It's not a mystery where there is taped confessions of DNC operatives inciting violence at Trump rallies. You don't have to trust or have any faith in O'Keefe to see that it fits into the larger pattern of BLM showing up to 'protest' at two different Sander's rallies, and effectively shuting down one of them by hijacking his podium.
Putting all the blame on Trump for the violence is a myoptic at best, and disingenuous at worst.
TL;DR - limitations on direct campaign donations was circumvented by donations to downticket campaigns which the DNC collected and funneled into HRC's campaign.
Here's an interesting idea... Maybe, just maybe, President-elect Trump is not the raving, selfish, hate-filled, idiot the media and his opponents have painted him as.
Trump has spent enough time parading around shamelessly in the public eye that we know beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is in fact a total piece of human shit.
When the answer can only be hyperbole and a half, no wonder people stop taking you seriously.
When will The People wake up to the fact that "both" parties are complete shit, controlled by corporations, and dedicated to fucking us at every turn?
It'll be the illusion of choice until technology actually makes it possible to dispense with the polite fiction, and by then it won't matter what the peasants believe or want.
FBI Director James Comey identified 110 emails as containing information that was classified at the time it was sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret". None of these had classification markings. However, as noted in Clinton's non-disclosure agreement, unmarked classified information should be treated the same as marked classified information.[citation needed] An additional three email chains contained "portion markings", simply a "(C)" indicating "Confidential" in front of one or more paragraphs. These were not included in Comey's list of 110 because the State Department failed to confirm they were classified at the time they were sent. Clinton told the FBI she did not know the meaning of "(C)". Nearly 2,100 emails on the server were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department.
Emphasis mine. As Secretary of State, HRC is an originator of classified information. "Because Powell" is not an excuse for exposing SAP level secrets, lying about it, and then attempting to cover up the evidence.
The standoff that happened in Nevada between people and federal agents could be used as an example. We had a senate majority leader who used his platform to call these angered and disenfranchised Americans 'domestic terrorists' even as a fenced pen labeled '1st amendment zone' was erected in the middle of the desert. The hateful and vitriolic sentiments coming from both sides was astonishing.
Now, with President Trump it is another attempt at 'Hope and Change'. Once it becomes clear that peaceful revolution is impossible, all bets are off.
..... certainly the governed have to watch the government, but how does the government watch the people trying to harm its citizens if they aren't allowed to look?
That was a problem that Thomas Drake tried to answer with the Thin Thread program. Look at what he got for his trouble. How is the governed supposed to watch the government, when the abuses and violations of its own laws is considered 'classified', and whistleblowers are ruthlessly prosecuted?
... Die bravely in the food court for our freedom! Certainly you wouldn't go there, would you?
Insert obligatory Franklin quote about security here. There has to be an equilibrium where the best security is attained while also respecting the spirit and the letter of the law which was created for the sake of preserving freedom. To accept anything else, is to accept that we are subjects and not citizens.
We all know what happens when a government no longer fears the governed, and the first step to that is one-sided transparency, aka mass surveillance.
Ah, I see. You must be here to tell me that 'metadata doesn't matter' and 'if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear' and 'no warrants shall issue' only applies to actual physical 'papers'.
Justice Marshal, in his dissent of Smith v. Maryland summed it up the best: "The use of pen registers, I believe, constitutes such an extensive intrusion. To hold otherwise ignores the vital role telephonic communication plays in our personal and professional relationships, [...] as well as the First and Fourth Amendment interests implicated by unfettered official surveillance. Privacy in placing calls is of value not only to those engaged in criminal activity. The prospect of unregulated governmental monitoring will undoubtedly prove disturbing even to those with nothing illicit to hide. Many individuals, including members of unpopular political organizations or journalists with confidential sources, may legitimately wish to avoid disclosure of their personal contacts. [...] Permitting governmental access to telephone records on less than probable cause may thus impede certain forms of political affiliation and journalistic endeavor that are the hallmark of a truly free society. Particularly given the Government's previous reliance on warrantless telephonic surveillance to trace reporters' sources and monitor protected political activity, 2 I am unwilling to insulate use of pen registers from independent judicial review."
So once more, Senator Wyden has my utmost appreciation for being a champion of our constitutional right to privacy.
Or try to go directly to the source and try to form your own conclusion.
Case in point, when "Maybe the Russians could find Hillary's missing emails." turned into "ZOMG TRUMP ENCOURAGES RUSSIAN CYBERATTACK!!!!" it became necessary to que up the original video of the event on Youtube in order to get an unfiltered view. Once it became clear what really happened, then the spin and media dishonesty was extremely obvious.
