? Are the show's actors making an Original or Extra-Crispy smoothie out of the Colonel's wares?

    3. Re:That'll be the day... by shawb · · Score: 1

      I'll just tell you so you don't have to watch the end: it was the colonel, in the study, with a secret blend of herbs and spices.

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  10. gread idea by ThinkOfaNumber · · Score: 1

    What a fantastic idea! It's good to see someone can think of new idea's (although the Simpsons et al have been doing the same thing for years, but it's not [usually] advertising...) instead of the usual advertisement tripe.

    [rant]
    I hate ads. I listen to radio stations that don't play ads, I mute the tv / change channel during the ads, I'll do anything to avoid them. If TV doesn't make you a zombie already, the ads do. Have you watched people watching ads? They just sit there with mouths open, staring.

    When I first subscribed to AUSTAR (Australian Pay TV over cable), they could fit 3 simpsons episodes in an hour, with the only ads being the station's "watch Austar" (uh, ok!). Now, there are more ads than free to air TV. Isn't this the reason I pay for it?

    We should be putting the same effort in getting rid of ads that we do to getting rid of spam, we're just numb to ads as a part of life...
    [/rant]

    I know I've contradicted myself in calling it a good idea and simultaneously hating ads, but oh well...

    1. Re:gread idea by Spacejock · · Score: 1

      I voted with my wallet a couple of years ago and cancelled Foxtel. Station promos, fair enough (and only between progs) but advertising? What exactly was I paying for? More content, yes, but also many more ads. Worse, they're very generic ads because it's one station for the whole country.

      The day I can pick hold of a remote and say 'I'm not interested in a new car, new home, feminine hygiene products, alcoholic beverages, non-alcoholic beverages, fast food, women's clothes, men's clothes, new watches, perfume, chocolate bars, after shave, etc, etc.' and have those ads suppressed, so much the better. In fact, give me opt in so I can pick out the ads which might conceivably be of interest to me - which is none.

      Thing is, I like to research products and make up my own mind. The only impulse buys I ever make are things marked down to silly prices which I happen to see when I'm out and about (e.g. a PCI parallel card reduced to $5 or something, or three DVDs I actually wouldn't mind watching for $8.99.) In other words, true bargains and not SPECIAL OFFERS HURRY HURRY BUY NOW! Let someone else pay full retail - I like a clearance bargain and they never advertise those ;-)

    2. Re:gread idea by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      The day I can pick hold of a remote and say 'I'm not interested in a new car, new home, feminine hygiene products, alcoholic beverages, non-alcoholic beverages, fast food, women's clothes, men's clothes, new watches, perfume, chocolate bars, after shave, etc, etc.'


      As nice as this would be, it is not going to happen. Marketers have this delusion that they are providing a service to society by "informing" us about new products.

      Mind you, from a capitalistic point of view, they are technically correct, but the ads continuously have less and less value to them. I don't actually mind ads that tell me about the product, but most ads are just BS.

      "Buy these shoes!"

      Ok, what material are they constructed out of? (Plastic) How long can I expect them to last? (About a month...) How much do they cost? ($100+usd)

      Hmm, maybe there is a reason that ads are devoid of information.

      I would love to see a bread ad on tv:

      "Our competitors shove high fructose corn syrup, fake maple coloring, and many other unnatural ingredients into their bread. Our bread, is made out of, bread."

      Sold.
  11. I have extracted the hidden message... by dcapel · · Score: 0, Troll
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  12. Brilliant by patrickclay · · Score: 1

    Will the advertisements have an effect on Tivo users? Who cares. I think the fact that KFC is trying an idea like this is getting a lot of great publicity. I mean... KFC on Slashdot? I think it's brilliant. Well done, Colonel!

  13. http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

    There, I saved you having to type BUFFALO at http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/

    1. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 1
      Browser Recommendations: Netscape Navigator 6.0+ and/or Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0+ are recommended to enter this portion of the site.

      Sorry, approximately 90% of /. cannot access this site. Please try again when they support Firefox, or Opera, or like, Konkerer.

    2. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How exactly is that MY fault?

    3. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It say RECOMMENDED, idiot! As long as cookies are turned on, no problem.

    4. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by Ark42 · · Score: 1

      Why do I just end up at http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/toyoung.asp no matter what I enter there, even if I delete all my cookies? Will somebody post a link to the actual coupon, because who knows how many other garbage questions they want us to fill out so they can spam us probably.

