They're stating how much it costs to interface with their.NET services (Calendar, E-mail, To-do). This is a strategy to stifle virus/worm development by out-pricing the virus-writers. If SirCam (a large app?) was written to utilize mailboxes for forwarding through Microsoft's.NETit would cost the developer $10k per year. The likelyhood of this fellow paying those costs would be slim so the worm will easily be prevented from propogating.
Very smart, Mr. Ballmer, very smart...
"This hurts me more than it hurts you..."
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My parents use to say this to me before they use to whip me with the plastic race track that was part of a set to my Matchbox Racecars.
Now, if you've ever been whipped by one of those, you would know the if the subject line to this post was uttered prior to the beating you would never trust that person again.
I know this will be unpopular with many people, myself included,..<snip>...I could just say 'No' to changes like these...
I find it hard to believe that if Taco said "No" to these changes it'd actually make a difference as to whether it was implemented or not. VA Linux has a slew of unhappy stockholders and they only give a shit about one thing which is profit.
I'm also wondering what sparc system this fellow is using to report such high CPU usage. Current specs from dual-pIII 800's.
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<BR>1% CPU on one processor
<BR>4% on the other
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<BR>I have VMWare running Win2k Advanced Server in my other window with 512 megs RAM total in the box and Evolution Beta 0.16.99 and Galeon to type in slashdot. Gnome 1.4 w/Sawfish & Nautilus drawing the background (I like Verdana for my desktop fonts); lotsa applets in the panels & gkrellm.
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<BR>cat/proc/meminfo
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total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
<BR>Mem: 526299136 521420800 4878336 0 4407296 255361024
<BR>Swap: 526409728 3760128 522649600
<BR>MemTotal: 513964 kB
<BR>MemFree: 4764 kB
<BR>MemShared: kB
<BR>Buffers: 4304 kB
<BR>Cached: 248456 kB
<BR>SwapCached: 920 kB
<BR>Active: 84472 kB
<BR>Inactive: 169208 kB
<BR>HighTotal: kB
<BR>HighFree: 0 kB
<BR>LowTotal: 513964 kB
<BR>LowFree: 4764 kB
<BR>SwapTotal: 514072 kB
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<BR>Looks okay so far. Let's check load average...
<BR>cat/proc/loadavg
<BR>0.08 0.05 0.01 1/83 5268
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<BR>Wow, looks good!
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<BR>Looks to me like the troll should go back under the bridge...
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The real reason to use Ogg is that it's not encumbered by patents
That does not like much of an argument on Ogg's behalf; the processor decoding your Ogg-Vorbis is "encumbered by patents" and you probably are not investigating alternatives. There are many patents applied to the hardware/software running my Linux box and for the most part it does not effect my day-to-day usage. Same with MP3. The truth of the matter is that MP3 is more prevalent as an encoding source and I will use it for the flexibility it gives me; I can move my MP3's from home to the office or onto a portable with ease.
If Ogg gets more popular then maybe I would consider using it. I don't use Linux/Debian because of the "open-source" aspect; I use it because I prefer it as a desktop and like the freedom and customability of it. I also use (horrors!) Nvidia drivers (closed-source) which perform excellently w/ Q3A (patents on the engine).
I could go on with this but it'd be redundant. Any person who would blindly follow any cause without examination is sad as any lemming.
Even if the design for the P4 was rolled out in stone 6 years ago there are changes implemented that makes this nothing more than a press release. I agree with the poster below that they took moore's law and threw in a margin of error.
Why would any CPU manufacturer attempt to predict processor design & clock speed six years into the future? It will be 2007 before this statement can be tested for validity at which point processor design could have changed drastically. Perhaps I should phone Cleo and ask her what the bus speed of my motherboard will be in 2010?
My taken of English do not have to gush so as to I must send that fact in the first place. The PDA in issue is undeniably excellent in the relative use of OS technology underlying since I have an unit of demo that I have obtained through my brother-in-law that works in the zone of search and development of Sharp. Thanks.
Agree. They should have a feedback form that addresses that question. "Does your development environment use Linux and, if so, would you be interested in a port?". Seems pretty simple.
You know that alot of hits to your site are from scientists interested in scientific application of the compiler through your web logs so why not apply the same type of analysis to the idea of a port? People interested in the product are going to go to your site so it make the most sense to ask it there instead of a general forum that is frequented by developers but is not wholly devoted to them (hence, Jon Katz).
