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Is iOS 11.4 Draining Your iPhone's Battery? You're Not Alone (zdnet.com)
If you've noticed that the battery life on your iPhone is not what it used to be, it's likely that the problem isn't with your iPhone or some setting or app, but a bug in iOS 11.4. From a report: Apple's support forum has been blowing up with complaints from users that battery life has been seriously curtailed since installing iOS 11.4. The problems seems to be reasonably widespread and affects the iPhone line up across the board. I've seen this issue on the iPhones that I use. It seems to be accompanied by the device running unusually hot.
iOS 11.4 is draining my battery... and I don't even have an apple.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Apple's support forum has been blowing up with complaints from users that battery life has been seriously curtailed since installing iOS 11.4.
Not disputing what other people are finding but my wife's phone and mine both are unaffected by this problem so it obviously isn't every phone. I'm curious what the common thread might be. Is it with certain devices or apps or something else?
My wife has had iPhones for the last 8 years or so, and she has always had to keep charging them throughout the day and every time she gets in the car. I don't think she uses it any more than anyone else, she almost never actually makes a phone call, and she doesn't facebook all day (at least I don't think she does).
This is a minor fix 11.3 => 11.4, and yet that battery drain issue is back from the dead, again? Either Apple has some main dev team problem (which it has in a way), or maybe the new fw (os) install reset some settings, like "backup app refresh" set to true for some apps which would cause that issue.
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Hur Hur. It's funny because a lot of the customers I do tech support for who still own iPhones don't even know how to enter their Netflix password into their TV.
Can't wealthy people afford to charge their phone?
love is just extroverted narcissism
I usually don't have much trouble with iOS upgrades. Maybe a small drain the first day, and fine after that. I have had a big drain with 11.4. I've often gone under 10%, and once the phone even shutdown, compared to the 30-50% I had before.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
It's probably her "Tinder" app. Ask her about it tonight.
From what I recall reading on Slashdot, this issue is raised nearly every time there's an upgrade to iOS and the reason is that while the basic upgrade happens right away to ensure usability as quickly as possible, there's a ton of stuff that happens in the background for some time to come. It's the background activity that appears to shorten the battery usability. Once the background activity is done, back to normal, more-or-less.
Or so I've read. Personally, I don't own an Apple device of any sort so I can neither confirm nor dispute. Don't blame the messenger.
Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
Based on my own experience, iPhones are not born equal. Anyway I'd check the "background app refresh" settings and unset most of them...
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
"backup app refresh" set to true for most apps which would cause that issue - multiple phones means it's one or more apps that your wife is running
nothing to see here - move along
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The scare quotes should have been round "her".
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Look in settings under "Battery". It will tell you which apps are draining the battery the most.
If she has to charge the battery "Constantly" either one of her apps is misbehaving or the phone is very old and the battery is shafted.
All I want is a secure system where it's easy to do anything I want. Is that too much to ask ~~ Randall Munroe
Settings > Battery > she can see what is eating it. With it needing charged that often, though, it probably just needs the battery replaced.
Hour snowflake tiers may give you life, but you're ignorance gives us hope.
I haven't updated my iPhone 6 SE past 10.3.3 since I don't trust in their ability to not purposely or accidentally mess up
I like not having to re-charge for days (I use it only as a phone and sometimes as a GPS) -- games are played only on separate iPod-touches
I haven't updated my iPad 4 past version 7, though that might have to change soon as some websites like Ars Technica have a javascript "show comments" button that doesn't work with that 2012 version of Safari (I'm wondering what they did that makes a simple link not work in a 2012 browser)
and the problem is solved. I only have to charge my almost three year-old iPhone 6S Plus twice a week.
prease 2b lrning2engrish.
Didn't Apple announce a while back that successive software updates would hinder the battery life of the phones, especially on older models, to encourage people to upgrade?
Updates reindex your iphone after every update. that's the reason. I don't work for apple so I don't know exactly why
Ah ah ah, Ah ah ah, Ah ah ah,.
Battery saver is not allow on the app store as if competes with our iphone battery replacement at the apple store for only $79
My iPad was draining quickly, and Battery info showed many hours of time in use, even though I didn’t use it for all so many hours.
Fix for me was for was to reset network settings in iPad settings.
... because it turned on by default the GPS, Bluetooth, WiFi, and every other power draining feature? Screen brightness to max? Camera on?
wait, why is the camera on again, Siri?
Hur Hur. It's funny because a lot of the customers I do tech support for who still own iPhones don't even know how to enter the time on their VCRs and microwave ovens.
FTFY.
We see this same story after every iOS update and it turns out to be the update finishing or something else benign.
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Not only is the article incomplete, but does not offer ANY CONCRETE SOLUTION.
msmash WHAT KIND OF CRAP ARE YOU PROMOTING?
your killing this publication. Go home, go away, go back to the rock u came from, go choke on BEAU for a while..
Please stop killing this publication's reputation, at least let it slump away with some dignity intact.
