I have mixed feelings about this. I loved the concept of NWN but it never seemed to work out quite right. And it seemed to me that the community took FOREVER to get any good standalone mods out. I hope NWN2 has better support and modeling for persistent worlds, because thats what most people wanted and NWN really didn't work out well for it.
Is it part of the advertisers rights to get what they paid for? Targetted advertising to readers of a certain demographic group? Becuase they're not getting that. Everyone is from the 90210.
And the demographics aren't for their news coverage, anyway. It's usually for advertising purposes. And just like TV, advertising can pay the bulk of the money incurred in putting the publication together and the bandwidth fees to let you read it
Fair enough, but then the advertisers are getting screwed, since there's so much fake data all that valuable targetted advertising is being wasted on a bunch of schmoes. Its not the worst thing in the world, but its pretty slimy on the part of the newspaper to put up a front saying that the data is good, the data is sound, question the man but never the data.
And too bad for the mom&pop businesses in the 90210 who paid money for targetted advertising, are getting thousands of views but no one ever calls...
they offer it for free because they can get paid for targetted advertising from advertisers. but they aren't getting good information from users who resent having to give their information, which leads to bad data and bad targetting. Eventually, they'll lose that money.
Now, if you can't find a paper for free, you're not looking hard enough. people leave them lying out for the next person all over the place. So really, reading it on the web isnt much different. Its all free.
Sure thats fine and all, but theyre using this information for advertising purposes. They're saying that the information they're gathering is accurate, when it's clearly not. That means the advertisers are not necessarily reaching the audience the news organization says they're reaching. That's misleading and wrong. That's "what"
I still resent having to register for newspaper sites. I don't need to register to pick one up at the newsstand, why should I for the site? Demographics blah blah blah but its not like the Chicago Tribune is going to start covering Denver news if a bunch of people from Colorado start reading it. They're going to be about Chicago, no matter who reads it.
I'm just glad google news has a partnership where you dont have to register when you use their links.
I'm curious to see what it gets. I noticed on Gamerankings.com that all the earliest magazine reviews gave it a 9.4 -- the site members were giving it about an 8.6. It did strike me as odd that the first 3 reviews were exactly the same rating...but I guess that's not impossible.
No not for anyone living today...but I'm sure he understood "in the long run" -- little things done or not done now could have huge significance (to humanity) far in the future. But you'll never know it, at least not until we can upload our brains into computers.
But if we learn to understand the universe, learn to leave the earth and branch out into the massive universe, there's that many more tiny specks to care about, more people to have more bundles of joy. Importance isn't measured in meters...but it can be if we end up with a dirty, overpopulated, polluted square meter for everyone here....and nowhere else to go.
I think his real point was that we should move past our trivial quibblings and take in the majesty of the universe. Wars and disagreements are trivial compared to bringing knowledge to humanity and moving humanity out to the stars.
exactly like binary trees and linked lists. better develop a new algorithm, but dont call it an algorithm, since those are taught too, if you want to develop any sort of program. basically, the school owned you and anything you produced while you were there. I never heard of them actually enforcing it, but just knowing they could was a little...ominous.
while you were at university. in other words, if you develop it at home in your "spare time" and it has anything in it that was taught to you by them...its theirs.
I remember while at University we CS students basically signed a waiver saying anything we developed while in school, or using a computer in the lab, or using any concepts taught in class, was property of the university.
well this is assuming you survive the nano-plague that killed 90% of your fellow humans. you survived, though not without great pain, illness and physical torture by the nanoplague. Often you wished you'd rather have been dead. Luckily, Susie Thomas also survived, and you were able to prove that her earlier "not if you were the last man on earth" protests and rebuffs were just hyperbole. THEN you were able to sire said little rugrats, who just now happen to be resistant to the great nanoplague, thanks to yours and susie's just-barely-resistant-enough genes. Though you'd rather be dead.
oh man dont even get me started about the e-cards. luckily, her computer musta gotten fed up with them because it just locks up now whenver she goes there. In IE or firefox. Now she's too afraid to go there, and I'm too pleased attempt to think about fixing it.
