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Loki Goes Postal
xwred1 writes: "Loki has announced a new port today, up to now known as "Secret Project Q": They are going Postal! Press release is here, and the game product page/overview is here. Seems to be a healthy sign of life from Loki, they are obviously still getting good things done despite the chapter 11."
IIRC Postal is very very old, either from the days of Windows 95 or earlier. Anyone know why Loki would pick something this aged up?
Not that I've a problem with it; I was intrigued by POSTAL when it was first released and may now check it out when it is released.
STOP MISUSING APOSTROPHES, YOU MORONS!!!
I was thinking it wouldn't be long before someone at Loki goes Postal.
From Zero to Hero... Starbuck Zero
Not sure about Postal Plus, but I ran Postal when it first came out on my Mac, and it was a bad game.
It's good to see more games for Linux, but if they are bad games that no one wants, it's not that good of a thing. See when the bad game doesn't sell, then people will say that Linux won't support a game maker and you get into that spiral that Macintosh was in back in '96-'98.
But maybe Postal Plus is better than regular Postal.
Yaaay!
I remember this one back in the day, and now we've got the double-header of it being ported to Linux and even more importantly, visable signs of life from Loki. Get out the good word and force your friends to pre-order this little jem. I spent many a night hunched over a screen, slaughtering mailmen and innocent bystandards.
I wonder if they have toned down the gib-factor at all? Then again, with America's recent blood-lust, this may sell quite well.
hmmm...
"If I wanted your input on my pet project, I'd stick my hand up your ass and use you like a sock-puppet." - Muse
Many of us don't have 3D accelerators that work under Linux. While I'd like to have my hardware working under Linux, I realize that it's probably not going to happen any time this millenium.
So instead, I have a suggestion. Mesa currently has only one mode for software rendering--high quality. Is there any way that a low-quality software rendering mode could be introduced into Mesa? How difficult would it be to add this to the libraries, maybe have it switched on/off by an environment variable? How much of a slow-down would it introduce into the libraries, by having forked logic like this?
Because honestly, if I were to buy a copy of Quake III right now (this example would work the same with Postal once it comes out), I'd have to buy the Windows version because I haven't the "right" hardware 3D-accelerator. A sped-up, but much less visually correct, version of Mesa might make it easier for someone like me to bite the bullet and buy the Linux version, so that when I upgrade/if I upgrade to a 3D accelerated card, I'll have it under the OS I prefer.
(I realize this is pretty selfish, but it's also one of the reasons why you're not going to see many Windows users switching over to Linux any time soon. If I can't install Linux on someone else's 600Mhz Athalon, and be able to show them a kick-ass 3D game with a frame rate higher than 1.5/s...)
Let's all jump on the webpage so that Loki's gotta use what little cash they have left to buy a new webserver.... :)
Nothing to see there anyway. If it doesn't have screenshots, it's worth nothing
Since I understand that Postal is a tad aged (circa 1998 IIRC), and the name of the game is Postal Plus, rather than simply Postal, is it possible that the version of the game that we see on Linux could be significantly updated from the 1998 version? For my money, I'd love to see a commercial entertainment package with mainstream appeal that comes out for Linux and not Windows...
"You can take our lives, but you can never take our Flerbage!!!!"
as much as i love loki and all they've done, this is not a good sign. i'd love to see loki become as successful as any of the really big game houses. porting old, mediocre (at best) games is not how it's going to happen. even i have a limit to the number of games i'll buy that i have no intention of playing just to support the company.
loki should be porting diablo 2, planescape torment, total annihilation, warcraft 3, etc. big, mainstream games that lots of people want to play. the question is, why aren't they? that's almost certainly due to the original authors not being interested in a linux version.
as much as i hate to admit it, i think linux's chances as a game platform have gone down the drain. the linux hype has gotten considerably less prevelant, and i'm willing to bet there are fewer people running it as their main home OS than in recent memory and that number is only going down.
there have not been any major improvements in this area which would draw people to it recently.. ease of installation hit the point where anyone able to install windows could do it a while ago. however, once the system is up and running, it's not so easy to get new things (like Mesa) set up. this has not improved.
and as i said, it's been a while since a big game was ported to linux.
all in all i don't see any light at the end of this tunnell. it pains me to say so because i've been using linux as my main desktop OS for years and years and always was really optimistic about it.
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
I do not understand what the .... this Go Postal thing is all about!!
:)
It is explained neither on Slashdot nor on Loki's website nor on www.gopostal.com .
