Buying guns has nothing to do with murdering other people. Millions and millions of Americans own millions and millions of guns and live a lifetime without ever pointing one at somebody, much less shooting one, much less actually killing one.
On the other hand, you can see what the gang bangers do. http://heyjackass.com/ is a dashboard that tabulates the ongoing carnage in Democratic-controlled Chicago. Be sure to check out the "police involved shootings" meter - in the single digits. THIS is what BLM identified as the problem.
The constant blast of unconnected to technology politics articles pushing a left wing agenda drove them off. You'd see constant "user since 2001, I'm out of here" comments on those, and they built over time. Now articles hardly break 100 comments, and under 30 is common.
Why would you want America to succeed? You hate Americans, remember? Deplorable racists. Burn the flag, spit on the constitution, free speech is hate speech. Patriotism is for morons. Or is this an Orwellian "we have always been friends with Eurasia" moment?
Because tons and tons of people out there have no lives and have become used to the media providing one for them. Why do you think celebrity news is so important? Or the Oscars? Or the Pulitzer prizes? Or the new fall sitcom lineup? They really do have lives empty of meaning and have become accustomed to the media giving them a life to follow. Hello professional sports?
Nope, I just have experience in the lower rungs of society, where people will goof off on the job and waste time. When they do so, they don't think they're doing anything wrong. They think they're pulling one over on their employer.
And why not? Society regularly screws people at the bottom over, so they think turnabout is fair play. When you make two dollars above minimum wage you see the world differently. I can see you have zero experience with this kind of thing, seeing as you think most people are like yourself and will happily work with low or no supervision. That's high conscientiousness, a personality trait that most people don't share. Especially those at the lower end of society. Low conscientiousness and low ambition is one of the reasons they're there in the first place.
I defer to Karl Marx when these sorts of things pop up. Or knowledgeable people who studied Marx intensively, such as Jeremy Corbyn, who said: "Chavez... showed us that there is a different, and a better way of doing things. It's called socialism".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
This just in...little known people are little known. But don't let that get in the way of a good sports bashing on Slashdot. You'll be modded up to +5 in no time.
Once again we see Trump Derangement Syndrome in action. A completely unrelated topic, and someone just has to rush in and change the conversation to Trump. It happens so often at Slashdot and is frequently modded up to +5, sadly.
It is indeed most often the case that government control of anything makes it suck worse. Here, the private sector is so awful that the government alternative is actually better. We should also point out that this is local government that is close to its citizens, federal government is isolated in DC and considers the rest of the nation as deplorable.
What!! Negative. Socialism is not government services. Socialism is government control of the means of production. End of story. That's literally what it is.
What's a paper shuffler, Grandpa? Wasn't that digitized decades ago?
Guess what, if you leave people to their own devices they will be lazy, turn in work late or incomplete, fool around on company time and generally waste your money. Sounds like you had a career of high achievement while surrounded by high consciousness people. Most lower level jobs are full of low consciousness people who hate work and will happily cheat you.
Bringing children into high carbon emitting countries is so bad. This is why it's so important to keep people in their home countries where they have tiny carbon footprints instead of allowing mass immigration into high carbon countries like America and EU. Remember, Bernie Sanders told Vice in an interview that massive immigration is a Koch brothers plan.
If you're toting the latest phone, you're going to have it out all the time. People will see it. We all know what it costs. It shouts to the world, "I HAVE ENOUGH INCOME TO AFFORD THIS OVERPRICED DONGLE!" It's the same as the peacock's useless tail. Companies have noticed that status is important and people will happily pay to have it. No different from leaving your keys with the BMW logo out on the table for everyone to see while you eat at a restaurant.
I believe gay married couples should be able to own guns to protect their marijuana plants. Tyranny?
Our goal in defeating Hillary was to remove the left's hand from our throat, not to put our hand around blue peoples' collective windpipe. We don't care how they live their lives, but leftists care very much how we live ours. Their goal is to lock both hands around our throat and squeeze until we submit to leftist tyranny or die.
