I don't think you need to worry about your Karma. Your sentiments reflect a large majority of posters here and I would find it amusing at most if anyone troll-modded that.
"You go to the site, you type in a search term, and it finds files on the network," Jordan said. Jordan compares his site to Google, the popular Internet search engine.
[Ed: "I built a tool to help people find stuff. I'm getting sued?"]
But the RIAA likens Jordan's site to Napster, the now defunct song-swap service that revolutionized the distribution of music.
"The people who run these Napster networks know full well what they are doing: Operating a sophisticated network designed to enable widespread music thievery," Cary Sherman, the president of the RIAA, said in a statement issued April 3.
"The lawsuits we've filed represent an appropriate step given the seriousness of the offense," Sherman added.
[Ed: "I don't care what it is, it's ruining my business damnit!"]
"I didn't tell people what to share. I never promoted piracy," Jordan said.
[Ed: "I built a tool to help people find stuff. I'm getting sued?"]
"Basically, Napster set out to create its own network specifically for music. What I did was ran a search engine on a campus network [where] the network already existed," Jordan said.
But Jordan did agree to pony up $12,000, his entire savings account, to the RIAA. Jordan and his father, Andy Jordan, felt the settlement was their best option.
[Ed: "They said they would leave me alone if I gave them everything I had."]
"They agreed to allow Jesse to deny their allegations. They agreed to dismiss the case and all allegations against him," Andy said. "Basically they agreed that he didn't do anything wrong, but [they're] taking his 12 grand."
[Ed: "Give us everything you have and we'll forget all about it." Taking cues from Tony Saprano?]
Jesse knew students were sharing files on his network: pictures, PowerPoint presentations, physics notes, anime, and music. But he refutes the RIAA's claim he "hijacked an academic network" and "installed an emporium for music trading."
[Ed: "He's a terrorist to boot!"]
Ruining the Music Business?
Andy believes that the RIAA's intimidating tactics will undoubtedly hurt the music industry by alienating music buyers. An avid music fan for more than 40 years, he shudders at the impact this will have on the industry's most fervent fans.
"I don't know how strongly the music companies â" the people who really run the music companies â" I don't know if they realize what the impact of this misguided attempt at intimidation is going to be," Andy said.
While Andy questions the motives and actions of the RIAA, he basks in pride at his son's steadfast resolve.
[Ed: Exactly what motives do you need to question? Duh.]
"He has stood up to the schoolyard bullies that are pulling this and he's said, 'You are not going to make me say something that's not true,'" Andy said.
ChewPlastic.com is asking for donations to help recover the $12,000 settlement. As of June 6, the site has collected more than $1,700.
Original article: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/T echTV/tech tv_RIAAvsteen030609.html
True. Which is why MS does so well in the market. They can crap all over something if they can't own it. And it crapping doesn't work, then adopt it and be the first ubiquitous supplier. And if that doesn't work, lets see if they'll buy out all the other competitors. Even then, they could come up with another standard to displace it. They have so many options, so that you end up with no options.
Shift in Competition. Valid point. Re-education does shift the area of competition. I'm not sure if it would work as well in theory, but the theory goes that the job market for another industry or role that's in high demand would attract the attention of re-training, thereby "equalizing" that field. In any case, the least desired outcome is for the displaced worker to sit idle without a job after a move.
Supply Chain IMHO it is a rather simplistic approach to consider that "We need more jobs". There are many variables that determine the number of jobs needed for a society or the earth, and the number of jobs required is one of the variables of those others. I would agree, the whole world needs to re-examine Earth's supply chain, but who would agree on what kind of things? Isn't that the attempt govments makes? (just a side note, I work in Supply Chain Management:). One can not deny reproduction. That is a whole can of worms that have been opened before and the realistic understanding is the Earth can indeed feed unbounded population. Whether that is true or not depends on how we cultivate and recycle the resources. Currently with our strategy, this is false. However, with the right strategy, the evidence suggests it is true. I'll give you a hint. Every country has a strategy (and none that covers enough time), but there is no global one. If there is one (a covert organization? Well it certainly isn't the UN lol), it certainly doesn't look like its moving in the direction I'd like to go. I suggest Asimovs Foundation series for a concept.