Editorial bias is one thing, blatantly burying a major news story(WikiLeaks) because it doesn't fit the agenda is equal to being "fake news site". Oh sure, they ran a one or two minute piece once, but TRUMP IS A RACIST runs for 38 minutes every night.
There is bias (accidental unintentional) and then there is rigged reporting. Calling it bias is... cute.
The recent Project Veritas videos were another example of this. CNN ran the story briefly only so they could attack and try to discredit the messenger. Podesta's emails, even CNN's own newsfeed video, provided evidence to support what the Veritas videos were presenting, but that went ignored so they could only focus on convincing the public that O'Keefe is a fraud.
Now, an example of "making shit up" would be the claim that Clinton's campaign paid agitators to attend Trump rallies.
"... The campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the shit on the ground." --Scott Foval
That's true, the campaign doesn't pay the agitators directly.
You should be condemning Wyden for this reckless stunt, not thanking him.
Does "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" sound familiar to you at all? We're supposed to be citizens with rights protected under law, not subjects.
Wyden: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?
Clapper: No sir.
Wyden: It does not?
Clapper: Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect—but not wittingly.
-- Senate Intelligence Committee, March 12, 2013
Thank you, Senator Wyden.
Thank you, Edward Snowden.
What a huge lie that turned out to be. Clapper's resignation may be expected at this point, but still, it is a reminder of how unaccountable those agencies are.
A lot of Slashdotters are idiots, so it would be foolish to assume any support for him in here is because they are smart.
Trump is a failure on every level except fooling fools, at which he excels.
You're right that only a fool would completely believe Trump's version of Hope And Change. You fail though at giving him any credit for overcoming what should have been insurmountable opposition: leadership of both establishment parties and the MSM directly gunning for him. Trump ran a campaign that filled venues, while Clinton refused to hold press conferences, and it culminated in him winning the Presidency. He succeeded where Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul could not.
All despite smart people like you telling others how stupid they are, amazingly enough, using terms like racist, xenophobe, sexist or bigot. We're supposed to believe that all of the scandals were only a result of the 'Great Right Wing Conspiracy', and that a career of public service and running a charity will net massive wealth without even a 'smidgen' of corruption. Yeah, sure.
I barely believe a word Trump says, but I believe Trump's haters even less.
And here comes the anti-BLM rhetoric again. Apparently standing up against police brutality against African Americans now constitutes a hate crime to the Alt-right.
When you're not doing such vigorous mental gymnastics to dismiss blatant anti-white racism, do you ever stop to contemplate the irony of protesting police brutality with mobs chanting for the death of police? No, never mind. Surely I am a racist asshole for merely pointing out any kind of double standard.
When you elect a candidate who has run his campaign on racism, hate speech, sexism and intolerance, violence is what you're going to get.
Given what we've seen from Trump's opposition, that isn't an idle threat:
- paid protestors to incite violence and shut down political rallies
- politically affiliated mobs marching down NYC streets chanting for the death of law enforcement
- People being beaten on the street for who they show political support for.
Here's something to take back to whatever leftist echo chamber spawned you: 'Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty' is not a good strategy for convincing fair minded people to support you, and relies on ignorance in an information age.
When all you've had on display has been rank hypocrisy, double standards, a complete lack of principles, and an utter disregard for the truth, this is what happens. You DNC surrogates and the right-wing establishment created a political environment so toxic that an honest and intellectual leader doesn't have a chance, and ensured the rise of Trump since it would take someone like him to beat you at your own game.
Take Elizabeth Warren, for example. She was supposed to be a champion for wall st. reform after no justice was served after the 2008 meltdown, but she turned her back on Sanders and left him to wither on the vine, so she could align herself with the same HRC that refused to release transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches. Then even Sanders, rather than leave the party and run as an independent when proof of DNC's treachery emerged, fell in line and expected his followers to undergo a complete 180 turn as well. The cognitive dissonance was so thick you could cut it with a knife, but we were supposed to be good little sheeple and swallow what we're given and be told what to think. Because Trump.
All the accusations of Trump's sexism, while supporting someone based purely on her gender, who happens to be the same person who persecuted female victims of her spouse's sexual harrassment: pure hypocrisy
All the accusations of Trump's racism, while rallying around racist groups like BLM and the president himself deliberately fanning the flames of racial tension to the point where police were being ambushed and murdered. Hypocrisy. Where normal rules don't apply for a certain people south of the border, and they get to enjoy a double standard on immigration while the rest of the world gets in line. Hypocrisy.