We know where the leftists want it to end, with us silenced and subservient forever, toiling to pay taxes for them to redistribute to their clients as they pick at, poke at and torment us. You look at the things we stand for and all of them are about lifting the yoke off of us - cutting taxes, slashing regulations, guaranteeing the Second Amendment, protecting our religious liberty, and safeguarding us from terrorists and illegals. But everything leftists want, everything Hillary ran on, is about clamping the yoke ever tighter around our necks - raising taxes, issuing more regulations, disarming us, limiting our religious freedom, and putting us at risk from terrorists and alien criminals. The whole leftist platform is about putting us down and keeping us down.
Why do I get the idea that the word "harm" actually means "political ideas I disagree with and believe should be censored"? (reads essay: keywords, Trump, TEH ROOSHINS, Nazis) Yup. Pretty much this.
How did the Left go from protesting NAFTA to loving it the moment Trump was elected? Do you all really have memories that short? Seattle *burned* over NAFTA.
The Democrats gutted welfare at the same time they exploded the prison population, called black people 'super predators', at the same time they did NAFTA. Then they deregulated Wall Street, which crashed the economy within 10 years. That's what Democrats did. Democrats did things that Ronald Reagan could only dream about, in his wet dreams. George HW Bush couldn't pass NAFTA. It took Bill Clinton to do it. Bill Clinton gave the cover to the other corporate Democrats to go along with it. That was the beginning of the end for the working class in America.
Then the Democrats wag their finger at people with no money and no power, for not voting for a corporatist warmonger like Hillary Clinton. Why do you think the people in Michigan wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton? Maybe because she put half of them in fuckin' prison? Because she passed NAFTA, and Barack Obama was trying to sell TPP at the top of his lungs, at the same time she was trying to get working people to vote for her? They knew what the fuck was going on! That's why half the country didn't vote. But you're going to wag your finger at the people who actually do vote? Who come out and vote their conscience? You know what voting for the lesser of two evils gets you? Donald Trump!
Right-wing party line, eh? Know what else is the right-wing party line? Here's a 2015 exchange between Ezra Klein and Bernie Sanders that is highly relevant:
Ezra Klein
You said being a democratic socialist means a more international view. I think if you take global poverty that seriously, it leads you to conclusions that in the US are considered out of political bounds. Things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders. About sharply increasing...
Bernie Sanders
Open borders? No, that's a Koch brothers proposal.
Ezra Klein
Really?
Bernie Sanders
Of course. That's a right-wing proposal, which says essentially there is no United States....
Ezra Klein
But it would make...
Bernie Sanders
Excuse me...
Ezra Klein
It would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn't it?
Bernie Sanders
It would make everybody in America poorer â"you're doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don't think there's any country in the world that believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation in my view to do everything we can to help poor people. What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.
You know what youth unemployment is in the United States of America today? If you're a white high school graduate, it's 33 percent, Hispanic 36 percent, African American 51 percent. You think we should open the borders and bring in a lot of low-wage workers, or do you think maybe we should try to get jobs for those kids?
I think from a moral responsibility we've got to work with the rest of the industrialized world to address the problems of international poverty, but you don't do that by making people in this country even poorer.
Ezra Klein
Then what are the responsibilities that we have? Someone who is poor by US standards is quite well off by, say, Malaysian standards, so if the calculation goes so easily to the benefit of the person in the US, how do we think about that responsibility?
We have a nation-state structure. I agree on that. But philosophically, the question is how do you weight it? How do you think about what the foreign aid budget should be? How do you think about poverty abroad?
Bernie Sanders
I do weigh it. As a United States senator in Vermont, my first obligation is to make certain kids in my state and kids all over this country have the ability to go to college, which is why I am supporting tuition-free public colleges and universities.
Oh, we can do that already. It's just that it would cost 5x more and take 5x longer. People don't want good software, they want fast software that's cheap.
