Well, here's the thing: a large portion of the population uses their phone's headphone jack often and its waterproofing rarely, if ever. If a simple market study were done, it would likely reveal that people prefer the headphone jack, if they really have to choose.
I'm frankly personally on the fence regarding the 3.5mm jack removal. I can see both sides of the argument.
On the one hand, the 3.5mm jack has been around for decades relatively unchanged. OTOH, it is often an aggravating, intermittent POS. For example, my car's "Entertainment Center" doesn't have BT; but it does have a 3.5mm jack, like my iPhone 6 Plus. But the jack on the car-side is SO intermittent, it might as well not exist; and I have nearly had an accident running off the road trying to twist the damn plug in the socket to "clean" the jack while driving! (yeah, yeah, I know...). So now, I simply don't even try to use it.
I do NOT, however, believe it is some evil Apple conspiracy to force people to buy AirPods, though. I really do think they are trying to improve water resistance. Plus, I think that sometimes Apple personnel seemingly live in a happy-happy, joy-joy world, and once they have decided on a "better way", then they just go for it whole-hog, like with USB-C.
Arrogant? Yeah, maybe a little. But disruptive changes often come off that way.
And I'd rather have to reconsider and rethink old memes and longstanding habits once in awhile, than be that "Get off my lawn!" luddite...
"For best results with applications like 3D games, set a display that's attached to the eGPU as the primary system display" https://support.apple.com/en-u...
Figured. But you wouldn't need an external monitor for GPU-accelerated applications, like photoshop or final cut.
From what I understand, it will "loop back" video to the Mac's internal display, as well.
Because my work is done on a mac, so I have a macbook. It dual boots windows, and has a GTX 1080 in an EGPU. Works great for regular games and VR. It's a nice looking setup too. Only one wire into the macbook.
Blackmagic makes hardware for video editing. I guess Apple is trying to keep FCP X relevant even while they hobble their actual hardware. This seems to be proof that the Mac Pro really is going to get killed off in favor of a laptop/all-in-one with an eGPU.
Or that eGPU is part of the "Modular" approach for the new Mac Pro hinted-at by Uncle Craig.
Lenovo P series. Three models. Introduced around the end of 2014. About 3.5 years ago. Three major revisions (meaning entirely new designs) for each model, and multiple hardware upgrades in-between - probably close to 6-7 changes over the last 3.5 years (they seem to upgrade every 6 months). Oh, and you can install more than 32 GB of RAM, and get a real 17" screen, too...
If those were more than simple CPU/GPU-type Upgrades every 6 months, then, after the first couple of revs., that points more to an unstable design, not "innovation".
And I've lost 0 of them to water. Including a Palm Pixi Plus that went for an unplanned swim and had no water resistance rating. Even working outdoors in the Ohio rain (I haven't always been a developer), long before phones had water resistance ratings, I've never had one water damaged. I'm not thoroughly convinced it's all that necessary.
I thought I had lost my first iPhone (a 4s), when a ridiculously-well-aimed raindrop (just the one, mind you!) zeroed in on my then top-mounted headphone jack. The iPhone absolutely flipped-out for about 20 minutes; until I could get enough water out of the jack to stop it from short-circuiting what I believe was the "switch" detection for headsets.
Water never got INTO the phone; but it still made it essentially non-functional until I got things dried-out.
Users are locked in, and breaking that lock is extremely difficult.
Nonsense.
People switch heir Mobile platforms in BOTH directions ALL the time.
Both as in only two. The lock is all the apps on the 2 major app stores. That being said, there is really a third one. Amazon is doing pretty well. Amazon did it by being sourcecode/binary compatible with android. It is much easier to get developers on your platform if they don't have to write a whole new app to support it. You need to either go the route of Microsoft and create a cross platform development system or make your new OS really really easy for developers to port their existing apps to. Most developers are not going to have a problem supporting a third OS even with very few users as long as it is still cost effective.
There WERE at LEAST FOUR simultaneous platforms even a year or so ago. Two of them just blew it.
But you are conflating Platforms with App Stores. So, your post is meaningless.
Pretty sad when incremental hardware updates is big news. I guess it shows how infrequent Apple upgrades hardware on Mac's. PC makers upgrade model much faster without much fanfare.
How infrequent Macs Are upgraded? Are you high, or just stupid?
We'll just concentrate on the past few upgrades of the MacBook Pro.
November 2016: Significant upgrade of the MBP over the 2015 lineup.
June 2017: Processor upgrade. Keyboard upgrade.
July 2018: Processor Upgrade.