    5. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by MacDork · · Score: 1

      Yeah, ok, I went ahead and downloaded flash 8 anyway. Wanted to see how cleverly placed the hint happened to be... Anyway, now that I've entered Buffalo into the password field, I'm presented with check age. I enter the age in Omniweb with cookies and js on. Apparently, I'm to frickin' young, so I try Safari... Again, I'm under the age of 18 even though I was born in the 70's. Wow, great frickin' move KFC. I first have to download Flash 8 to watch, then enable cookies and js, then enter my age just to find out your website sucks and I don't get a free snacker coupon because I use a Mac. Great, thanks. Rounded out a perfect day there.

    6. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of Slashdot uses MSIE.

    7. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every time they release the browser statistics for this site the vast majority of people are using IE on Microsoft Windows.

    8. Re:http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp by qzulla · · Score: 1

      I got in with FF without a problem on my Mac.

      I don't want a free coupon but who tells the truth to these things? Let's see a show of hands....

      qz

  14. One Problem... by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 1
    "This is taking the exact opposition approach -- rewarding viewers for taking the time to engage and be interactive with television," said Tom O'Keefe, an executive at Foote Cone & Belding, the advertising agency that created the spot for KFC Corp.

    Yet another way in which televisions and all that profit from them are trying *desperately* to become the new interactive medium: GET REAL! People will not go to the trouble of recording a commerical in order to get a single coupon for something that costs $0.99 anyway. If it was a plasma tv, a laptop, something of *value* then people will jump through hoops to get it. Look at freepay.com, people will do all manner of things, even using their valuable sig space on /. but there is a major difference: These things (iPod, Laptop, PS3, etc) are actually worth the effort. If we wanted to play 'fun' games to gain miniscule rewards, we would already be playing an Xbox or PS2. You can get as many marketing guys from your company to say how great and revolutionary and wonderful and effective this is/will be, but it doesn't change the fact of the matter. This simply won't work.

  15. And the trick is... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    those who skip the commercials, get as punishment, an interactive listing of KFC's secret recipe! (eew)

  16. Dish Network is already doing this by keith134 · · Score: 1

    Dish Network has been putting hotlinks in some ads for awhile now. You watch the commercial, and a button pops up in the corner that says "press enter for more info" or something along those lines, and it takes you to an interactive page.

  17. Ok by jrsp · · Score: 1

    Make me WANT to watch your commercials and I might and I won't be pissed off doing so. Just don't MAKE me watch your commercials. Subtle difference, no?

    1. Re:Ok by Gibberx · · Score: 0

      Hard to tell which one of these your implying KFC does, but I would say this falls under "make me WANT to watch your commercials"... you can still skip them. Sorry if I misinterpreted. Damn text medium.

  18. The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by Animats · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "The prize is a coupon for KFC's new, sauce-drenched $0.99 Buffalo Snacker chicken sandwich."

    Big thrill.

    KFC is scary. The smallest dinner they sell is a reasonably-sized meal. Most of the meals they sell are far, far bigger. And I see "wide loads" in there buying entire buckets for themselves.

    1. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by t0rkm3 · · Score: 1

      Get a grip!

      I like KFC, especially after a 4hr workout throwing hammers and weights.

      I just had my BF% measured using water displacement at 12% at a bodyweight if 252lbs.

      Don't bitch even if you eat like one.

    2. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thor, is that you?

    3. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like KFC, especially after a 4hr workout throwing hammers and weights.

      Christ, what a life. I sympathize.

    4. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by symbolic · · Score: 1

      Body weight has nothing to with all the crap inside that food - like artery-clogging cholesterol and trans-fatty acids.

    5. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by merdark · · Score: 1

      Just because you are not fat, doesn't mean that crap is good for you. I go to the gym as well. I eat healthy. The last time I had KFC (years ago), I literally got ill from the amount of grease in it.

      But hey, if you want an early death... enjoy!

    6. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      just to throw two comments out 1 the equation is Input - burned = body if somebody is for whatever reason actually burning the fat/calories then it could be healthy for him (not to mention actually DANGEROUS to force a diet change (people go nuts for less (and this gentleman is 252 pounds and commonly throws weights and most likely can bench 3+his weight and posts on /.))) 2 is the Buffalo Snacker any good or is it the normal "i wish i was texas pete sauce"?