Trump derangement syndrome in action. A completely unrelated topic, and a sufferer just *has* to jump in and change the topic to Trump. Now we just wait for the +5 Insightful moderation instead of the more appropriate -1 Off-topic, and the circle jerk will be complete.
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Buying guns has nothing to do with murdering other people. Millions and millions of Americans own millions and millions of guns and live a lifetime without ever pointing one at somebody, much less shooting one, much less actually killing one.
On the other hand, you can see what the gang bangers do. http://heyjackass.com/ is a dashboard that tabulates the ongoing carnage in Democratic-controlled Chicago. Be sure to check out the "police involved shootings" meter - in the single digits. THIS is what BLM identified as the problem.
You'll find that society looks very negatively on deplorables like the janitor, and even worse at science deniers.
The constant blast of unconnected to technology politics articles pushing a left wing agenda drove them off. You'd see constant "user since 2001, I'm out of here" comments on those, and they built over time. Now articles hardly break 100 comments, and under 30 is common.
Why would you want America to succeed? You hate Americans, remember? Deplorable racists. Burn the flag, spit on the constitution, free speech is hate speech. Patriotism is for morons. Or is this an Orwellian "we have always been friends with Eurasia" moment?
Because tons and tons of people out there have no lives and have become used to the media providing one for them. Why do you think celebrity news is so important? Or the Oscars? Or the Pulitzer prizes? Or the new fall sitcom lineup? They really do have lives empty of meaning and have become accustomed to the media giving them a life to follow. Hello professional sports?
Nope, I just have experience in the lower rungs of society, where people will goof off on the job and waste time. When they do so, they don't think they're doing anything wrong. They think they're pulling one over on their employer.
And why not? Society regularly screws people at the bottom over, so they think turnabout is fair play. When you make two dollars above minimum wage you see the world differently. I can see you have zero experience with this kind of thing, seeing as you think most people are like yourself and will happily work with low or no supervision. That's high conscientiousness, a personality trait that most people don't share. Especially those at the lower end of society. Low conscientiousness and low ambition is one of the reasons they're there in the first place.
I defer to Karl Marx when these sorts of things pop up. Or knowledgeable people who studied Marx intensively, such as Jeremy Corbyn, who said: "Chavez ... showed us that there is a different, and a better way of doing things. It's called socialism".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Yeah, exactly: government control of the means of production. That's socialism. Schools, roads, police: not socialism.
This just in...little known people are little known. But don't let that get in the way of a good sports bashing on Slashdot. You'll be modded up to +5 in no time.
Once again we see Trump Derangement Syndrome in action. A completely unrelated topic, and someone just has to rush in and change the conversation to Trump. It happens so often at Slashdot and is frequently modded up to +5, sadly.
It is indeed most often the case that government control of anything makes it suck worse. Here, the private sector is so awful that the government alternative is actually better. We should also point out that this is local government that is close to its citizens, federal government is isolated in DC and considers the rest of the nation as deplorable.
What!! Negative. Socialism is not government services. Socialism is government control of the means of production. End of story. That's literally what it is.
Guess what, if you leave people to their own devices they will be lazy, turn in work late or incomplete, fool around on company time and generally waste your money. Sounds like you had a career of high achievement while surrounded by high consciousness people. Most lower level jobs are full of low consciousness people who hate work and will happily cheat you.
Of course it's not socialism. Socialism is government control of the means of production. Anyone tells you anything else, he's lying.
I think you replied to the wrong comment.
Bringing children into high carbon emitting countries is so bad. This is why it's so important to keep people in their home countries where they have tiny carbon footprints instead of allowing mass immigration into high carbon countries like America and EU. Remember, Bernie Sanders told Vice in an interview that massive immigration is a Koch brothers plan.
Serve the people? You mean the deplorables? Why would we want the government to serve them? Deport the deplorables. Get new immigrants in.
If you're toting the latest phone, you're going to have it out all the time. People will see it. We all know what it costs. It shouts to the world, "I HAVE ENOUGH INCOME TO AFFORD THIS OVERPRICED DONGLE!" It's the same as the peacock's useless tail. Companies have noticed that status is important and people will happily pay to have it. No different from leaving your keys with the BMW logo out on the table for everyone to see while you eat at a restaurant.