Now if I could just get her to understand that she doesnt have to close and reopen the browswer whenever she's done with a page...
Frankly I doubt desktop search would help my Mom find things on her computer at all. Heck she can't get hold of the concept of searching for things online. (I've told her about snopes.com to look up to see if something she gets is an urban legend or not and she still forwards them to me and asks me to do it.)
Good point. Same thing happens to me. I switched her to Firefox and she freaked out because the Google box in the upper right was different. She didn't know what to do after she typed in what she was searching for -- On the IE toolbar there's a "search" button. Telling her just to press "enter" was far more difficult a concept than I ever realized.
Yes, we do need desktop search. Computer Users usually know what they have and where...but the Average User (like, my mom) has a lot of trouble. She can never seem to remember where she saved something, or what she named it. The My Documents concept has helped, but she still gets confused. She has often asked me why she can search the internet but not her computer, or at least why it takes so long to search the computer compared to the net.
I haven't even put photos on her computer, I tried it once and it was a mess. She had no idea what was what or where. Desktop searching for the average person = good.
Not nearly impossible. And the odds of them coming out with a good product are not nil either. Remember when IE was accepted as better than Netscape? It changed the way a browswer "was" -- they could do it again.
Of course, if they do, and wipe out the competition and dissolve the team, it'll be the IE problems all over again.
in a recent./ story the celera genomics guy was being criticized for being such an egomaniac that he used his own DNA to decode the human genome. I took some flak for saying it wasn't a big deal, but i guess a lot of people disagree with me.
yeah i got involved in a little bruhaha in the other thread about him (venter) using his own dna. I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I guess I'm in the minority. I got threadjumped and no one seemed to take my side! so be it. He is a bit of an egomaniac but that doesnt mean he has bad science.
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I have mixed feelings about this. I loved the concept of NWN but it never seemed to work out quite right. And it seemed to me that the community took FOREVER to get any good standalone mods out. I hope NWN2 has better support and modeling for persistent worlds, because thats what most people wanted and NWN really didn't work out well for it.
I have high hopes though.
Is it part of the advertisers rights to get what they paid for? Targetted advertising to readers of a certain demographic group? Becuase they're not getting that. Everyone is from the 90210.
And the demographics aren't for their news coverage, anyway. It's usually for advertising purposes. And just like TV, advertising can pay the bulk of the money incurred in putting the publication together and the bandwidth fees to let you read it
Fair enough, but then the advertisers are getting screwed, since there's so much fake data all that valuable targetted advertising is being wasted on a bunch of schmoes. Its not the worst thing in the world, but its pretty slimy on the part of the newspaper to put up a front saying that the data is good, the data is sound, question the man but never the data.
And too bad for the mom&pop businesses in the 90210 who paid money for targetted advertising, are getting thousands of views but no one ever calls...
they offer it for free because they can get paid for targetted advertising from advertisers. but they aren't getting good information from users who resent having to give their information, which leads to bad data and bad targetting. Eventually, they'll lose that money.
Now, if you can't find a paper for free, you're not looking hard enough. people leave them lying out for the next person all over the place. So really, reading it on the web isnt much different. Its all free.
Sure thats fine and all, but theyre using this information for advertising purposes. They're saying that the information they're gathering is accurate, when it's clearly not. That means the advertisers are not necessarily reaching the audience the news organization says they're reaching. That's misleading and wrong. That's "what"
I still resent having to register for newspaper sites. I don't need to register to pick one up at the newsstand, why should I for the site? Demographics blah blah blah but its not like the Chicago Tribune is going to start covering Denver news if a bunch of people from Colorado start reading it. They're going to be about Chicago, no matter who reads it.
I'm just glad google news has a partnership where you dont have to register when you use their links.
I'm patently annoyed by censorship. Does that count?
I'm curious to see what it gets. I noticed on Gamerankings.com that all the earliest magazine reviews gave it a 9.4 -- the site members were giving it about an 8.6. It did strike me as odd that the first 3 reviews were exactly the same rating...but I guess that's not impossible.
