well if we are talking what normal people will use, it's about even. Win10 monitors the hell out of you, of course google does as well. linux is about the only privacy matters option.
And macOS/iOS. They have realized that Privacy is a marketable product distinction, and really are quite serious about it.
No spyware in AOSP. But when people say Android they are referring to about two dozen forks of it. And it's really tough to generalize about such a diverse set.
All I know is that Android dev tools are free, and I can post my shitty apps on the Plat Store. Unlike Apple that enforces arbitrary and ever changing standards and keeps taking my stuff down. Maybe if I were a professional company instead of a hobbyist the App store would be more manageable but for hobbyist hackers, Android is the easier platform to target.
P.S. I don't think you're sorry at all.
Perhaps your Apps keep getting taken down precisely because the ARE Shitty (Your words).
And the Dev Tools ARE free for iOS, too, if you have a Mac.
Typing on a flat surface is something that certainly takes some getting used to.
I wonder up to what point are we slaves of custom. I mean, if we had moved directly from handwriting to touchscreens, without the middle steps of the typewriter and keyboard, what would the input methods be like?
Perhaps a type of shorthand, written with a stylus. Or circles of different sizes depending on the frequency of each letter. Or mixes of finger movements and finger positions...
I feel that we are constrained by the keyboard. That we have adapted to it, more than it to us. I suppose that nowadays more words are written in flat screens than in any other system. It's time to end the dictatorship of the keyboard.
Exactly!
Ever since I was a kid, I envisioned such a device. There are a bunch of applications for a device like that, and no, a laptop with a conventional touchscreen is not the same thing.
Boy, the anti-Apple bias on Slashdot is disgusting.
Slashdot isn't anti-Apple, it has a perfectly level playingfield for the entire technology sector. It just looks like anti-Apple because one specific fanboy sucks up so much positive Apple bias that the rest of Slashdot has maintain balance in the force.
I happen to be pretty close to the average that TFA (yes, I even skimmed it!) cites. And that adds up to just 408 days over the course of the average working lifetime.
Now, it you want some REAL shocking numbers:
Assuming their number of 45 years working, and 40 hours work a week (yes, coders and IT need to adjust...). And also assuming 50 working-weeks per year.
That's an eye-popping 4.79 years spent working.
And as far as SLEEP...
Assuming the recommended 8 hours per day, and an average lifespan of 80 years, that's 26.6 (!!!) Years spent unconscious!!!!
So, add those up, and you have an average of 1 + 4.79 + 26.6 = 32.46 YEARS of just... Nothing.
Supporting an application on various distros of Linux? At most, some environment variables, like PATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
The rest is pure bs. Unless, say, you're M$* Maybe it's just they can't charge as much.
* True story, from Macaholic friends: when the Mac went from, I think it was Moto chips to PPC, Word for Mac broke. That turned out to be because it was such a dog that M$ had committed a Cardinal Sin: they were not making operation system calls, they were talking directly to the hardware.
And Apple specifically warned Devs. against that clear back in the Apple// ProDOS days.
For a company to support Linux, they have to consider supporting: Multiple file systems, multiple distributions, multiple desktops, multiple init systems, multiple kernels. If you're an open source developer, focusing on a single distribution, that's not a problem. If you're a company that produces a product (and you stake your living on that product), those multiple points of entry do become a problem. Let's consider Adobe (and Photoshop). If Adobe wanted to port their industry-leading product to Linux, how do they do that? Do they spend the time developing support for ext4, btrfs, Ubuntu, Fedora, GNOME, Mate, KDE, systemd? You see how that might look from the eyes of any given company?
This is why all you arrested-development FOSSie children, who can't even agree on, well, ANYTHING, will NEVER see the MYTHICAL:"Year Of The Linux Desktop".
Chromebooks actually remind me a bit of Macbooks. You have an "app store" but not a proper official repository which is the primary reason I always seem to be overwriting osx and installing Linux. I could just be biased against osx but to me in a lot of ways... Mac is to Unix as Chromebooks are to Linux.
Macs have the Mac App Store; but you are in NO way limited to installing Applications from that source. macOS is a Certified Unix. Something that NO Linux will EVER be.
