FreeBSD has many things that OpenBSD does not: good Mozilla support, OpenOffice, Java that works well, SMP, more ports, etc. Same goes in the other direction. Both have their fortes.
When Theo agreed to take the DARPA money, however, he specifically stated that he would do so only with no strings attached. Hence, your second and third points become invalid.
Although, I'm also skeptical to believe that it's only because of his antiwar sentiments, so I agree with you there.
Employer? No. Theo specifically says in the news article that this money comes without any direction. It was taken only on the conditions that no strings were to be attached. DARPA wasn't paying OpenBSD to do X. It was paying them to do the same thing they've always done. It was more like a gift than a salary.
When you run a program it doesn't print out who wrote it - that's only viewable in the source. The credit is all given on the webpage linked in the story.
There's also a fairly obvious comment in rc.conf: # use -u to disable chroot, see httpd(8) httpd_flags=NO # for normal use: "" (or "-DSSL" after reading ssl(8))
Give us a break; if he felt that strongly about the war, he could've said, "Thanks, but I'll wait till you guys leave Iraq before I'll accept your money."
The grant started long before the war - the press is just now getting to it.
Do you honestly believe that Theo is taking millions of dollars just so he can say "I don't like the war"? There are others forums for that. This grant started long before the war. Get your facts straight.
You are aware that Microsoft uses BSD code in Windows? Microsoft actually likes the BSD liscense, since they can use BSD code. They dislike the GPL, for obvious reasons.
If you would have taken the time to read the messages from Theo in the thread, he says very clearly that they don't have enough documentation to write a kernel or an OS. Also, the type of documentation they need is nothing you can find on Sun's website.
It is relevant to mention that Vivendi recently purchased Blizzard (afaik), and hence could have been behind the bnetd issue. If that is the case, Blizzard still holds a high rank in my eye. Yes, I did purchase Warcraft III because I like Blizzard, even though I don't like what they (Vivendi?) did to bnetd.
Only root should be able to run gcc? Uh, that would not be a good thing. This means that no users can install their own software from source (into their own directory, of course). Many makes would have to be done by root, since many use gcc. I would think that'd make a machine more vulnerable, since only make installs should be done by root - everything else by a non-privileged user.
I live in Golden (15 minutes west of Denver, for those who don't know) and we're not connected to Qwest at all. We get phones (local and long distance) and internet from AT&T, and we've got a dish for television. It's nice to know we won't be screwed by the Fourth Reich.
Concerning Richochet: I'm very happy with my cable service, and probably won't switch. But new stuff is always fun, so who knows?
Did you even read the interview? Here I quote Jordan Hubbard from the interview: "I'm 39 years old and have just a high school education..." Jordan said it, not Jeremy Andrews.
I was a sophomore in the same county as the Columbine when the shootings occured, and my school allowed small LANs. The other lab techs and I would install CS or UT after school was out some days and frag away for a few hours. The teacher over the labs freely let us do this. Moving it to a more formal thing where anyone (not just lab techs) could do this sounds like a great idea.
This has been done for a while...
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When I first got my cable a few years back, we were idly talking to the techs during a repair job (our cable was under the carpet, and accidentally was on the tack strip) and mentioned this. They said it was possible. We bought a Y splitter soon afterwards and have had free cable ever since.
That may very well may be, but it also makes perfect sense. Windows 95 is around 6 or 7 years old, is it not? How is this in any way different than standards moving from the 3.5 floppy to CD-ROM? It's not, really. That software is old and out of date. I think it's good that they stop supporting old stuff, since it allows them to advance more, unhindered by older standards which may impede the advancement of newer tech.
I find it odd the Gates says this even with the recent
news from MSNBC. So even though with GPLed software is it "impossible for a commercial company to use any of that work or build on any of that work", a commercial company (like MS) can still use code from FreeBSD, which is open source.
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If you read the story on deadly they describe how to do this. It's quite simple, actually.
Open source groups are applauded when they slip the date: it fixes more bugs. Yet MS is bashed? Come on people.
With the new normal FAQ upgrades also comes the new PF FAQ:
http://openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html
FreeBSD has many things that OpenBSD does not: good Mozilla support, OpenOffice, Java that works well, SMP, more ports, etc. Same goes in the other direction. Both have their fortes.
