You mean conspiracies like 350 newspapers publishing the same editorial topic on the same day, without it being disclosed beforehand? That kind of conspiracy?
Look, the entire concept of "conspiracy theories are DUM" was created by the CIA in the 70s. No, that's not a conspiracy theory, and yes that really happened.
Minus points for mentioning the Nobel prizes, which once were noble but today are the objects of ridicule.
For most of human history, deception and secrecy have been foundations of power. Secrecy: If people don't know what's going on, they can't oppose you. Deception: lying is extraordinarily powerful if you can't speak back. These two concepts have been used by elites for millennia to keep and maintain their power over us, and they like it that way.
Now, the internet is threatening to upset the whole apple cart. People can view with their own eyes and make their own decisions. These decisions are frequently not in the interests of our ruling class, so they must not be allowed to be discussed. Since the tech giants were recently elevated to ruling class stature, they are expected to do their part along with the media, and keep the masses under control. We can't have a free and open internet, because that would mean that our ruling classes might have to change. Brexit and Trump were clear warnings of what will continue to happen in the future if we don't change the internet from a free and open platform into a curated, walled garden where only approved opinions may be discussed.
It was the experts who had the brilliant idea of the Iraq war. And the Syria war. And the Libya war. And the Yemen war. Shall I go on? We've been listening to them and trusting them, and they've driven us off a cliff repeatedly. Moreover they haven't learned a thing and are repeating their mistakes. Why should we trust experts when they are clearly making decisions which harm others?
OK this is funny now - in addition to more whataboutism, you're now using the ad hominem fallacy. At no point did you refute or even address the fact that Venezuela is socialist.
Dude uh...you're really out in left field now. I don't know where you've been reading, but it's time to get back to the rest of us. Especially when you claim loudly you're in reality. If you have to say it, you're probably not, yaknow?
It's better if the Democrat party burns to the ground. They and their corporate donors own the party. The Left needs a new vehicle, and if that means starting a new party, so be it. America needs real opposition, not a Uniparty who has more in common with each other in DC than the rest of the country.
So...vote for Democrats? The party of identity politics that blames our workers for all the problems in our society? The party whose adherents are openly calling for them to be replaced? The party that represents corporate interests and has won in court by arguing it doesn't have to respect the vote and can appoint whoever it likes as a candidate? You know, if voters don't punish them at the polls, they'll just laugh at the morons who don't know any better. The only thing the Democrats understand is threatening their meal ticket and putting them in permanent minority. What's the democrat message for November? I don't know and neither does anyone else.
It's not whataboutism, it's proof positive fake news exists and is still going strong. Heck, how did all those newspapers collude behind the scenes to produce the same editorial on the same day? WTF? And they claim they don't work together to bias the news!
On Saturday, dozens of media outlets reported that federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents arrested an illegal alien who was taking his wife to the hospital to deliver their baby - but they conveniently left out one key detail: the man was a wanted murder suspect.
The timing of the media's latest deception to demonize the Trump administration for political gain comes just two days after more than 350 newspapers wrote op-eds bemoaning President Donald Trump's attacks on the media for inaccurately covering news stories and for sometimes reporting blatantly false information.
Why, Google will judge for us, of course. They have all the smart people working for them. We can trust them. And as for censorship? Google just had thousands of employees revolt over complying with China's censorship. Surely they would never agree to what the Western ruling class wants censored. It's not like they're a part of it. They are rebels, loners, fighting the good fight against...the Islamic Republic of Iran? Hmm I thought Islamophobia was a big no-no? Anyway the point is to trust Google and not question their judgment.
There is this constant attempt by the Left to label any position it doesn't like as far right or Nazi. Thus, once labeled, it can be removed. Coincidentally, this is the same philosophy used by the far left regimes of the 20th century. They failed in part because they punished anyone who told the truth and thus could not obtain accurate information about their situation. That's the problem we developed free speech to deal with. It's very worrisome the Left apparently learned nothing from this.
Hagbard Celine's Law: accurate information is only possible in a non-punishing situation.
Yeah! Because all a 54 year old father of three needs to do is move to New York City, call around to some friends, and get a job in publishing.
A lot of people there were really optimistic that the solution to technological unemployment was to teach unemployed West Virginia truck drivers to code so they could participate in the AI revolution. I used to think this was a weird straw man occasionally trotted out by Freddie deBoer, but all these top economists were *super enthusiastic* about old white guys whose mill has fallen on hard times founding the next generation of nimble tech startups.
Please point out the leftists that are in favor of freedom of speech. There aren't any. As an SJW recently said, "Unfortunately, common sense is just not common. We have to regulate every aspect of peopleâ(TM)s lives."
I was asking the man who actually lives in Venezuela, not people anxious to remove the taint of yet another horrible failure from the "good brand" of socialism. For you, here's Jeremy Corbyn, a man who has been a socialist all his life and who knows socialism when he sees it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
"Chavez... showed us that there is a different, and a better way of doing things. It's called socialism".
I'm presenting your own left-wing arguments to you and watching in utter astonishment while you knock them down and tell us all that America was actually a force for good the entire time you were protesting and hurling vile abuse against it. So the whole time you weren't serious. Typical.
Mr. Rogers was a single personality who retired decades ago. PBS today no longer represents anyone but the Left and increasingly the far left. Your knowledge of America is far outdated, Ivan. Nice try though.
You mean conspiracies like 350 newspapers publishing the same editorial topic on the same day, without it being disclosed beforehand? That kind of conspiracy?
Look, the entire concept of "conspiracy theories are DUM" was created by the CIA in the 70s. No, that's not a conspiracy theory, and yes that really happened.
Minus points for mentioning the Nobel prizes, which once were noble but today are the objects of ridicule.
