The delivery of a fetus is called ``birth''. If you partially deliver a fetus, why is that not a partial birth by the same rule? And if you partially deliver a fetus (all except the head) and then abort it, why is that not a partial-birth abortion?
Well, having a gun doesn't really increase ``political empowerment''---that's something only believers in Democracy want. It increases your personal empowerment---if it comes down to a choice between dying like a man or living like a slave, that's a real choice.
Disarm a man, and he can no longer die fighting---i.e., he's no longer a man. It's a Germanic thing, if you don't understand, you don't understand.
Btw, in this country (US) militants/hawks/etc. are generally regarded a right-wingers, not left-wingers. US liberals are usually lie down & roll over types (i.e., BSD licensers).
A. Double Jeopardy is a Constitutional provision, not a law.
B. Double Jeopardy doesn't apply here, as all it says is you can be tried at most n times for n transgressions. Since M$ has committed n transgressions, they can constitutionally be tried n times, at least as far as Double Jeopardy is concerned. They haven't been tried n times because that's too expensive.
2. Darwin is not under the BSD license, much less the whole of MacOS X. In fact, I don't think the average user of MacOS would even notice Darwin's license, even if it were BSD.
So, nice try, but the point remains: BSD software is not threatening M$'s market share.
You can't ``just use the BSD license'' because, according to 3.3(i), ``Company does not have the right to sublicense its rights to the Necessary Claims''. So, you can no more use the BSD license on covered software than the BSD Telnet program Win95 is under the BSD license. The best you can do is BSD + you can't extend this software without deleting the CIFS implementation or abiding by M$'s license. That's not BSD, nor is it necessarily a Free/Open Source license.
But you don't understand---Emacs's desired goal is, sub-consciously, to be a desktop environment. That's not the stated goal, but that's what is actually, sub-consciously, pursued. Now, maybe you can question that goal or how it's pursued, but you can't say a mail reader for a desktop environment is ``bloat''. Unless you don't have half a brain.
1. We weren't talking about anything, as I wasn't talking to you.
2. sunking2 said ``All of those are toys''. Now, maybe he intended that to support your statement ``it doesn't usually measure up to commercial alternatives in terms of power.'' It fact, it's probable. However, he was talking about specific counter-examples. If he hadn't wanted to talk about them, he could have said ``those are exceptions'' or ``even if those are powerful, they're exceptions''. He didn't. He said ``those aren't powerful''. That makes the discussion about those specific examples.
I didn't say Oracle had any bloat. I asked you to tell me what Emacs's bloat was.
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Oh, and btw, we weren't talking about ``the majority of open source projects''. We were talking about Emacs, which has quite useful and complete documentation.
I hate to get into this, but RMS looks nothing like Marx. Different beard, longer hair, and everything.
Nor is he really a communist; remember, Software Hoarding is Socialism. RMS is someone who's realised socialism doesn't work in that area he's most familiar with (software) and just hasn't generalized it to the rest of life yet.
And, btw., if Marx had seen software, he would have insisted on universal distribution of M$ stock + universal purchase of M$ products in the hopes that M$ would somehow misteriously fade away.
Guns have not prevented the U.S. population from being totally excluded from the political process and placed at the mercy of powerful, autocratic private corporations and their governmental partners.
Neither has democracy, which has had a hell of a lot more chance.
Well, this may come as a surprise to you, but governments have a lot of power. Somebody needs to balance that. Obviously, that means somebody outside the government. As long as governments have power, citizens need it too.
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The delivery of a fetus is called ``birth''. If you partially deliver a fetus, why is that not a partial birth by the same rule? And if you partially deliver a fetus (all except the head) and then abort it, why is that not a partial-birth abortion?
Well, having a gun doesn't really increase ``political empowerment''---that's something only believers in Democracy want. It increases your personal empowerment---if it comes down to a choice between dying like a man or living like a slave, that's a real choice.
Disarm a man, and he can no longer die fighting---i.e., he's no longer a man. It's a
Germanic thing, if you don't understand, you don't understand.
Wasting resources looking for ways to waste resources?!?!
Oh, wait, that's called politics...
Which is why, to make it work, both sides would have to be able to buy characters/weapons/etc. on E-Bay.