Is anybody going to inform us what it's all about?
A port of a three year old game does not look healthy to me. Perhaps we can soon expect a port of Commander Keen?
Postal was a decent game...I played it on the mac and quite enjoyed it, especially the holiday expansion pack ("Don't shoot Santa!") but I have to think Loki is doing this to raise their PR level...even bad PR is good PR when you're stuck in chapter 11.
Or perhaps its just a harbinger of things to come from their programmers.
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball(TM)
if they truly believed they could make *any* money they'd do it. it's very hard to make money with games, the margins for the authors and publishers are smaller than most people realize.
the issue is they do not believe there is even a market, and right now i tend to agree. (that was the point of my post, sorry if i wasn't totally clear.)
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
It clearly says on Loki's web site that Tribes2 and Deus Ex are in the works. How much more mainstream can you get? I've been playing Heavy Gear II for the past few days and think that it is very impressive under linux.
actually i hadn't seen those, and they will help.. but i do still worry why they are wasting time and resources on a game like postal.
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
Give me a break. For an independent release 4-ish years ago, it was playable. Which isn't by any stretch of the imagination to say that it was "good".
Lavishing praise on the re-release of a tired old second-rate-even-in-its-primetime game is no way to woo Joe Everyday User to install Linux on his computer.
Easy does it!
This comment has been submitted already, 276865 hours , 59 minutes ago. No need to try again.
but the market is smaller than it could be, and i think it is shrinking instead of growing, mainly because Mesa is non-trivial to install and set up for most people, and as you point out, hardware support is not the best.
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
I played this game a long time ago - it was BAD. It's akin to saying "we got the rights to Daikatana!"
For that matter, it's a sign Loki is going away, if this is as good as they can do. Most recent popular games either don't want to touch Linux, want to port the games themselves, or just don't want to go through another publisher.
Part of Loki's problem is the intentional segregation. It was originally impossible to patch Quake 3 Windows to the Linux version, and the Linux and Mac versions were sold separately. Loki's tactics were intended to get them the money they were due and to gauge Linux support. However, it didn't work - Linux copies sold a tiny fraction of the number sold. Loki blamed it on most Linux users also being Windows dual-booters and that they settled on the Windows version and could wait for the patch. Furthermore, Loki's contract only allow for binary patches (which are a pain apparently) and make it so that the developer is paying the publisher (instead of the ideal vice versa).
Couple that with the fact that we have a company whose lone claim is that they're trying to make money off of a free operating system with freeloading users and the fact that the best they can do in most cases is to port old tired games (and the occasional Quake engine title) and it's doom for Loki.
Had they been smart they would have ported Half-Life, negotiating that deal at any cost.
Schnapple
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It's great and all, but why is there a "Five Star Adult Dating - Amour - Sexy Chat" banner on that page?
Hrm..
...with a lack of capital. At least part of the enduring games don't use 3D accel or can use what's already there- Diablo II is an example of one that doesn't use much in the way of 3D acceleration.
As for Mesa being non-trivial, every distribution installs it for XFree86 4.0 and usually pre-configures it (it's actually rather trivial to configure for a DRI driver that's not in alpha...) and at least Mandrake makes it easy to install for Mesa with Utah-GLX. It's non-trivial if you're installing completely from scratch (Which, if you're doing that, you're skilled enough to manage it anyhow!)
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
but you should be aware that your taste in games is not in-line with most of the world.
whether or not you like diablo 2 you should be aware it is a fantastically popular game. tens of thousands of people play it every day.
your thinking is also skewed in that porting games to linux is not 'competing' with windows. i suppose it would be if there were any possibility of competition, but linux games are for people who want to avoid having to boot into windows to play their games, because they're in linux the rest of the time.
as far as mod-friendly games for linux, half-life is the only one i can think of out of the 'holy trinity' (q3, ut and half-life) that is not currently under linux.
the idea (which you almost kind of brush against) that there should be original linx-platform games is a great one and there are lots of amateur games under development, but almost no one who wouldn't be running linux anyway is going to install it just to play one or two games.
the whole underlying issue to this entire discussion (which i've addressed several times now in this thread) is that linux is NOT ready for Joe Q. Gamer to put on his machine and play all his games, even if they WERE all available. the main failing is hardware support and Mesa's ease-of-use. (i also tend to think that most of the KDE/Gnome setups on the main distros are very clunky and fugly by default.)