Duty To The Future Again, accountability is missing here. To say the human race needs to accept it has a duty to generations is misleading. It is in the best interest for individuals in the human race to plan for future offspring. Perhaps I may interpret it as "leaders have an obligation" for the future of a group of them. And leader of leaders for the future of the larger superset. etc.
Resources It is unclear to me what you have written. My guess is that this [1] contradicts the supply chain theory you wrote before [2] how would you propose these people take de-facto guarantors responsibility?
The Others This is a VERY BIG problem. Humanity makes clear arguements against mistreatment of humans, for whatever crimes they commit, against even humanity. Personally, a large source of the problem stems from the lack of natural selection terminating those unsuitable for society. We retain them, at our cost. Humanity's "prime directive" of compassion works at cross-purposes with the goals of furthering the species. Ironic, "compassion" is one of the attributes we consider to be a goal of "progress" for humanity.
This is all correct and the theory is that people who worked in jobs that become defunct, move on to better jobs. The big assumption is that people moved on to biggger'n'better jobs. I can tell you without doubt that a large portion of people in IT did not. How do I know this? Because you hear it on the news, see it in the papers, experience your own frustration as you look at your paycheck from a dead-end consulting contract.
It might work if we had education and re-education for the people we displaced. Sounds like a thought. Make companies pay for the re-education and re-employment to other jobs as a cost of moving their operations. Severance is hardly a compensation for pulling the rug from beneath your feet.
ROTFLMAO. Your perceptions are quite vivid, I must say. Did you make all that up yourself or did you get help? I especially liked Cattle wander the streets while they starve
It's tru though, Check the tags on everything in your house and on your body and you'll see that nothing is made in the US anymore.
Worse yet, when something is made in the US, it's a big hoopla isn't it? There's a big pride thing about being "Made in the USA". I think we're the only ones that put a flag next to our label.
Your premise is misguided. Not all Corporations are out to screw everyone. Correct. "Corporations" are out to make money, whether they screw someone in the process is inconsequential to it, that is unless, again, it impacts them getting money.
Individuals in corporations who make decisions may or may not be out to screw everyone. That's up to the individual and his/her psychiatrist.
Remember, corporations aren't people. It's what our legal system leads you to believe. People still make decisions.
Why is this room "of the future"? The amenities are all items from this day and age and in working order aren't they? Usually when I hear product "of the future" I think of a concept product that is shown emulating it, but not really function.
Is it because in the future it will be commonplace?
Among the niceties of this high-tech hotel room are: - a wall-mounted, 42-inch flat-screen HDTV Panasonic plasma television connected to a Technics receiver with surround-sound Bose speakers; - a biometric room safe that uses a thumbprint as the lock and key; - free broadband, accessible via laptop or the TV; - a Panja touch-panel remote control that manages lighting levels and room climate; opens and closes the drapes; controls the TV, radio, and DVD player; and even repositions the head and foot of the king-size bed; - a Panasonic massage chair, - a heated toilet seat/bidet, - a computerized five-nozzle shower, - and a defogging bathroom mirror.
Or are they implying that the commonplace habits of being on the road will be - Still watch alot of TV, but demand better quality of delivery - Be Paranoid - Be a geek - Be a lazy geek - Be a lazy geek with tension problems - Be a lazy geek with tension problems and a cold ass - Be a REAL geek - Now you're spending way too much time in the bathroom. it's my turn.
It's a nice theory but you forget that equilibrium may never be attainable. Skill and knowledge starts in a location just as it did with all these industries for autmobiles, programming, etc.
So the cycle we have today, will be the cycle we have tomorrow, or hundreds of years from now, just with different industries, different technologies and different products. You'll benefit from the countries establishing better infrastructures, but did you really expect some countries to continue their civilizations on candle-power? The employment cycles and people wallowing in corporate migration-mires will continue. People will always be subject to the fear that they will lose their jobs to outsourcing. Infact it will be easier and faster every time as corporations establish a base of operations in all the potential countries, and have accumulated experience from making these shifts.
One place will always be better than another, in the eyes of a profit-seeker. Making these evaluations and determining the best choice is what executive decision makers get paid big money for, isn't it?
Wired is obviously publishing this to sell magazines. That's what they do. Did you think they needed any other ulterior motive? The question is who is their audience?