That's because the FSF:
:).
A. Produces an OS (GNU)
B. Produces an OS that has features M$'s OSs don't have (almost all of them
``Licenses like Apache''
Which won't allow you to name your fork with an ``Apache''-derived name.
Btw, in this country (US) militants/hawks/etc. are generally regarded a right-wingers, not left-wingers. US liberals are usually lie down & roll over types (i.e., BSD licensers).
A. Double Jeopardy is a Constitutional provision, not a law.
B. Double Jeopardy doesn't apply here, as all it says is you can be tried at most n times for n transgressions. Since M$ has committed n transgressions, they can constitutionally be tried n times, at least as far as Double Jeopardy is concerned. They haven't been tried n times because that's too expensive.
Please don't describe the GPL as viral unless you're trying to insult it. ``Viral'' has negative loadings that should not be re-inforced.
1. FreeBSD is not ``aka MacOS 10.1''.
2. Darwin is not under the BSD license, much less the whole of MacOS X. In fact, I don't think the average user of MacOS would even notice Darwin's license, even if it were BSD.
So, nice try, but the point remains: BSD software is not threatening M$'s market share.
You can't ``just use the BSD license'' because, according to 3.3(i), ``Company does not have the right to sublicense its rights to the Necessary Claims''. So, you can no more use the BSD license on covered software than the BSD Telnet program Win95 is under the BSD license. The best you can do is BSD + you can't extend this software without deleting the CIFS implementation or abiding by M$'s license. That's not BSD, nor is it necessarily a Free/Open Source license.
But you don't understand---Emacs's desired goal is, sub-consciously, to be a desktop environment. That's not the stated goal, but that's what is actually, sub-consciously, pursued. Now, maybe you can question that goal or how it's pursued, but you can't say a mail reader for a desktop environment is ``bloat''. Unless you don't have half a brain.
1. We weren't talking about anything, as I wasn't talking to you.
2. sunking2 said ``All of those are toys''. Now, maybe he intended that to support your statement ``it doesn't usually measure up to commercial alternatives in terms of power.'' It fact, it's probable. However, he was talking about specific counter-examples. If he hadn't wanted to talk about them, he could have said ``those are exceptions'' or ``even if those are powerful, they're exceptions''. He didn't. He said ``those aren't powerful''. That makes the discussion about those specific examples.
Clear?
Thanks for mis-interpreting my question.
I didn't say Oracle had any bloat. I asked you to tell me what Emacs's bloat was.
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Oh, and btw, we weren't talking about ``the majority of open source projects''. We were talking about Emacs, which has quite useful and complete documentation.
Name one.
I hate to get into this, but RMS looks nothing like Marx. Different beard, longer hair, and everything.
Nor is he really a communist; remember, Software Hoarding is Socialism. RMS is someone who's realised socialism doesn't work in that area he's most familiar with (software) and just hasn't generalized it to the rest of life yet.
And, btw., if Marx had seen software, he would have insisted on universal distribution of M$ stock + universal purchase of M$ products in the hopes that M$ would somehow misteriously fade away.
p.s. Moderators: This post is Insightful.
Please explain to me the difference between Emacs's ``bloat'' and Oracles' ``power''.
Neither has democracy, which has had a hell of a lot more chance.
Well, this may come as a surprise to you, but governments have a lot of power. Somebody needs to balance that. Obviously, that means somebody outside the government. As long as governments have power, citizens need it too.
Either it's true, or even Netcraft has fallen to the mighty April 1.
Documentation
Closing derivatives is not use.
``Use'' means running a program, reading a book, etc. Making a derivative is ``copying''. They're different.
And, btw., you can sell derivatives of a GPLed work. It's just stupid, that's all.
MacOS still requires you to put computer files on the computer's hard drive, right? Sounds aweful to me.
Seriously, though, I would love to hear you name one good reason to put any data file outside of ~user.
A. It's not by RMS, it's about him.
B. If it were by RMS, Amazon (and everyone else) would have a license from him to distribute it commercially.
Sorry. I thought your argument was: The courts agree the Sherman Act is consistent with equal protection. That makes it so.
Mea Culpa.
So I win by default, then? Yeah!