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China Censors 60,000 Porn Sites, 5,000 Arrested
lothos writes with news that China has arrested thousands more people and shuttered 60,000 websites in an ongoing anti-pornography crackdown.
"Wang Chen, director of the Information Office of the State Council, said at a news conference that some 350 million pieces of pornographic and indecent internet content were eliminated, according to the Xinhua report. The government launched a special campaign a year ago to rid the internet of pornographic and vulgar content, Xinhua reported. Overall, the campaign included 2,197 criminal cases involving 4,965 people who violated Chinese law by disseminating pornography via the internet or mobile phones, the news agency said. Of those, 58 people received prison sentences exceeding five years."
They obviously didn't get the memo: the Internet IS for porn! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo
where government officials can openly keep harems but citizens can't even watch porn.
...are taking notes right now. They'd love to do this, and have been openly trying for a looong time.
It's going to take... *days* to restore all those sites in a way that can't be censored.
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You would think that a country intent on controlling it's population growth would encourage fapping.
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is named Wang.
Everybody Wang Chen tonight!
Sorry but there's no fun happening there tonight...
Net Neutrality? Or Fairness Doctrine? Nah. The FCC has been doing this since the 1950s, before those buzzwords even existed. In the same fashion they censor radio and television, they will soon be doing the same thing China is doing: censoring the "filthy nudie pics" from the web.
Of course they should not be able to do. CATV and internet are PRIVATE domains so the FCC should keep their hands off. But they won't. Our US and EU politicians are no different than Chinese politicians - they all have avarice and ambition - love of money & love of power. They'll censor the porn off the net and justify it as "protecting the children".
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
It's part of everyday life in china. Whether you agree with it or not, censorship is a way of life there.
Therefore posting a story like this shouldnt be news or news relevant to nerds. Its about the same as posting an item in the crime log of a local paper.
Bottom line this is an internal matter for china. You people need to just butt out.
Huhhhuhuhuhuhuhhh.
"Wang"
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grab your dick and double click
Ok, here is a question: Is this actually different in other western countries?
As far as I know in Germany for example you are not allowed to publish porn on the net unless you make sure that people under 18 don't have access it. To confirm to this criteria it isn't enough to just add an agegate, but instead it requires things like sending credit card info, PostIdent (you show your Id-card at a post office and post office confirms your identity to the website) or something else that is much more secure, thus essentially removing porn from the public Internet.
Now this of course doesn't mean that there isn't porn on the net in Germany, there is tons of it as the net isn't filtered, but I don't think many of it is hosted in Germany by German companies.
So censoring sexually explicit works of authorship is a right-wing plank in the United States, but it's left-wing in red China. Doesn't that destroy the meaning of "left wing" and "right wing"?
...always blocking access to my shitty Chinese porn sites.
"I hope you know how very lucky you are to know me, because I am so incredibly incredible."
"350 million pieces of pornographic and indecent internet content were eliminated"
He said "Wang"!...snort, snort, snort...
Won't somebody think of the children? Oh, wait... 4chan /b/ already does that... and in this context too.
to a United States near you!
They couldn't have gotten another guy without the first name Wang for this story? That is priceless.
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... porn fucks you.
Pornography has been around as long as humans has been around. China is wasting it's time trying to stamp it out.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
...those in power make it pretty clear that porn is illegal. In the US, there's all this uncertainty over obscenity, arbitrary definitions of what is or is not art, such that no one really knows whether they are breaking the law until after the fact. And that's the whole point of it, to keep everyone in confusion and fear. Heck, this year we persecuted a man for importing Japanese *comics*. That pretty much revoked our license to poke fun at archaic laws in other countries for the next 20 years.
They might not have porn but they can still get screwed by the government.
And what will they do with them?
All governments, including our own, always make illegal some ubiquitous, harmless activity so that there is always an excuse to round up large parts of the population at any time. In China, it's porn. Here, it's drug laws,.soon to include "questioning homeland security" or "revealing K-Street Lobbying contributions" to congress.
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I would have liked to see more detail as well, however I think it's not hard to find serious faults with what the US Congress does and what it tacitly agrees with by not objecting. I don't see most "congress-critters" doing anything to stop some of the most heinous behavior the US government engages in. A few recent examples include:
This all happened under President's Obama's watch. This all happened with overwhelmingly silent complicity of his Democratic Party Congress. Glenn Greenwald, former constitutional law and civil rights litigator, calls this wiretapping "at least as pernicious as any power asserted during the Bush/Cheney years".
That's hardly the behavior I'd expect from "fine, upstanding people".