All the accusations of xenophobia, as we watch France post military on their street corners and gay nightclubs become the scene of massacres. Where there is self-censoring of any criticism of one particular group, and treating it with special consideration out of fear of inciting violence to the point of being unable to call a spade a spade, while in the next breath condemning as bigoted those who do criticize and raise objects to the mass importation. Hypocrisy. Being told to welcome the intolerant with open arms, even as mass-murders show up to free speech events in our own country:
All the accusations of being a war monger and having a disastrous foreign policy leading to WW3, even as we witness the rise of ISIS and a proxy war in Syria with Russia, a foreign policy disaster that can be placed at the feet of Obama and HRC: more hypocrisy.
The first clue Trump would win should have been the Americans that stood in the way of Harry Reid's corruption by refusing to go quietly to their 'free speech' fenced pen in the middle of the desert. Rather, they had an armed confrontation with overbearing authorty that did not represent them. They were called traitors and domestic terrorists and Y'all Queda, at a time when many people already feel strongly that the government does not represent their interests. Someone who drinks the kool-aid may not be able to understand this, but Trump isn't nearly as repulsive as the hypocrisy surrounding those that denigrate him.
Hillary Clinton wasn't the only one to operate a private e-mail server
She was just the only one to have top secret SAP classified information on one. Then lied about it, then tried to cover up the evidence, then lied some more till it became obvious that there was a two-tier justice system under a corrupt attorney general and a politicized FBI.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov
As an ignorant lay-person, I'm puzzled as to how there can be terms for unexplained phenomena in physics such as 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' in order to explain the observable universe, and yet somehow purely EM propulsion is outside the realm of possibility.
You mean the gun that no evidence ever showed that Foster owned it or even touched it as it didn't even have his fingerprints? Makes sense that the gun would need to be 'lost'.
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It's not a mystery where there is taped confessions of DNC operatives inciting violence at Trump rallies. You don't have to trust or have any faith in O'Keefe to see that it fits into the larger pattern of BLM showing up to 'protest' at two different Sander's rallies, and effectively shuting down one of them by hijacking his podium.
Putting all the blame on Trump for the violence is a myoptic at best, and disingenuous at worst.
Here you go.
TL;DR - limitations on direct campaign donations was circumvented by donations to downticket campaigns which the DNC collected and funneled into HRC's campaign.
Here's an interesting idea... Maybe, just maybe, President-elect Trump is not the raving, selfish, hate-filled, idiot the media and his opponents have painted him as.
Trump has spent enough time parading around shamelessly in the public eye that we know beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is in fact a total piece of human shit.
When the answer can only be hyperbole and a half, no wonder people stop taking you seriously.
When will The People wake up to the fact that "both" parties are complete shit, controlled by corporations, and dedicated to fucking us at every turn?
It'll be the illusion of choice until technology actually makes it possible to dispense with the polite fiction, and by then it won't matter what the peasants believe or want.
FBI Director James Comey identified 110 emails as containing information that was classified at the time it was sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret". None of these had classification markings. However, as noted in Clinton's non-disclosure agreement, unmarked classified information should be treated the same as marked classified information.[citation needed] An additional three email chains contained "portion markings", simply a "(C)" indicating "Confidential" in front of one or more paragraphs. These were not included in Comey's list of 110 because the State Department failed to confirm they were classified at the time they were sent. Clinton told the FBI she did not know the meaning of "(C)". Nearly 2,100 emails on the server were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department.
Emphasis mine. As Secretary of State, HRC is an originator of classified information. "Because Powell" is not an excuse for exposing SAP level secrets, lying about it, and then attempting to cover up the evidence.
The standoff that happened in Nevada between people and federal agents could be used as an example. We had a senate majority leader who used his platform to call these angered and disenfranchised Americans 'domestic terrorists' even as a fenced pen labeled '1st amendment zone' was erected in the middle of the desert. The hateful and vitriolic sentiments coming from both sides was astonishing.
Now, with President Trump it is another attempt at 'Hope and Change'. Once it becomes clear that peaceful revolution is impossible, all bets are off.
Sanders accused them.
Wikileaks exposed them.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned.
That was a problem that Thomas Drake tried to answer with the Thin Thread program. Look at what he got for his trouble. How is the governed supposed to watch the government, when the abuses and violations of its own laws is considered 'classified', and whistleblowers are ruthlessly prosecuted?
... Die bravely in the food court for our freedom! Certainly you wouldn't go there, would you?