This benefits none of the hackers. Those that are savvy enough to make use of the code, have no need for the code being published in the magazine. They've already seen it, they may have even toyed with it, might have done so back in January. More than likely, they may read it at their magshop or borrow it from someone for amusement purposes. Perhaps they may purchase it. Certainly the creater of the worm will. Clipped and saved in some album.
This benefits none of the lay technology folks, the larger band of their customers. They don't have enough background on assembly and how it works, and they haven't the tools. The motivation is there though. If they could get it to work, they could call their friends up and brag about how much a hacker s/he is.
Completely lay person as someone pointed out will look at it like hieroglyphics. Raise an eyebrow and move on.
Corporations in the industry. Here's a mixed bag. Raising awareness and de-mystifying can work in both ways. AV companies may benefit, they may not. Raising awareness may result in more sales of AV products by confirming in the public's eye that such things do exist, and with higher frequency, with more substantial impacts. It may lower the sales if the information is provided in a certain manner (for example, you don't run SQL, therefore you don't need AV for this).
IMHO, I think it will increase business in the industry as a whole. That's what advertising is all about, isn't it? Raising awareness for products? I mean, how could you know you needed a spring-loaded-nose-picker, if you didn't see the commercial warning you about the possible dangers of snot-clog-respiratory syndrome?
Well atleast we know he's not a Korean trying to shamelessly plug the Koreans.
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Yes you have a valid point.
However, I wouldn't be going off half-cocked to say that it is also in the best interest and the very nature of capitalism to abuse it. We have living proof of it everyday. Capitalism is a great policy. For corporations. It's not great policy for govments and their institutions. A health awareness of this in the patent office may help. Just a suggestion.
To answer your point more directly, PEOPLE, deserve patents. The debates you see more often than not about stupid patents that have such far-reaching impacts are not people filing patents. It is corporations that file patents. And since we have established that corporations deserve treatment similar that a person does in our legal eyes...
Yes it appears so, as so many/.'ers have been pointing out. However, it our duty as/.'ers to be paranoid about marketing ploys and devious contraptions, and to holler foul at the slightest wink or discoloration. Trecherous your words are to calm the public with such empty logic.
Yeah, I think more than a few people used that "Report error" links.
Or rather a) it isn't what people think it was b) it wasn't what people think it was c) it isn't what people think it is d) it wasn't what people think was
or maybe it is EXACTLY what people think it is and was. er... some people.
Far before that. Far before a previous account I used to use before I decided change in attitude and opinions prompted a change in identity. The internet is anonymous you fool. The comments are a debate about topics. Not a personal soap opera.
Its not just the stupidity factor. It's also the encompassing nature and impact to our lives and our choices that makes a stupid patent one which is controversial. Patenting Video On Demand will decide for you whether you watch MS programming, or none at all. Novell's patent is hardly visible to the majority of people. Hell, I'd venture a guess that most/.'ers didn't even know. I didn't.
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And you want to motivate people to invent things, with money? Is that how we get all these carrot pealing toasters and refrigerated curl irons?
And how silly of me to think that we would want people to invent things because it would be cool, usefull, or helpful, to humanity, a friend, or people in your community.
You are absolutely correct. Inventing is now all about money. End of statement. It's very true. It's not about creativity, convenience, fun or art.
Thank you. I didn't want to be the one to tell him.
I'll add my 0.02. Business rewards the risk takers. Whether they be entrepenuers, or quality assurance managers on shuttle designs. That is until something goes wrong. But that's what risk taking is all about isn't it?
And it ain't no typo. #CC3333 is nowhere close to #006666.
Nothing wrong with a little money in the pocket. But really, does Taco think we'll live it down? Atleast be honest about it...
"And here's a word from my sponsor, so please go click on their link and gimme some doe. Or I'll inundate your day with no/. or worse, I'll pop MS propaganda on you."
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I don't think you need to worry about your Karma. Your sentiments reflect a large majority of posters here and I would find it amusing at most if anyone troll-modded that.
Talk about blatant intimidation...
T echTV/tech tv_RIAAvsteen030609.html
"You go to the site, you type in a search term, and it finds files on the network," Jordan said. Jordan compares his site to Google, the popular Internet search engine.