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I fucking love the way some dumb Americans say "Europeans" suggesting that somehow Europe isn't a continent with 50 different countries.
I think it has something to do with some analogy between the confederation that is the European Union and the confederation that was the united States of America for the first decade of its existence.
Chances are pornography is just a trojan horse for more control over the internet. First it's pornography, then it can be used for anything the government considers "subversive".
Tits > Explosions
Yes, it's that simple.
where the age of the Enlightenment was before 1776.
I see again and again in Slashdot's China stories, the common strain of "But America is worse and we shouldn't talk about China at all!" Come on guys, we can talk about something other than ourselves once in a while. Face it, America is NOT at the root of everything evil, including China. Sometimes, the Chinese even talk about their own porn laws without even once comparing their laws to American laws. Heck, a few of them aren't even educated in how the American system of government works! So give the "b-b-b-but America" bullshit a rest, OK?
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Yet another story about china arresting people for pornography usage. Clue people they are a communist country,everything they do is watched,controlled. Unless you want to go to war to free the people so they can view there porn without worrying about getting arrested,find something else to post. The people themselves must uprise against there government.
Jack of all trades,master of none
I used to watched a lot of porn. I would start my download at night and wake up to a whole new collection in the morning, giddy as a kid on Christmas. I used to even get excited when I got porn with Asian girls.
For a while.
Clip after clip it seemed that these girls simply didn't have their heart into it....like they didn't actually want to be there. They'd be looking down at the ground seemingly at another place in their heads, maybe trying to escape what's being done (except for the shit-eaters...they really seem to love their jobs). Not like the American girls who can take a load in the face and smile, never batting an eye. It got to the point where as soon as I noticed an Asian porn in the collection, it went into the remainders bin along with the anal and accidental transvestite porn (oops,how'd that get in there?).
So I, for one, welcome less Asian porn.
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I don't know why, but it is a very trendy thing on some sites like Slashdot. In particular any time faults with another country are mentioned. It seems to be a case of "Nobody in America is allowed to say anything since America also does bad things." I don't know why it is common or popular, but there you go.
Censoring the internet for porn? I guess Wang Chen won't be doing the "Wang Chung" tonight....
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Drug addiction destroys people. If you don't know this, all it means is you've not taken the time to meet and deal with addicts. I encourage you to do so, I encourage everyone to do so. Do a bit of volunteer work, meet a few addicts and see the depths that addiction can cause someone to sink to.
The reason is because it is something that needs to be considered with regards to drugs. While the US's war on drugs is quite silly in its present state, in particular since non-addictive drugs like marijuana are banned, perspective on the whole situation is needed. Not all drugs are something that you just harmlessly enjoy in your free time. Many have serious physical and mental consequences, they will cause an addiction that will rule your life, and ruin it.
You have to weight that in terms of what is and isn't legal. All drugs are not created equal.
It is a complex issue, one I encourage everyone to become more acquainted with so that you can make informed choices regarding it. However part of that needs to be to meet some addicts and get an understanding of just how bad addiction can be, so that the downsides are properly understood.
use a definition of Totalitarian that's as loose as a $20 whore.
Careful, your Chomskys showing...
I am saying that due to the destructive nature of some drugs, it isn't as simple as "Just legalize it and let everything work itself out." That is fine for marijuana and other like substances. While abuse of any substance, those included, can cause problems they are not the sort of addictive things that will cause immediate or widespread harm. However that is not true for things like Heroin, Crystal Meth and so on. These are things that are literally so addictive that one use can hook you and that can have withdrawal symptoms that can kill you. Just legalizing something like that is really not very safe.
That is why I encourage people to learn about the problems with addiction, to gain an understanding of it. That way you can better understand the problems, the downsides, of legalization of various substances. As with anything in life there are positives and negatives and those have to be weighed. If you don't understand, or acknowledge, the costs, the impacts, of something then you cannot make an informed decision on it.
I just wake up (ya, it's almost 2pm), getting stoned (wake & bake!) and this is the sort of news I see?
Mr Wang and Porn.
No, I didn't read the article, no need.
Mr. Wang has a problem with porn.
Though maybe his problem would be fixed by a name change, but what do I know?
I'm sure he does good work.
Be seeing you...
Why do Christians hate Communism when it's Communist governments that implement all the anti-freedom measures that Christians are always clamoring for in free countries?
I wish I could express my opinion of Chinese law and government but it would be pornographic. Besides I don't want that stuff on my shoe.
While I agree with most of what you are talking about the Anwar Awlaki thing is bullshit Anwar is an Enemy Combatant. You kill them. You also can talk about killing them. You did not see WWII Generals worried about what they were saying about the enemy. The fact is our politicians suck but the people in the US are turning in to liberal European pussies as well.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
It's over 9000!
