As an American, you can never, ever be right to praise America, EVER. We are the worst fascist corporatist imperialist system to set foot upon the world. "None of that would fly in the States" go ahead and try that line of thinking with the editors of the New York Times. You will gently be let down and told to get a proper education at the [leftist] universities of the United States.
Heh, heh. You forgot "to the barricades, Comrades!" at the end of your speech. To which country did you emigrate to escape the corporate fascism of your native land? What? You didn't leave? Surprise, surprise.
You do know that China greatly admires Western democracies and desires to emulate their system? Of course, this won't happen overnight...it will be 50+ years until China is safe for democracy. "Liberal democracy has failed" LOL keep flogging that dead horse. I especially recommend doing this in the presence of people who actually lived under True Socialism[tm].
Yeah! And I know one charming fellow here in China who makes his living importing illiterate Chinese peasants into Europe exploiting that exact principle. Let me know how it works out for you!
Yes, you are correct, though you do not know why. Go is not a game like Chess or Monopoly or Boggle. Weiqi (not Go, quit calling it that) is culture. Weiqi is one of the Four Arts, the other three being music, poetry, and painting. Would you condemn any other Art for being not up to Western standards? "This Chinese poetry is bullshit! It's written with some unreadable glyphs, and the entire subtext is riddled with quarrels and pretense!"
Fucking racists. From now on, Kim0, please stop criticizing cultures other than your own. Your racism privileges have been revoked.
It speaks volumes that a Westerner finds the idea of a nation promoting its own interests to be a weird idea. If some idea benefits 20,000 Americans OR benefits 20,001 Kenyans, it's obvious that America should pursue the latter course, eh? Sad.
You want to see racism and blind nationalism, come to China. I'm telling you they have nothing, nothing like the self-hatred that 2011 Americans have. Chinese would say the desire for something better is the foundation of the USA. Why do you think they send their children here for education? Education is the #1 above-all forget-everything-else important criterion for Chinese parents. Ever notice how American parents are not sending their children to China for college in droves?
The problem with setting up long-distance rail in America is that all the land is private property, protected by law. The 1980s Texas TGV failed due to this problem (as well as corruption). In China, it's no problem! You simply confiscate the land and build. Progressivism is alive and well in China.
I've been on the Chinese CRH2 train many times. The first time I saw one sitting in the station, my immediate reaction was "It's a Japanese shinkansen!" You know your gut feeling that you don't rationally control? Yeah, that. A total copy.
But try telling the Chinese that: they simply won't accept it. The CRH2 is Chinese innovation through and through, it was built from blueprints up by Us Good Chinese People. Same as the Shanghai maglev. Tell any resident of Shanghai that the maglev was built by Germans and they'll turn their brains off.
Marxism? Are you joking, sir? What on Earth is that discredited ideology doing in a serious adult discussion?
Chinese navel-gazing can be quite adequately explained by racism. There are Han Chinese and then there are the lesser races of the world. Stagnation (they called it stability) was a function of China for thousands of years - in fact, they would not exist as a culture today without it.
Bonus Marxist history lesson: after Marxists took over China, they declared war on their own culture and began an orgy of destruction. Religion was destroyed (yay!) including Buddhism (less of a yay, although Buddhism is a religion it always seems to get off easy.) Marxists energetically sought out priceless, irreplaceable cultural artifacts and destroyed them. Centuries-old writings of educated Chinese were burned to ashes, lost forever. Why? Because science said so!
Let's do China one better, and buy its tech companies and loot their assets! What's that you say? China has laws on the books prohibiting the sale or investment of companies which may damage its national interest? Entire industries are restricted? And there are parts of China's economy totally prohibited from any foreign investment whatsoever? Surely Europe and America can trust this country and not apply any reciprocal policies that fuck over China as much as China fucks over foreign firms.
That sad old "narrative" pops up in every single China thread on Slashdot, ever. Hint: the US did not "get into power" that way, and China's wholesale technology theft is orders of magnitude larger than that practiced by a 19th century agricultural nation. *sigh*
I see again and again in Slashdot's China stories, the common strain of "But America is worse and we shouldn't talk about China at all!" Come on guys, we can talk about something other than ourselves once in a while. Face it, America is NOT at the root of everything evil, including China. Sometimes, the Chinese even talk about their own porn laws without even once comparing their laws to American laws. Heck, a few of them aren't even educated in how the American system of government works! So give the "b-b-b-but America" bullshit a rest, OK?