This type of BS is representative of YOU and your colleges, Please some one stop her, get the dart gun out and put her out of OUR misery.
Just Dart her up with some horse tranquilizer or something and, put someone whom deserves the position in place..
I am trying hard to take the human aspect into account, as msmash is one, and as a human we all deserve some ammount of respect and attention..
But man, how can you keep eating your feet every time you try to step forward?
It's almost as though some rich guy bought the publication and left it to their son's or daughters to keep them busy, out of school, and off their parental backs "so to speak." But at what cost aside from the $ aspect..
Publishing an article with the summation of
"The bottom line is that if you've yet to upgrade to iOS 11.4, you might want to wait it out for a fix. If you have and it's killing your battery, then maybe try installing the latest iOS 11.4.1 update."
Is just plain ignorant..
I hope this comment does not fall on deaf ears, but unfortunately it probably will :( I would really like to see this publication last another 100 years..
Please people Share the bigger vision, see whats beyond instead of whats in front of you..
thanks,
Based on my own experience, iPhones are not born equal. Anyway I'd check the "background app refresh" settings and unset most of them...
I started doing this years ago, and have never had any battery issues. 95% of the apps on my phone should be doing nothing if I am not using them.
- Vincit qui patitur.
and (shame on me, I know) although I don't have empirical metrics, anecdotally my phone is definitely doing *some*thing because it's getting hot even when the screen is off and I'm not using it... got so bad it started dropping frames in a video the other day.
installed *.1 this morning, we'll see if this improves things.
In Soviet Russia jokes are formulaic and decidedly non-humorous.
since apple controls the hardware and software its what makes the user experience so fucking magical.
Couldn’t they just slow the phone down a bit so it doesn’t use as much battery power? This is a no-brainer.
Those damned homophones are the cause of all the problems in this country, I'm tellin' ya.
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
In Settings, disable "Douchebag Posting Mode".
That's like saying msmash can you pull BEAU OUT OF YOUR MOUTH FOR EVEN A SECOND TO PRODUCE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT?
Or to atleast slow down your flawed though process enough for you to catch the crap that falls from your mouth and fingers as displayed on here in various forms..
This is the 100th time Apple has released a patch that screwed up certain models. They're incompetent. I see a pattern here. They're going to keep doing it! BUY A DIFFERENT BRAND, YOU IDIOTS!
While Android wisely avoids the problem by almost never having Updates at all...
I don't use IPhones, but this same subject comes up after EVERY update.
It is reindexing all data on the phone for the new OS to use quicker. Kills battery for 1-4 days depending on how much data is on phone. Once complete battery drain will no longer happen.
Your phone probably didn't have a lot of files/photos to reindex.
Considering that Apple updates lower battery life and slow the CPU down in an attempt to get some of that battery back, I really don't see the problem with "lack of updates."
I don't want "new features" that make the phone worse, Apple-style. As long as they get security updates, and Android devices do, who cares if you're not running the absolute latest version of the OS? You know, besides Apple fanbois desperately looking for one thing Apple does "better" than Android.
What's a "VCR?"
Or maybe Hognoxious is making a joke about the guys wife being ugly.. Trigger much snowflake?
This is the 100th time Apple has released a patch that screwed up certain models. They're incompetent. I see a pattern here. They're going to keep doing it! BUY A DIFFERENT BRAND, YOU IDIOTS!
While Android wisely avoids the problem by almost never having Updates at all...
:D
I do get the joke... but at the same time not putting bigger and heavier software on unchanging hardware is the right decision.
Looks like you took your Jobs-fellating bit too far with this one.
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trumptard's whining snowflakes whining about whining snowflakes gives me life.
But apple has spent years on brainwashing their mindless minions about "security" and how aliens are going to steal their data or some such nonsense.
You should really try the "spouse" test before you post. After writing your post call your loved one over and have them read it out loud. If you both agree that the post furthers the conversation or educates the reader then you go ahead and post it.
You should give it a try next time.
I've had 2 in 1 month of usage of my new Galaxy S8.
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And it's the 3rd system update that has caused battery issues on my iPhone 6s. Previous one totally killed my battery, because I had to charge multiple times a day. Come on Apple! What's going on?!
In Settings, disable "Android Emulation Mode".
I would like to complain to the moderators of the site acting on this post, which clearly should have been moderated as "Flamebait" or "Unfunny" instead of "Off-Topic", as it was clearly on-topic.
Thank you for your hard work in correctly sorting out the trash bins of Slashdot.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Probably some kind of non-microwave oven.
It's those homogenerous people helping out that really grind my gears.
You really are a whiny cunt aren't you?
Possibly the most Fe post I've seen in quite awhile
I get an Android update every month, just did one this morning
and the battery lasts all day. clearly you're doing something wrong. takes tweaking and you can't overload it with every app under the sun all notifying...
nothing to see here - move along
See subject: "Imitation=sincerest form of flattery" PROVING u WISH u were ME & poor imitation = u.