No not for anyone living today...but I'm sure he understood "in the long run" -- little things done or not done now could have huge significance (to humanity) far in the future. But you'll never know it, at least not until we can upload our brains into computers.
But if we learn to understand the universe, learn to leave the earth and branch out into the massive universe, there's that many more tiny specks to care about, more people to have more bundles of joy. Importance isn't measured in meters...but it can be if we end up with a dirty, overpopulated, polluted square meter for everyone here....and nowhere else to go.
I think his real point was that we should move past our trivial quibblings and take in the majesty of the universe. Wars and disagreements are trivial compared to bringing knowledge to humanity and moving humanity out to the stars.
exactly like binary trees and linked lists. better develop a new algorithm, but dont call it an algorithm, since those are taught too, if you want to develop any sort of program. basically, the school owned you and anything you produced while you were there. I never heard of them actually enforcing it, but just knowing they could was a little...ominous.
while you were at university. in other words, if you develop it at home in your "spare time" and it has anything in it that was taught to you by them...its theirs.
I remember while at University we CS students basically signed a waiver saying anything we developed while in school, or using a computer in the lab, or using any concepts taught in class, was property of the university.
Way to encourage original thought.
I agree. I can only hope that Civ4 incorporates the best parts of SMAC that were totally overlooked when making Civ3.
Susie will give in, once I release the nano-plague...
did i just post that?
well this is assuming you survive the nano-plague that killed 90% of your fellow humans. you survived, though not without great pain, illness and physical torture by the nanoplague. Often you wished you'd rather have been dead. Luckily, Susie Thomas also survived, and you were able to prove that her earlier "not if you were the last man on earth" protests and rebuffs were just hyperbole. THEN you were able to sire said little rugrats, who just now happen to be resistant to the great nanoplague, thanks to yours and susie's just-barely-resistant-enough genes. Though you'd rather be dead.
oh man dont even get me started about the e-cards. luckily, her computer musta gotten fed up with them because it just locks up now whenver she goes there. In IE or firefox. Now she's too afraid to go there, and I'm too pleased attempt to think about fixing it.
Now if I could just get her to understand that she doesnt have to close and reopen the browswer whenever she's done with a page...
evolution doesnt help the little guy. just your great^10 grandchildren.
Frankly I doubt desktop search would help my Mom find things on her computer at all. Heck she can't get hold of the concept of searching for things online. (I've told her about snopes.com to look up to see if something she gets is an urban legend or not and she still forwards them to me and asks me to do it.)
Good point. Same thing happens to me. I switched her to Firefox and she freaked out because the Google box in the upper right was different. She didn't know what to do after she typed in what she was searching for -- On the IE toolbar there's a "search" button. Telling her just to press "enter" was far more difficult a concept than I ever realized.
But the louder you are, on the internet, thats the same as being better. Drowns out the competition
That's how spam works, right?
Yes, we do need desktop search. Computer Users usually know what they have and where...but the Average User (like, my mom) has a lot of trouble. She can never seem to remember where she saved something, or what she named it. The My Documents concept has helped, but she still gets confused. She has often asked me why she can search the internet but not her computer, or at least why it takes so long to search the computer compared to the net.
I haven't even put photos on her computer, I tried it once and it was a mess. She had no idea what was what or where. Desktop searching for the average person = good.
Not nearly impossible. And the odds of them coming out with a good product are not nil either. Remember when IE was accepted as better than Netscape? It changed the way a browswer "was" -- they could do it again.
Of course, if they do, and wipe out the competition and dissolve the team, it'll be the IE problems all over again.
in a recent ./ story the celera genomics guy was being criticized for being such an egomaniac that he used his own DNA to decode the human genome. I took some flak for saying it wasn't a big deal, but i guess a lot of people disagree with me.
yeah i got involved in a little bruhaha in the other thread about him (venter) using his own dna. I didn't see anything wrong with it, but I guess I'm in the minority. I got threadjumped and no one seemed to take my side! so be it. He is a bit of an egomaniac but that doesnt mean he has bad science.