Wrong! The UN, as an unelected body, can make dispassionate decisions without being subject to the whim of the uneducated masses. Imagine if the entire US Congress was replaced overnight with smart people who didn't listen to faux news sources and who weren't beholden to peasants and farmers from Hicksville, Flyover Territory, USA. It would be a new era of smart government by smart people who know what the right thing to do and who aren't afraid of consequences. I mean, come on! Today, a backhoe operator's opinion matters just as much as a university professor! Good government is better than self-government.
Then you don't know what is. State-controlled media would be like having a Department of Press, right alongside Defense, Agriculture, and so on. Think of the BBC or Xinhua News as examples that exist today.
I'd be careful quoting Animal Farm if I were you. You know George Orwell wrote the book based on his experiences in real-life dyed-in-the-wool socialism as it was actually practiced in reality? State-controlled media is not a reality in America.
Actually, most North Koreans wholeheartedly support their government. I've met several IRL and online, and at the World Expo, and they've all had pretty firm opinions on the subject. Saying North Koreans want to be free is like saying Chinese want democracy: it's a fiction of the West and has fuck-all to do with reality on the ground.
Oh yeah, the only thing that ever matters is when a self-selected sample of writers puts words on paper. Nothing else matters. What is the percentage of humans who have lived? And what percentage of those humans got book deals and successfully negotiated the minefield to get not only published, but indexed by a 15-year-old company? Surely this is the sum of all human knowledge! How could it be otherwise? Oh, no, my anti-intellectualism is showing! How dare I question my betters?
You realize that you have just spent a thousand words DEFENDING idiots? Uhhh, dude, take a step back. Idiots DESERVE to be oppressed. And yet you use IQ as a method of measuring the worth of people. The irony!
"And it turns out he was a missing person that nobody missed at all."
--The Dixie Chicks, "Goodbye, Earl"
Uhhh....your Ameriphobia is showing. When all you do all day is think about how America is bad, then it's not surprising when you invent scenarios in which you are correct. I am reminded of the Baptist preacher who thinks that every time someone gets an STD, it must be the work of Satan.
Yeah. That would be a great idea. And I want a pony, too!
The truth is, Assange IS Wikileaks. He built the whole website as a monument to himself. It wasn't as some sort of block to totalitarianism, it's a testament to his Ameriphobia. We attempt to destroy that which we do not understand. Intelligence agencies do keep a limited supply of "honey traps" on hand. The most telling detail of his story was while he was with some CIA whore, and the whole time he was reading stories about himself online instead of sticking his tongue down her throat. You'd figure that if he really was against IMPERALISM AND CHRISTIANITY BLARRGHARGHBL he maybe could have kept his dick in his pants for a while. But no, he fell for the oldest trick in the book, and now there's a cell waiting for him in United States Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility, Florence, Colorado, right alongside other Ameriphobes like Yu Kikumura and Timothy McVeigh.
"Where cultural progress is genuinely successful and ills are cured, this progress is seldom received with enthusiasm. Instead, they are taken for granted and attention focuses on those ills that remain."
-- Odo Marquard, Philosopher
I pity you, you debased foodie. Die, die, die. Since moving to China in 2004, I have eliminated processed foods from my diet, period. Not out of choice, out of necessity. Such foods are simply not available for purchase. Maybe in Shanghai you can get Hot Pockets but around here, forget it. Entirely forgotten is the fact that, omigosh, someone might encounter a food and NOT LIKE IT. Blasphemy! We shall all blindly follow TV chefs and eat what they deem trendy!
PS only a POS foodie would say some stupid bullshit like "slow food". Talk about your Western cultural blinders. I have been involved in any number of traditional Chinese dinners that take 2-3 hours to complete. It is rather nice to sit down and enjoy the entire experience from beginning to end. The mid-meal cigarette is surely something your kind would be horrified by, but nonetheless exists here, and cannot be appreciated by a narrow-minded militant nonsmoker. Who the fuck cares if some food has monounsaturated fats if it tastes like a camel's ass droppings?
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Uh...guy? Hungary was not in the West. It was rather firmly in the East. It tried to join our side, but was was thankfully put down by the forces of scientific socialism and prevented from making a huge mistake.