Insert obligatory Franklin quote about security here. There has to be an equilibrium where the best security is attained while also respecting the spirit and the letter of the law which was created for the sake of preserving freedom. To accept anything else, is to accept that we are subjects and not citizens.
We all know what happens when a government no longer fears the governed, and the first step to that is one-sided transparency, aka mass surveillance.
Ah, I see. You must be here to tell me that 'metadata doesn't matter' and 'if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear' and 'no warrants shall issue' only applies to actual physical 'papers'.
Justice Marshal, in his dissent of Smith v. Maryland summed it up the best:
"The use of pen registers, I believe, constitutes such an extensive intrusion. To hold otherwise ignores the vital role telephonic communication plays in our personal and professional relationships, [...] as well as the First and Fourth Amendment interests implicated by unfettered official surveillance. Privacy in placing calls is of value not only to those engaged in criminal activity. The prospect of unregulated governmental monitoring will undoubtedly prove disturbing even to those with nothing illicit to hide. Many individuals, including members of unpopular political organizations or journalists with confidential sources, may legitimately wish to avoid disclosure of their personal contacts. [...] Permitting governmental access to telephone records on less than probable cause may thus impede certain forms of political affiliation and journalistic endeavor that are the hallmark of a truly free society. Particularly given the Government's previous reliance on warrantless telephonic surveillance to trace reporters' sources and monitor protected political activity, 2 I am unwilling to insulate use of pen registers from independent judicial review."
So once more, Senator Wyden has my utmost appreciation for being a champion of our constitutional right to privacy.
Or try to go directly to the source and try to form your own conclusion.
Case in point, when "Maybe the Russians could find Hillary's missing emails." turned into "ZOMG TRUMP ENCOURAGES RUSSIAN CYBERATTACK!!!!" it became necessary to que up the original video of the event on Youtube in order to get an unfiltered view. Once it became clear what really happened, then the spin and media dishonesty was extremely obvious.
Editorial bias is one thing, blatantly burying a major news story(WikiLeaks) because it doesn't fit the agenda is equal to being "fake news site". Oh sure, they ran a one or two minute piece once, but TRUMP IS A RACIST runs for 38 minutes every night.
There is bias (accidental unintentional) and then there is rigged reporting. Calling it bias is ... cute.
The recent Project Veritas videos were another example of this. CNN ran the story briefly only so they could attack and try to discredit the messenger. Podesta's emails, even CNN's own newsfeed video, provided evidence to support what the Veritas videos were presenting, but that went ignored so they could only focus on convincing the public that O'Keefe is a fraud.
Now, an example of "making shit up" would be the claim that Clinton's campaign paid agitators to attend Trump rallies.
"... The campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, the Foval Group goes and executes the shit on the ground." --Scott Foval
That's true, the campaign doesn't pay the agitators directly.
You should be condemning Wyden for this reckless stunt, not thanking him.
Does "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects" sound familiar to you at all? We're supposed to be citizens with rights protected under law, not subjects.
Wyden: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?
Clapper: No sir.
Wyden: It does not?
Clapper: Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect—but not wittingly.
-- Senate Intelligence Committee, March 12, 2013
Thank you, Senator Wyden.
Thank you, Edward Snowden.
What a huge lie that turned out to be. Clapper's resignation may be expected at this point, but still, it is a reminder of how unaccountable those agencies are.
It's Russia's fault DNC surrogates were caught sending paid provocateurs and brownshirt goons into Trump rallies to stir up violence.
A lot of Slashdotters are idiots, so it would be foolish to assume any support for him in here is because they are smart.
Trump is a failure on every level except fooling fools, at which he excels.
You're right that only a fool would completely believe Trump's version of Hope And Change. You fail though at giving him any credit for overcoming what should have been insurmountable opposition: leadership of both establishment parties and the MSM directly gunning for him. Trump ran a campaign that filled venues, while Clinton refused to hold press conferences, and it culminated in him winning the Presidency. He succeeded where Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul could not.
All despite smart people like you telling others how stupid they are, amazingly enough, using terms like racist, xenophobe, sexist or bigot. We're supposed to believe that all of the scandals were only a result of the 'Great Right Wing Conspiracy', and that a career of public service and running a charity will net massive wealth without even a 'smidgen' of corruption. Yeah, sure.
I barely believe a word Trump says, but I believe Trump's haters even less.
And here comes the anti-BLM rhetoric again. Apparently standing up against police brutality against African Americans now constitutes a hate crime to the Alt-right.
