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Google Launches Google Music
George Meyson writes "Google has launched a new service known as Google Music that will allow a person to search fast links to song lyrics, musical artists and CD titles on the main search results page. The user can type in the name of a band, artist, album or song in the main Google search bar special, and results will appear at the top, accompanied by icons of music notes. Items that can be purchased will have links to merchants for online ordering or downloading. Initial merchant partners include Apple Computer's iTunes service, RealNetworks Rhapsody, eMusic and Amazon.com." From the Google Blog: "A few of us decided to try to make the information you get for these searches even better, so we created a music search feature. Now you can search for a popular artist name, like the Beatles or the Pixies, and often Google will show some information about that artist, like cover art, reviews, and links to stores where you can download the track or buy a CD via a link at the top of your web search results page."
RIAA sues Google
With both links to the journals where you can buy the articles and the professor's websites where you can read them for free?
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
Hasn't the RIAA issued cease-and-decist letters to lyric websites before?
Their response will certainly be interesting. Do I detect a brawl of the titans coming?
Do multiple searches, and you could string enough icons of music notes together to get a free song.
I guess I'm set in my ways and all but I'm just not a fan of this. I realize Google has to make money and this is one way of doing it but I'd rather just enter the name of a band or part of a song and find out the lyrics, cover art, etc the old fashioned way... With the great results Google used to return.
Now, with this, I'm going to be inundated with more advertisements. I already knew that I could go to iTMS, Amazon.com, allofmp3, etc to get my music after I found what I was looking for. Why do I need Google to tell me?
I was raving about GMail, Google Maps, in the past but with the last two "additions" which were Web Clips in GMail and now this, I just can't say I'm impressed. It was fine the way it was.
Do they even exist anymore? I thought Frank Black rode his hovercraft off into the sunset.
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Apple Computer's iTunes service, RealNetworks Rhapsody, eMusic and Amazon.com
:-)
I wonder why Yahoo Music Unlimited (the best deal around) isn't in the list.
The more you regulate a company, the worse its products become.
is a service where I type in some lyrics and the song information pops up. I admit I simply cannot keep up with the music my kids listen to, and the radio stations don't tell me what artist or song they are playing. I want to know who the artist is and so forth so that when I am talking to the kids they will "think" I have some clue. Now, there is this Clarkson girl and I've seen pictures of her, so, at least that much has registered in my brain! I know you can sort-of do this already, but, if the engine that did this was not just some 'bot that went to the lyric sites but something that worked better ... anyway, let's see how this "plays out"
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The body mentions beatles and it's not even a beatles-beatles post? Hell gotten colder lately?
They'll tell me where I can buy beatles records? This is a dream come true!
Intitle:"Index of /" nameofartist nameofalbum mp3, I'm feeling lucky
Just to clear up confusion, it will not be the RIAA that would sue Google. The RIAA is responsible for protecting copyrights on recordings, not published music (sheet music, lyrics, etc...). The National Music Publishers Association (NMPA), or more specifically, their legal arm, the Harry Fox Association, is responsible for enforcing these copyrights, so that is most likely from whom Google will be hearing shortly.
Insomniak`: Stupid fucking Google
Insomniak`: "The" is a common word, and was not included in your search
Insomniak`: "Who" is a common word, and was not included in your search
Here. More comprehensive too.
I was going to ad this feature to a 3rd rate search engine I ran. I figured I coudn't compete with google, but I could find a niche. There goes that idea.
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C'mon guys, at least include a link to the SUBJECT of TFA:
Try searching for "good music" and "crappy music"http://www.google.com/musicsearch
This one gang kept wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staff.
better than if somebody typed in a track they wanted to buy then clicked on a sponsered link tyhat made them go to a webpage that made them type it in again.
also good to aggregayr the archives of more than one vendor into this saerch database, as some vendors will have songs others might not.
good for the retailers, good for us, thats a rare one
I too thought this isn't all that useful. I can already do all they offer on Amazon, plus listen to a clip of the songs on most albums. One nice benefit: they list the prices for several stores for those who like to buy the physical album. (Under "Buy Album" you have to hit the "Show all stores" link.
Anyone who has ever taken a stab at playing guitar or another instrument that can be tabbed out knows how unreliable most online tabs are. Sometimes I cannot believe how wildly inaccurate they are, and I have a nearly dead ear when it comes to telling one chord from another with the exception of a few power chords. The groups that complain about this stuff ought to be snickering and saying, "if you want to actually, well, LEARN the song you have to buy us for the reliability that only we can provide."