Oh, and dude? I live in China. It's not a police state. Please stop saying that. Kthx!
As an American, you can never, ever be right to praise America, EVER. We are the worst fascist corporatist imperialist system to set foot upon the world. "None of that would fly in the States" go ahead and try that line of thinking with the editors of the New York Times. You will gently be let down and told to get a proper education at the [leftist] universities of the United States.
Huh. A former Communist country having a negative view of Socialists. I wonder what might have caused that idea?
Heh, heh. You forgot "to the barricades, Comrades!" at the end of your speech. To which country did you emigrate to escape the corporate fascism of your native land? What? You didn't leave? Surprise, surprise.
You do know that China greatly admires Western democracies and desires to emulate their system? Of course, this won't happen overnight...it will be 50+ years until China is safe for democracy. "Liberal democracy has failed" LOL keep flogging that dead horse. I especially recommend doing this in the presence of people who actually lived under True Socialism[tm].
Yeah! And I know one charming fellow here in China who makes his living importing illiterate Chinese peasants into Europe exploiting that exact principle. Let me know how it works out for you!
Yes, you are correct, though you do not know why. Go is not a game like Chess or Monopoly or Boggle. Weiqi (not Go, quit calling it that) is culture. Weiqi is one of the Four Arts, the other three being music, poetry, and painting. Would you condemn any other Art for being not up to Western standards? "This Chinese poetry is bullshit! It's written with some unreadable glyphs, and the entire subtext is riddled with quarrels and pretense!"
Fucking racists. From now on, Kim0, please stop criticizing cultures other than your own. Your racism privileges have been revoked.
It speaks volumes that a Westerner finds the idea of a nation promoting its own interests to be a weird idea. If some idea benefits 20,000 Americans OR benefits 20,001 Kenyans, it's obvious that America should pursue the latter course, eh? Sad.
You want to see racism and blind nationalism, come to China. I'm telling you they have nothing, nothing like the self-hatred that 2011 Americans have. Chinese would say the desire for something better is the foundation of the USA. Why do you think they send their children here for education? Education is the #1 above-all forget-everything-else important criterion for Chinese parents. Ever notice how American parents are not sending their children to China for college in droves?
The problem with setting up long-distance rail in America is that all the land is private property, protected by law. The 1980s Texas TGV failed due to this problem (as well as corruption). In China, it's no problem! You simply confiscate the land and build. Progressivism is alive and well in China.
But try telling the Chinese that: they simply won't accept it. The CRH2 is Chinese innovation through and through, it was built from blueprints up by Us Good Chinese People. Same as the Shanghai maglev. Tell any resident of Shanghai that the maglev was built by Germans and they'll turn their brains off.
Marxism? Are you joking, sir? What on Earth is that discredited ideology doing in a serious adult discussion?
Chinese navel-gazing can be quite adequately explained by racism. There are Han Chinese and then there are the lesser races of the world. Stagnation (they called it stability) was a function of China for thousands of years - in fact, they would not exist as a culture today without it.
Bonus Marxist history lesson: after Marxists took over China, they declared war on their own culture and began an orgy of destruction. Religion was destroyed (yay!) including Buddhism (less of a yay, although Buddhism is a religion it always seems to get off easy.) Marxists energetically sought out priceless, irreplaceable cultural artifacts and destroyed them. Centuries-old writings of educated Chinese were burned to ashes, lost forever. Why? Because science said so!
Let's do China one better, and buy its tech companies and loot their assets! What's that you say? China has laws on the books prohibiting the sale or investment of companies which may damage its national interest? Entire industries are restricted? And there are parts of China's economy totally prohibited from any foreign investment whatsoever? Surely Europe and America can trust this country and not apply any reciprocal policies that fuck over China as much as China fucks over foreign firms.
That sad old "narrative" pops up in every single China thread on Slashdot, ever. Hint: the US did not "get into power" that way, and China's wholesale technology theft is orders of magnitude larger than that practiced by a 19th century agricultural nation. *sigh*
Again, nothing about China. Give it up, man, it's not all about you.
