1) Who wants a computer system where MS can dial in and pull up all your info? Is the world not calling for security and privacy?
2) Why HP? I want an AMD64 based system.
3) This sounds like MS is going to give HP a sort of OS that will only run on certain hardware. No longer will the consumer decide what hardware is the best. And what if I want a Dell ? Do I have to pay more for the hardware just to run MS?
Nobody asked for this.
HEY BILL How about giving the customer what it is asking for: Secure and reliable software. Privacy. A 64bit OS that runs on a low cost solution like AMD so I can play more powerful games.
Who the hell asked for a proprietary hardware software computer ? If I want that I will get a MAC.
Oh well at least Linux64 runs on the new AMD 64, perhaps this is when MS will lose most of its market, while it is busy working on crap no body even wants.
This article is the very reason why I argue against using spanning tree. I have seen many similar outages. It does not help when the very thing that is there to help prevent the system form going down can cause it to go down.
I always opt to have an identical switch that I can fail key systems over to manually.
Spanning tree caused them to be down for days. Why not build a switched network with no loops then if a switch fails it only affects the systems on that switch. And if you have the budget there will be a second exact switch powered up right under it in the rack. You unplug all the patches and plug them into the other switch. Down time = way less then days. The network becomes far simpler ergo much simpler to maintain and fix.
Just my 2 Cents.
What about as a server ?
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Is MAC OS X slow as a server as well?
I was thinking of getting one in at work to test it out as a web server, but I will not bother if it is slower than Linux.
It will be a really long time before we really know if it really works or if it is just a bunch of bull kaka marketing to sell more Microsoft.
Microsoft always makes the same mistakes:
1)Market a new idea that sounds great but is actually nothing but a marketing gimmick.
2)Sell it to everyone with a smile on their face thinking no one will be smart enough to know it is just snake oil.
3)Deny it is snake oil even after thousands of people are hurt by it.
4)Fail to see how hurting their own customers hurts Microsoft.
If Microsoft wants my trust back it needs to do full discloser. Full discloser is best practice, it is like labels on food. If you know what's in it and you still get hurt then it is your own fault. But Microsoft says you do not need to know what's in it, just trust us, buy this it will never hurt you.
I would not touch any security based system that is not fully disclosed, how could I suggest to my superiors that they should use this new technology, it would imply to them that I felt certain it would protect their data when in fact I would not know. And I am certain the end user Licence prevents any liability on the part of Microsoft and its partners.
So if you missed it I sum this new thing up like this:
If it's not open source it's snake oil marketing. Why hide it if it works ?
1) MS lies to the government about how to fight terror ergo helps terror ergo is terror.
It is more than certain that Open Source is more secure than anything MS ever produced even MS or at least the intelligent (coward) programs that work there should realize it. So if through lies and purchasing lies to sway the government into using MS it is helping the terrorists.
DC is full of decision makers who are not computer experts and are counting on getting good truthful information in order to make the best decisions on how to defeat terrorism, so if Bill is using his money to feed lies to them then he is helping the bad guys, he is a bad guy.
Bill does not care about what is best for the people but what is best for his pocket book. How does he sleep at night? How much money is enough?
Either the people who put this report together for MS (DC) are completely stupid and should not be allowed to speak about such things or are completely aware of the lie they are trying to spread in which case they are evil and or cowards.
The way MS does business and spreads fear about others is very much the same as the way the Nazi party did business and spread fear about others.
The big last step the Nazis took in early days once they first gained office (they still had to contend with the communist party that still had allot of seats in the house) was to burn down parliament and blame the communists, thus instilling a law banning all communists from parliament.
If the parallel fits then soon MS will higher hackers to bring down the big Linux system in Germany once it is built and then say: See Linux is evil we must ban it from all government systems at once.
P.S. Ever notice that when MS was everyone's friend and BG was a hero he was always dressed in jeans and a sweatshirt. It seems MS started down hill exactly at the same time Bill started wearing suits and ties. It's the tailor made $5000 dollar suits that make people turn into Nazis. Its not to late Bill you can still rejoin the light side, start wearing jeans again and announce the new MS distribution will be built on the BSD kernel.
What the heck is Bill thinking ?
Should he not wait and see what the court is going to do to MS befor they make a bunch of plans.
What if they rule that.NET and XP must be put on hold for 2 years until so that the companies that weree damaged as a result of MS's missuse of its Monopoly.
Or what if they rule that I.E. must not be packaged with XP. Would that not mean that.NET standards could be out the window in a years time ?
Bill must be snorten the good stuff to maintane a ego like that when his company is about to be beatin into submission by the courts.
And when the MS police come knocking give them all your MS CDs and tell them no thaks I don't need any.:)
That's the penalty to MS for being so SS about it.