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    7. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by smoker2 · · Score: 1
      KFC will be fucked when bird flu virus H5N1 hits the US.

      I say skip the commercials and the damn "food" !

    8. Re:The prize is a 99-cent chicken sandwich. by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Are you kidding? All of their "combo meals" are tiny. Most of them are a sandwich of some sort, or 1 or 2 pieces of chicken, and come with side orders which are either something healthy and tiny, or a tiny little thing of french fries, along with a cute little soda. To give you an idea, the straw is usually more than 2x as tall as the cup. That's the standard meal. It closely resembles what most restaurants call "kids meals." In fact, if anything, I'd say KFC is the biggest ripoff if you're measuring in grams per dollar OR even just grams per standard meal.

      Sure, there are people who eat whole buckets of chicken, but those are the same people who would have eaten 10 double quarter pounders from McD, or 5 triple cheeseburgers from Wendy's. KFC provides as healthy a selection by default as any other fast food place, if not better. At least your choice is better than "fries or onion rings".

  19. New business idea! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    I'm going to catch these ads, retrieve the codes, and publish them to a web page that also serves up Google ads. They can get the codes without having to sift through the TiVo bs, and I'll get paid for the eyeballs. Thanks KFC!

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    1. Re:New business idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yea but now how do you feel about me blocking google ads ;o)

  20. That's nice... by IANAAC · · Score: 1
    I'll still pass. KFC is a multinational company. We all know them.

    Personally, I'd love to see more local companies doing something like this. At the multinational level, it's not needed.

  21. Ugh, the filth of advertising... by TheNoxx · · Score: 1

    Speaking just for myself here, I can't wait until media is completely consumer driven (such as on iTunes), and people can just drop a few bucks or subscribe to their favorite shows only. I swear, the more I have to deal with shows being monitored and censored by the advertising dollars backing it and the more I have to deal with poorly made products because of all the money thrown away on ads... just makes me sick.

    I don't need some executive in an office trying to tell me what I want to watch and his cronies telling me what I want to buy. Actually, this would be a great chance for the creators of Arrested Developement to keep their show on the air; offer it over iTunes as a subscription, or some other service. Fuck Fox and News Corps and their ad firm henchmen.

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  22. Commercials reason for being by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is not just to sell stuff. Commercials give the impression that the shows are only about entertainment, while the shows real purpose is advertising state social engineering goals; psychological training, etc. If commercials go away it makes the propaganda within television programming stand out.

  23. I'm all over this!! by brian0918 · · Score: 1

    I'm buying a DVR system tomorrow to take part in this exciting offer! I've heard that some have had difficulty hooking up their DVR systems, but it looks pretty simple to me. You just need the proper cables to connect to the... TV... oh crap... I NEED TO GET A TV!

    1. Re:I'm all over this!! by l3prador · · Score: 1

      Not really, just get a tuner card + MythTV...

  24. More content by Bombula · · Score: 1
    TV needs to take some lessons from advertising in other media. Now that TV no longer has a captive audience, there needs to be more innovative and entertaining content in their commercials. Think Burma Shave. If content spanned several ads with an evlolving storyline or some sequence of material, then people might actually be interested in following along. The idea of embedded puzzles isn't bad, but it doesn't have broad appeal - there will just be a small contingent of people interesting in cracking it, as we saw with BMW films a few years back.

    A better (as in more effective) approach would be to develop some characters and tell some funny little stories that actually have people compelled to see the next 'chapter' in the series. Infuriatingly catchy musical ditties are always a plus.

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  25. And the message... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The message is, of course, "Remember to drink your Ovaltine."

    1. Re:And the message... by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      Ovaltine? A crummy commercial? Son of a bitch!

  26. How is this news? by jbolden · · Score: 1

    I have a Tivo and I've gotten the "hit thumbs up for more info" type commercials for about a year now. Its actually pretty useful if you like a car you hit one button on your remote and you get a brochure. If you like a movie you can see an extended trailer....

    But how is this news?

  27. Interactive? by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

    Find the fried rat hiding in the chicken.

  28. Nice try, referral spam. by tmbg37 · · Score: 1

    Yes, people will do all manner of things, including tricking people to click on their referral links through subtle placement in their posts.

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  29. Just wait... by davidphogan74 · · Score: 1

    Soon TV networks will just start putting tickers over shows, to make sure you have to be present for the ads. Unless you Just Don't Look.