Besides, here's a little shocker for them: most CDs have the lyrics inside the jewel case. Yes, fancy that. Anyone who is a good singer can listen to the rhythm of the vocals and pick it up, thus making it practically pointless to crack down on this when the bands and record labels are actively "enabling piracy" by giving away the lyrics as part of the package. Stick to the tabs, people, stick to the tabs for enforcement if they're blatant rip offs.
I never understood why the record labels don't see themselves at war with these publishing groups. The record labels should be actively encouraging local bands to cover popular songs as a way to not only discover new talent, but promote existing songs. Think about it, if a local band can cover a very big song very well, aren't they worth investigating? The label might have their next big act right there, and the songs that sell well are excellent benchmarks.
If the record labels were smart, they'd forget about the few million $s they could be making by licensing sheet music and instead be pushing free sheet music for popular songs as a way to promote their albums.
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Tried "Godspeed You Black Emperor". No luck, although the regular links are plenty and relevant. Guess they're not popular at all.
My exception safety is -fno-exceptions.
but little guys who bother get their face sued off before they can blink?
Google will be exhibiting at SCALE 4x as a Silver Sponsor. In addition they'll have 2 speakers at the show: Chris Dibona and Dan Kegel. The show will be held on Feb 11-12, 2006 in Los Angeles.
For a while now, lyrics have been a popular search on the internet. From what I've seen, most to all of the lyrics websites contain a bajillion advertisements, spyware, etc., and sometimes I can't find what I want.
I wish Google would index the lyrics in their own database. Then I'll have a common, reliable source of lyrics goodness that doesn't threaten install spyware on my machine.
Just when we're hearing that the Music Publishers' Association is demanding jail time for folks who put up lyric sites, we get Google blithely putting up...a lyric site index. I know they're claiming that their partner sites are providing these, but my first hit was on lyricsfreak.com, which I suspect is hardly legal. It's like Google is daring folks to sue them. Awesome.
Track times.
This is extremely important when we're, ahem, looking for these songs and we don't want to confuse it with live versions, covers, etc.
If Google puts that in there, I no longer have to use AllMusic.com to look album information up.
A search for the Beatles brings up every cover album ever, but very few Beatles albums. Didn't even bother to check what result Sgt Pepper was at... wasn't first or second page though.
it even has Beatles in the summary, it was just asking to be submitted by him.
...when I type in a name of a song and/or group, it would link me to the discographies. I have a ton of MP3s that I would like to sort by when the artist/song was first recorded. (Most of my CDs are compilations / Greatest Hits). That way I can easily create a "Greatest Rock Hits of 1984" mix.
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
Wake me up when they have a music search where I can whistle a few bars into the mike, and the software comes back with matching songs.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
Another new feature that at least I haven't seen previously are the reviews, is this something new or have they been there before?
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That's the count down till Google gets sued over this. Providing access to copyright material? Assisting in conpyright violation.
I would have gone futher with the count down but I seem to remember a very poor song that used those lyrics. I don't want to be next to get sued.
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Did anyone noticed that there are reviews? AFAIK, this is the first time Google introduces a human factor. And cooperation (with Epinions) Biased results?
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I have a small website with about 10 pieces of my music, a little form to order CDs etc. How will Google music help people out there looking for music find it?
Not a single one of the special magic searches works from my box at work. Stock searches, weather, movies, music, UPS tracking -- none of these return what's expected.
Works just fine from home, but here at work, no go. Same behavior both with and without my 'personalized' google login, and from firefox and IE.
any ideas?
I am glad they finally did this, I get tired of retarded lyric sites and going to Yahoo! music to find information on artist albums, etc, especially since Yahoo! Music reformated their layout and it now suxxors :(
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That's all well and good, but what about phonetic searching of songs?
You know, that song that goes "da da da. da da. da da da. whirrrr!"
It exists, sort of... but only for ringtones. There's a service (the name of which I cannot remember) that allows you to play part of a song into your phone, and it will then identify the song and offer ringtones of it for download.
I am scientifically inaccurate.
Not only is google dominating internet advertisement... " a popular artist name, like the Beatles or the Pixies" They're winning over our hearts, too. The Pixies more than deserve that placement. Bravo, google. Bravo.
