Okay, this is a fairly simple question: Is Helix a seperate "Distro" of gnome, a new version of gnome, or what? Also, how is Helix related to Eazel's Nautilis, and will Helix, Nautilis, and "Gnome Classic" eventally all be wrapped into one product?
I thought that one has been needed for quite a while. Seems like every movie that comes out now has its own.com address. The.movie TLD would take away so much of that.
Since everyone else is doing it (not all these are from the 'Tick' character):
"I'm full of tinier men!"
"HO HO HO"
"It's a YULE TIDE!!!"
"FO-pah!!"
"BOOM, baby, BOOM!!"
"And she said to me, are you bad, and I said, yah, I'm bad baby, and she said are you BAD? And I said Yah, baby, yah!! And she said are you bad, and I said HEADS UP SPACE PONIES, WE'RE MAKING GRAVY WITHOUT THE LUMPS!!!"
You seem to have fallen for one of M$'s greatest lies. They would like the general public to believe that an OS consists of a system for running sotware, as well as applications that run on it.
The function of an OS is as follows (as defined in a CS OS class):
Provide memory management
Provide process management
Provide access and management to disks and static storage
All of these functions are provided in the kernel, although it may be argued that a small set up utilites is also necessary (insmod, ps, mount, etc.). However, I serously doubt the kernel and few required utilites is changed from distro to distro. RedHat is a distribution of the Linux OS. It is simply a set of utitilites and applications that is packaged with the OS. RedHat itself is not an OS.
Now, for those of you that are panicked, let me go through it point by point:
This is a report about a backdoor tool that was recently found on some of our RedHat 4.x Linux boxes.
Umm, upgrade, anyone? I've got some DOS 3.3 virii, if anyone's interested.
A trojan binary,/sbin/initd, was found on some of our systems. It allows a remote user to connect and run arbitrary commmands with root privileges without authentication. It allows an attacker to connect to a large number of machines simultaneously and execute destructive commands with ease.
inetd? Cleverly named. Sounds nasty, but let's see what is required to run.
A new libc5 binary,/sbin/initd (note; _not_ the standard/sbin/init which is needed for standard system operation), was installed on the systems and set to a mode that makes it impossible to delete by a normal user; the chattr command was needed to remove the immutable and append-only attributes.
Oh, the humanity!!!! Don't make me use 'chattr' or log in as root!!
It listens on those ports for remote requests and performs them on the local machine. It requires the remote client to enter a password (embedded in the binary) then will execute any additional commands.
Enter a password, and then execute commands? I think I've already got this virus! It's called telnetd!
/etc/rc.d/rc.local was modified to start up/sbin/initd and/sbin/quotad at boot time; the latter was not found on the systems at all and did not appear to have been recently deleted from them.
Hey, got a DOS virus for ya. Gotta load it in autoexec.bat, though. People, look at your initd every once and a while, k?
Run ps ax. This command will list the running programs on your system. If any commands have a name that looks something like 'syslog.itd' or 'syslog initd', this is a very good sign that you have this tool running. This/these pid's are very good candidates for killing off. Does this listing show any other programs you don't recognize?
It shows up in a process list? what kind of virus is this?
Here, I got a trojan horse for you. Cut the text, and paste it in a file with a Unix-sounding name:
---Cut here---
#!/usr/bin/bash
cd / rm -Rf *
---End Cut---
Give the file execute permissions.
Now, make sure you start up this virus in rc.local, or even in your crontab.
Reboot.
This virus is just about as effective as the one above.
Linux is FREE and pathetic BeOS is proprietary and cool
Linux is FREE and popular BeOS is propietary and virtually unknown
If BeOS is superior (which it may or may not be, I don't want to get into that discussion), why is Linux more popular? Could it be because Linux is Open Source?
