The United States Government has extensively studied the concept of second American Civil War (along the assumption that it will be left versus right. HMM. I WONDER WHY THEY MIGHT *POSSIBLY* DO THAT.)
Their conclusion is as follows: They don't have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning. The moment civil war is declared, the government loses. No scenario or outcome ends in their success. Period. It's just a matter of how long it takes.
That's because America has been guaranteeing their security for free for 75 years. What has long enabled that free world to exist is the post-WWII American security over watch which allowed countries of all sizes to escape fear. The Americans outlawed war among the participating members of the international system, and for the first time in world history imposed security upon the global commons so that anyone could purchase any resource from anywhere as well as export any product (most notably to the open, ravenous U.S. market).
And we get precisely zero thanks for this, and vile mistreatment. I haven't heard a kind word for years and years and years. Americans on holiday will lie and say they're Canadian just to avoid being verbally abused.
President Trump really isn't establishment. He is an outsider to both national and Washington politics. He doesn't represent the interests of the traditional political establishment and when his two terms are up will go back to civilian life, likely never venturing into politics again. He isn't a life long, career politician or bureaucrat.
More than fifty Republican "national security" "elites" ha-ve joined several top Republican office-holders, a good number of typically Republican newspaper editorial boards, and the "liberal" New York Times' editors in proclaiming Trump too stupid, sexist, juvenile, racist, volatile, ignorant, and vicious to be trusted with the keys to the White House.
Not a single solitary Fortune 100 chief executive endorsed Trump or donated to his campaign.
Sure you were trying to downplay third world thievery. It's the whole point of using whataboutism in the first place. "Don't you Americans dare to think that you might be better than third world shitholes!" is not exactly an uncommon thought among your tribe these days. In fact, it's very common to say that we Americans are worse than third world shitholes and you'd rather have their people as immigrants than us. Sad that you hate your own people so much, but that's where we are.
You didn't actually make an argument. You just used the logical fallacy known as Guilt by Association. Serious question: did you know this when you wrote your comment and are hence deliberately using a fallacy, or are you genuinely ignorant of what logical fallacies are? In the first case; how do you call yourself educated, and in the second case; how do you call yourself educated?
Whataboutism is a propaganda technique first used by the Soviet Union, in its dealings with the Western world.[1] When Cold War criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[2][3] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[4] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
I love how that's as far as you go back, and don't bother to question why a Buddhist monk - a Buddhist! - would go so far as to call for violence. Just came out of nowhere, right?
As a backgrounder, the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army staged a series of concerted attacks on the Burmese army. Unwilling to tolerate another Moslem jihad, the Rohinyas have been expelled to Bangla, where live some of those funding and leading ARSA. Saudi Arabia is too far away to dump them.
The number of corpses hasn't been that overwhelming. The Karens, Kachins, and Shans have been similarly suppressed by the ethnic Burmans occasionally. I realize that being dead is overwhelming to the person departing this Vale of Tears. I also realize that jihad has a habit of sprouting where local Moslem majorities (or near so) coexist next to non-Moslems. We can probably take the Philippines as a case study. You can also chart the decline of the Christian population in Paleostine, and then ask the Yazdis and the Zoroastrians of Iraq for details.
Brought it on themselves? No, it's not like that at all. The US system subsidizes the rest of the world, just like it does for everything else. The only losers are the American people. What's not to like?
The US healthcare system pays for the advances that are used by the rest of the world, for greatly reduced cost. You should be proud to pay so much so that so many other hostile countries that despise you can benefit. Besides, the well-off in America have great health insurance, the only people who suffer are the deplorables. I thought everyone hated them and wished them harm?
Any policy which has a disparate impact on marginalized communities is racist. Calling blacks stupid and saying that they hate all stupid people equally is a common tactic used by racists. It needs to be called out wherever it appears.
Why did Diamond and Silk get censored, anyway? Nobody ever explained that, least of all Facebook. They just said they were "unsafe to the community". The outspoken sisters were were provided with no reason why their videos were labeled as unsafe.
It was. Then, powerful corporations created centralized services and everyone flocked to them, trading freedom for security. When you had personal home pages and search engines, everyone was equal. When you have Google's SJWs penalizing conservative sites back to page 153 of search results and promoting far left sites to page 1, it's a different story.
The problem with youtube, google, facebook, twitter, reddit... we took this open platform of the internet where anyone could do anything and we gave control over our behavior to a few big players because their products were slick and had a lot of cash invested in them. We centralized... and in centralizing we gave control over this free wheeling space of the internet to a handful of companies.
And now we're seeing the problem with that. The same problem we had before with the handful of media companies that provided our TV, Newspapers, Radio, etc...The freedom is gone if you centralize.