* I don't post on hosts in topics that don't fit it (unless you of "moron kind" bring it up 1st)
(Hence, you give yourself away you're impersonating me!)
APK
P.S.=> What are you trying (& failing) to accomplish? Trying to "make me look bad"?? I have to ask as it's EXTREMELY DIFFICULT for me to "think like 'your kind'" (no-mind do-NOTHING "ne'er-do-wells" that can't think, lol) to even TRY to understand your "mental processes" (none obviously that are up to any good)... apk
Solidifying your bad karma with homophobic and transphobic jokes now?
I have news for you :
We, the overwhelming majority do not have to tolerate aberrant weirdoes like you. Nor do we have to accept you. For many of us, your very existence is sickening. No amount of whining from your kind is going to force us to accept you. The harder you push, the more repulsive you are to the vast majority of humanity. Good luck overcoming that reality -- it's never going to happen.
it's your provider who sent the updates (t-mobile or att or somebody) android has been updated more frequently than that
nothing to see here - move along
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Maybe you just use a 3rd rate carrier... I get nearly weekly updates (security, OS, etc) on my Verizon Samsung Note 8...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
If you are not happy please leave. Im sure appleinsider needs another tech illiterate apple wackjob.
I upgraded to 11.4 a while ago and didn't see any problems. What I usually see is articles saying that battery life is better for some and worse for others. I'd guess that it's App issues.
Chur, just went and turned off vast majority of my apps doing background app refresh.
"While Android wisely avoids the problem by almost never having Updates at all..."
Why on earth has this been modded funny?
Pot calling the kettle black you piece of garbage. You'll rue the day!
-- the gay mafia
You should really try the "spouse" test before you post. After writing your post call your loved one over and have them read it out loud. If you both agree that the post furthers the conversation or educates the reader then you go ahead and post it.
You should give it a try next time.
OMG!
Are you trying to kill the internets?!?!?
"While Android wisely avoids the problem by almost never having Updates at all..."
Why on earth has this been modded funny?
Because there isn't a "Sad But True" Moderation-Tag?
Different AC;
'We' - the appeal to popularity of those insecure about their position in society.
To be clear, you sure as fuck don't speak for me.
Small minded bigotry existed long before the latest targets of same. I've heard similar sentiments expressed around race, social class or cultural background. In a few more years kids will look on people who hold your views with the same kind of embarrassed horror that we view geriatrics muttering about 'miscegenation'.
Your 'sickening' feelings are neither new nor interesting and will soon be irrelevant.
50% after two years?
I'm not sure what you're using, but decent Li ion batteries should last about 1000 cycles before they hit 80%. At one charge per day that's over two and a half years.
I've got an iPhone 6+ that's probably nearly four years old. A previous owner had a 'typical' usage for about 2 years; mine has been 'light'. Probably charged once a day for most of that period and just now getting down to 83% (self reported).
As a developer who has written drivers for DSP and other low level stuff, I can say with great certainty that this is definitely an iOS bug. The problem did not occur at all before the 11.4.0 update. As soon as that update dropped it happens without fail for the past 5 weeks. It's not background apps. I can close all apps, charge to 100%, unplug when I go to bed and in the morning it's 20%. Something is getting stuck in a loop or maybe some chip is getting bad commands. The phone gets physically warm so something is running free.
No doubt everyone that always used their iPhone a lot is going to jump in an say "me too" when their problem is that they're just using their phone a lot. So naturally that has created enough doubt to muddy the diagnosis. And Apple has not acknowledge the bug so there are a lot of responses regarding how to turn things off to improve battery. But, again, that is NOT the problem. The problem is something is running uncontrolled.
There are many theories as to the cause. Many have to do with something related to WiFi. The only pattern that I have seen is that if I shutdown and restart, the problem goes away for a while. But as soon as I use the phone for whatever reason, it comes back. It might take 6 hours. It might take a day. But eventually it always comes back and then it's stuck draining battery unless I reboot.
Note that iOS 11.4.1 was just released yesterday. But the release notes say nothing about battery anything so it remains to be seen if they have fixed it. It is discouraging that they have not acknowledged it. It makes you wonder if they're actually having trouble reproducing it. But that would almost unbelievable since they could just install 11.3 and compare. Of course we can't do that because 11.3 isn't signed anymore so it cannot be installed. Obviously it's not a trivial CPU loop or they would have spotted it quick. Running the CPU in debugging mode probably suppresses it or again they would have spotted it quick.
I'm starting to have doubts about Apple. Steve Jobs was a prick but maybe that's precisely why he was so successful.
Pattern.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2709502/Does-Apple-deliberately-slow-old-models-new-release-Searches-iPhone-slow-spike-ahead-launches.html
I've had 2 in 1 month of usage of my new Galaxy S8.
Can't find the post you're replying to, so I'm going to assume house fires?
...and my background refreshing is off.
... you smart people eliminated the QA discipline from the tech industry.
Back in our day, us stupid people would have had to do battery drain testing before signing-off on a release.
Nope, I don't live in the US.
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