As for Chrome, it is nothing more than a data-collection app DISGUISED as a weak-ass "OS".
Microsoft- logs all sorts of information about you and invades your privacy. Google- logs all sorts of information about you and invades your privacy. Apple- logs all sorts of information about you and invades your privacy.
But there's a BIG difference: Microsoft: Does ALL sorts of trickery to keep you from "opting out" of Privacy-Stealing and "Telemetry".
Google: Logs your entire life, EVEN WHEN YOU TELL IT NOT TO!
Apple: Only DISSEMINATES Differentially-Anonymized Data, states CLEARLY what Data they collect, and ALLOWS YOU TO OPT-OUT.
Slashdot Mirror
Apple has an American design team, but outsources all production and is incredibly expensive....
It be nice to see more American production, and maybe some mid grade stuff at a lower price point....
Samsung's flagship phones are every bit as expensive as Apple's flagship phone.
Now where's your Hate against Samsung?
You DO know Apple phones are made in China, right?
Name 1 that is manufactured in the USA.
...Will solve the "Who Arrived/Who's Talking?" questions. At least for meetings of up to 32 participants (which covers most practical meetings!)
That is, once it is actually WORKING... ;-)
You forgot THAT feature...
well if we are talking what normal people will use, it's about even. Win10 monitors the hell out of you, of course google does as well. linux is about the only privacy matters option.
And macOS/iOS. They have realized that Privacy is a marketable product distinction, and really are quite serious about it.
No spyware in AOSP. But when people say Android they are referring to about two dozen forks of it. And it's really tough to generalize about such a diverse set.
All I know is that Android dev tools are free, and I can post my shitty apps on the Plat Store. Unlike Apple that enforces arbitrary and ever changing standards and keeps taking my stuff down. Maybe if I were a professional company instead of a hobbyist the App store would be more manageable but for hobbyist hackers, Android is the easier platform to target.
P.S. I don't think you're sorry at all.
Perhaps your Apps keep getting taken down precisely because the ARE Shitty (Your words).
And the Dev Tools ARE free for iOS, too, if you have a Mac.
A laptop with a keyboard worse than the MacBook Pro.
Impressive.
Actually, no, they didn't:
https://www.slashdot.org/story...
Typing on a flat surface is something that certainly takes some getting used to.
I wonder up to what point are we slaves of custom. I mean, if we had moved directly from handwriting to touchscreens, without the middle steps of the typewriter and keyboard, what would the input methods be like?
Perhaps a type of shorthand, written with a stylus. Or circles of different sizes depending on the frequency of each letter. Or mixes of finger movements and finger positions...
I feel that we are constrained by the keyboard. That we have adapted to it, more than it to us. I suppose that nowadays more words are written in flat screens than in any other system. It's time to end the dictatorship of the keyboard.
Exactly!
Ever since I was a kid, I envisioned such a device. There are a bunch of applications for a device like that, and no, a laptop with a conventional touchscreen is not the same thing.
Courage will be when apple copies this idea. And claims it innovative!
Too late, Coward!
Apple already filed a Patent Application for this about a month ago. There was even a Slashdot story on it:
https://www.slashdot.org/story...
I wish he were still in charge of Apple.
I'd imagine so does he...
But thefalsetimmycook is still in the lead.
It's TheFakeTimCook.
If you're going to bash me, at least have the decency to get my name right! ;-)
TBH they are both pretty shitty platforms.
Sorry, you're dead wrong.
Compared with iOS, Android is a sad, sad Dumpster Fire excuse for a wannabe OS. ...And Spyware besides!
Boy, the anti-Apple bias on Slashdot is disgusting.
Slashdot isn't anti-Apple, it has a perfectly level playingfield for the entire technology sector. It just looks like anti-Apple because one specific fanboy sucks up so much positive Apple bias that the rest of Slashdot has maintain balance in the force.
Riiiiight.
"Perfectly level playingfield..." (shakes head)
Tell me another story, Daddy...
For once, I agree with you.
He's telling the truth.
Thank you. Seriously.