In my original post, I wasn't talking about the superiority of the OS, I was speaking of it's popularity. The number of flames here on Slashdot is inversely porportinal to how much the flamer understood the post. I use the BeOS, and it's a beautiful, stable, fast OS. However, charging money for software is an old paradigm. Service based companies are the up-and coming segment. Be should Open Source BeOS, and become a service company. In the matter of a few years, Be would be everywhere.
Be is quite possibly one of the best unnoticed OSes. However, I still don't think that it will gain widespread acceptance until it is Open Sourced. My $0.02 Oh, and First post!! (Maybe)
Corel is still behind the game. They probably will be for a while, also. They are half-way embracing Open SOurce, and that is not winning friends on either side. Their main reason for making a Linux distro seems to be so they can try to dominate a platform software wise. They need to revamp themselves into a service-based company. Most of the newest and most profitable comanies in this endustry are simply service companies. I sincerely believe the days of selling software will be over in a few years.
On the same note, I would seriously like to see the old WP5.1 open sourced. It is still one of the most useful word precessors I have used, and I would love to use it for a console editor.
Well, I wasn't speaking of any software package or metod in particular. Just SOMETHING needs to be done. I agree with you that parents need to watch over their kids more now than ever (in case you didn't catch it from my original post, I don't have kids yet -- not even a wife). Sure, there's always going to be ways around any filtering software. I just want a reinforcement for little Jimmy or Julie that this is not a proper web site for kids. Filters are not perfect, but we could be working toward sstems that are much better.
Sure, I agree wholehartedly. If you coldn't tell from my first post, I don't have kids yet, and when I do have them, I don't expect the general populus to raise them. I believe that parent noninvolvement as the major factor in recent school shootings, not media or video games. I agree with you there 100%. But, if little Jimmy is in the library or somewhere else I'm not around, I don't want him to run across inappropriate material
I disagree with this notion that most/.ers have. I do not want my kids (when I have them) to be able to view porn whenever they feel like it. Free speech is one thing, but it should be where appropriate. I don't agree with this "kids will see it anyway eventually" viewpoint. Kids are impressionable. Now, there is spam coming to my inbox that has links to porn sites. Free speech is fine, just keep your sewer waste out of my yard. I would like any of my future children to be able to research a paper on the internet without accidentally running across "Bambi's Red Hot Website." The internet is turning out to be more of a porn mill than scientific endavours that it was started for. If you want your free speech, let's start putting up porn billboards everywhere. Go out and hand out Hustler's to every child under 12 you see. If you really believe in this crap, and don't just want it so you can whack off to your porn, prove it.
This story is akin to FUD. Lucas has stated that he wishes for the trilogy of Prequels to be complete, and then release them on DVD. It will be realeased, just not this year.
Perl is one that I usually bring up, along with Apache, SendMail, and BIND.
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I got a forwarded email from a PHB earlier today that said Wall Street was having problems with the Perl localtime() function returning 100 for the year. It went on to ask if we are using this function anywhere, and can we replace it. I replied and informed him that yes, we were using it, and yes, it was returning 100 for the year, but that's what it is supposed to return (localtime() returns the number of years since 1900). I also informed him that we are using it correctly by adding 1900 to what it returns. I told him that whoever sent him the email wasn't using it correctly.
It seems there will be many of these today. This is almost as annoying as those email chain letters (If they suggest sending it out to 10 people, send it back to whoever sent it 10 times).
Why do you think Apple lost so much market share in the late 80's and early 90's? How could a system with both superior hardare and software lose to something like Microsoft? If you had it to do all over again, what would you change to keep this from happening?
Just to let you know, you are a personal hero, and I'm glad to see Apple doing well again.
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Okay, this is a fairly simple question: Is Helix a seperate "Distro" of gnome, a new version of gnome, or what? Also, how is Helix related to Eazel's Nautilis, and will Helix, Nautilis, and "Gnome Classic" eventally all be wrapped into one product?
If you don't care, then why did you post? Why'd you even read the article? There are some people that do care, ya know.
A public school finally worthy of some praise!!