  30. whatever... by esmrg · · Score: 1

    ...happened to replayTV? oh wait... that name wasn't catchy enough for the target market.

  31. Thank You! by Y-Crate · · Score: 1

    Hats off to KFC and Yum Brands, this is a welcome alternative to the incredibly annoying trend of obvious product placement in film and television. Hopefully they will choose to pursue this on its own, as opposed to in conjunction with whatever placement strategy they may have.

    I don't mind when a character happens to pull a name-brand can of soda out of their fridge, or requests a specific kind of drink at a bar, etc. It prevents the awkward scenes in you see in 80s sitcoms where you always see someone drinking a pink can marked "Soda" or the classic situation when a character enters a bar and orders a "Beer". However, product placement has crossed the line into the writing space, where plots are engineered around products and it is always painfully obvious when this occurs, yet it keeps happening because companies feel their traditional means of advertising are drying up.

    1. Re:Thank You! by jawtheshark · · Score: 1
      the classic situation when a character enters a bar and orders a "Beer"

      Uhm, in my country, that's pretty much how you order a beer...

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  32. Too Young? by ahecht · · Score: 1

    When I enter the code on the site, it asks for my birthday. I enter it (I was born in 1984) and it gives me an error saying that I am too young and that I have to be over 18 to participate.

    Last time I checked, 2006-1984=22.

    1. Re:Too Young? by capecodcarl · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, it doesn't seem to like Mozilla at all. IE works fine to get past that point. No thanks, I'm not that interested in receiving your snail mail spam to lower myself to using IE on Winblows to get a free 99 cent sandwich. Hopefully no one is giving them legitimate information other than the address to get the coupon.

    2. Re:Too Young? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i had the same problem when i was applying for a credit card at the age of 19, i had to personally walk into the bank just to apply, wasted so much time.

      you would think that a BANK would have better math skills, but then of course this is the same bank that says that Opera doesn't have high enough security to browse their site so i guess it should be expected.

  33. Spend the efforts makng good commercials instead by SoCalDissident · · Score: 1

    You know, when someone makes a decent/funny/unique commerical, I find myself watching. Half the time, I see them on the internet before I see them on tv (take the VW unpimp my ride commercials), and if they're any good, I find myself actually saving them on the Tivo to show my friends....

  34. Re:Eh...22 isnt old enough! by geekylinuxkid · · Score: 1

    hmm. i filled out their site with my birthdate, or something similar, and according to them, being 22 is too young. i get this http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/toyoung.asp. It seems grammar is also a problem with KFC webmasters, in additon to basic math.

  35. Time expansion by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    Great, just what I need. I just want to timeshift my viewing, and they want to expand the time it takes to watch the show.

  36. You earned this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  37. Y2.1K by jfengel · · Score: 1

    Ah, the old Y2.1K problem. They've gone back to 2 digits years, and anything after '06 is treated as 2106. They figure you're -178 years old.

  38. I don't mind ads.. by Da+VinMan · · Score: 1

    ..the first time I see them. I might not mind watching them twice, even with a TiVo. But, I can not and WILL NOT sit there and be forced to watch time after time after time just to watch my programs of choice. Whatever KFC does, whatever any company does, if they annoy me I will not watch it.

    TiVo actually made TV good again for me. Previous to our purchase I had actually given up almost all TV. With TiVo, I regularly follow about 8 different series (which all have different seasons so it's not as much as it sounds like) along with the oddball documentary, etc.

    Advertisers listen: Stop being annoying! Stop wasting my time! I will not devote 33% of my viewing time to you. Ever.

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  39. The problem isn't TIVO... by keyrat+rafa · · Score: 1

    I don't think I'd even go from 10x fast forward to 5x fast forward for anything KFC would be offering.

  40. Scratch and sniff by Dracos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is pretty much the equivalent to scratch and sniff perfume/cologne ads in magazines. The method here doesn't match the product as well, so I can't imagine this would be as effective.

    People skip ads because they (maybe only subconsciously) realize that they don't care about the ads, because the ads are not content. TV advertising doesn't work on a conscious level anymore. People have learned to use them as an excuse for other things (make popcorn, check laundry), or to simply automatically tune them out, much like studies have shown that people ignore 468 x 60 images on the web.