[Ed: "I built a tool to help people find stuff. I'm getting sued?"]
But the RIAA likens Jordan's site to Napster, the now defunct song-swap service that revolutionized the distribution of music.
"The people who run these Napster networks know full well what they are doing: Operating a sophisticated network designed to enable widespread music thievery," Cary Sherman, the president of the RIAA, said in a statement issued April 3.
"The lawsuits we've filed represent an appropriate step given the seriousness of the offense," Sherman added.
[Ed: "I don't care what it is, it's ruining my business damnit!"]
"I didn't tell people what to share. I never promoted piracy," Jordan said.
[Ed: "I built a tool to help people find stuff. I'm getting sued?"]
"Basically, Napster set out to create its own network specifically for music. What I did was ran a search engine on a campus network [where] the network already existed," Jordan said.
But Jordan did agree to pony up $12,000, his entire savings account, to the RIAA. Jordan and his father, Andy Jordan, felt the settlement was their best option.
[Ed: "They said they would leave me alone if I gave them everything I had."]
"They agreed to allow Jesse to deny their allegations. They agreed to dismiss the case and all allegations against him," Andy said. "Basically they agreed that he didn't do anything wrong, but [they're] taking his 12 grand."
[Ed: "Give us everything you have and we'll forget all about it." Taking cues from Tony Saprano?]
Jesse knew students were sharing files on his network: pictures, PowerPoint presentations, physics notes, anime, and music. But he refutes the RIAA's claim he "hijacked an academic network" and "installed an emporium for music trading."
[Ed: "He's a terrorist to boot!"]
Ruining the Music Business?
Andy believes that the RIAA's intimidating tactics will undoubtedly hurt the music industry by alienating music buyers. An avid music fan for more than 40 years, he shudders at the impact this will have on the industry's most fervent fans.
"I don't know how strongly the music companies â" the people who really run the music companies â" I don't know if they realize what the impact of this misguided attempt at intimidation is going to be," Andy said.
While Andy questions the motives and actions of the RIAA, he basks in pride at his son's steadfast resolve.
[Ed: Exactly what motives do you need to question? Duh.]
"He has stood up to the schoolyard bullies that are pulling this and he's said, 'You are not going to make me say something that's not true,'" Andy said.
ChewPlastic.com is asking for donations to help recover the $12,000 settlement. As of June 6, the site has collected more than $1,700.
Original article:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/
True. Which is why MS does so well in the market. They can crap all over something if they can't own it. And it crapping doesn't work, then adopt it and be the first ubiquitous supplier. And if that doesn't work, lets see if they'll buy out all the other competitors. Even then, they could come up with another standard to displace it. They have so many options, so that you end up with no options.
Shift in Competition.
:). One can not deny reproduction. That is a whole can of worms that have been opened before and the realistic understanding is the Earth can indeed feed unbounded population. Whether that is true or not depends on how we cultivate and recycle the resources. Currently with our strategy, this is false. However, with the right strategy, the evidence suggests it is true. I'll give you a hint. Every country has a strategy (and none that covers enough time), but there is no global one. If there is one (a covert organization? Well it certainly isn't the UN lol), it certainly doesn't look like its moving in the direction I'd like to go. I suggest Asimovs Foundation series for a concept.
Valid point. Re-education does shift the area of competition. I'm not sure if it would work as well in theory, but the theory goes that the job market for another industry or role that's in high demand would attract the attention of re-training, thereby "equalizing" that field. In any case, the least desired outcome is for the displaced worker to sit idle without a job after a move.
Supply Chain
IMHO it is a rather simplistic approach to consider that "We need more jobs". There are many variables that determine the number of jobs needed for a society or the earth, and the number of jobs required is one of the variables of those others. I would agree, the whole world needs to re-examine Earth's supply chain, but who would agree on what kind of things? Isn't that the attempt govments makes? (just a side note, I work in Supply Chain Management
Duty To The Future
Again, accountability is missing here. To say the human race needs to accept it has a duty to generations is misleading. It is in the best interest for individuals in the human race to plan for future offspring. Perhaps I may interpret it as "leaders have an obligation" for the future of a group of them. And leader of leaders for the future of the larger superset. etc.