For most of human history, deception and secrecy have been foundations of power. Secrecy: If people don't know what's going on, they can't oppose you. Deception: lying is extraordinarily powerful if you can't speak back. These two concepts have been used by elites for millennia to keep and maintain their power over us, and they like it that way.
Now, the internet is threatening to upset the whole apple cart. People can view with their own eyes and make their own decisions. These decisions are frequently not in the interests of our ruling class, so they must not be allowed to be discussed. Since the tech giants were recently elevated to ruling class stature, they are expected to do their part along with the media, and keep the masses under control. We can't have a free and open internet, because that would mean that our ruling classes might have to change. Brexit and Trump were clear warnings of what will continue to happen in the future if we don't change the internet from a free and open platform into a curated, walled garden where only approved opinions may be discussed.
It was the experts who had the brilliant idea of the Iraq war. And the Syria war. And the Libya war. And the Yemen war. Shall I go on? We've been listening to them and trusting them, and they've driven us off a cliff repeatedly. Moreover they haven't learned a thing and are repeating their mistakes. Why should we trust experts when they are clearly making decisions which harm others?
Wow, way to punch down. Speak truth to the powerless!
OK this is funny now - in addition to more whataboutism, you're now using the ad hominem fallacy. At no point did you refute or even address the fact that Venezuela is socialist.
Dude uh...you're really out in left field now. I don't know where you've been reading, but it's time to get back to the rest of us. Especially when you claim loudly you're in reality. If you have to say it, you're probably not, yaknow?
It's better if the Democrat party burns to the ground. They and their corporate donors own the party. The Left needs a new vehicle, and if that means starting a new party, so be it. America needs real opposition, not a Uniparty who has more in common with each other in DC than the rest of the country.
So...vote for Democrats? The party of identity politics that blames our workers for all the problems in our society? The party whose adherents are openly calling for them to be replaced? The party that represents corporate interests and has won in court by arguing it doesn't have to respect the vote and can appoint whoever it likes as a candidate? You know, if voters don't punish them at the polls, they'll just laugh at the morons who don't know any better. The only thing the Democrats understand is threatening their meal ticket and putting them in permanent minority. What's the democrat message for November? I don't know and neither does anyone else.
I swear to God I've read this exact same comment falsely accusing me of being a Leftist before.
It's not whataboutism, it's proof positive fake news exists and is still going strong. Heck, how did all those newspapers collude behind the scenes to produce the same editorial on the same day? WTF? And they claim they don't work together to bias the news!
It's always a pleasure to see whataboutism deployed for its original purpose, distracting from the failures of socialism.
Fake news you say? You mean like this?
On Saturday, dozens of media outlets reported that federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents arrested an illegal alien who was taking his wife to the hospital to deliver their baby - but they conveniently left out one key detail: the man was a wanted murder suspect.
The timing of the media's latest deception to demonize the Trump administration for political gain comes just two days after more than 350 newspapers wrote op-eds bemoaning President Donald Trump's attacks on the media for inaccurately covering news stories and for sometimes reporting blatantly false information.
https://www.dailywire.com/news...
Why, Google will judge for us, of course. They have all the smart people working for them. We can trust them. And as for censorship? Google just had thousands of employees revolt over complying with China's censorship. Surely they would never agree to what the Western ruling class wants censored. It's not like they're a part of it. They are rebels, loners, fighting the good fight against...the Islamic Republic of Iran? Hmm I thought Islamophobia was a big no-no? Anyway the point is to trust Google and not question their judgment.
Hate speech is speech the Left hates.
There is this constant attempt by the Left to label any position it doesn't like as far right or Nazi. Thus, once labeled, it can be removed. Coincidentally, this is the same philosophy used by the far left regimes of the 20th century. They failed in part because they punished anyone who told the truth and thus could not obtain accurate information about their situation. That's the problem we developed free speech to deal with. It's very worrisome the Left apparently learned nothing from this.
Hagbard Celine's Law: accurate information is only possible in a non-punishing situation.
The PRI in Mexico rigged elections for 80 years using nothing but paper ballots.
Yeah! Because all a 54 year old father of three needs to do is move to New York City, call around to some friends, and get a job in publishing.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2017...
As for Maduro, he publicly called Bernie Sanders "our revolutionary friend" and praised his candidacy. Pretty odd thing for a non-socialist to do.
Tourists flock not to the beaches, but the slums to see '21st-century socialism'
From a trickle a few years ago there are now thousands, travelling individually and on package tours, exploring a leftwing mecca which promises to build social justice in the form of "21st century socialism".
See, if that was actually true you wouldn't be in public bragging to everyone how great Apple products are, and that you are proud to own one.
Human status display isn't something we can stop consciously doing. It's built in to our brains.
Please point out the leftists that are in favor of freedom of speech. There aren't any. As an SJW recently said, "Unfortunately, common sense is just not common. We have to regulate every aspect of peopleâ(TM)s lives."
I was asking the man who actually lives in Venezuela, not people anxious to remove the taint of yet another horrible failure from the "good brand" of socialism. For you, here's Jeremy Corbyn, a man who has been a socialist all his life and who knows socialism when he sees it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
"Chavez ... showed us that there is a different, and a better way of doing things. It's called socialism".
I'm presenting your own left-wing arguments to you and watching in utter astonishment while you knock them down and tell us all that America was actually a force for good the entire time you were protesting and hurling vile abuse against it. So the whole time you weren't serious. Typical.
Is Venezuela socialist?
Like I said, zero empathy.
Mr. Rogers was a single personality who retired decades ago. PBS today no longer represents anyone but the Left and increasingly the far left. Your knowledge of America is far outdated, Ivan. Nice try though.
Only the Left has been using violence to shut down free speech, friend. Hell they don't even believe in the concept.