I typically plug the charger into my iPhone at night for use the next day. This new feature would seem to indicate that the port will be disconnected after one hour. The question that comes to mind is how does one get a full charged iPhone. One would hope that the software is able to determine if an "external device" is plugged in or a charger.
It specifically allows charging even when the USB data path is disabled.
It already exists. It's called "crack open the phone immediately". I'd be a lot more impressed with this technology if the user could configure the time all the way down to zero. There's no valid reason to allow new external devices to be probed while the phone is locked—not even one second after the phone is locked. The user can't do anything with those external devices without unlocking the device anyway.
This is, of course, as opposed to communicating with existing, known devices while the device is locked, which could be used by things like docks. Basically, it should stop probing for new devices immediately, and lock the port when the last device disappears, or immediately if there's nothing plugged into the port.
While I agree, I am sure the one-hour timeout was set to balance security against convenience.
Having said that, the only reason I can think of to make the timeout non-adjustable is that makes it somewhat less vulnerable to hacking.
Google thinks customers first and worried about money later. And no, their hardware IS crap. AND THEY DO NOT OUTPERFORM.
Iâ(TM)ve done more research than you will ever. If you want a decent laptop without a piece of shit unless touch bar ur stuck with a 4 year old chipset. Take a look macroumwrs buying guides for their computers and see which ones are on âdonâ(TM)t buyâ(TM). What the fu k is with the air, and the Mac mini. The iMac pro is an overpriced piece of shit that Mac frantics are racing overs. Where can you find a VR supported Mac. They just suck. Behind the times, or stuck at the times of thinking they can wow their base by crappy gimmicks, and shaving off a few mm from their laptop while killing the battery. They are just dumb.
They do not outperform shit. Ever since Steve jobs was gone, the fucking company went downhill. I hate them. They suck.
You truly need to seek help. You are not even a little bit rational.
What do you mean? Yeah, so Now I feel safer knowing that law enforcement donâ(TM)t have tools they need to do their job. Wtf,
Apple is a piece of crap. I hate them and everything they stand for, including their money first customer second model. I mean who the fuck sells obsolete hardware at twice the price of newer hardware. Fuck them. This is all a money thing for them.
Ahem.
First, they don't sell obsolete hardware in the laptop/desktop arena. Mac mini and the current Mac Pro notwithstanding.
Second, I don't know what delusional, Blind Apple Hating world you live in; but out here in FACT-land, mist people agree that Apple's mobile device performance is generally at LEAST a full generation ahead of the competition.
require the datasheets for all components sold (including as components of complete assemblies) to be released to the public domain whenever the device goes EOL
This would massively reduce the number of devices going to landfill*, and would provide a market for 3rd party OSes.
However, it is clear that Google's behaviour (as in "yer cant have our playstore unless you kiss our butt") is illegal in Europe, and the only question over the potential fine is "does Europe have a big enough bank to hold the loot".
* and by implication, make the phone market follow the PC market where people don't keep replacing perfectly good devices with "new" but worse machines. (2015 PCs had similar specs to 2010 machines, except the screens and keyboards were mostly worse, and the DVD drive was removed - and people wonder why the PC market is in decline?).
IMHO, your proposals would likely result in a.00001% reduction in landfilled devices. The vast majority of the populace, even those enlightened souls posting on this site, discard/trade in their old smartphones because they WANT to upgrade. That is the nature of MOST people, sorry.
You cannot force a company to give up IP such as datasheets for baseband and proprietary ICs. And when you are talking about something without ANY real distribution, like Apple's SoCs, there honestly likely isn't even a "Datashert", per se, even for INTERNAL use. There are block diagrams and lists of Registers necessary for the low-level software Devs. to use, but nothing so formal or complete as a true Datasheet. If I were a betting-droid, I would wager a fair amount of Credits on that being the case.
Landfill reduction is FAR better served by programs such as Apple's recycling robots, which can recover a significant percentage (IIRC, around 80-90%) of the materials used in discarded/traded-in iPhones and other Apple devices. In fact, Apple stated that they have a goal by 2025 that their devices will be made almost exclusively with recycled materials.
As for people writing their own OSes: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. You may think it would; but it won't, sorry.
And once they have spoken, there is very little that a Corporation, or even a GROUP of Companies, can do about it but whine.
As a consumer, I appreciate their efforts to keep the playing field level. Also, as a consumer, I have no need for Google to grow even bigger.
When they are truly working to protect the public, then that level of activism is admirable. But too often, they, get caught up in some cause du jour, often at the behest of an overzealous or overambitious small group. And, like the U.S. Congress when it gets like that, then that same zealous mindset can wreak havoc in world markets, and end up actually harming the populace.