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
Postal rode off of the hype from day 1. There was the hope that it was still a good game regardless, but no, it turned out to be poor to mediocre.
:)
Since those days, there has been a realization that releasing intentionally over-the-top games could severely hurt the game industry. You know how DOOM and Mortal Kombat keep getting brought up as examples of violent games, even though they are each at least 8 years old? Just be glad the much worse examples aren't noticed by bored senators, like Kingpin, Soldier of Fortune, and Postal. No one, and I mean no one, wants a PC running Postal to show up on the floor of the senate. We'd immediately get hit with all sorts of regulations.
But in any case, Postal is still a poor to mediocre game
An example is Pascal's ``Mystic Hexagram'':
A beautiful theorem! Pascal (1623-1662) proved it when he was only sixteen years old and gave the figure its name.but last time i checked (and admittedly it was not in the last 3 months), it was not so easy on Red Hat, SuSE or debian. It was SUPPOSED to be very straight-forward but due to incorrect library dependancies, mis-placement, etc. it was not the simple it matter it should/could have been.
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
Postal is so ancient. A company in the business of porting games from windows faces a bleak future nowadays. The only good shot at Linux gaming would be to get the platform in good enough shape so that the gaming companies themselves would develop for the platform, porting companies could turn into competition for the original maker if it was too new a title. Linux can now be a competent office system, can playback a great deal of multimedia well, even Sorenson if you pay money to codeweavers, and KDE will probably be able to embed ActiveX Quicktime for Windows. But gaming has not gotten to a good appealing level. Even the multimedia support demonstrates problems. A lot of avi support and the sorenson support is dependant on Windows components, as companies will not port... Unless drastic things happen, the future of gaming lies in projects like Wine, unfortunately.
1. Postal is good, but not THAT good.
2. Postal is 20 minutes of fun, after that you switch to the expansion pack, which is another 20 minutes of fun.
3. Postal is even older that Loki itself.
4. Postal has an interresting engine that runs on pentium 166, meaning it's worthless. Nobody ever re-used that crap. Or somebody did and he's an idiot.
5. Tribes 2 is a lot more interresting and it still doesn't fuckin work on Linux + Matrox G450.
Conclusion: Loki makes games and 5 minutes later, they don't care about what they made. So you know what, maybe i don't really care Loki anymore or maybe i don't really care about playing games under Linux.
Linux = 'For Workin'.
Ouindoze = 'For Playin'.
i don't even do word processing or any of that, i only use my computer for web browsing, e-mail, coding and games at home. so if i had all the games i wanted to play in linux i'd be set, but i don't so... i still keep win2k on my machine.
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
ok, i see where our fundamental difference is.
i don't think that linux games should be designed with the aim of recruiting john q. windowsgamer to install linux on his machine instead of windows. even if there were good linux ports of all his favorite games, there are other non-gaming-related issues (which you mention, such as the butt-arse-ugly desktop defaults) that would militate against his making the switch.
i think linux gaming should be oriented towards people who are already running linux. thus, Loki should be trying to supply us with games that are actually GOOD (as opposed to games that are simply played by many thousands of people).
and while i'm aware that my taste in games is not exactly mainstream (the game i'm currently most looking forward to is the Harpoon 3 cd that's being fedexed to me as we speak), i think that there are a large number of fringe gaming markets that a) it would be much easier for Loki to penetrate (compared to the mainstream gaming market) and b) that have games that are languishing unappreciated, that could do with some more exposure.
as for linux games competing with windows games, as long as you have to pay twice to own the windows version and the linux version of a game, there's competition.
-vecna_99
--- "We also were guided by the unlikelihood that anyone would face supernatural evil armed only with technology."
Millions of people run windows.........
I run linux, and something tells me the types of games people like me like to play is different than the types of games all the M$ sheep like to play.
Billions of people live in China......
Doesn't mean there isn't money to be made selling american flags to americans.
Should Loki be trying to market the popular windows games to Linux users...I don't think so.
I think, porting games well suited for linux and linux users is what Loki needs to do. There are a lot of chinese people, but you'd have a hard time making a lot of money selling chinese flags to americans. Better to sell american flags to US citizens even though they are not the majority of the world's population.
Loki needs to pick a good product for the Linux market...Loki doesn't need to try to emulate the success of the most popular games of the windows market...it just won't work. Taking older less popular games in windows that would make sense in Linux (ie network and customizable games with a community base) makes a lot more sense.