Red Hat ver 7.1 with KDE, is just as EZ to use as WIN 98.
Don't let the MS gang scare us into believing that different means harder and less functional.
I have 2 children at home and I use Linux, they have no more trouble learning Linux than MS software.
I use K office a free office that comes with KDE, which is also free with Red Hat Linux. It is all free.
So if you are saying that I have to spend Money on MS office because the school wasted my tax money on it, so that my children can do their homework. Than I say that is a crime.
It is bad enough that MS uses its monopoly to destroy choice, it is even wors when people think that the whole world needs to bow to them and use their software because all the other stuff is to hard and that's not what " I use at Home." So lets get the schools to use MS (Which they of course have to pay for) than of course everyone who has children in school will have to buy MS software in order to comply with what the government school system has chosen, Much to the delight of the guy who is scared that they might have chosen something scary and different that he may not understand regardless of the cost.
If all the libraries and schools use free software than that is the standard that will need to be adopted in the home. Not vice versa. And it will be ok because everyone can afford free software at home.
The biggest name in word processing used to be Word Perfect. Why? Well because it was free for educational institutions, this meant that a whole generation of people came out of school knowing how to use Word Perfect. So when they hit the real world and the boss asked, " What Word Processor should we use. " everyone said Word Perfect, because that's the one I know I learned it in high school and used it in college.
Now MS is not giving away its software to the education system. But Linux is free and was built for the purpose of educating students in the Unix OS.
It is criminal for a school system to purchase MS products when Linux is out there and available for nothing.
Red Hat or another Linux provider should step up to the plate and lobby the government, promise help in migrating the schools to Linux. If all the schools where using Linux this year than all the work places will have it in no time. With in 5 years Linux will be in every workplace in North America.
Will IBM be dropping AIX in favour of concentrating on Linux?
Will IBM and the other vendors ever be in a position to refuse to sell their product with Microsoft software OEM? (That would sure change the face of the desktop in a big hurry) Who is in control? The hardware vendors or Microsoft?
VMS is all but dead. Good riddance.
I for one am glad to see the end of the Alpha and would like to see the end of True 64 as well as all the different proprietary UNIX systems. This way all the venders could focus on Linux the OS by the people for the people.
Linux is the future of all platforms.
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1) Who wants a computer system where MS can dial in and pull up all your info? Is the world not calling for security and privacy?
2) Why HP? I want an AMD64 based system.
3) This sounds like MS is going to give HP a sort of OS that will only run on certain hardware. No longer will the consumer decide what hardware is the best. And what if I want a Dell ? Do I have to pay more for the hardware just to run MS?
Nobody asked for this.
HEY BILL
How about giving the customer what it is asking for:
Secure and reliable software.
Privacy.
A 64bit OS that runs on a low cost solution like AMD so I can play more powerful games.
Who the hell asked for a proprietary hardware software computer ?
If I want that I will get a MAC.
Oh well at least Linux64 runs on the new AMD 64, perhaps this is when MS will lose most of its market, while it is busy working on crap no body even wants.
AC is way better and the develpoers listen to the players.
http://acvault.ign.com/
This article is the very reason why I argue against using spanning tree. I have seen many similar outages. It does not help when the very thing that is there to help prevent the system form going down can cause it to go down.
I always opt to have an identical switch that I can fail key systems over to manually.
Spanning tree caused them to be down for days.
Why not build a switched network with no loops then if a switch fails it only affects the systems on that switch. And if you have the budget there will be a second exact switch powered up right under it in the rack. You unplug all the patches and plug them into the other switch. Down time = way less then days. The network becomes far simpler ergo much simpler to maintain and fix.
Just my 2 Cents.
Is MAC OS X slow as a server as well?
I was thinking of getting one in at work to test it out as a web server, but I will not bother if it is slower than Linux.
Because it is not open source...
It will be a really long time before we really know if it really works or if it is just a bunch of bull kaka marketing to sell more Microsoft.
Microsoft always makes the same mistakes:
1)Market a new idea that sounds great but is actually nothing but a marketing gimmick.
2)Sell it to everyone with a smile on their face thinking no one will be smart enough to know it is just snake oil.
3)Deny it is snake oil even after thousands of people are hurt by it.
4)Fail to see how hurting their own customers hurts Microsoft.
If Microsoft wants my trust back it needs to do full discloser. Full discloser is best practice, it is like labels on food. If you know what's in it and you still get hurt then it is your own fault. But Microsoft says you do not need to know what's in it, just trust us, buy this it will never hurt you.
I would not touch any security based system that is not fully disclosed, how could I suggest to my superiors that they should use this new technology, it would imply to them that I felt certain it would protect their data when in fact I would not know. And I am certain the end user Licence prevents any liability on the part of Microsoft and its partners.