We have to decentralize. Put the power in so many hands that no one would even dream they could stop anything. We can get started with Bitchute.com, a decentralized video sharing service. Start uploading your videos there and sharing, instead of youtube. Or do it together with youtube. Either way, you can't be censored there.
You one of those crazy coincidence theorists? I mean, I thought it was an outrageous lie that the Democrats rigged their primaries to prevent Bernie Sanders from winning. Turns out, it was true. I thought it was crazy that the media was running stories past the Democrats for approval before publication. That was true too.
Because I have become a hack I will send u the whole section that pertains to u
Please don't share or tell anyone I did this
Tell me if I fucked up anything
-- Glenn Thrush, senior editor of Politico https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36329
Person B: and frankly microaggressions and people being obtuse cut the deepest. and this is DAILY.
Person M [an editor on the masthead]: Hey all, a lot of smart thoughts here and just wanted you to know I am following along. Definitely worth more discussion.
So yeah, this stuff happens and it happens a lot. The school shooting thing with Hogg was definitely coordinated behind the scenes. There are apps like Signal that allow secure communications, we will never see leaked emails again.
"many of these ads did not violate our content policies. That means that for most of them, if they had been run by authentic individuals, anywhere, they could have remained on the platform."
Shouldn't you stop foreigners from meddling in US social issues?
The right to speak out on global issues that cross borders is an important principle. Organizations such as UNICEF, Oxfam or religious organizations depend on the ability to communicate - and advertise - their views in a wide range of countries. While we may not always agree with the positions of those who would speak on issues here, we believe in their right to do so - just as we believe in the right of Americans to express opinions on issues in other countries.
- the ads were non-political in nature, and didn't feature or favour a political candidate
- 56% of the ads were run AFTER the 2016 US federal election
- 25% of the ads were never displayed to anyone due to Facebook's algorithms not finding them relevant to trending interests
So, after a year of investigations and debunked conspiracy / false claim after debunked conspiracy / false claim, the strongest argument for alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US federal election is $100K of non-political or partisan Facebook ads - more than half of which ran after the election, and a quarter of which never ran at all. That's telling.
I mean, six months ago there weren't these constant drumbeats of anti-facebook stories. Now they're everywhere. Is this tied to the idea that Zuckerberg wants to run for President? The well is being poisoned so he won't pose a threat? After all, he's an outsider with no political experience. Trump was a total outsider, Sanders was a Democrat outsider, and look at all the dirty tricks that were played against them. Personally, I think insiders are the problem as they run our system for the benefit of themselves, not us. Plus, it would be very interesting to have Zuckerberg as America's first Jewish president.
Half of all people are less intelligent than average. You're saying you don't want to read their opinions? Not only is that racist, but it's ugly classism as well. They have just as much a right to representation as anyone.
This is why illegal immigrants are so destructive. They're willing to work for less than minimum wage, and employers are free to abuse them. It's so wrong. If we have a worker shortage and we need Mexicans to fill the gap, then we need a guest worker program like other countries have. Apply in Mexico City, get a 1 year permit, come here and work legally, and when done go back home. Lots of places are like that. America gets the taxes, Mexico gets the remittances, workers get protected by the law. It's win all the way around.
It's still helpful, though. If you can characterize people (falsely) as Nazis or fascists, that helps to delegitimize their ideas in the eyes of the public. If a little white lie can help to permanently rid the world of right-wingism, then it's worth it. Charles Murray writes about the supposed explosion of Fascists in Europe. He says, "When it comes to anti-fascism in most of Western Europe, there would appear for now to be a supply-and-demand problem: the demand for fascists vastly outstrips the supply. The further fascism receded into history and the fewer visible fascists there were on display, the more self-proclaimed anti-fascists needed fascism to retain any semblance of political virtue or purpose." Thus we have to create fascists, because there aren't enough of them around to drive needed change.
I thought we hated religion? That science and religion were mortal enemies? When did this stop?
Hell, religious followers stone people to death for adultery. Why are you sticking up for them? Baffled here. You should be hurling vile abuse at the religious.
"Conservatives are fascists!" - A person that does not know what fascists are. Or, perhaps even more prevalent, a person that does not know what conservatives are. Capitalism and Fascism are completely incompatible. Fascism is totalitarian and only cares about industry in so far that it serves the state - it will therefore never allow free innovation to meet public demand which is the cornerstone of Capitalism. There would be no equivalent of McDonald's, SpaceX, porn sites or surplus of bad airplane novels in a fascist state. You're just another troll, narcissist or blowhard whose arguments are fatally compromised by bad faith, petulance, intellectual laziness and blatant bigotry.
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The United States Government has extensively studied the concept of second American Civil War (along the assumption that it will be left versus right. HMM. I WONDER WHY THEY MIGHT *POSSIBLY* DO THAT.)