-jef
I would like to see Loki create new games instead of porting older windows based games to Linux.
Let the porting to be done by the original creators... give them some incentive to do their own ports.
Why not try to create that one blockbuster we need ? The people at Loki should be inventive enough. At least they had alot of examples of great games.
The only thing that I use Windows for is playing games. I believe many Linux users keep their computers dual-booted for the same reason. I would really like to help out companies like Loki, but the problem is 3D acceleration video card support. I downloaded couple of Loki demos at home and it all looked like crap. I did the same thing at work, and it was absolutely beautiful. You know why? Because at work I have GeForce2 Ultra DVI card running under NVIDIA's drivers. I played Soldier of Fortune demo and it was absolutely perfect. Of course at the same time I was burning a CD in background without affecting the action. That's why Linux could be much better gaming platform, but until Linux games can run with wide variety of video hardware, I'll still keep that good ol' windows on a small partition.
Loki announced the pending availability of Pong for Linux. "We just wanted to give something back to the community", said the CEO of Loki. "With support for the latest 2-D cards, Pong will be the killer app for Linux."
"It was just so lifelike, I had tears in my eyes", says 51-year old Pong creator Nolan Bushnell. "I never thought I would be able to play Pong at home, let alone on a Free operating system."
Just noticed that CivIII went gold today (press release [Firaxis]).
Personally I think that this title would be very popular on the Linux platform, a 3D accelerator is not even required. I don't know how well SMAC did on Linux, but this title would be a logical step for turn-based strategy fans.
The slated platforms are WIndows and Mac, I hope Loki will consider a port for this title.
Competition for "most of the world"'s attention is fierce. Loki is targeting a market with few competitors, and it looks like their decision is mostly working.
If you think they're not making the right decisions, then compete with them. Get a Half-Life license and work on it. Probably what you'll find is that the license costs plus the porting labor cost, exceeds what you'll get in sales. Then you'll realize that Loki has a real business plan and knows what they're doing.
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Why would anyone want to port games to a platform to satisfy a small bunch of condescending halfwits such as yourself? What would be more work: writing the software or listening to your constant complaining about the tiniest little thing?
Half life is a far better game and you can download Scientist Hunt if you feel the need to go Postal. Scientist hunt is by far more amusing than Postal ever was.
--Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
One of the few Loki games I won't buy. I have no problems with its being produced, but everything I've heard about the game tells me that it will disgust me. I don't need a game like that.
Need a Python, C++, Unix, Linux develop
Isn't Loki a C++ library?
If it's Utah-GLX, not everybody handles it for you and, yes, it's difficult because it's a hack on top of XFree86 3.3.X to begin with. If it's DRI, I don't know what your issues are because it's just pretty much dropping in the drivers in the appropriate places, creating a /dev/dri/video0 entry and running X.
:-)
(By the way, before you comment further, you might want to know that I'm the maintainer of Utah-GLX and a DRI developer...
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
Check their products page and purchase it if you've got the cash...
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
Execute gears from a command line and wait, it'll tell you which framerate.
On a PIII 600, a G400 should be clocking nearly a 1000fps with gears at it's default size, etc.
Also of note is that you've got to cripple the game back pretty heavily because the G400 and other cards don't have enough silicon muscle to do what the game asks for so it falls back to software in a LOT of places if you don't cripple the game's renderer.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
That being said, I would like to see some original game development on Linux. If you look at the Linux Game Tome, there's a lot of promising stuff out there. Hell, why not add GL interfaces to some existing games like Nethack and Angband? Those games are still engaging despite their interfaces. There's a lot that could be one. Whether it'll work in an open source (or even Commercial on Linux) remains to be seen.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
porting games well suited for linux and linux users is what Loki needs to do.
I defy you to name games that are 'well suited for linux and linux users'. Since presumably linux users are such because of the superiority of the product, rather than some feature/quirk/defect of their personality, what do you propose defines Linux users ? Is it our ability to read source code and unpack tar files ? Is it our interest in arguing about distributions and editors ? Our fervor in arguing that some forms of intellectual property are wrong while others inviolable ?
Get real, Linux users are as heterogeous as any other group of computer enthusiasts and hobbyists; Chinese nationals are unified in their culture and language and history. The only kind of game that I can imagine appealing "Linux users" as a group would involve shooting/killing/maiming/ridiculing Bill Gates in effigy. Which, I believe at least one of which has already largely been done and ships with some distributions.
