Do the official Sun compiler and run-time work better than the MS one? And I'd rather use a system that works decently on a system its designers didn't develop. Also, I'd rather use a system someone other than its designers can do right.
Correction 1% of the Linux and GNU/Linux crowd is ``pissy'' about this. The other 99% of us are silently celebrating, emailing our friends and neighbors, buying champaign, etc.
So tell me, is there any platform Java doesn't suck on? Embrace and extend on Windows, ``limp performance'' on Linux, etc.... Stuff like this is why I only use really open languages.
Yeah sure, 16-bit Windows sucked, and 32-bit Windows blows, but it did (some) of what Bungie (my original post's parent) said was impossible on 286 and lower processors. I said it wasn't all impossible (even though MS's implementation (which I was using as an example because I'd forgotten momentarily about Xenix and Minix and...) sucked). You completely agreed with me. But I don't think you realized that you agreed with me, hence my reply.
The 286 had a protected mode. It sucked, but it was there. And (I believe) virtual memory and multi-tasking were both there in Windows 2.0, which ran on 8086s (that's right---086!). Again, it sucked, but it was there.
I hate to sound sarcastic, but if it's Linear Prgramming, isn't kind of obvious what L.P. means? And from there, general L.P. doesn't sound to hard to understand. So how many brain cells would you have had to dedicate to remember that? <flame>Do you have trouble remembering which building you're in, too?</flame>
Which class was it, and what is a general L.P. problem? Yeah sure it sounds like useless memorization. However, the programmers out there might like to consider how memorizing the format arguments to printf might sound to a non-programmer. But imagine having to look them up every time you use them! Believe me, it's not pretty.
Is a tinderbox required for more advanced classes?
p.s. Sorry if this starts to sound repetitive, but I'm supposed to be working on an equational proof tool for software, and so I've been thinking about what makes good reasoning for a while now.
Actually, basic formulas should be memorized---they're the basis of all math reasoning. Reasoning is done in the head, not on paper, so those formulas had better be in your head, or you can't do math reasoning.
Actually, only computers look up every formula they use. The rest of us memorize large numbers of formulas, so we can apply the later formulas. Or how do you expect to do Calculus, say, if you can't move a term across the equals sign without thinking?
For those who want to know - they agreed to give it a shot, and I was in the local pub with it all done by 14:00 the following day. They were so happy and their license concerns sufficiently assuaged that I'm replacing their NT based mail gateway with a Linux box next month...) -- UNIX? They're probably not even circumcised! Savages!
Perhaps what the GPL needs is an companion document that answers the FUD in plain language - the explanatory answers from the quiz would be a good place to start.
The fact that the proponents of the GPL can dispel the FUD is not the point - the point is that they are being required to do so in the first place.
Well, the only way to avoid FUD is to be exactly like everyone else. The GPL proponents are, of course, geeks. Ergo, they don't desire to be like every one else---they'd rather deal with the (inevitable) FUD.
It's 3:24 here, so I may not fully understand you, but it sounds like ``Access the computer from the network'' is voluntarily enforced, unless you want to log in using a daemon running as someone else. Is that correct? I.e., if I can get a valid log-in, I can run sshd from that and use that to get remote logins from anywhere, right?
Minimizing the number of things I have to restore after a virus. Also, having an as-working-as-possible system to do the restore from (but then I'm a Unix wizard-in-training, so I need lots of commands:)
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OK. I asked ``are there any platforms Java works on'' and the (only) answer I got back was: Sun platforms. Why?
Do the official Sun compiler and run-time work better than the MS one? And I'd rather use a system that works decently on a system its designers didn't develop. Also, I'd rather use a system someone other than its designers can do right.
Correction 1% of the Linux and GNU/Linux crowd is ``pissy'' about this. The other 99% of us are silently celebrating, emailing our friends and neighbors, buying champaign, etc.
Good point. Why do people use Windows, anyway? Too bad its too long for a sig...
So tell me, is there any platform Java doesn't suck on? Embrace and extend on Windows, ``limp performance'' on Linux, etc.... Stuff like this is why I only use really open languages.
Yeah sure, 16-bit Windows sucked, and 32-bit Windows blows, but it did (some) of what Bungie (my original post's parent) said was impossible on 286 and lower processors. I said it wasn't all impossible (even though MS's implementation (which I was using as an example because I'd forgotten momentarily about Xenix and Minix and...) sucked). You completely agreed with me. But I don't think you realized that you agreed with me, hence my reply.
BTW, main isn't a unixism---it's an ansiism.
Yeah, it's called the military-industrial complex.
The 286 had a protected mode. It sucked, but it was there. And (I believe) virtual memory and multi-tasking were both there in Windows 2.0, which ran on 8086s (that's right---086!). Again, it sucked, but it was there.
I hate to sound sarcastic, but if it's Linear Prgramming, isn't kind of obvious what L.P. means? And from there, general L.P. doesn't sound to hard to understand. So how many brain cells would you have had to dedicate to remember that? <flame>Do you have trouble remembering which building you're in, too?</flame>
That looks like pysics, right? Can't you do dimensional analysis on most physics problems? (Or is that what you meant by ``validation step''?)
Which class was it, and what is a general L.P. problem? Yeah sure it sounds like useless memorization. However, the programmers out there might like to consider how memorizing the format arguments to printf might sound to a non-programmer. But imagine having to look them up every time you use them! Believe me, it's not pretty.
Is a tinderbox required for more advanced classes?
p.s. Sorry if this starts to sound repetitive, but I'm supposed to be working on an equational proof tool for software, and so I've been thinking about what makes good reasoning for a while now.
Actually, basic formulas should be memorized---they're the basis of all math reasoning. Reasoning is done in the head, not on paper, so those formulas had better be in your head, or you can't do math reasoning.
Actually, only computers look up every formula they use. The rest of us memorize large numbers of formulas, so we can apply the later formulas. Or how do you expect to do Calculus, say, if you can't move a term across the equals sign without thinking?
Work in an industry with only one domestic customer, then.
Am I the only one who finds this sequence ironic?
You mean like this?
Well, the only way to avoid FUD is to be exactly like everyone else. The GPL proponents are, of course, geeks. Ergo, they don't desire to be like every one else---they'd rather deal with the (inevitable) FUD.
The important part (i.e., all your computers are beong to us). Of course, that's also the part they're used to disregarding...
So buy a CD from the FSF or Redhat or whoever.
Do you know what it means to ``bind a port'' (or is that even possible in Windows?)
It's 3:24 here, so I may not fully understand you, but it sounds like ``Access the computer from the network'' is voluntarily enforced, unless you want to log in using a daemon running as someone else. Is that correct? I.e., if I can get a valid log-in, I can run sshd from that and use that to get remote logins from anywhere, right?
I think you mis-understood. I mean, what keeps me from binding a disguised sshd to a port, and logging in using that port?
How is that enforced?
Minimizing the number of things I have to restore after a virus. Also, having an as-working-as-possible system to do the restore from (but then I'm a Unix wizard-in-training, so I need lots of commands :)