    A TiVo that can automatically skip ads based on a program's break time schedule is equivalent to AdBlock; the difference is that in one, you know when the ads are coming, and in the other you know where they are coming from.

    TV is also in a rough spot because:

    1. There hasn't been shit on TV in at least 20 years, probably longer
    2. 500 channels just means I have to spend more time looking at the program schedule to find the diamond in the rough
    3. The same companies own the networks and the movie studios; the hydras have all chosen which of their heads to cannibalize
    4. Games, Internet, and other activities (except reading, but that's another topic) take away from TV viewership

    In a nutshell, TV is doomed in a similar way to radio. The inevitable disaster of the switch to digital TV may just be the killing blow.

    And I say good riddance, until I can get a la carte programming.

    1. Re:Scratch and sniff by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 1

      A TiVo that can automatically skip ads based on a program's break time schedule is equivalent to AdBlock; the difference is that in one, you know when the ads are coming, and in the other you know where they are coming from.

      Carrying the analogy further, what KFC is doing is equivalent to linking one of those blinking "YOU ARE A WINNER" ads to an online coupon.

    2. Re:Scratch and sniff by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      You will never have a tivo that skips ad's based on the schedule because the networks do not adhere to that schedule. They are usually off by 2-10 minutes in a seemingly random order. now if you had access to the baseband audio that carries the "CUE" audio track you could automatically skip the local AD insertions but not the National ones.

      the only way it can ever be automatic is by scanning the entire video file and determine spots based on criteria. the REplayTV does this and still get's it wrong once in a while.

      It will never EVER happen. the networks will not allow it and cince they already screw with PVR owners already by starting shows 1 minute early or running them late on a regular basis, I think they would rather mess with you than help you skip their money makers.

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    3. Re:Scratch and sniff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There hasn't been shit on TV in at least 20 years, probably longer

      Old much?

      500 channels just means I have to spend more time looking at the program schedule to find the diamond in the rough

      I thought there were no diamonds? Your rough is another man's diamond.

      The same companies own the networks and the movie studios; the hydras have all chosen which of their heads to cannibalize

      Hydras? You're probably one of those people who says "sheeple" too.

      In a nutshell, TV is doomed in a similar way to radio.

      What are you talking about? Most metropolitian areas have 10+ radio stations. Radio hasn't gone anywhere. Or are you old enough that you consider anything post "Ozzie and Harriet" to be the demise of radio?

      We know, everything was way better when you were young. It couldn't be that the world hasn't changed; just your view of it. The world is actually getting continually worse, and the only reason young people don't know is because they can't remember anything else.

  41. Troll? by donscarletti · · Score: 1

    Come on, that ad is funny and almost relivent. Someone mod parent underrated so he can at least be where he started!

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  42. The secret password is ... by neomage86 · · Score: 1

    "Buffalo" Just go to this site: http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/ and enter the code buffalo to get a free sandwich (they'll mail the coupon to you after you sell them your soul)

  43. Misleading title by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 1

    I have a Tivo and I've gotten the "hit thumbs up for more info" type commercials for about a year now

    This isn't even that kind of interactive ad. FTA...
    the chain unveiled a new TV ad Thursday that allows viewers to crack a hidden message if they play the spot back slowly on a digital video recorder or VCR

    It's a stupid gimmick where they flash something on the screen really quickly, and people have to play it back slowly to see it. "Interactive Commercial Utilizes Tivo Features" sounds like marketing spin to mislead people into thinking the ad works like the ads you've mentioned, or like DVD menus that allow you to navigate through video clips.

    No digg. :P

    1. Re:Misleading title by Plunky · · Score: 1
      It's a stupid gimmick where they flash something on the screen really quickly

      is subliminal advertising legal in the USA?

    2. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 1

      I don't know personally, but according to Wikipedia it happens.

  44. 34 to young? by AgNO3 · · Score: 1

    Alright 34 is to young to participate in there campaign cool. I have not been to young to since I was like 9.

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  45. Unfortunately for them... by krunk4ever · · Score: 2, Informative
    there is this thing called the Internet and on this Internet, there these things called Forums and some of these forums are tailored for bargain hunters. From http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid =40&threadid=1810259&enterthread=y :

    KFC is giving away coupons for a free Buffalo stacker standwich.