I would like to see all those "PC" mfgs. Who have upgraded significantly faster.
You *could* create your own mobile os relatively easily... But you'd be fighting an uphill battle to displace an entrenched platform, as the existing platform has all the mindshare, marketing and third party support.
Microsoft with their billions couldn't make a dent in the mobile market with windows phone... Linux can't make a dent in the desktop market despite being free and having many technical advantages.
Users are locked in, and breaking that lock is extremely difficult.
Nonsense.
People switch heir Mobile platforms in BOTH directions ALL the time.
You should really try the "spouse" test before you post. After writing your post call your loved one over and have them read it out loud. If you both agree that the post furthers the conversation or educates the reader then you go ahead and post it.
Yep. I can't count the times I had to help fellow programmers with a problem, and it turned out to be a simple boundary condition, or something like having typed == when they meant != and never noticed when they were staring right at it.
I imagine it's like proofreading your own emails, letters, etc. Often, your mind reads what you intended to write rather than what you actually wrote.
I know there are several times I left the contraction off and every time I proofread it, I saw it there. And the difference can be critical. Is/isn't changes the entire meaning. The your/you're error can make you look dumb but not as fatal a mistake. "Your product is under warranty".
That's what I like to call the "Meddling Interloper" method of debugging. It's when a co-worker comes up behind you as you are furiously poring over some code and points their finger at your screen and says "Isn't there supposed to be a $CHARACTER there?"
This is the 100th time Apple has released a patch that screwed up certain models. They're incompetent. I see a pattern here. They're going to keep doing it! BUY A DIFFERENT BRAND, YOU IDIOTS!
While Android wisely avoids the problem by almost never having Updates at all...
Yeah, these recurrent yearly issues occur a couple months before the new iPhones are released. Coincidence of course.
They occur occasionally when a new OS Update comes out. Usually, they are just the result of Spotlight Re-Indexing, and the excessive drain stops after a few days. But sometimes not.
Seems like the computers that actually needed to do real world work like the ones in my drafting classes, were PC's.
You didn't reference whether you were talking about Apple//s or Macintoshes, both of which were in use in Education in the 1990s (the Apple// was sold until 1992, and there were STILL outcries from the Education market when they were discontinued). But I will assume you are talking about Macs.
Real work?
Matlab: First on Macs
Excel: First on Macs
GUI Microsoft Word: First on Macs
PowerPoint: First on Macs
Access: First on Macs (as Microsoft File)
Visual BASIC: First on Macs (as Microsoft BASIC for Macintosh)
Photoshop: First on Macs
Aldus PageMaker (now called Adobe InDesign): First on Macs
Aldus FreeHand: First on Macs
Adobe Illustrator: First on Macs
Adobe Acrobat: First on Macs (I believe)
Macromedia Dreamweaver: First on Macs
Human Genome Project: Exclusively done on Macs
And there are undoubtedly more; but that's the ones I can remember without ANY research.
Think there was any "real work" being done on those Applications? Or do you only consider that horrible PC CAD Application, AutoCAD (which was also released for the Mac in the 1990s), as being the arbiter of "Real Work"? BTW, AutoCAD WAS available for Macs until 1992 (last release for Macs was 12.0), and then again after 2010 (through the present). So, there.
And speaking of which, while you idiots were struggling with AutoCAD, we Mac users had VectorWorks (and before that, its 2D predecessor, the name of which escapes me), which did, and still does, whip ALL over AutoCAD.
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This. A million times this. I would rather have Putin himself be our president than her.
Careful what you wish for!
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Hillary Clinton lost to an incompetent businessman who had (and has) no idea of how to be President of the United States. She's that bad.
...or the Russians are that good.
Well, here's the thing: a large portion of the population uses their phone's headphone jack often and its waterproofing rarely, if ever. If a simple market study were done, it would likely reveal that people prefer the headphone jack, if they really have to choose.
I'm frankly personally on the fence regarding the 3.5mm jack removal. I can see both sides of the argument.
On the one hand, the 3.5mm jack has been around for decades relatively unchanged. OTOH, it is often an aggravating, intermittent POS. For example, my car's "Entertainment Center" doesn't have BT; but it does have a 3.5mm jack, like my iPhone 6 Plus. But the jack on the car-side is SO intermittent, it might as well not exist; and I have nearly had an accident running off the road trying to twist the damn plug in the socket to "clean" the jack while driving! (yeah, yeah, I know...). So now, I simply don't even try to use it.