When Theo agreed to take the DARPA money, however, he specifically stated that he would do so only with no strings attached. Hence, your second and third points become invalid.
Although, I'm also skeptical to believe that it's only because of his antiwar sentiments, so I agree with you there.
Employer? No. Theo specifically says in the news article that this money comes without any direction. It was taken only on the conditions that no strings were to be attached. DARPA wasn't paying OpenBSD to do X. It was paying them to do the same thing they've always done. It was more like a gift than a salary.
When you run a program it doesn't print out who wrote it - that's only viewable in the source. The credit is all given on the webpage linked in the story.
There's also a fairly obvious comment in rc.conf:
# use -u to disable chroot, see httpd(8)
httpd_flags=NO # for normal use: "" (or "-DSSL" after reading ssl(8))
Give us a break; if he felt that strongly about the war, he could've said, "Thanks, but I'll wait till you guys leave Iraq before I'll accept your money."
The grant started long before the war - the press is just now getting to it.
Do you honestly believe that Theo is taking millions of dollars just so he can say "I don't like the war"? There are others forums for that. This grant started long before the war. Get your facts straight.
You are aware that Microsoft uses BSD code in Windows? Microsoft actually likes the BSD liscense, since they can use BSD code. They dislike the GPL, for obvious reasons.
Slashdot is not the place to ask these type of questions about FreeBSD. Ask on the freebsd-current mailing list.
If you would have taken the time to read the messages from Theo in the thread, he says very clearly that they don't have enough documentation to write a kernel or an OS. Also, the type of documentation they need is nothing you can find on Sun's website.
It is relevant to mention that Vivendi recently purchased Blizzard (afaik), and hence could have been behind the bnetd issue. If that is the case, Blizzard still holds a high rank in my eye. Yes, I did purchase Warcraft III because I like Blizzard, even though I don't like what they (Vivendi?) did to bnetd.
Only root should be able to run gcc? Uh, that would not be a good thing. This means that no users can install their own software from source (into their own directory, of course). Many makes would have to be done by root, since many use gcc. I would think that'd make a machine more vulnerable, since only make installs should be done by root - everything else by a non-privileged user.
I live in Golden (15 minutes west of Denver, for those who don't know) and we're not connected to Qwest at all. We get phones (local and long distance) and internet from AT&T, and we've got a dish for television. It's nice to know we won't be screwed by the Fourth Reich.
Concerning Richochet: I'm very happy with my cable service, and probably won't switch. But new stuff is always fun, so who knows?
"Of course it runs NetBSD..."
Did you even read the interview? Here I quote Jordan Hubbard from the interview:
"I'm 39 years old and have just a high school education..."
Jordan said it, not Jeremy Andrews.
I was a sophomore in the same county as the Columbine when the shootings occured, and my school allowed small LANs. The other lab techs and I would install CS or UT after school was out some days and frag away for a few hours. The teacher over the labs freely let us do this. Moving it to a more formal thing where anyone (not just lab techs) could do this sounds like a great idea.
When I first got my cable a few years back, we were idly talking to the techs during a repair job (our cable was under the carpet, and accidentally was on the tack strip) and mentioned this. They said it was possible.
We bought a Y splitter soon afterwards and have had free cable ever since.
VIA already has their DDR P4 chipset/mainboard out. Too bad Intel is suing them over it.
That may very well may be, but it also makes perfect sense. Windows 95 is around 6 or 7 years old, is it not? How is this in any way different than standards moving from the 3.5 floppy to CD-ROM? It's not, really. That software is old and out of date. I think it's good that they stop supporting old stuff, since it allows them to advance more, unhindered by older standards which may impede the advancement of newer tech.
Is it just me, or did napster already distribute music from over 150 companies over the net? ^_^
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Actually, Google has 8000+ servers, as described by the recent /. article.
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I find it odd the Gates says this even with the recent news from MSNBC. So even though with GPLed software is it "impossible for a commercial company to use any of that work or build on any of that work", a commercial company (like MS) can still use code from FreeBSD, which is open source.
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