Yeah! And while we're at it, why don't we make all voting mail-in. After all, if you can't find paper, envelope, and a stamp, your vote doesn't deserve to count!
Wow. I'm really glad you can make fun of people's accents. Now, go do it again, only this time make fun of people I can't understand, like Al Sharpton.
For those of you decrying our taxpayer dollars going to waste on such a suit, it appears some at least is being used to make such decisions more accessible, a fact which I hope we can all agree upon.
I don't think anyone will dispute your facts there, no.
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The value of a subject is not defined by its researchers. It is defined by its market. Meaning its students and appliers.
Pure math is doomed to be a niche player until this fact is more widely accepted. It doesn't matter what academics think about the product if the end engineer is not satisfied, overjoyed even.
As it is today, woe to any freshman who wants to jump on the pure math bandwagon; all they get is name calling and static when they have real problems. The overall experience can be very unpleasant.
p.s. Yeah, it's a bit of a stretch, but Linux is a collection of algorithms, i.e. mathematical abstractions, not a set of contraptions, so the analogy is better than one to devices.
So, the language FORTH has no type checks, but in oreder to use FORTH you have to have a (current) environment (which may be different for different parts of the program) and that environment specifies (I'm assuming among other thins) what kind of typing is used. Is that correct?
What you call a ``genuinely weakly typed language'' is really a strongly (but dynamically) typed language --- like Lisp.
So in other words, you just agreed with me.
However, you were replying to this:
Forth gets some speed back by being 100% untyped (no run-time or compile-time type checking), but this is a very dubious "feature" when the rest of the computing world is moving towards more secure environments.
Which means, if it's true, that the kind of checking and safety you're talking about is simply not happening.
Yeah, but when you say ``weak typing'' you mean dynamic typing, right? I mean we're not talking about Classic C-style ``here's an int, treat it like a pointer to a string'' weak typing. (I.e., ``here's an open invitation to core dumps.)
``Related''??? Yeah, right. With corporations the size they are, just about any industry is ``related'' to just about any other industry, if you look hard enough.
What the *hell* have I *ever* said that made you make that comment! ``Treating children as programs''!?! You're the one who made speed such an important criterion of knowledge that if someone can't give you an answer quickly enough, he doesn't know the answer!
The difference is between rote memorization in table format ("knowing your multiplication tables) and using a long a drawn out algorithm to do so.
But you get the answer either way, right? So, either way you *can do the work*, which is what I said.
But, in any case, what in the world would made you think I meant rote memorization (``knowing your multiplication tables'') when I said ``complete his multiplication tables''. I never intended to mean rote memorization, and I am quite puzzled that you think I did.
that early memorization of tables is not necessary for advancing in mathematics
I never said it was.
There's a big difference, and it lies in the speed of access
First rule of program optimization: don't do it. Second rule of program optimization (experts only!): don't do it yet.
There are sound reasons behind those quotes. Think about them for a while.
Sorry. I am a mathematician and computer scientist. I refuse to accept that there is a difference between knowing something and being able to figure it out without external sources, and I dare you to explain to me that difference.
I said ``who can't complete his multiplication tables''. Obviously, if you can compute 6*9=9/2*10 + 5 + 9=54, you can complete your multiplication tables.
If you have a fifth grader who can't complete his multiplication tables, he needs to go to remedial education. If you have a classful of fiftth graders who can't complete their multiplication tables, you need to fire your fourth grade teachers.
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Yeah! And while we're at it, why don't we make all voting mail-in. After all, if you can't find paper, envelope, and a stamp, your vote doesn't deserve to count!
Wow. I'm really glad you can make fun of people's accents. Now, go do it again, only this time make fun of people I can't understand, like Al Sharpton.
And exactly where do you think the US got the money to do that?
I don't think anyone will dispute your facts there, no.
The value of a subject is not defined by its researchers. It is defined by its market. Meaning its students and appliers.
Pure math is doomed to be a niche player until this fact is more widely accepted. It doesn't matter what academics think about the product if the end engineer is not satisfied, overjoyed even.
As it is today, woe to any freshman who wants to jump on the pure math bandwagon; all they get is name calling and static when they have real problems. The overall experience can be very unpleasant.
p.s. Yeah, it's a bit of a stretch, but Linux is a collection of algorithms, i.e. mathematical abstractions, not a set of contraptions, so the analogy is better than one to devices.
If it were full of garbage, wouldn't a good fsck fix that?
Um, if you ever watched a real news show, you'd know Bush is working as hard to stay out of war with N. Korea as he is to get into war with Iraq.
So, the language FORTH has no type checks, but in oreder to use FORTH you have to have a (current) environment (which may be different for different parts of the program) and that environment specifies (I'm assuming among other thins) what kind of typing is used. Is that correct?
So FORTH has no inherent type checks, but you can layer on any system you want? That sounds eminently reasonable.
The only person I wouldn't kill for more storage.
I'd kill anyone (except Lacy) for 256GB worth of storage.
So in other words, you just agreed with me.
However, you were replying to this:
Which means, if it's true, that the kind of checking and safety you're talking about is simply not happening.
Yeah, but when you say ``weak typing'' you mean dynamic typing, right? I mean we're not talking about Classic C-style ``here's an int, treat it like a pointer to a string'' weak typing. (I.e., ``here's an open invitation to core dumps.)
Not only that, but Linux geeks can put Linux on both computers, and access their dorm computer via ssh -X.
It's news because the American market isn't free, so inefficient industries usually just get laws shoring them up, rather than going out of buisiness.
Probably both.
``Related''??? Yeah, right. With corporations the size they are, just about any industry is ``related'' to just about any other industry, if you look hard enough.
So, I suppose we should boycott every industry?
Funny; I thought (and still think) you're the troll. At any rate, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
What the *hell* have I *ever* said that made you make that comment! ``Treating children as programs''!?! You're the one who made speed such an important criterion of knowledge that if someone can't give you an answer quickly enough, he doesn't know the answer!
Asshole, indeed.
But you get the answer either way, right? So, either way you *can do the work*, which is what I said.
But, in any case, what in the world would made you think I meant rote memorization (``knowing your multiplication tables'') when I said ``complete his multiplication tables''. I never intended to mean rote memorization, and I am quite puzzled that you think I did.
I never said it was.
First rule of program optimization: don't do it. Second rule of program optimization (experts only!): don't do it yet.
There are sound reasons behind those quotes. Think about them for a while.
Thank you, I will. Until I get out of college and actually need a credit card, that is
Sorry. I am a mathematician and computer scientist. I refuse to accept that there is a difference between knowing something and being able to figure it out without external sources, and I dare you to explain to me that difference.
I said ``who can't complete his multiplication tables''. Obviously, if you can compute 6*9=9/2*10 + 5 + 9=54, you can complete your multiplication tables.
Learn to read.
If you have a fifth grader who can't complete his multiplication tables, he needs to go to remedial education. If you have a classful of fiftth graders who can't complete their multiplication tables, you need to fire your fourth grade teachers.
Oh common. Linux is backward compatible all the way back to Version 7!