I do NOT, however, believe it is some evil Apple conspiracy to force people to buy AirPods, though. I really do think they are trying to improve water resistance. Plus, I think that sometimes Apple personnel seemingly live in a happy-happy, joy-joy world, and once they have decided on a "better way", then they just go for it whole-hog, like with USB-C.
Arrogant? Yeah, maybe a little. But disruptive changes often come off that way.
And I'd rather have to reconsider and rethink old memes and longstanding habits once in awhile, than be that "Get off my lawn!" luddite...
Your car analogy is wrong since PCs doesn't only get "Fords" and macs "Bugattis."
It would be more like a museum or seller which only have some of the inventory.
I've admittedly never been good at analogies; don't know why, exactly.
But you obviously got the underlying idea. ;-)
"For best results with applications like 3D games, set a display that's attached to the eGPU as the primary system display"
https://support.apple.com/en-u...
Figured. But you wouldn't need an external monitor for GPU-accelerated applications, like photoshop or final cut.
From what I understand, it will "loop back" video to the Mac's internal display, as well.
Because my work is done on a mac, so I have a macbook. It dual boots windows, and has a GTX 1080 in an EGPU. Works great for regular games and VR. It's a nice looking setup too. Only one wire into the macbook.
There you go!
You're truly embracing the future of Macdom!!!
Many games, yes. Anywhere near as many as on Windows, absolutely not.
There are more Ford Focuses than Bugattis.
So what?
turn off 'smart' punctuation on your iThing, it doesn't make you seem any smarter.
But it does show-off the fact that Slashdot's web-coders are dumber.
Blackmagic makes hardware for video editing. I guess Apple is trying to keep FCP X relevant even while they hobble their actual hardware. This seems to be proof that the Mac Pro really is going to get killed off in favor of a laptop/all-in-one with an eGPU.
Or that eGPU is part of the "Modular" approach for the new Mac Pro hinted-at by Uncle Craig.
The MacBook Air hasn't been upgraded since march 2015*.
* the small CPU speed bump on the low-end model in june 2017 does NOT count as an upgrade. The internal name is still "MacBookAir7,2".
Did I mention the Air, the Mac Pro or the Mac mini?
No I did not.
Lenovo P series. Three models. Introduced around the end of 2014. About 3.5 years ago. Three major revisions (meaning entirely new designs) for each model, and multiple hardware upgrades in-between - probably close to 6-7 changes over the last 3.5 years (they seem to upgrade every 6 months). Oh, and you can install more than 32 GB of RAM, and get a real 17" screen, too...
If those were more than simple CPU/GPU-type Upgrades every 6 months, then, after the first couple of revs., that points more to an unstable design, not "innovation".
And I've lost 0 of them to water. Including a Palm Pixi Plus that went for an unplanned swim and had no water resistance rating. Even working outdoors in the Ohio rain (I haven't always been a developer), long before phones had water resistance ratings, I've never had one water damaged. I'm not thoroughly convinced it's all that necessary.
I thought I had lost my first iPhone (a 4s), when a ridiculously-well-aimed raindrop (just the one, mind you!) zeroed in on my then top-mounted headphone jack. The iPhone absolutely flipped-out for about 20 minutes; until I could get enough water out of the jack to stop it from short-circuiting what I believe was the "switch" detection for headsets.
Water never got INTO the phone; but it still made it essentially non-functional until I got things dried-out.
Users are locked in, and breaking that lock is extremely difficult.
Nonsense.
People switch heir Mobile platforms in BOTH directions ALL the time.
Both as in only two. The lock is all the apps on the 2 major app stores. That being said, there is really a third one. Amazon is doing pretty well. Amazon did it by being sourcecode/binary compatible with android. It is much easier to get developers on your platform if they don't have to write a whole new app to support it. You need to either go the route of Microsoft and create a cross platform development system or make your new OS really really easy for developers to port their existing apps to. Most developers are not going to have a problem supporting a third OS even with very few users as long as it is still cost effective.
There WERE at LEAST FOUR simultaneous platforms even a year or so ago. Two of them just blew it.
But you are conflating Platforms with App Stores. So, your post is meaningless.
Try again.
And waterproofing doesn't have to preclude a headphone jack. My last 5 phones have had IP68 or better ratings and a headphone jack.
They may have had IP68 RATINGS; but they probably didn't have IP68 PERFORMANCE. IP68 isn't that hard to attain; but it isn't all that useful, either.
Apple doesn't actually publish the IP rating, they just exceed everyone else that does.
Here is a test with the iPhone 7 vs. the Galaxy Note 7 in 35 feet of water.
https://bgr.com/2016/09/19/iph...
but they killed off the headphone jack in their phones so that they could go thinner
I keep hearing this, yet the current iPad models, which have headphone jacks, are thinner than the current iPhone models, which do not.