Counterstrike is the major reason I will always have a Windows installation. Though if old classics are order of the day then Command&Conquor:Red Alert (and series) would win a lot of converts.
Phillip.
Property for sale in Nice, France
I have little problem, myself, with violence in games (hey, I actually think the characters in Heretic II, for example, are kind of funny as they run around with their arms cut off as if puzzled about why their weapons aren't working...), but I played the demo of Postal for about 10-15 minutes long, long ago when it first came out...
The problem, as I see it anyway, is that the violence in Postal is...tasteless. The focus isn't on pretty graphics or gameplay, but on 'realistic' suffering and dying of the wounded. This is the ONLY game I can recall ever playing that actually somewhat digusted me (and I've been playing for a while - I still vaguely recall a driving game on my old C-64 where you scored points by running over puppies and little old ladies...)
And, somehow, I just can't imagine that in the current anti-terrorism frenzy the world is in that this game is going to do anything but (ahem) bomb completely in the market when Loki re-releases it, unless maybe they replace all of the original levels with "shoot the terrorists, spare the civilians" levels set in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc...and even then it'll only sell until the frenzy dies down...
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Stupid moderators don't even know that Spy Hunter and Buck Rogers are games and therefore ontopic. Wow. Another few points off the slashdot IQ. Soon we'll be digging for it.
I don't care if Loki has to give their children away, JUST FUCKING PORT COUNTER-STRIKE. You know how many dual-boot win/linux systems would become 100% linux systems if they could play COUNTER-STRIKE? Sure, they probably don't want to license it to them. KIDNAP THEIR CHILDREN IN THE NIGHT. I don't care. All i care about is being able to deagle the CT's on a linux box.
There is a certain theory my friend proprosed though. If people could play counter-strike on windoze, programming would stop for everything. No new linux kernels (unless it improved CS), no new mozilla, no new anything (unless it improved CS). Now...one has to ask one's self: would that really be a bad thing?
Chaos, Mayhem, and Destruction: Not
I see people mentioning high profile games like Quake and Tribes as success stories but what most fail to realize is that these games are not ported because of Linux gamers. These games are ported so that game servers can be setup under Linux.. Linux ports of some games are all about the servers.
This is puzzling. What is Loki thinking? Postal is a very old game, but more importantly, it wasn't very good and it wasn't very successful either.
max
Not a flame (nor even my actual opinion) - it's just that I just looked at the press release. A choice quote from it:
"There's something just plain sick and wrong about Linux users," said Vince Desi, Running With Scissors' tetanus-tempered edge. "That's why we`re so excited to be able to bring these gaming misfits a Linux version of POSTAL - They're our kind of people!"Gee, thanks. I'm sure this'll do WONDERS for the image of Linux users. We've been fighting against this "fringe whacko lawbreaking rebel misfit" image, all this time I guess that's what we were anyway...
No, I don't actually think the game should be banned, nor should Loki be forbidden from porting it, nor should Running With Scissors be forbidden to SAY such things, nor should Loki be forbidden to agree with it and reprint it...but I DO think it's a BAD decision...
(The implication that a game where the main character is, effectively, a "terrorist without a cause" is perfect for "our kind of people" downright disturbs me...)
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I run linux, and something tells me the types of games people like me like to play is different than the types of games all the M$ sheep like to play.
Funny you should say that.
Most of the people I know who are most fanatical about Diablo II are Linux users who cuss because they have to keep Windows around just to play it.
If anything, Diablo II is MORE the type of game that a Linux user would like than the 1st person shooters of the minute...
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. But just because it's good doesn't mean it can't be popular.
The "Sheep" who use Microsoft, as you put it, are sometimes Wolves who violently refuse to compromise their gaming experience.
"Everything you know is wrong. (And stupid.)"
Moderation Totals: Wrong=2, Stupid=3, Total=5.
before developing/porting new games, Loki should really do something to help us buy their games.
I live in Paris/France and it's very hard to find loki games at usual linux friendly places.
Of course, you can buy online but then you have to add shipping costs, tax to be paid at custom and the delay.
Last week, I asked for games at the linux stand at Surcouf (the biggest computer store in paris) and they had only one last myth2 box left. they never could order games normally, it took months for games to be delivered to them (I never saw most of loki games on their stands). Somebody told them Loki was not selling anymore so they don't even try to contact Loki.
some other places selling linux are in fact mostly bookstores so I don't think they wan't to sell games.It could also be good to be able to order games online on a French website so shipping cost will be low and delay minimal
The old games were innovative and interesting. Newer games are (for the most part) just remakes of older games. (Diablo II is a much enhanced version of Wizardry, which I saw first on an Apple 2). So why not port the old great games to Linux. Quite often the older games were more fun then newer games are now. I'm sick of twitch games, with fancy 3d graphics.Bring on some games that rely more on game play and less on graphics!