I see again and again in Slashdot's China stories, the common strain of "But America is worse and we shouldn't talk about China at all!" Come on guys, we can talk about something other than ourselves once in a while. Face it, America is NOT at the root of everything evil, including China. Sometimes, the Chinese even talk about their own porn laws without even once comparing their laws to American laws. Heck, a few of them aren't even educated in how the American system of government works! So give the "b-b-b-but America" bullshit a rest, OK?
Wrong! The UN, as an unelected body, can make dispassionate decisions without being subject to the whim of the uneducated masses. Imagine if the entire US Congress was replaced overnight with smart people who didn't listen to faux news sources and who weren't beholden to peasants and farmers from Hicksville, Flyover Territory, USA. It would be a new era of smart government by smart people who know what the right thing to do and who aren't afraid of consequences. I mean, come on! Today, a backhoe operator's opinion matters just as much as a university professor! Good government is better than self-government.
Then you don't know what is. State-controlled media would be like having a Department of Press, right alongside Defense, Agriculture, and so on. Think of the BBC or Xinhua News as examples that exist today.
I'd be careful quoting Animal Farm if I were you. You know George Orwell wrote the book based on his experiences in real-life dyed-in-the-wool socialism as it was actually practiced in reality? State-controlled media is not a reality in America.
Actually, most North Koreans wholeheartedly support their government. I've met several IRL and online, and at the World Expo, and they've all had pretty firm opinions on the subject. Saying North Koreans want to be free is like saying Chinese want democracy: it's a fiction of the West and has fuck-all to do with reality on the ground.
Oh yeah, the only thing that ever matters is when a self-selected sample of writers puts words on paper. Nothing else matters. What is the percentage of humans who have lived? And what percentage of those humans got book deals and successfully negotiated the minefield to get not only published, but indexed by a 15-year-old company? Surely this is the sum of all human knowledge! How could it be otherwise? Oh, no, my anti-intellectualism is showing! How dare I question my betters?
You realize that you have just spent a thousand words DEFENDING idiots? Uhhh, dude, take a step back. Idiots DESERVE to be oppressed. And yet you use IQ as a method of measuring the worth of people. The irony!
"And it turns out he was a missing person that nobody missed at all."
--The Dixie Chicks, "Goodbye, Earl"
Uhhh....your Ameriphobia is showing. When all you do all day is think about how America is bad, then it's not surprising when you invent scenarios in which you are correct. I am reminded of the Baptist preacher who thinks that every time someone gets an STD, it must be the work of Satan.
Yeah. That would be a great idea. And I want a pony, too!
The truth is, Assange IS Wikileaks. He built the whole website as a monument to himself. It wasn't as some sort of block to totalitarianism, it's a testament to his Ameriphobia. We attempt to destroy that which we do not understand. Intelligence agencies do keep a limited supply of "honey traps" on hand. The most telling detail of his story was while he was with some CIA whore, and the whole time he was reading stories about himself online instead of sticking his tongue down her throat. You'd figure that if he really was against IMPERALISM AND CHRISTIANITY BLARRGHARGHBL he maybe could have kept his dick in his pants for a while. But no, he fell for the oldest trick in the book, and now there's a cell waiting for him in United States Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility, Florence, Colorado, right alongside other Ameriphobes like Yu Kikumura and Timothy McVeigh.
"Where cultural progress is genuinely successful and ills are cured, this progress is seldom received with enthusiasm. Instead, they are taken for granted and attention focuses on those ills that remain."
-- Odo Marquard, Philosopher
I pity you, you debased foodie. Die, die, die. Since moving to China in 2004, I have eliminated processed foods from my diet, period. Not out of choice, out of necessity. Such foods are simply not available for purchase. Maybe in Shanghai you can get Hot Pockets but around here, forget it. Entirely forgotten is the fact that, omigosh, someone might encounter a food and NOT LIKE IT. Blasphemy! We shall all blindly follow TV chefs and eat what they deem trendy!
PS only a POS foodie would say some stupid bullshit like "slow food". Talk about your Western cultural blinders. I have been involved in any number of traditional Chinese dinners that take 2-3 hours to complete. It is rather nice to sit down and enjoy the entire experience from beginning to end. The mid-meal cigarette is surely something your kind would be horrified by, but nonetheless exists here, and cannot be appreciated by a narrow-minded militant nonsmoker. Who the fuck cares if some food has monounsaturated fats if it tastes like a camel's ass droppings?