So, pray tell, what's to stop YOU, or ANYBODY, from writing their OWN iOS Software and loading it onto THEIR iOS device(s)?
$99 per year for developer registration and purchase of a Mac, for starters... For Android I can use pretty much any computer I already have (including my phone that will run the app).
Only need the $99 license to post to the App Store.
> You wanna use our app store, you gotta install our search. > Apple doesn't do that.
Actually if you want to use Apple's app store, you DO have to have their search. Also their voice assistant, their messaging app, their camera app, their email app, their news app, their hardware...
You can't get a phone with Apple's app store installed unless it also has 36 other Apple apps bundled too.
Google says "our app store is part of our bundle of five or six apps". Apple bundles 37 apps with its app store. So Apple does the same thing, times six.
Another stupid Apple Hater.
You can divest your Apple iOS Device of ANY Unwanted Apple Apps. Have been able to do so for some time now.
Apple -> You may not play in our garden with your device, nor may you alter our device to play in another garden, no way, no how.. And by the way, we have strict rules for what you can do IN our garden.
Google -> You MAY play in our garden or any other garden you choose with your device, but if you wish to play in our garden, you must follow our rules.
One has high stone walls and NO door or gate. You either start inside the wall or you don't get in.. The other has a nice fence and a door with a list of regulations on it.
So, pray tell, what's to stop YOU, or ANYBODY, from writing their OWN iOS Software and loading it onto THEIR iOS device(s)?
How do you think all that App Store software gets written in the FIRST PLACE? What a MAROON!!!
There are even avenues for Distribution of said Software. There are several F/OSS and.ipa Repositories; plus you are ABSOLUTELY free to start your OWN iOS App Store. Yes, you heard that right.
If I read you correctly, Apple doesn't provide any choice and Europe is OK with them, Google indeed provides choice with the only exception of mandating that their own apps must be installed, and Google is suddenly a monopoly? Also, who or what forces OEMs to install Android in the first place?
If Europe wants a third major OS/player in the mobile market then why don't they create one?
What you say is true; but it doesn't involve Apple. But I DO agree that Google isn't forcing Android on these OEMs, and IMHO, the EU should FOAD when it comes to a PRIVATE contract negotiated between two PRIVATE parties. If $OEM and Google are both happy, then the EU should just BUTT-OUT!
There is ABSOLUTELY no "Public Policy" issue here, either. The EU's citizenry is not being forced to buy an Android phone, no more than they are forced to buy an iOS phone.
The EU is the most HORRIBLE example of the "Nanny State" mentality on the planet. They aren't EXACTLY "Totalitarian"; but they are EXTREMELY Regulation-Happy and Litigious. And once they have spoken, there is very little that a Corporation, or even a GROUP of Companies, can do about it but whine.
But the Android trademark is not free to use. To be able to call what you ship "Android" you have to agree to additional terms beyond the Apache license.
So, the fuck WHAT?
In case you haven't noticed, EVERY time you see a Logo on something; you can BET a License (a/k/a $$$) and other stipulations, was involved.
Look at the average BD/DVD Player. Mine has like 10 Logos silk-screened across the top front. Do you think those Logos didn't come with "Strings"? If so, you are naive beyond belief.
Because Apple doesn't license its OS to third parties under coercive terms?
Android is given out to OEMs more or less for free yet Android's development costs quite a lot of money. In its turn, you're right, Google demands that you use/prominently feature some of their services. Again, you may freely use core Android OS sans Google Play and associated services.
Tell me again about the "coercion" and how it relates to the fact that no one forces any OEM to use Android at all.
Why isn't there an antitrust lawsuit against Apple whose App Store is 100^100 more closed/restricted than the Android ecosystem? I really don't understand why Google isn't allowed to dictate its own rules in regard to Android - if you don't like them, you're free to use the Android core sans Google Play and associated services. What the hell is going on?
And yet you would no doubt Champion if Apple was having this handed to them, even though they are not the dominant mobile Platform, wouldn't you?
Amazon is big enough to have a limited amount of Android fork for its own devices, that are kind of dedicated to accessing Amazon services. Other manufacturers are not in that position.
Bull FUCKING Shit!!!
Do you REALLY think that Amazon actually wrote their flavor of Android? No. They contracted it out. And so can Samsung, LG, HTC, et al.
Apple did it from the ground-up. Those lazy Android OEM bastards can Fork a perfectly working copy of Android and take it from there. Talk about a Leg-Up!!!
But they are too LAZY, STUPID and GREEDY to do it!
All the EU needs to do to avoid that is stipulate Google must keep the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) repository going and up to date. Then manufacturers (or anyone else for that matter) can fork that and build their own Android-compatible OS (without Google Services).