Re:NVidia driver broken under 2.4.10? :(
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NVIDIA GeForce2 MX but my IgnoreEDID option is in the "Monitor" section. Worked fine with "make clean", "make install" under 2.4.10. I have AGP disabled (would freeze after running GL apps. Here's my section:
My office is in a building which appears in the deep-ocre colored section; lower, right-hand corner - listed as "damaged but stable". I've been in the building working all last week and besides the fact that they're hestitant to run the AC (too much dust) there's nothing wrong with it.
Maybe they classify dusty filter systems as "damaged"?
If you figured that linking "hire me!" on the bottom of the results could be interpreted wrong ("I thought it was a bit slimey") then you should have gone with your instincts.
Sorry you feel the need to defend yourself but the original comment above was more directed at Slashdot for this combo "sensationalism/advertorial" posting under the heading of "News for Nerds". This was a sampling from a mailing list that, while interesting, does not take much into account and holds as much water as those '"it sucks" vs "it rocks"' sampling via a search engine.
This is more like a resume for an out-of-work perl-monkey. If he'd really like to do statistical analysis he should should take into account growth of list members, number of postings total, etc.
So what do we have here? Some fellow who just posted a "hey, look at me" resume onto slashdot; not much meat and a sorry excuse for a story.
I imagine a great way to get folks to install al Trojan would be via a Makefile. Folks will su prior to "make install" and at this point the program could simply drop in an executable & fork it in the background.
A simple fake CERT-like e-mail with the source code for a "virus detector" linked could do the job quite easily. Inside of the relevant benign code could be a binary that gets copied in and does the dirty deed (how many people read *every* line of a Makefile?
Truth be told, everyone on/. is stating that a person would have to be stupid to run an untrusted binary but modern virus/trojan/worm infection is more about social-engineering in order to enable infection. "this must be safe, they distribute it in source code..."
As a security-conscious sysadmin one must learn to never think they are immune from such things.
Didn't really mean to criticize the person who released the added functionality. After looking into it more it seems it's an impressive hack, though, to a serious limitation with the database.
Really, though, I hope the release does not dampen any other development efforts that may be going on for true SP support within MySQL.
Why didn't they use a Transact-SQL compatible stored proc syntax? This would ease migrating and also enable people who prototype DBs on MySQL to move it to either Sybase or MS-SQL with a minimal of fuss.
I'm not saying Transact-SQL is great or anything but it'd be nice if it was a bit more compatible with other systems.
The article pretty much infers that their code is optimized for Linux and Intel, meaning they may be utilizing specific instruction sets that would probably have to be *ported* to AMD's. You can bet your bottom dallar that they've pretty much standardized their graphics cards in the boxen as well.
This makes sense since their custom software is for use in a controlled environment. They perfect it for specific setups rather than getting it to perform evenly across different chipsets such as commercial software vendors might attempt.
So overall I do not think he was equating AMD with FreeBSD as other alternatives so much as stating that they've got something that works and they're rolling with it.
Even if the product is as successful as Apache I can't see them making enough $$ for the payroll of supporting all these sites w/o significantly slashing across-the-board. They even state on the osdn.com about page that banner ads & VALinux kept them afloat: here (bottom of page) or for an excerpt: And please don't forget our advertisers, business partners or the kind people at our parent company, VA Linux; they're the ones who pay our salaries and buy the bandwidth for 100 million pageviews a month. Without their support, we wouldn't be able to supply OSDN services free, and give away free OSDN memberships.
If VA-Linux was keeping OSDN afloat then how the hell is OSDN going to keep VA-Linux going? By swapping banner ads with partners? If support of SourceForge software was such good business then what could be a better sell than to bundle it pre-configured on VA-Linux servers? But wait, "who'd want to pay 4k for free software on a development server that would never see incredibly high traffic to justify the cost", you ask? Well, then, who the hell is going to pay 10k for VA/OSDN to set it up? Or do you VA/OSDN could fly consultants around the country for two-week projects at a lower cost than that?
Any VA-Linux stockholder should feel they've just fell victim to the ol' bait-n-switch. "We're a hardware company, no...a publishing company, no, wait...a software company..." Next you'll hear that they're going into B2B which, as everyone knows, is the death-rattle of any "new-economy" company.
Where is this army of developers "drooling over OSX" that weren't already developing for the MacOS? The only reason Hubbard probably jumped ship was for the paycheck.