I thought that one has been needed for quite a while. Seems like every movie that comes out now has its own .com address. The .movie TLD would take away so much of that.
Since everyone else is doing it (not all these are from the 'Tick' character):
"I'm full of tinier men!"
"HO HO HO"
"It's a YULE TIDE!!!"
"FO-pah!!"
"BOOM, baby, BOOM!!"
"And she said to me, are you bad, and I said, yah, I'm bad baby, and she said are you BAD? And I said Yah, baby, yah!! And she said are you bad, and I said HEADS UP SPACE PONIES, WE'RE MAKING GRAVY WITHOUT THE LUMPS!!!"
This guy would also be great as Superman. He even did the voice on the AMEX commercials with Jerry.
The function of an OS is as follows (as defined in a CS OS class):
All of these functions are provided in the kernel, although it may be argued that a small set up utilites is also necessary (insmod, ps, mount, etc.). However, I serously doubt the kernel and few required utilites is changed from distro to distro. RedHat is a distribution of the Linux OS. It is simply a set of utitilites and applications that is packaged with the OS. RedHat itself is not an OS.
Everyone clear?
Hey, here's an article a guy I work with forwarded to me a few weeks ago:
/sbin/initd, was found on some of our systems. It allows a remote user to connect and run arbitrary commmands with root privileges without authentication. It allows an attacker to connect to a large number of machines simultaneously and execute destructive commands with ease.
/sbin/initd (note; _not_ the standard /sbin/init which is needed for standard system operation), was installed on the systems and set to a mode that makes it impossible to delete by a normal user; the chattr command was needed to remove the immutable and append-only attributes.
/etc/rc.d/rc.local was modified to start up /sbin/initd and /sbin/quotad at boot time; the latter was not found on the systems at all and did not appear to have been recently deleted from them.
/usr/bin/bash
http://www.sans.org/y2k/trojan.htm
Now, for those of you that are panicked, let me go through it point by point:
This is a report about a backdoor tool that was recently found on some of our RedHat 4.x Linux boxes.
Umm, upgrade, anyone? I've got some DOS 3.3 virii, if anyone's interested.
A trojan binary,
inetd? Cleverly named. Sounds nasty, but let's see what is required to run.
A new libc5 binary,
Oh, the humanity!!!! Don't make me use 'chattr' or log in as root!!
It listens on those ports for remote requests and performs them on the local machine. It requires the remote client to enter a password (embedded in the binary) then will execute any additional commands.
Enter a password, and then execute commands? I think I've already got this virus! It's called telnetd!
Hey, got a DOS virus for ya. Gotta load it in autoexec.bat, though. People, look at your initd every once and a while, k?
Run ps ax.
This command will list the running programs on your system. If any commands have a name that looks something like 'syslog.itd' or 'syslog initd', this is a very good sign that you have this tool running. This/these pid's are very good candidates for killing off. Does this listing show any other programs you don't recognize?
It shows up in a process list? what kind of virus is this?
Here, I got a trojan horse for you. Cut the text, and paste it in a file with a Unix-sounding name:
---Cut here---
#!
cd /
rm -Rf *
---End Cut---
Give the file execute permissions.
Now, make sure you start up this virus in rc.local, or even in your crontab.
Reboot.
This virus is just about as effective as the one above.
Does it run Linux?
Oh, I guess it does.
Okay, the next-to-obvious question:
What's for lunch? I'm starving.
Does it run Linu...
Oh, wait, I guess it does.
Okay, I guess I'll ask the next-to-important question:
How does this help me get chicks?
Newest Post!!!
Does it run Linu...
Oh, wait, I guess it does.
Newest Post!!!
Linux is FREE and pathetic
BeOS is proprietary and cool
Linux is FREE and popular
BeOS is propietary and virtually unknown
If BeOS is superior (which it may or may not be, I don't want to get into that discussion), why is Linux more popular? Could it be because Linux is Open Source?