Their conclusion is as follows: They don't have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning. The moment civil war is declared, the government loses. No scenario or outcome ends in their success. Period. It's just a matter of how long it takes.
http://monsterhunternation.com/2015/06/23/an-opinion-on-gun-control-repost/
That's because America has been guaranteeing their security for free for 75 years. What has long enabled that free world to exist is the post-WWII American security over watch which allowed countries of all sizes to escape fear. The Americans outlawed war among the participating members of the international system, and for the first time in world history imposed security upon the global commons so that anyone could purchase any resource from anywhere as well as export any product (most notably to the open, ravenous U.S. market).
And we get precisely zero thanks for this, and vile mistreatment. I haven't heard a kind word for years and years and years. Americans on holiday will lie and say they're Canadian just to avoid being verbally abused.
President Trump really isn't establishment. He is an outsider to both national and Washington politics. He doesn't represent the interests of the traditional political establishment and when his two terms are up will go back to civilian life, likely never venturing into politics again. He isn't a life long, career politician or bureaucrat.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/14/the-ruling-classs-hatred-of-trump-is-different-than-yours/
Not a single solitary Fortune 100 chief executive endorsed Trump or donated to his campaign.
"The election of Donald Trump was an assault on the federal bureaucracy"
Remember when Sheryl Sandberg, the COO of Facebook conspired with the DNC to win the 2016 election? Wikileaks remembers.
https://i.redd.it/0iuspeqozzm01.jpg
Sure you were trying to downplay third world thievery. It's the whole point of using whataboutism in the first place. "Don't you Americans dare to think that you might be better than third world shitholes!" is not exactly an uncommon thought among your tribe these days. In fact, it's very common to say that we Americans are worse than third world shitholes and you'd rather have their people as immigrants than us. Sad that you hate your own people so much, but that's where we are.
You didn't actually make an argument. You just used the logical fallacy known as Guilt by Association. Serious question: did you know this when you wrote your comment and are hence deliberately using a fallacy, or are you genuinely ignorant of what logical fallacies are? In the first case; how do you call yourself educated, and in the second case; how do you call yourself educated?
Unlikely, as with SJW enforcement built in from the ground up, it's going to end up banning most users and will be a far left echo chamber.
The Second Amendment is there to defend the First. If they fall, then the Fourth and the Fifth fall shortly thereafter. And then the dark times.
Whataboutism is a propaganda technique first used by the Soviet Union, in its dealings with the Western world.[1] When Cold War criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[2][3] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[4] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
I love how that's as far as you go back, and don't bother to question why a Buddhist monk - a Buddhist! - would go so far as to call for violence. Just came out of nowhere, right?
As a backgrounder, the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army staged a series of concerted attacks on the Burmese army. Unwilling to tolerate another Moslem jihad, the Rohinyas have been expelled to Bangla, where live some of those funding and leading ARSA. Saudi Arabia is too far away to dump them.
The number of corpses hasn't been that overwhelming. The Karens, Kachins, and Shans have been similarly suppressed by the ethnic Burmans occasionally. I realize that being dead is overwhelming to the person departing this Vale of Tears. I also realize that jihad has a habit of sprouting where local Moslem majorities (or near so) coexist next to non-Moslems. We can probably take the Philippines as a case study. You can also chart the decline of the Christian population in Paleostine, and then ask the Yazdis and the Zoroastrians of Iraq for details.
Brought it on themselves? No, it's not like that at all. The US system subsidizes the rest of the world, just like it does for everything else. The only losers are the American people. What's not to like?
The US healthcare system pays for the advances that are used by the rest of the world, for greatly reduced cost. You should be proud to pay so much so that so many other hostile countries that despise you can benefit. Besides, the well-off in America have great health insurance, the only people who suffer are the deplorables. I thought everyone hated them and wished them harm?
The Trump campaign didn't use Cambridge Analytica data. They used RNC data, which was more accurate.
Any policy which has a disparate impact on marginalized communities is racist. Calling blacks stupid and saying that they hate all stupid people equally is a common tactic used by racists. It needs to be called out wherever it appears.
How would it be bad to replace white people with brown immigrants? The whites are racist as hell. "Look, to be totally honest, if things are so bad as you say with the white working class, don't you want to get new Americans in?" This is a pretty mainstream view among Establishment types and their allies. You don't agree?
Why did Diamond and Silk get censored, anyway? Nobody ever explained that, least of all Facebook. They just said they were "unsafe to the community". The outspoken sisters were were provided with no reason why their videos were labeled as unsafe.
It was. Then, powerful corporations created centralized services and everyone flocked to them, trading freedom for security. When you had personal home pages and search engines, everyone was equal. When you have Google's SJWs penalizing conservative sites back to page 153 of search results and promoting far left sites to page 1, it's a different story.
The problem with youtube, google, facebook, twitter, reddit... we took this open platform of the internet where anyone could do anything and we gave control over our behavior to a few big players because their products were slick and had a lot of cash invested in them. We centralized... and in centralizing we gave control over this free wheeling space of the internet to a handful of companies.