So if you missed it I sum this new thing up like this:
If it's not open source it's snake oil marketing.
Why hide it if it works ?
Ya I just switched to Mozilla.
WHat do ya think of that.
http://www.opera.com/
hehehehehehehehehehehehe
LOL this story after reading that crap about Open Source helping terror.
Who needs a patch? just download OPRA and bam fixed.
1) MS lies to the government about how to fight terror ergo helps terror ergo is terror.
It is more than certain that Open Source is more secure than anything MS ever produced even MS or at least the intelligent (coward) programs that work there should realize it. So if through lies and purchasing lies to sway the government into using MS it is helping the terrorists.
DC is full of decision makers who are not computer experts and are counting on getting good truthful information in order to make the best decisions on how to defeat terrorism, so if Bill is using his money to feed lies to them then he is helping the bad guys, he is a bad guy.
Bill does not care about what is best for the people but what is best for his pocket book. How does he sleep at night? How much money is enough?
Either the people who put this report together for MS (DC) are completely stupid and should not be allowed to speak about such things or are completely aware of the lie they are trying to spread in which case they are evil and or cowards.
hmmmm
The way MS does business and spreads fear about others is very much the same as the way the Nazi party did business and spread fear about others.
The big last step the Nazis took in early days once they first gained office (they still had to contend with the communist party that still had allot of seats in the house) was to burn down parliament and blame the communists, thus instilling a law banning all communists from parliament.
If the parallel fits then soon MS will higher hackers to bring down the big Linux system in Germany once it is built and then say: See Linux is evil we must ban it from all government systems at once.
P.S. Ever notice that when MS was everyone's friend and BG was a hero he was always dressed in jeans and a sweatshirt. It seems MS started down hill exactly at the same time Bill started wearing suits and ties. It's the tailor made $5000 dollar suits that make people turn into Nazis. Its not to late Bill you can still rejoin the light side, start wearing jeans again and announce the new MS distribution will be built on the BSD kernel.
What the heck is Bill thinking ? .NET and XP must be put on hold for 2 years until so that the companies that weree damaged as a result of MS's missuse of its Monopoly.
.NET standards could be out the window in a years time ?
Should he not wait and see what the court is going to do to MS befor they make a bunch of plans.
What if they rule that
Or what if they rule that I.E. must not be packaged with XP. Would that not mean that
Bill must be snorten the good stuff to maintane a ego like that when his company is about to be beatin into submission by the courts.
NT
And when the MS police come knocking give them all your MS CDs and tell them no thaks I don't need any. :)
That's the penalty to MS for being so SS about it.
Red Hat ver 7.1 with KDE, is just as EZ to use as WIN 98. Don't let the MS gang scare us into believing that different means harder and less functional.
I have 2 children at home and I use Linux, they have no more trouble learning Linux than MS software. I use K office a free office that comes with KDE, which is also free with Red Hat Linux. It is all free. So if you are saying that I have to spend Money on MS office because the school wasted my tax money on it, so that my children can do their homework. Than I say that is a crime. It is bad enough that MS uses its monopoly to destroy choice, it is even wors when people think that the whole world needs to bow to them and use their software because all the other stuff is to hard and that's not what " I use at Home." So lets get the schools to use MS (Which they of course have to pay for) than of course everyone who has children in school will have to buy MS software in order to comply with what the government school system has chosen, Much to the delight of the guy who is scared that they might have chosen something scary and different that he may not understand regardless of the cost. If all the libraries and schools use free software than that is the standard that will need to be adopted in the home. Not vice versa. And it will be ok because everyone can afford free software at home.
The biggest name in word processing used to be Word Perfect. Why? Well because it was free for educational institutions, this meant that a whole generation of people came out of school knowing how to use Word Perfect. So when they hit the real world and the boss asked, " What Word Processor should we use. " everyone said Word Perfect, because that's the one I know I learned it in high school and used it in college. Now MS is not giving away its software to the education system. But Linux is free and was built for the purpose of educating students in the Unix OS. It is criminal for a school system to purchase MS products when Linux is out there and available for nothing. Red Hat or another Linux provider should step up to the plate and lobby the government, promise help in migrating the schools to Linux. If all the schools where using Linux this year than all the work places will have it in no time. With in 5 years Linux will be in every workplace in North America.
Will IBM be dropping AIX in favour of concentrating on Linux? Will IBM and the other vendors ever be in a position to refuse to sell their product with Microsoft software OEM? (That would sure change the face of the desktop in a big hurry) Who is in control? The hardware vendors or Microsoft?
VMS is all but dead. Good riddance. I for one am glad to see the end of the Alpha and would like to see the end of True 64 as well as all the different proprietary UNIX systems. This way all the venders could focus on Linux the OS by the people for the people. Linux is the future of all platforms.