Will Google fight the suit (when it comes) or cave in?
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You may want to try talking with your Network Admin... sounds like they're blocking cookies for you...
If you actually do a search on google for an artist name, all that shows up is a link for more information. After getting there it offers information on albums and other things. Dig a little deeper and you can find links to lyrics sites. Google is not providing lyrics, just links to them. There is nothing wrong or even illegal about linking to a website.
Brawl of the titans? Not likely.
Why should they help you as an artist?
The biggest problem with "artists" is their seemingly unlimit sense of some sort of entitlement.
I think you might be talking about Shazam
Given that lyric databases are being shut down left and right, I for one am happy to see the larger gorilla take up this service and await the pending legal fracas with glee.
You can find some lyrics now, but it's much spottier than it should (or could) be. If Google wins (or even is just allowed to make the information availiable) it opens up the door for other services to exist.
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They should buy Intel and FreeScale, so they can control the microprocessor. They should integrate the two processors together, to create one processor that can run code from both at a higher speed than the original, and combine these into a single 16-core chip. They should buy Apple, so they'll have a hardware and operating system platform, in addition to graphic, audio, and video editing systems, in addition to the Apple music store. They should buy Adobe, so they can control all of Adobe's and Macromedia's graphic design products, which they should integrate into Apple's graphic, audio, and video software programs to create one large system that supports all formats and contains all feature sets. They should buy VMware, so they can incorporate virtualization directly into the operating system for convenience. They should buy Oracle, so they can control the database software, which they should integrate into the system. They should buy Sun Microsystems, so they can control Java. They should buy Microsoft, so they can control .Net. They should integrate Java and .Net together to create one system that has the best bits of both and is fully backwards compatible with code written for either. Once they own Microsoft, they should use the source code of Windows to make Wine work 100% correctly for all applications across all Windows versions and then integrate Wine into OS X using the Cocoa framework for interoperability. They should buy Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T, so they can control the telecommunications systems that their applications will use to connect to other applications. They should buy the United States Armed Forces so they can defend all their assets once they buy all this stuff, and get a few satellites thrown in as a bargain so they can take more pictures for Google Earth.
Yesterday powertabs.net disabled downloading of user transcribed guitar tablatures of songs in response to statments made yesterday by the MPA threatening legal action against sheet music, tablature, and lyric websites.
Next up GoogleMart. Where you can search and buy anything you like. They're able to be the compitetion prices through the use of "adword" packaging. Look out WalMart!
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More than ever, it looks like Google is ready to link together all these recent conepts into a cohesive web platform for All Things Information. They're not replacing books, but allowing you to search them more in-depth, same with music, etc.
I'm not sure it'll sell, but it should be an interesting product. I like that they've started with real innovation on searching, cateloging, etc, instead of just branding alone. However, in the end the market will leapfrog, it always has.
Compare their lineup to, say, the world of MSN or AOL, which was attempting to brand existing behaviors "email" and "search" and "shop" done pretty much as you have it elsewhere. Yahoo added customer references, then Amazon adds one-click and historical records/you-created-this-page nonsense. Google will probably have as much of all those products, but tied into a dashboard of widgets.
Sadly, nobody has come up with a better concept on ads. Crazy-bad moving ads on a static page of text are the bane of internet viewing. Google's putblished test-only ads, which I like, but perhaps only by their integrating their paying advertising into their lists (with a deliniation for showing such) can we drop this.
Unless these new products are kept simple, users will again migrate to the "meat and potato" sites like craigslist and similar for simplicity. Google's biggest risk is it's newfound audience, and the push to throw ads at them everywhere. The day we see Punch the Monkey on Google, we've pretty much seen this behemouth ready for an undercut.
You might find this interesting then : http://techdirt.com/articles/20051216/029251_F.sht ml
That gives the following 4 albums:
Perhaps you were looking for another artist by the same name?
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With regards to the original poster and the Pixies' popularity:
The album Surfer Rosa just went platinum this year, IIRC.
They're a pretty interesting band. I think their influences really resonate throughout alternative rock today.
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True, but Google isn't the lyric site here. However, MPA seemed to believe jailtime was worthy, so I suppose wishing to ban links on a search engine isn't too far fetched either.
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Will google index other types of audio content with their music service (say like audiobooks or audio training)?