I am far from a liberal or a pussy, and the idea that some scumbag politician can call me "an enemy combatant" and order me killed on sight, totally ignoring my Constitutional rights as a US citizen, is frightening and infuriating to me. And all of this with no judicial review or oversight. Now if I am hanging around in Iraq and decide to shoot at some US soldiers, or am in the terrorist bunker making bombs, that would be fine and dandy to kill me. But the KoS order is active at all time, in all places. And that is no better than the soviets or chinese.
If you had almost a billion and a half people (1,400,000,000) would you want to take the chance on unwanted pregnancies (erections, dilations, you know f*cking,) because even a rounding error on the condom testing machine means a whole lot more mouths to feed.
That's because the Chinese leadership is unimaginative and keeps thinking of sex as "man on top woman on the bottom", missionary-style pump-and-shoot, plain vanilla sex.
If they actually went to most of these sites, they'd discover that there's a lot more orifices to explore and a lot more ways to get everybody off than that boring ol' missionary position s*t.
WEN Jiabao and HU Jintao are two of the most tight-assed people so desperately in need of blow-jobs in the history of the planet.
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In China, such internet sites as the New York Times, LA Times, Guradian, Independent etc are classified as pornographic sites. Those Chinese in China viewing the web pages are automatically guilty of crimes against the state, and subject to exicution without judicial procedings.
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The usage of Left and Right gets confused. How and why takes a bit of history.
From Wikipedia:
In politics, Left, left-wing and leftist are generally used to describe support for social change to create a more egalitarian society. The terms Left and Right were coined during the French Revolution, referring to the seating arrangement in parliament; those who sat on the left generally supported the radical changes of the revolution, including the creation of a republic and secularization.
I believe that's mostly correct, but leaves out a critical detail: the French Revolution was overtly and explicitly a conflict between classes. You had partisans of monarchy, aristocracy, the bourgeoisie, and the proletariat and peasantry -- and they used those terms. The most passionate advocates of egalitarianism, republicanism, and radical change -- the farthest Left -- were the poorer classes, who were the majority of society; the most determined opponents of these things -- the Right -- were the aristocracy and clergy, who were a minority. The main weight of the Left was the bourgeoisie.
We usually talk about the French Revolution in terms of the assumption of sovereignty by the National Assembly -- the collapse of the old monarchy and the creation of the new republic. So, there's a lot of discussion of the new, emergent republican state, and its use to eliminate the old social structures and enforce the new social structures. The question of support for the state is the question of support for the new, republican state.
So at this point, this is the model of Left and Right:
The Left agenda:
#1 Redistribute power to the poor and oppressed.
#2 Oppose old social norms and advocate new social norms.
#3 Support consolidation of power in the state.
The Right agenda:
#1 Consolidate power in the traditional elite.
#2 Support old social norms and denigrate new social norms.
#3 Oppose consolidation of power in the state.
In these circumstances, I believe that it is clear that #1 is the defining principle in the agenda of Left and Right, #2 is understood as an extension of #1, and #3 follows from #1 and #2 and from the fact that the Left, broadly speaking, controlled a new, fledgling state.
It's pretty easy to see similar circumstances in other social revolutions, particularly Russia in 1917.
However, you should notice that the relation between the three principles is contingent, and assuming that all three line up the same way at all times is a mistake, and leads to confusion. In particular, failing to see the class conflict as the primary issue leads to all sorts of confusion. Obviously, the proletarian radicals who supported the new republican state wanted it to be strong enough to permanently end the power of the aristocracy, but they would not have wanted the old monarchist state to be so strong.
Fast forward to Emperor Napoleon -- well, the problem is right there in the name. Is the French Empire for or against egalitarian ideals? Is it supported by or opposed by the poor and oppressed? It's all much muddier.
The history of Communist Parties, and of the nations they control, is more complicated, but I think there are significant parallels. The biggest difference is that through the changed circumstances of those revolutions, the party in power was nominally the same, but changed dramatically in character. The Bolsheviks of 1917 were very much supporters of the poor and oppressed, represented new social ideals, and sought to establish a new state with the strength to enforce the will of the poor and oppressed; the Communist Party that sent tanks to crush Prague Spring, or the Communist Party that put down the Tiananmen Square uprising, were very different in character.
Left and Right lend themselves to use as terms of comparison of relative degree, but it seems to me that it's a rather difficult comparison to make in the muddy middle. I don't think it's at all clear which of the contemporary US and PRC is more Left or Right, and in contemporary circumstances, I don't think it's a useful comparison.