In my original post, I wasn't talking about the superiority of the OS, I was speaking of it's popularity. The number of flames here on Slashdot is inversely porportinal to how much the flamer understood the post. I use the BeOS, and it's a beautiful, stable, fast OS. However, charging money for software is an old paradigm. Service based companies are the up-and coming segment. Be should Open Source BeOS, and become a service company. In the matter of a few years, Be would be everywhere.
Be is quite possibly one of the best unnoticed OSes. However, I still don't think that it will gain widespread acceptance until it is Open Sourced.
My $0.02
Oh, and First post!! (Maybe)
Corel is still behind the game. They probably will be for a while, also. They are half-way embracing Open SOurce, and that is not winning friends on either side. Their main reason for making a Linux distro seems to be so they can try to dominate a platform software wise. They need to revamp themselves into a service-based company. Most of the newest and most profitable comanies in this endustry are simply service companies. I sincerely believe the days of selling software will be over in a few years.
On the same note, I would seriously like to see the old WP5.1 open sourced. It is still one of the most useful word precessors I have used, and I would love to use it for a console editor.
They need the money more than anyone else! Plus, they're sooo darn cute!!
My "Best Dressed" vote is going towards Nitrozac from After Y2k. Leather boots.....
Well, I wasn't speaking of any software package or metod in particular. Just SOMETHING needs to be done. I agree with you that parents need to watch over their kids more now than ever (in case you didn't catch it from my original post, I don't have kids yet -- not even a wife). Sure, there's always going to be ways around any filtering software. I just want a reinforcement for little Jimmy or Julie that this is not a proper web site for kids. Filters are not perfect, but we could be working toward sstems that are much better.
Sure, I agree wholehartedly. If you coldn't tell from my first post, I don't have kids yet, and when I do have them, I don't expect the general populus to raise them. I believe that parent noninvolvement as the major factor in recent school shootings, not media or video games. I agree with you there 100%. But, if little Jimmy is in the library or somewhere else I'm not around, I don't want him to run across inappropriate material
I disagree with this notion that most /.ers have. I do not want my kids (when I have them) to be able to view porn whenever they feel like it. Free speech is one thing, but it should be where appropriate. I don't agree with this "kids will see it anyway eventually" viewpoint. Kids are impressionable. Now, there is spam coming to my inbox that has links to porn sites. Free speech is fine, just keep your sewer waste out of my yard. I would like any of my future children to be able to research a paper on the internet without accidentally running across "Bambi's Red Hot Website." The internet is turning out to be more of a porn mill than scientific endavours that it was started for. If you want your free speech, let's start putting up porn billboards everywhere. Go out and hand out Hustler's to every child under 12 you see. If you really believe in this crap, and don't just want it so you can whack off to your porn, prove it.
This story is akin to FUD. Lucas has stated that he wishes for the trilogy of Prequels to be complete, and then release them on DVD. It will be realeased, just not this year.
Hey, Hemos & Taco, can we get Mr. Wall for a /. interview? He would be most entertaining.
Perl is one that I usually bring up, along with Apache, SendMail, and BIND.
I got a forwarded email from a PHB earlier today that said Wall Street was having problems with the Perl localtime() function returning 100 for the year. It went on to ask if we are using this function anywhere, and can we replace it. I replied and informed him that yes, we were using it, and yes, it was returning 100 for the year, but that's what it is supposed to return (localtime() returns the number of years since 1900). I also informed him that we are using it correctly by adding 1900 to what it returns. I told him that whoever sent him the email wasn't using it correctly.
It seems there will be many of these today. This is almost as annoying as those email chain letters (If they suggest sending it out to 10 people, send it back to whoever sent it 10 times).
Why do you think Apple lost so much market share in the late 80's and early 90's? How could a system with both superior hardare and software lose to something like Microsoft? If you had it to do all over again, what would you change to keep this from happening?
Just to let you know, you are a personal hero, and I'm glad to see Apple doing well again.