Resources
It is unclear to me what you have written. My guess is that this [1] contradicts the supply chain theory you wrote before [2] how would you propose these people take de-facto guarantors responsibility?
The Others
This is a VERY BIG problem. Humanity makes clear arguements against mistreatment of humans, for whatever crimes they commit, against even humanity. Personally, a large source of the problem stems from the lack of natural selection terminating those unsuitable for society. We retain them, at our cost. Humanity's "prime directive" of compassion works at cross-purposes with the goals of furthering the species. Ironic, "compassion" is one of the attributes we consider to be a goal of "progress" for humanity.
This is all correct and the theory is that people who worked in jobs that become defunct, move on to better jobs. The big assumption is that people moved on to biggger'n'better jobs. I can tell you without doubt that a large portion of people in IT did not. How do I know this? Because you hear it on the news, see it in the papers, experience your own frustration as you look at your paycheck from a dead-end consulting contract.
It might work if we had education and re-education for the people we displaced. Sounds like a thought. Make companies pay for the re-education and re-employment to other jobs as a cost of moving their operations. Severance is hardly a compensation for pulling the rug from beneath your feet.
ROTFLMAO. Your perceptions are quite vivid, I must say. Did you make all that up yourself or did you get help? I especially liked
Cattle wander the streets while they starve
It's tru though, Check the tags on everything in your house and on your body and you'll see that nothing is made in the US anymore.
Worse yet, when something is made in the US, it's a big hoopla isn't it? There's a big pride thing about being "Made in the USA". I think we're the only ones that put a flag next to our label.
JAFO
Your premise is misguided. Not all Corporations are out to screw everyone. Correct. "Corporations" are out to make money, whether they screw someone in the process is inconsequential to it, that is unless, again, it impacts them getting money.
Individuals in corporations who make decisions may or may not be out to screw everyone. That's up to the individual and his/her psychiatrist.
Remember, corporations aren't people. It's what our legal system leads you to believe. People still make decisions.
Why is this room "of the future"? The amenities are all items from this day and age and in working order aren't they? Usually when I hear product "of the future" I think of a concept product that is shown emulating it, but not really function.
Is it because in the future it will be commonplace?
Among the niceties of this high-tech hotel room are:
- a wall-mounted, 42-inch flat-screen HDTV Panasonic plasma television connected to a Technics receiver with surround-sound Bose speakers;
- a biometric room safe that uses a thumbprint as the lock and key;
- free broadband, accessible via laptop or the TV;
- a Panja touch-panel remote control that manages lighting levels and room climate; opens and closes the drapes; controls the TV, radio, and DVD player; and even repositions the head and foot of the king-size bed;
- a Panasonic massage chair,
- a heated toilet seat/bidet,
- a computerized five-nozzle shower,
- and a defogging bathroom mirror.
Or are they implying that the commonplace habits of being on the road will be
- Still watch alot of TV, but demand better quality of delivery
- Be Paranoid
- Be a geek
- Be a lazy geek
- Be a lazy geek with tension problems
- Be a lazy geek with tension problems and a cold ass
- Be a REAL geek
- Now you're spending way too much time in the bathroom. it's my turn.
Good point. Why are you asking for something you already have? Especially if its the very thing you are going to court over?
It's a nice theory but you forget that equilibrium may never be attainable. Skill and knowledge starts in a location just as it did with all these industries for autmobiles, programming, etc.
So the cycle we have today, will be the cycle we have tomorrow, or hundreds of years from now, just with different industries, different technologies and different products. You'll benefit from the countries establishing better infrastructures, but did you really expect some countries to continue their civilizations on candle-power? The employment cycles and people wallowing in corporate migration-mires will continue. People will always be subject to the fear that they will lose their jobs to outsourcing. Infact it will be easier and faster every time as corporations establish a base of operations in all the potential countries, and have accumulated experience from making these shifts.
One place will always be better than another, in the eyes of a profit-seeker. Making these evaluations and determining the best choice is what executive decision makers get paid big money for, isn't it?
Waiting for his girlfriend to get back to him?
This is why Linux users are less suceptible to worms...
Eureka! It all makes sense to me now. Thank u.
Wired is obviously publishing this to sell magazines. That's what they do. Did you think they needed any other ulterior motive? The question is who is their audience?