And now we're seeing the problem with that. The same problem we had before with the handful of media companies that provided our TV, Newspapers, Radio, etc...The freedom is gone if you centralize.
We have to decentralize. Put the power in so many hands that no one would even dream they could stop anything. We can get started with Bitchute.com, a decentralized video sharing service. Start uploading your videos there and sharing, instead of youtube. Or do it together with youtube. Either way, you can't be censored there.
You one of those crazy coincidence theorists? I mean, I thought it was an outrageous lie that the Democrats rigged their primaries to prevent Bernie Sanders from winning. Turns out, it was true. I thought it was crazy that the media was running stories past the Democrats for approval before publication. That was true too.
"We heard loudly and clearly yesterday from Bernie supporters that the process was rigged, and it was. And you've got to be honest about it. That's why we need a chair who is transparent."
-- former Secretary of Labor Tom Perez, February 8, 2017
http://observer.com/2017/02/dnc-chair-candidate-tom-perez-admits-democratic-primaries-rigged/
Because I have become a hack I will send u the whole section that pertains to u
Please don't share or tell anyone I did this
Tell me if I fucked up anything
-- Glenn Thrush, senior editor of Politico
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36329
Here's a bunch of New York Times employees talking behind the scenes.
Person B: and frankly microaggressions and people being obtuse cut the deepest. and this is DAILY.
Person M [an editor on the masthead]: Hey all, a lot of smart thoughts here and just wanted you to know I am following along. Definitely worth more discussion.
So yeah, this stuff happens and it happens a lot. The school shooting thing with Hogg was definitely coordinated behind the scenes. There are apps like Signal that allow secure communications, we will never see leaked emails again.
So, after a year of investigations and debunked conspiracy / false claim after debunked conspiracy / false claim, the strongest argument for alleged Russian interference in the 2016 US federal election is $100K of non-political or partisan Facebook ads - more than half of which ran after the election, and a quarter of which never ran at all. That's telling.
I mean, six months ago there weren't these constant drumbeats of anti-facebook stories. Now they're everywhere. Is this tied to the idea that Zuckerberg wants to run for President? The well is being poisoned so he won't pose a threat? After all, he's an outsider with no political experience. Trump was a total outsider, Sanders was a Democrat outsider, and look at all the dirty tricks that were played against them. Personally, I think insiders are the problem as they run our system for the benefit of themselves, not us. Plus, it would be very interesting to have Zuckerberg as America's first Jewish president.
Half of all people are less intelligent than average. You're saying you don't want to read their opinions? Not only is that racist, but it's ugly classism as well. They have just as much a right to representation as anyone.
Why not just increase it to $25? Or $35?
This is why illegal immigrants are so destructive. They're willing to work for less than minimum wage, and employers are free to abuse them. It's so wrong. If we have a worker shortage and we need Mexicans to fill the gap, then we need a guest worker program like other countries have. Apply in Mexico City, get a 1 year permit, come here and work legally, and when done go back home. Lots of places are like that. America gets the taxes, Mexico gets the remittances, workers get protected by the law. It's win all the way around.
It's still helpful, though. If you can characterize people (falsely) as Nazis or fascists, that helps to delegitimize their ideas in the eyes of the public. If a little white lie can help to permanently rid the world of right-wingism, then it's worth it. Charles Murray writes about the supposed explosion of Fascists in Europe. He says, "When it comes to anti-fascism in most of Western Europe, there would appear for now to be a supply-and-demand problem: the demand for fascists vastly outstrips the supply. The further fascism receded into history and the fewer visible fascists there were on display, the more self-proclaimed anti-fascists needed fascism to retain any semblance of political virtue or purpose." Thus we have to create fascists, because there aren't enough of them around to drive needed change.
I thought we hated religion? That science and religion were mortal enemies? When did this stop?
Hell, religious followers stone people to death for adultery. Why are you sticking up for them? Baffled here. You should be hurling vile abuse at the religious.
I'm not a fascist. I feel you don't know what fascism is. Here's a quick primer on fascism, extensively footnoted. It's a fascinating read, highly informative, and you can follow up by reading the books described in the references. Only anti-intellectuals refuse to learn.
"Conservatives are fascists!" - A person that does not know what fascists are. Or, perhaps even more prevalent, a person that does not know what conservatives are. Capitalism and Fascism are completely incompatible. Fascism is totalitarian and only cares about industry in so far that it serves the state - it will therefore never allow free innovation to meet public demand which is the cornerstone of Capitalism. There would be no equivalent of McDonald's, SpaceX, porn sites or surplus of bad airplane novels in a fascist state. You're just another troll, narcissist or blowhard whose arguments are fatally compromised by bad faith, petulance, intellectual laziness and blatant bigotry.