I really think this would make a good poll..."Who's planning on moving to developing for the Mac after OSX who were not already doing so?". I'm sure the numbers won't be impressive.
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They're stating how much it costs to interface with their .NET services (Calendar, E-mail, To-do). This is a strategy to stifle virus/worm development by out-pricing the virus-writers. If SirCam (a large app?) was written to utilize mailboxes for forwarding through Microsoft's .NETit would cost the developer $10k per year. The likelyhood of this fellow paying those costs would be slim so the worm will easily be prevented from propogating.
Very smart, Mr. Ballmer, very smart...
Now, if you've ever been whipped by one of those, you would know the if the subject line to this post was uttered prior to the beating you would never trust that person again.
I find it hard to believe that if Taco said "No" to these changes it'd actually make a difference as to whether it was implemented or not. VA Linux has a slew of unhappy stockholders and they only give a shit about one thing which is profit.
Goodbye, Slashdot...
I'm also wondering what sparc system this fellow is using to report such high CPU usage. Current specs from dual-pIII 800's. /proc/meminfo
/proc/loadavg
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<BR>1% CPU on one processor
<BR>4% on the other
<BR>
<BR>I have VMWare running Win2k Advanced Server in my other window with 512 megs RAM total in the box and Evolution Beta 0.16.99 and Galeon to type in slashdot. Gnome 1.4 w/Sawfish & Nautilus drawing the background (I like Verdana for my desktop fonts); lotsa applets in the panels & gkrellm.
<BR>
<BR>cat
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total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
<BR>Mem: 526299136 521420800 4878336 0 4407296 255361024
<BR>Swap: 526409728 3760128 522649600
<BR>MemTotal: 513964 kB
<BR>MemFree: 4764 kB
<BR>MemShared: kB
<BR>Buffers: 4304 kB
<BR>Cached: 248456 kB
<BR>SwapCached: 920 kB
<BR>Active: 84472 kB
<BR>Inactive: 169208 kB
<BR>HighTotal: kB
<BR>HighFree: 0 kB
<BR>LowTotal: 513964 kB
<BR>LowFree: 4764 kB
<BR>SwapTotal: 514072 kB
<BR>
<BR>Looks okay so far. Let's check load average...
<BR>cat
<BR>0.08 0.05 0.01 1/83 5268
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<BR>Wow, looks good!
<BR>
<BR>Looks to me like the troll should go back under the bridge...
<BR>
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That does not like much of an argument on Ogg's behalf; the processor decoding your Ogg-Vorbis is "encumbered by patents" and you probably are not investigating alternatives. There are many patents applied to the hardware/software running my Linux box and for the most part it does not effect my day-to-day usage. Same with MP3. The truth of the matter is that MP3 is more prevalent as an encoding source and I will use it for the flexibility it gives me; I can move my MP3's from home to the office or onto a portable with ease.
If Ogg gets more popular then maybe I would consider using it. I don't use Linux/Debian because of the "open-source" aspect; I use it because I prefer it as a desktop and like the freedom and customability of it. I also use (horrors!) Nvidia drivers (closed-source) which perform excellently w/ Q3A (patents on the engine).
I could go on with this but it'd be redundant. Any person who would blindly follow any cause without examination is sad as any lemming.
Allah_Spork, accept me in thy kingdom...
A port of a three year old game does not look healthy to me. Perhaps we can soon expect a port of Commander Keen?
Even if the design for the P4 was rolled out in stone 6 years ago there are changes implemented that makes this nothing more than a press release. I agree with the poster below that they took moore's law and threw in a margin of error.
...or are you just happy to see me?
Why would any CPU manufacturer attempt to predict processor design & clock speed six years into the future? It will be 2007 before this statement can be tested for validity at which point processor design could have changed drastically. Perhaps I should phone Cleo and ask her what the bus speed of my motherboard will be in 2010?
Hagabard
My taken of English do not have to gush so as to I must send that fact in the first place. The PDA in issue is undeniably excellent in the relative use of OS technology underlying since I have an unit of demo that I have obtained through my brother-in-law that works in the zone of search and development of Sharp. Thanks.
Agree. They should have a feedback form that addresses that question. "Does your development environment use Linux and, if so, would you be interested in a port?". Seems pretty simple.