IPads don't have to be waterproof.
Pretty sad when incremental hardware updates is big news. I guess it shows how infrequent Apple upgrades hardware on Mac's. PC makers upgrade model much faster without much fanfare.
How infrequent Macs Are upgraded? Are you high, or just stupid?
We'll just concentrate on the past few upgrades of the MacBook Pro.
November 2016: Significant upgrade of the MBP over the 2015 lineup.
June 2017: Processor upgrade. Keyboard upgrade.
July 2018: Processor Upgrade.
I would like to see all those "PC" mfgs. Who have upgraded significantly faster.
How did protect-and-serve end up being us vs them?
Oh, you think there was a time when it wasn't?
How cute.
If you arent a criminal it doesn't affect you.
You forgot your Sarcasm tag.
What? Oh...
You *could* create your own mobile os relatively easily...
But you'd be fighting an uphill battle to displace an entrenched platform, as the existing platform has all the mindshare, marketing and third party support.
Microsoft with their billions couldn't make a dent in the mobile market with windows phone...
Linux can't make a dent in the desktop market despite being free and having many technical advantages.
Users are locked in, and breaking that lock is extremely difficult.
Nonsense.
People switch heir Mobile platforms in BOTH directions ALL the time.
"While Android wisely avoids the problem by almost never having Updates at all..."
Why on earth has this been modded funny?
Because there isn't a "Sad But True" Moderation-Tag?
You should really try the "spouse" test before you post. After writing your post call your loved one over and have them read it out loud. If you both agree that the post furthers the conversation or educates the reader then you go ahead and post it.
You should give it a try next time.
OMG!
Are you trying to kill the internets?!?!?
Yep. I can't count the times I had to help fellow programmers with a problem, and it turned out to be a simple boundary condition, or something like having typed == when they meant != and never noticed when they were staring right at it.
I imagine it's like proofreading your own emails, letters, etc. Often, your mind reads what you intended to write rather than what you actually wrote.
I know there are several times I left the contraction off and every time I proofread it, I saw it there. And the difference can be critical. Is/isn't changes the entire meaning. The your/you're error can make you look dumb but not as fatal a mistake. "Your product is under warranty".
That's what I like to call the "Meddling Interloper" method of debugging. It's when a co-worker comes up behind you as you are furiously poring over some code and points their finger at your screen and says "Isn't there supposed to be a $CHARACTER there?"
"D'oh!" You say...
This is the 100th time Apple has released a patch that screwed up certain models. They're incompetent. I see a pattern here. They're going to keep doing it! BUY A DIFFERENT BRAND, YOU IDIOTS!
While Android wisely avoids the problem by almost never having Updates at all...
Yeah, these recurrent yearly issues occur a couple months before the new iPhones are released. Coincidence of course.
They occur occasionally when a new OS Update comes out. Usually, they are just the result of Spotlight Re-Indexing, and the excessive drain stops after a few days. But sometimes not.
Seems like the computers that actually needed to do real world work like the ones in my drafting classes, were PC's.
You didn't reference whether you were talking about Apple //s or Macintoshes, both of which were in use in Education in the 1990s (the Apple // was sold until 1992, and there were STILL outcries from the Education market when they were discontinued). But I will assume you are talking about Macs.
Real work?
Matlab: First on Macs
Excel: First on Macs
GUI Microsoft Word: First on Macs
PowerPoint: First on Macs
Access: First on Macs (as Microsoft File)
Visual BASIC: First on Macs (as Microsoft BASIC for Macintosh)
Photoshop: First on Macs
Aldus PageMaker (now called Adobe InDesign): First on Macs
Aldus FreeHand: First on Macs
Adobe Illustrator: First on Macs
Adobe Acrobat: First on Macs (I believe)
Macromedia Dreamweaver: First on Macs
Human Genome Project: Exclusively done on Macs
And there are undoubtedly more; but that's the ones I can remember without ANY research.
Think there was any "real work" being done on those Applications? Or do you only consider that horrible PC CAD Application, AutoCAD (which was also released for the Mac in the 1990s), as being the arbiter of "Real Work"? BTW, AutoCAD WAS available for Macs until 1992 (last release for Macs was 12.0), and then again after 2010 (through the present). So, there.
And speaking of which, while you idiots were struggling with AutoCAD, we Mac users had VectorWorks (and before that, its 2D predecessor, the name of which escapes me), which did, and still does, whip ALL over AutoCAD.