Heck, it doesn't just make Linux users look bad. It makes all computer game players look bad.
If you read your average newspaper, it would appear as though the computer game industry has been responsible for all violent acts committed during the last 10 years. And a game where the whole point is to go around shooting innocent civilians ain't gonna improve that image. It seems like RWS decided if they couldn't make a good game, they'd just make a controversial game and ride the wave of publicity from their local news stations.
I was glad that this game faded into obscurity. The last thing we need now is for this thing to resurface and be picked up by Good Morning America.
"Do you expect me to talk?" "No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die!"
I think RWS said what they wanted to say in that press release because they knew how people would react. Don't take things so seriously. After all, Slashdot does worse for the image than one little game and its press release.
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We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
There's something just plain sick and wrong about Linux users
God I love that quote, don't you? Yes, there is something sick and wrong with linux users. Just like there's a lot sick and wrong with TV watchers and the popular media/news. Specially when Time magazine is willing to print full color pictures of real people dying. All in the name of terrorism. At least fictional characters in games like Postal will allow me to take my frustration with my government and people out on my computer keyboard and a few burning pixels. And perhaps if we directed our general disgust with gore towards the media and entertainment industry during a time like this we wouldn't be so sick and wrong.
But you know what I think? Do you really want to know? I think Americans actually like the gore. I think they enjoy the entertainment of watching death and destruction, even if it is real, on TV. Then why am I so sick and wrong for being entertained by it in a virtual setting? At least I'm no hypocrite about it. I admit it. I'm sick and wrong.
It would be cool if they ported GTA to Linux. I found it much better than postal. If they beefed up the multiplayer(eg. co-op), I'd have to delete my windows partition once and for all. :)
It's been a long time.
shit! Got a URL? The only reason I don't use linux is because I can't use my savage4(I use my computer for programming and gaming). Where can I find a savage4 mesa? I couldn't find anything like that when I searched for it!
It's been a long time.
I believe that one of the resons why MS-Windows is so widely used is that it's a decent gaming platform.
(Yeah, I know what you're going to say, it suxx...yadda yadda) The fact's still there. You buy a PC and mommy and daddy can do grown up stuff with it like paying bills and the kids can use it for gaming.
If you can put games on Linux (a lot) then a few more might switch.
"Hey, it does all that Windows does, Office, Internet and everything. And there's even games. Wohoo"
Support Loki, buy the game if you're even remotly interested in playing it. Prove that there is money in games for Linux. Prove that it's worthwile to invest in Linux and that it's not an "Unamerican" Hippie OS.
But then again, what the hell do I know?
//H
You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. -- Harlan Ellison
Where does the name come from? There isn't any obvious reason why a game that appears to be about urban terrorism is called 'Postal'. Can anyone explain it?
AFAIK the only major 3D card unsupported on Linux is the Kyro, for whom drivers are coming. All the other people who produce cards fast enough to play current 3D games on any platform, thats:
* NVIDIA
* ATI
* Matrox
* Crusty old 3DFX
has drivers. Laptops can be a problem there, buit massive headway has been made into this area in the last six months.
What card do you actually own?
I loved playing Postal back when I ran Windows (we all make mistakes). Is the game worth $40 to me? Nope. If this comes out at a reasonable price I will buy it. If it comes out overpriced (Postal has been out for quite a while) I won't be getting it. I'll stick to free games (Maelstrom, Circus Linux) for my limited gaming time.
I want Loki to succeed, but I don't want to pay absurd prices for them to succeed.
Everytime you look at porn a devil gets their horns.
Hey Loki, I am a father of three. I need some educational games ported to linux for my kids. I love your other games but I really think there is a big market for kids educational games.
Don't forget that "Chapter 11" just allows a company to separate their current debts up to the "Chapter 11" from their future earnings/debts. This is to allow them to say to their creditors that they will be paying the debts but that they require time to do it. Another way of saying we haven't forgotten that we owe you.
It doesn't indicate that Loki is going under or anything of the such.
When shit hits the fan get some of these https://youtu.be/pY-GncsZ-UE