    Go to KFC.com and enter code Buffalo

    Hey it's worth a shot for a free sandwich


    1. Re:Unfortunately for them... by rant-mode-on · · Score: 1
      Fortunately for them, they have ways of avoiding coughing up:

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    2. Re:Unfortunately for them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. Internet forums, that have nothing to do with fast food, are discussing KFC. People who have never seen the TV add are becomming aware of this new sandwich. People are going out of their way to get one for free. Some of these people might like it and start to actually buy them. I can't see how anybody can see this as anything other than a pure advertising win for KFC.

  46. That's funny, the free calculator... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 1

    I received from NAMBLA gives me the same answer!

  47. Ads vs. content - just a thought by jintxo · · Score: 1

    Wel, DVR's are sometimes used to segregate ads from content so then you can watch what you want.

    Just imagine when ads and content are the same thing, and when you buy, say a DVD, what you're really buying is the ads buried within.

    hm.

    1. Re:Ads vs. content - just a thought by whathappenedtomonday · · Score: 1

      you mean like product placement?! not exactly a new concept...

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    2. Re:Ads vs. content - just a thought by jintxo · · Score: 1

      yes, I was thinking something like product placement becoming the norm, and us not even realizing

  48. Not watching adverts? That is stealing by wetelectric · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well eventually, especially for you guys in the USA, it will be illegal to watch a program then leave the room / change the channel (circumvent) during the adverts. I mean, not watching the adverts of the program you just watched? That is stealing!

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  49. KFC hates open source! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When entering the buffalo code, try it in IE - surprisingly the dob it disliked in firefox, magically works in IE!!!! Great....

  50. Corporate hegemony by packetmill · · Score: 1

    The aim is to combat the use of DVR devices..

    They're making it sound like DEA cracking down on narcotics. I'm sure MS is proud.

  51. Bypass the advert, go straight to the coupon by thesp · · Score: 1

    http://www.kfc.com/buffalosnacker/Checkage.asp takes you direct to the coupon - no need to watch the advert.

  52. what commercials? by TimFenn · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. MythTV flagged the commercials and spliced them out of my recording. Oh, I'm also lathered in illegitimately acquired free Buffalo Snackers as I type this. Arrest me now!

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  53. Where have I heard of "Yum!" ... ? by MrNougat · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah, now I remember. It was something about Florida and tomatoes.

    Here's the pertinent excerpt from the above link:

    In March 2005 the Coalition of Immokalee Workers pressured Yum!, a company selling agricultural goods to businesses such as Taco Bell to increase worker' wages. Workers were given 40 cents per 32 pound bucket of tomatoes. These wages are the same as they were 30 years ago. Many workers were incarcerated, and beaten. The CIW was able to free 1,000 workers by forcing an increase in wages and rewriting the terms of slavery in Yum!'s supplier code of conduct.

    I just figured you might want to know.

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  54. Interactive ads? Please, no... by Haeleth · · Score: 1

    PUNCH THE MONKEY AND WIN A BUFFALO CHICKEN SANDWICH!

    Don't use so many caps. It's like yelling. Don't use so many caps. It's like yelling. Don't use so many caps. It's like yelling.

  55. A sandwhich? by altp · · Score: 1


    If they want me to take the time to watch the commercial and figure something out from it they will have to offer me a lot more than just a coupon for a sandwhich.

    A bicket of chicken a week for a year or something like that. And even with that i would only stop on the commercial if i happened to see if during my 30 second skips.

    I'm paying DirecTV to watch TV not advertisements ... I don't want to see them, and if i am ever forced to see them I will cancel my service in a heart beat.

  56. everybody bitches by lagerbottom · · Score: 1

    Everybody here bitches day in and day out..."These businesses need models that are adapted to new technology"...then someone tries to come up with something and everyone bitches about how dumb it is. *sigh*

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    1. Re:everybody bitches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a business model that tries to negate the purpose of new technology.
      If I wanted ads forced down my throat this badly I could use a damn VCR to do this.

  57. No, really? by dk.r*nger · · Score: 1

    The aim is to combat the use of DVR devices, like Tivo, to skip advertising by introducing interactivity

    Really? Because it really, really looks like the aim is to do something new and fancy and as a result get some editorial publicity for free. And it works ;)

  58. You don't need a TiVo! by antdude · · Score: 1

    Bah, you don't need a TiVo to playback this ad to pause.

    Use a VCR (hardest), another brand of PVR (your computer if you have a TV tuner), watch online, download the video file and use some video editor, etc.