I happen to be pretty close to the average that TFA (yes, I even skimmed it!) cites. And that adds up to just 408 days over the course of the average working lifetime.
Now, it you want some REAL shocking numbers:
Assuming their number of 45 years working, and 40 hours work a week (yes, coders and IT need to adjust...). And also assuming 50 working-weeks per year.
That's an eye-popping 4.79 years spent working.
And as far as SLEEP...
Assuming the recommended 8 hours per day, and an average lifespan of 80 years, that's 26.6 (!!!) Years spent unconscious!!!!
So, add those up, and you have an average of 1 + 4.79 + 26.6 = 32.46 YEARS of just... Nothing.
Doesn't that even deserve a MENTION?
Boy, the anti-Apple bias on Slashdot is disgusting.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom...
And this is why Linux (or Unix in general) will never reach the consumer saturation level that the Mac and PC have (yes, I know OSX is Linux)
macOS is NOT, repeat NOT, Linux.
macOS is a CERTIFIED UNIX; something NO wannabee-Unix Linux will EVER be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
These same arguments have been trotted out every so often over the past 20 or so years about Linux.
That's because they are STILL TRUE!!!
Supporting an application on various distros of Linux? At most, some environment variables, like PATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
The rest is pure bs. Unless, say, you're M$* Maybe it's just they can't charge as much.
* True story, from Macaholic friends: when the Mac went from, I think it was Moto chips to PPC, Word for Mac broke. That turned out to be because it was such a dog that M$ had committed a Cardinal Sin: they were not making operation system calls, they were talking directly to the hardware.
And Apple specifically warned Devs. against that clear back in the Apple // ProDOS days.
For a company to support Linux, they have to consider supporting: Multiple file systems, multiple distributions, multiple desktops, multiple init systems, multiple kernels. If you're an open source developer, focusing on a single distribution, that's not a problem. If you're a company that produces a product (and you stake your living on that product), those multiple points of entry do become a problem. Let's consider Adobe (and Photoshop). If Adobe wanted to port their industry-leading product to Linux, how do they do that? Do they spend the time developing support for ext4, btrfs, Ubuntu, Fedora, GNOME, Mate, KDE, systemd? You see how that might look from the eyes of any given company?
This is why all you arrested-development FOSSie children, who can't even agree on, well, ANYTHING, will NEVER see the MYTHICAL :"Year Of The Linux Desktop".
Never.
Chromebooks actually remind me a bit of Macbooks. You have an "app store" but not a proper official repository which is the primary reason I always seem to be overwriting osx and installing Linux. I could just be biased against osx but to me in a lot of ways... Mac is to Unix as Chromebooks are to Linux.
Macs have the Mac App Store; but you are in NO way limited to installing Applications from that source.
macOS is a Certified Unix. Something that NO Linux will EVER be.
As for Chrome, it is nothing more than a data-collection app DISGUISED as a weak-ass "OS".
They're nothing alike. Chromebooks will only replace a Mac or PC in the same way that you might be able to replace them with an iPad.
Exactly.
Microsoft- logs all sorts of information about you and invades your privacy.
Google- logs all sorts of information about you and invades your privacy.
Apple- logs all sorts of information about you and invades your privacy.
But there's a BIG difference:
Microsoft: Does ALL sorts of trickery to keep you from "opting out" of Privacy-Stealing and "Telemetry".
Google: Logs your entire life, EVEN WHEN YOU TELL IT NOT TO!
Apple: Only DISSEMINATES Differentially-Anonymized Data, states CLEARLY what Data they collect, and ALLOWS YOU TO OPT-OUT.
https://www.apple.com/legal/pr...
I don't want them getting spyware
So, you bought them a computer which comes with spyware preinstalled.
Exactly!
But the guy is already on a freakin' Mac, thus he should be using macOS - why are you bringing up Windows and Linux?
He also is stating one of the reasons he is considering a Chromebook (shudder) is 2FA.
macOS has supported Two Factor Authentication for some time now (since at least macOS El Capitan, now almost THREE major OS versions ago!) :
https://support.apple.com/kb/P...