When you're not doing such vigorous mental gymnastics to dismiss blatant anti-white racism, do you ever stop to contemplate the irony of protesting police brutality with mobs chanting for the death of police? No, never mind. Surely I am a racist asshole for merely pointing out any kind of double standard.
When you elect a candidate who has run his campaign on racism, hate speech, sexism and intolerance, violence is what you're going to get.
Given what we've seen from Trump's opposition, that isn't an idle threat:
- paid protestors to incite violence and shut down political rallies
- politically affiliated mobs marching down NYC streets chanting for the death of law enforcement
- People being beaten on the street for who they show political support for.
Here's something to take back to whatever leftist echo chamber spawned you: 'Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty' is not a good strategy for convincing fair minded people to support you, and relies on ignorance in an information age.
Trump supporters are either evil or brainless.
Actually, I'm closer aligned to chaotic neutral than I am to evil.
Using insults to signal your virtue is about as effective and intelligent as hitting someone in order to prove how smart you are.
Arbitrary? Actually, it seems rather predictable. An expression that:
- Is directly counter to cultural marxism: Likely hate speech
- Does not equivocate about race and is targeted towards whites: Not hate speech
When all you've had on display has been rank hypocrisy, double standards, a complete lack of principles, and an utter disregard for the truth, this is what happens. You DNC surrogates and the right-wing establishment created a political environment so toxic that an honest and intellectual leader doesn't have a chance, and ensured the rise of Trump since it would take someone like him to beat you at your own game.
Take Elizabeth Warren, for example. She was supposed to be a champion for wall st. reform after no justice was served after the 2008 meltdown, but she turned her back on Sanders and left him to wither on the vine, so she could align herself with the same HRC that refused to release transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches. Then even Sanders, rather than leave the party and run as an independent when proof of DNC's treachery emerged, fell in line and expected his followers to undergo a complete 180 turn as well. The cognitive dissonance was so thick you could cut it with a knife, but we were supposed to be good little sheeple and swallow what we're given and be told what to think. Because Trump.
All the accusations of Trump's sexism, while supporting someone based purely on her gender, who happens to be the same person who persecuted female victims of her spouse's sexual harrassment: pure hypocrisy
All the accusations of Trump's racism, while rallying around racist groups like BLM and the president himself deliberately fanning the flames of racial tension to the point where police were being ambushed and murdered. Hypocrisy. Where normal rules don't apply for a certain people south of the border, and they get to enjoy a double standard on immigration while the rest of the world gets in line. Hypocrisy.
All the accusations of xenophobia, as we watch France post military on their street corners and gay nightclubs become the scene of massacres. Where there is self-censoring of any criticism of one particular group, and treating it with special consideration out of fear of inciting violence to the point of being unable to call a spade a spade, while in the next breath condemning as bigoted those who do criticize and raise objects to the mass importation. Hypocrisy. Being told to welcome the intolerant with open arms, even as mass-murders show up to free speech events in our own country:
All the accusations of being a war monger and having a disastrous foreign policy leading to WW3, even as we witness the rise of ISIS and a proxy war in Syria with Russia, a foreign policy disaster that can be placed at the feet of Obama and HRC: more hypocrisy.
The first clue Trump would win should have been the Americans that stood in the way of Harry Reid's corruption by refusing to go quietly to their 'free speech' fenced pen in the middle of the desert. Rather, they had an armed confrontation with overbearing authorty that did not represent them. They were called traitors and domestic terrorists and Y'all Queda, at a time when many people already feel strongly that the government does not represent their interests. Someone who drinks the kool-aid may not be able to understand this, but Trump isn't nearly as repulsive as the hypocrisy surrounding those that denigrate him.
They did their best to sabotage him but Twitter and Facebook are the main reasons for the Trump victory.
I'd give Youtube credit too. Being able to bypass the corrupt media and view the source and make one's own judgement is powerful indeed.
Hillary Clinton wasn't the only one to operate a private e-mail server
She was just the only one to have top secret SAP classified information on one. Then lied about it, then tried to cover up the evidence, then lied some more till it became obvious that there was a two-tier justice system under a corrupt attorney general and a politicized FBI.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov
As an ignorant lay-person, I'm puzzled as to how there can be terms for unexplained phenomena in physics such as 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' in order to explain the observable universe, and yet somehow purely EM propulsion is outside the realm of possibility.
You mean the gun that no evidence ever showed that Foster owned it or even touched it as it didn't even have his fingerprints? Makes sense that the gun would need to be 'lost'.