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  59. Slow Mo by waters · · Score: 1

    So, how many people skip thier commerials by using Slo-Mo? That's what you'll have to be using to see the message. If you fast forward or 30 sec skip, you'll never see it.

    John

  60. Good idea (for a change) by HunterZ · · Score: 1

    I can't comment on the execution, but the general idea is great. It's nice to see the industry come up with an innovative solution instead of just lobbying the government for anti-consumer legislation all the time.

    Also, the summary's wording is confusing: Yum! owns KFC (not the other way around), as well as several other high-profile fast food chains such as Taco Bell and Pizza Hut.

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  61. Re:Eh...22 isnt old enough! by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

    their age check somehow fails with firefox, being born in 1925 was also too young.

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  62. blipvert by qzulla · · Score: 1

    The blipvert has arrived.

    qz

    1. Re:blipvert by Fishbulb · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it's a blipvert WITHIN a commercial!

  63. Throwing hammers? by starakurva · · Score: 1

    What gym do you go to? Home Depot?

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  64. not really subliminal by qzulla · · Score: 1
    The commercial is not "Interactive" because you must watch it repeatedly. You don't interact with the commercial; you interact with the company by doing something indicated subliminably* in the commercial.

    I watched the commercial from a link below and it is not subliminal as it is kind of obvious. Subliminal is perceived under the concious. This one is obviously not under the radar.

    qz

  65. Is TiVo issue the only issue? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    "...the chain unveiled a new TV ad Thursday that allows viewers to crack a hidden message if they play the spot back slowly on a digital video recorder or VCR."

    The details are sketchy at best, but it sounds like the real goal might be to slip subliminal messages in through the back door. There are laws against subliminal messages in advertising, and while I am not sure if they really have the motive they claim, or if it is just a smoke and mirrors show to keep people from noticing that these laws are (likely) being broken, someone needs to look into this with a much finer resolution of scrutiny.

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  66. "Drink Your Ovaltine" by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    Why should I give a damn about the secret message in the ad? That's like in A Christmas Story when the kid eagerly waits to get his Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring, and when he works out the secret message it says, "DRINK YOUR OVALTINE". I mean, who really gives a shit?

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  67. Subliminal messages? by Ciaran_H · · Score: 1
    I find it interesting that nobody seems to have focused on one thing in particular yet...
    The secret message explaining how to redeem the free sandwich offer is planted in just a few of the spot's frames and revealed when replayed in slow motion.

    "To the naked eye, it's a typical KFC television commercial," he said.
    So tell me, how is this different from subliminal messages? Of course, in this case you know that you're looking for a secret code. But the very practice of hiding messages in a frame or two is the exact same one as used by people looking to put subliminal messages in. If this isn't treated as subliminal messaging, then it could blur the line.

    Disclaimer: I wasn't able to watch the video for some reason. I only heard audio. So I can't tell how obvious it actually is.
  68. I like this idea by severoon · · Score: 1

    This is a great thing. (1) It will encourage companies to give away cash prizes for watching their ads, (2) it encourages companies to make ads that are entertaining, which I am more likely to watch, (3) it recognizes the inevitability that companies can no longer force consumers to watch ads by bombardment as we get more control over our lives--it recognizes my right to choose whether or not I'm going to watch this ad, (4) single, large prizes will encourage a few, dedicated people to "solve" the ad, much like radio call-in prizes encouraged a small sect of dialers who make their living...this means that companies will be much more likely to give away lots of smaller prizes because a small, dedicated group of people just out to get the money won't be any more likely to buy that company's products, (5) in a small way it encourages adoption of DVR technology--making this tech more widespread only helps everyone.

    All in all, anytime a company modifies its business practices to recognize or support my freedom as a consumer, I'm all for it. To all you naysayers out there--would you prefer companies like KFC go the route of the music industry and try to sue DVR manufacturers or consumers that skip commercials for "stealing" content???

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  69. I Tried Entering The Code by UniDyne · · Score: 1

    I got the code, went to the site, tried entering it. I am nearly 30 and after entering my date of birth, I was greeted with a message:

    Sorry, you are too young to participate in the Buffalo KFC® Snacker special offer. Although there are many other areas on this website for you to explore, eligible entries must be 18 years or older to participate in this particular giveaway.

    So it appears to be broken... at least for users of Firefox. Or maybe you have to be OVER 30 to play?