I believe gay married couples should be able to own guns to protect their marijuana plants. Tyranny?
Our goal in defeating Hillary was to remove the left's hand from our throat, not to put our hand around blue peoples' collective windpipe. We don't care how they live their lives, but leftists care very much how we live ours. Their goal is to lock both hands around our throat and squeeze until we submit to leftist tyranny or die.
We know where the leftists want it to end, with us silenced and subservient forever, toiling to pay taxes for them to redistribute to their clients as they pick at, poke at and torment us. You look at the things we stand for and all of them are about lifting the yoke off of us - cutting taxes, slashing regulations, guaranteeing the Second Amendment, protecting our religious liberty, and safeguarding us from terrorists and illegals. But everything leftists want, everything Hillary ran on, is about clamping the yoke ever tighter around our necks - raising taxes, issuing more regulations, disarming us, limiting our religious freedom, and putting us at risk from terrorists and alien criminals. The whole leftist platform is about putting us down and keeping us down.
Why do I get the idea that the word "harm" actually means "political ideas I disagree with and believe should be censored"? (reads essay: keywords, Trump, TEH ROOSHINS, Nazis) Yup. Pretty much this.
How did the Left go from protesting NAFTA to loving it the moment Trump was elected? Do you all really have memories that short? Seattle *burned* over NAFTA.
--Jimmy Dore, formerly of The Young Turks
Right-wing party line, eh? Know what else is the right-wing party line? Here's a 2015 exchange between Ezra Klein and Bernie Sanders that is highly relevant:
Ezra Klein ...
You said being a democratic socialist means a more international view. I think if you take global poverty that seriously, it leads you to conclusions that in the US are considered out of political bounds. Things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders. About sharply increasing
Bernie Sanders
Open borders? No, that's a Koch brothers proposal.
Ezra Klein
Really?
Bernie Sanders ...
Of course. That's a right-wing proposal, which says essentially there is no United States.
Ezra Klein ...
But it would make
Bernie Sanders ...
Excuse me
Ezra Klein
It would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn't it?
Bernie Sanders
It would make everybody in America poorer â"you're doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don't think there's any country in the world that believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation in my view to do everything we can to help poor people. What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.
You know what youth unemployment is in the United States of America today? If you're a white high school graduate, it's 33 percent, Hispanic 36 percent, African American 51 percent. You think we should open the borders and bring in a lot of low-wage workers, or do you think maybe we should try to get jobs for those kids?
I think from a moral responsibility we've got to work with the rest of the industrialized world to address the problems of international poverty, but you don't do that by making people in this country even poorer.
Ezra Klein
Then what are the responsibilities that we have? Someone who is poor by US standards is quite well off by, say, Malaysian standards, so if the calculation goes so easily to the benefit of the person in the US, how do we think about that responsibility?
We have a nation-state structure. I agree on that. But philosophically, the question is how do you weight it? How do you think about what the foreign aid budget should be? How do you think about poverty abroad?
Bernie Sanders
I do weigh it. As a United States senator in Vermont, my first obligation is to make certain kids in my state and kids all over this country have the ability to go to college, which is why I am supporting tuition-free public colleges and universities.
https://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9014491/bernie-sanders-vox-conversation
Oh, we can do that already. It's just that it would cost 5x more and take 5x longer. People don't want good software, they want fast software that's cheap.
Degenerate? Stain? So quickly you use the language of the Nazis to describe people you don't like.
I can't wait until Obama gets hauled in front of the Hague to face the same Nuremberg Principles of International Law Nazi leaders were tried under.
Trump derangement syndrome in action. A completely unrelated topic, and a sufferer just *has* to jump in and change the topic to Trump. Now we just wait for the +5 Insightful moderation instead of the more appropriate -1 Off-topic, and the circle jerk will be complete.