This benefits none of the hackers. Those that are savvy enough to make use of the code, have no need for the code being published in the magazine. They've already seen it, they may have even toyed with it, might have done so back in January. More than likely, they may read it at their magshop or borrow it from someone for amusement purposes. Perhaps they may purchase it. Certainly the creater of the worm will. Clipped and saved in some album.
This benefits none of the lay technology folks, the larger band of their customers. They don't have enough background on assembly and how it works, and they haven't the tools. The motivation is there though. If they could get it to work, they could call their friends up and brag about how much a hacker s/he is.
Completely lay person as someone pointed out will look at it like hieroglyphics. Raise an eyebrow and move on.
Corporations in the industry. Here's a mixed bag. Raising awareness and de-mystifying can work in both ways. AV companies may benefit, they may not. Raising awareness may result in more sales of AV products by confirming in the public's eye that such things do exist, and with higher frequency, with more substantial impacts. It may lower the sales if the information is provided in a certain manner (for example, you don't run SQL, therefore you don't need AV for this).
IMHO, I think it will increase business in the industry as a whole. That's what advertising is all about, isn't it? Raising awareness for products? I mean, how could you know you needed a spring-loaded-nose-picker, if you didn't see the commercial warning you about the possible dangers of snot-clog-respiratory syndrome?
Well atleast we know he's not a Korean trying to shamelessly plug the Koreans.
Yes you have a valid point.
However, I wouldn't be going off half-cocked to say that it is also in the best interest and the very nature of capitalism to abuse it. We have living proof of it everyday. Capitalism is a great policy. For corporations. It's not great policy for govments and their institutions. A health awareness of this in the patent office may help. Just a suggestion.
To answer your point more directly, PEOPLE, deserve patents. The debates you see more often than not about stupid patents that have such far-reaching impacts are not people filing patents. It is corporations that file patents. And since we have established that corporations deserve treatment similar that a person does in our legal eyes...
Yes it appears so, as so many /.'ers have been pointing out. However, it our duty as /.'ers to be paranoid about marketing ploys and devious contraptions, and to holler foul at the slightest wink or discoloration. Trecherous your words are to calm the public with such empty logic.
Yeah, I think more than a few people used that "Report error" links.
Or rather
a) it isn't what people think it was
b) it wasn't what people think it was
c) it isn't what people think it is
d) it wasn't what people think was
or maybe it is EXACTLY what people think it is and was. er... some people.
Far before that. Far before a previous account I used to use before I decided change in attitude and opinions prompted a change in identity. The internet is anonymous you fool. The comments are a debate about topics. Not a personal soap opera.
Not a major MFN facility. THE major MFN facility. Atleast the ISX/ISP part. Though MFN runs a great deal more than Abovenet's relics.
Its not just the stupidity factor. It's also the encompassing nature and impact to our lives and our choices that makes a stupid patent one which is controversial. Patenting Video On Demand will decide for you whether you watch MS programming, or none at all. Novell's patent is hardly visible to the majority of people. Hell, I'd venture a guess that most /.'ers didn't even know. I didn't.
And you want to motivate people to invent things, with money? Is that how we get all these carrot pealing toasters and refrigerated curl irons?
And how silly of me to think that we would want people to invent things because it would be cool, usefull, or helpful, to humanity, a friend, or people in your community.
You are absolutely correct. Inventing is now all about money. End of statement. It's very true.
It's not about creativity, convenience, fun or art.
Oh yeah? Gimme a nerf ball and 500MPH launcher. I'll show you. Poke your eye out I will! ;L
Thank you. I didn't want to be the one to tell him.
I'll add my 0.02. Business rewards the risk takers. Whether they be entrepenuers, or quality assurance managers on shuttle designs. That is until something goes wrong. But that's what risk taking is all about isn't it?
More to the point of this whole thing...
Think about ANYTHING hitting you at 500MPH. DUH?
And it ain't no typo. #CC3333 is nowhere close to #006666.
/. or worse, I'll pop MS propaganda on you."
Nothing wrong with a little money in the pocket. But really, does Taco think we'll live it down? Atleast be honest about it...
"And here's a word from my sponsor, so please go click on their link and gimme some doe. Or I'll inundate your day with no
Is Taco feelin a bit loopy this morning? ;L