For example, I am currently working on http://www.developeradvantage.com/, which is creating audio training modules specifically for software developers. So far, there is really nothing else out there in terms of professional, high-quality audio training modules. On amazon.com, you can find over 2000 Java books, but, if you search for audio content, you will find zero results that are technical java books (maybe a few on indonesia though). Same with audible.com, they have no technical content for software developers.
It would be great if I could go to a search engine, type in, say Java, and find some great training modules to listen to while exercising or commuting to work (or perhaps even while working on other stuff at my desk!).
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The difference here is Google isn't providing the lyrics themselves, they are merely pulling it from various sites already listed on their search engine. If the MPA(Music Publisher's Association) shuts down those sites, then google won't be listing any lyrics.
Google, as with most of their services, isn't doing anything beyond organizing information that is provided by others. While that doesn't make them bulletproof given the nature of American and World justice systems, it gives them a lot more breathing room.
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I bet Beatles-Beatles is pissed right now...
We've been doing this for ages at http://www.gofish.com/ We provide the service for a number of big and small search engines. They had to do this to remain competetive in search. To be honest, google releases many services that are derrivative of existing ones -- like google maps or mail. In each of these cases they innovate in improving the service in some way. I am a bit biased here but, I think the real story here is google is now just following the pack. Where are the inovative features? More importantly where is 50 cents audiobook?
Actually, I just found it again. It was "Song IDentity."
I am scientifically inaccurate.
I wonder how poor Mike feels about that?
I wouldn't like being whistled into all day.
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Wouldn't that get them sued by the "Name that Tune" game show creators.... I should sue them for staying in production for me to play! I so ruled as a 9 year old.....
WOW, you can search lyrics I am sure the MPA is gonna be real happy about that...
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Hello, Does anybody know how can we 'help' Google to get some specific song listed ? I'd like Google to be able to find my wife[1]'s songs.
[1] An independent artist releasing songs for free.
Pupeno
Google buys RIAA.
Fractured Element
Yay! Now I won't have to look all over for album art images. Thanks google :)
Funny... I don't see anything for Pronobozo...
Maybe Google should have added this to their arsenal of Beta programs...
Can't wait to search for the Andy Griffith Show themesong over and over.
That already exists thanks to Alexa opening up their API: http://www.musipedia.org/
Their search results are damn good too now. ask.com
Try searching for the space shuttle: "Shuttle" on google.com and ask.com... see the differences.
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Here you go: http://www.musipedia.org/whistle.0.html
Will it do rap lyrics or just music?
Initial merchant partners include Apple Computer's iTunes service, RealNetworks Rhapsody, eMusic and Amazon.com....
:)
Let's hear it for Googlezon
Exactly, it's going to be the largest database of dead links ever!
Google Print, for instance. Googe Images. Google News. All have attracted lawsuits.
Pretty glittering gereralizations!!! I'm trolling for someone to backfill us in on the details that represent the pattern you've identified for our actor in our interests, Google.
I'm not aware of Google as activist for individualist causes. There's a story here if this is true
I tried "Malcolm Arnold" "Bach" "Frederick Fennel" and
"Steve Reich". It failed for 3 out of 4.
Doesn't sync up every artist the engine finds. For example, Louise Attaque, KYO or Saez (Damien Saez). Which are all foreign artists (from france) but! to Google they shouldn't be. Google is an all foreign featured search engine from any country, any language. Correct?
Comment of conclusion, not good enough. Yet...hopefully.
Ps, it did find Calogero...hrmm...
I'm mean googles. Will my usual searches for Britney Spears be somehow disrupted by this new music search engine?
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This one gang kept wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staff.
Really. The thing that would really be useful is to search by melody - enter in some rough approximation of the main theme, a snatch of lyric, or something, and find the name of the song.
Maybe it's just me, but it seems easier to just type: "song name lyrics" or "artist name lyrics" to find the lyrics in the first place.
Depending on where Google is drawing their information, it may help for obscure lyrics, particularly ones where the same song title has been used over and over again, or the name of the song is also a common phrase. For instance, there's a song I heard when I was a child which had a chorus along the lines of "Oh-oh-oh I'm crying. Criedy Criedy to make me full better, put it all down in a tear-stained letter" (obviously a Country song...) that I've never been able to locate due to not knowing how to spell the "Criedy" part and the fact that "tear stained letter" matches a large number of country lyrics. *wry grin* And I had a good example of one where I knew the title, but not the artist, and where the title had recently been reused for a pop song and therefore I had trouble finding the original lyrics, but my mind's blank.