You know that alot of hits to your site are from scientists interested in scientific application of the compiler through your web logs so why not apply the same type of analysis to the idea of a port? People interested in the product are going to go to your site so it make the most sense to ask it there instead of a general forum that is frequented by developers but is not wholly devoted to them (hence, Jon Katz).
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX but my IgnoreEDID option is in the "Monitor" section. Worked fine with "make clean", "make install" under 2.4.10. I have AGP disabled (would freeze after running GL apps. Here's my section:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "MyMonitor"
VendorName "NEC multisync"
ModelName "FP1350"
# be sure to replace these values with values appropriate for your
# monitor!
HorizSync 31-115
VertRefresh 55-160
Option "IgnoreEDID" "1"
# 1600x1200i @ 87.59 via xvidtune
Modeline "1600x1200" 229.50 1600 1664 1856 2144 1200 1201 1204 1222 +hsync +vsync
EndSection
My office is in a building which appears in the deep-ocre colored section; lower, right-hand corner - listed as "damaged but stable". I've been in the building working all last week and besides the fact that they're hestitant to run the AC (too much dust) there's nothing wrong with it.
Maybe they classify dusty filter systems as "damaged"?
You just stated above that you had no idea that this was being posted to Slashdot yet in this posting you state the above. Which comment is true?
HagabardIf you figured that linking "hire me!" on the bottom of the results could be interpreted wrong ("I thought it was a bit slimey") then you should have gone with your instincts.
Sorry you feel the need to defend yourself but the original comment above was more directed at Slashdot for this combo "sensationalism/advertorial" posting under the heading of "News for Nerds". This was a sampling from a mailing list that, while interesting, does not take much into account and holds as much water as those '"it sucks" vs "it rocks"' sampling via a search engine.
Hagabard
This is more like a resume for an out-of-work perl-monkey. If he'd really like to do statistical analysis he should should take into account growth of list members, number of postings total, etc.
So what do we have here? Some fellow who just posted a "hey, look at me" resume onto slashdot; not much meat and a sorry excuse for a story.
Shame on you, slashdot...
I imagine a great way to get folks to install al Trojan would be via a Makefile. Folks will su prior to "make install" and at this point the program could simply drop in an executable & fork it in the background.
/. is stating that a person would have to be stupid to run an untrusted binary but modern virus/trojan/worm infection is more about social-engineering in order to enable infection. "this must be safe, they distribute it in source code..."
A simple fake CERT-like e-mail with the source code for a "virus detector" linked could do the job quite easily. Inside of the relevant benign code could be a binary that gets copied in and does the dirty deed (how many people read *every* line of a Makefile?
Truth be told, everyone on
As a security-conscious sysadmin one must learn to never think they are immune from such things.
Hagabard...
He's just all sour because he couldn't get Hurd to catch on...
Didn't really mean to criticize the person who released the added functionality. After looking into it more it seems it's an impressive hack, though, to a serious limitation with the database.
Really, though, I hope the release does not dampen any other development efforts that may be going on for true SP support within MySQL.
Why didn't they use a Transact-SQL compatible stored proc syntax? This would ease migrating and also enable people who prototype DBs on MySQL to move it to either Sybase or MS-SQL with a minimal of fuss.
I'm not saying Transact-SQL is great or anything but it'd be nice if it was a bit more compatible with other systems.
AC
This makes sense since their custom software is for use in a controlled environment. They perfect it for specific setups rather than getting it to perform evenly across different chipsets such as commercial software vendors might attempt.
So overall I do not think he was equating AMD with FreeBSD as other alternatives so much as stating that they've got something that works and they're rolling with it.
If VA-Linux was keeping OSDN afloat then how the hell is OSDN going to keep VA-Linux going? By swapping banner ads with partners? If support of SourceForge software was such good business then what could be a better sell than to bundle it pre-configured on VA-Linux servers? But wait, "who'd want to pay 4k for free software on a development server that would never see incredibly high traffic to justify the cost", you ask? Well, then, who the hell is going to pay 10k for VA/OSDN to set it up? Or do you VA/OSDN could fly consultants around the country for two-week projects at a lower cost than that?
Any VA-Linux stockholder should feel they've just fell victim to the ol' bait-n-switch. "We're a hardware company, no...a publishing company, no, wait...a software company..." Next you'll hear that they're going into B2B which, as everyone knows, is the death-rattle of any "new-economy" company.
I really think this would make a good poll..."Who's planning on moving to developing for the Mac after OSX who were not already doing so?". I'm sure the numbers won't be impressive.