This sig has absolutely no significance and serves only to take up screen space and waste the time of the reader.
http://www.musipedia.org/whistle.0.html
Do I get a prize?
i searched for own band and was suprised it was able to pull up a lot of information. however it says one of my songs appears on a compilation when it does not (none of the song titles are the same either, so it's unlikely they stole my music).
Back when I started using Firefox and noticed its "Keyword" feature on bookmarks, I thought it'd be neat if I could do a lyrics search straight from the address bar. So lo and behold, I made myself a bookmark to:= I'm+Feeling+Lucky
http://google.com/search?q=%22%25s%22+lyrics&btnI
and assigned it the keyword "l" (for lyrics, obviously.) Firefox replaces the %s with whatever follows the keyword when it's typed in the address bar.
Now when I want song lyrics, I can just type "l song artist/name" and hit enter, and the words show up automagically. Same deal works for guitar tabs or anything else. It's surprisingly handy.
(And yes, I realize this Google thing's got more features. But when I want lyrics quickly, I don't need album covers or any of that jazz.)
google torrent
now that would be sweet
Unfortunately, no one can be told what my sig is...
You know, shortly after making that post, I did a Google search and it all came up. It sounds about right. Gosh, but that brings me back... rebelling against family values by listening to country music. (I was born and raised in Ashland, Kentucky. My family pretty much universally despised country music because so many people in Ashland wanted to be country but weren't, so we were surrounded by badly faked twang, $300 designer cowboy boots, and spotless Nissan pickup trucks) I'll definitely have to acquire that one, if but for old time's sake. But again, the title's been used by a large number of country singers and the words even more often.
This sig has absolutely no significance and serves only to take up screen space and waste the time of the reader.
Now, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout.
the only problem is is show up collapsed at the top, so unless you feel like clicking the ling and loading a new page, all you see is the regular websites that you would have seen before.
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To shut down other sites with lyrics, songs, etc, so that the only content linked would be those paying customers of Google...
Well I just searched for Comfortably Numb (not an obscure song by any stretch) and didn't find any "at the top results," but I did get the same hits to lyrics and Pink Floyd that I did before.
Searches for some less well-known artists (The Moldy Peaches, Momus, Robert Johnson) didn't find any special results, but the first hit was what I was looking for. A search for Electric Ladyland finds lots of links to buy the album, but no special Jimi Hendrix links.
But at least searching for U2 gives me a picture of the band and not a spy plane.
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
Fuck the music industry!
They always try to screw us over, fuck them!
Never buy a CD again!
This was basically my idea for the Summer of Code. They turned it down at the time, yet now I see them implementing it. This is the same reason I stopped submitting Slashdot articles.
Between this and AdSense's lack of XHTML compliance, I'm starting to get annoyed at Google.
We're all just waiting for Google to hit a slack quarter and cough up porn.google.com...
You know it'll happen.
The rules of public business operations don't allow it not to.
It seems like the RIAA only goes after groups that can't fight back so I doubt it.
More likely that they'll just use this new service to find even more people to sue.
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Amazon does it so much better
Google Searches don't even give all the albums - a search of "The White Stripes" didn't show the 2nd album "De Stilj" or 4th album "Elephant"
Type Man in Google web search
Now type Man in Google music search
That's just one example.
I never did find the group Man on Google when I needed information on them. Now with the music search feature they're right at the top of the page along with album covers and contents.
No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
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EvilLyrics lets you highlight the lyrics in time to the music by downloading a 'karaoke' file for each song. In tern, these lyrics can be sent -- with proper timing -- to WinAmp's MilkDrop visualizer plugin for quite an awesome visual display.
Need this for a rare song? Listen to it once while manually hilighting the lyrics with the down arrow. Upload to server automatically. Now, any EvilLyrics user who listens to that song will get your hilighting. (Side-effect: Almost all the 1980s pop songs I downloaded already had working karaokes, there are 45,000 now and growing every day.)
Lyrics are, of course, saved on your local harddrive so that in the event of the RIAA actually winning a planetary lockdown on lyrics (ha ha ha ha ha), you would still have a copy of them all on your harddrive.
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