So it's 100% feasible today to fork Android, and make a completely no-Google competing product that Google gets 0% of the revenue from. This is what Amazon does with FireOS.
Exactly!
And at least the Samsungs, LGs and HTC of the world are big enough to pull that off, if Amazon can contract out an OS, so can they, FFS!
Apple wrote their mobile OS FROM SCRATCH (as much from "scratch" as ANY OS is made, that is); so why can the rest of the Freeloaders?
And allow the other one (Apple) to continue monopolising and suing third service outfits unabated.
Surely the OEMs can still install their own browsers and stores and won't lose the ability to offer the user the ability to configure those at first start?
In case you haven't noticed, iOS has alternative browsers, and there are alternative iOS App Stores (F/OSS Repositories and.ipa Repositories) and independent websites galore.
But as usual, Slashtards have Willful Blindness when it comes to ANYTHING Apple.
If you want to decrease the market share of Android, probably the quickest way to do this would be to force iOS to allow other manufacturers to create hardware for their device.
Can't be done, legally, and thank $Deity it can't.
No more than the EU can force Samsung to allow other companies to make their smartphones under license.
See how absurd it sounds when the word "Apple" isn't in the sentence?
However, IMHO, this is an absurd position by the EU. Samsung, HTC, LG, et al. are absolutely free to write their OWN mobile OS. After all, one could start with any flavor of Embedded Linux, or like Apple did, a Mach/BSD Unix, and write their OWN mobile OS. Apple did. What's THEIR excuse?
But if Apple suddenly wanted to crush the rest of the Android market by releasing an Android-based phone, then, just like the other guys, THEY would have to embed Google's App Suite, too, or at least secure an Agreement with Google to exempt them from that requirement. But the Google App Suite is simply the "price" of having Google pay $$$$$$$$$$$ to develop and maintain Android.
Since any OEM is free to write their OS, then there IS no Monopoly, regardless of the size of Google's marketshare.
Have you compared Apple's profits vs. the rest of the mobile industry? Apple's margins are insane in comparison to everyone else. Android OEMs basically give out their devices for free. And what about Apple using all the loopholes in the world not to pay taxes? Why isn't Europe fining Apple for billions of dollars because in the real world Apple is a far worse offender.
So, you're just complaining that Apple has a more successful business model than their copycats.
Not visionary if people were envisioning such things in the 1950s, the pocket computers and communicators, cars with navigation computers that could speak, computers built into furniture or walls, etc. (Asimov, Heinlein, etc.).
Note Jobs had no such successful product though his competitors did.
No such successful product? By what measure?!?
And a Sci Fi author imagining a thing such as a Dick Tracy watch or a Cellphone is a HELL of a long way from assembling the team and resources, and making the decisions to make it all ACTUALLY happen.
The competitors can get the same deal on made in China parts and as early in the design stages.
When profit is not the motive at this time to build brand names quality can be pushed up.
Unless Apple has its very own lower cost cpu, gpu, wireless and brings in a new lens set?
Well, since Apple supplies both the "CPU" (SoC) and GPU (which may also be integrated into the SoC), it is virtually impossible to know what their "landed cost" is on those two very-significant components in the BOM total.
And show me ONE Company AT ALL where Profit is NOT the "motive". And don't name some fake-altruistic "Not For Profit". In MOST cases, their big trick is to MAKE Profits, then DISTRIBUTE THEM to "Improvements" and "Bonuses" for the Board Members.
What are you? Ten years old? Because you seem to have that level of disconnection from the real world of business.
except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. I am just blathering about something
FTFY
Plus, in 1978, "Car computers" were little-more than simple state machines in their application. The vast majority simply accepted a trigger from a Hall-Effect sensor in the MECHANICAL Distributor, and an analog voltage from a throttle-position-sensor to compute what amounted to the same thing the mechanical vacuum advance had previously done; spark timing. That is all.
except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. Steve Jobs was just blathering about something already long done in industries of which he was utterly ignorant.
Plenty of computer manufacturers make appliances that adhere to standards, unlike Apple. If Apple made toasters they would only take special Apple-shaped bread.
Yes, but the TERM "Embedded System" didn't exist in 1978.
I know. I was an Embedded Systems Designer back then, We just didn't call the job that until later.
And Steve wasn't talking about car computers or VCRs with microcontrollers in them. He was talking more about having something akin to an iPad, but integrated into your schooldesk or coffee table. IOW, he was thinking outside of the beige box, or in Apple's case (no pun), outside of the stylish beige typewriter-design.
That only works if the parts cost near $1000. A $350 parts list is still not going to get that performance needed to get beyond a $350 phone by another brand.
Accept a drop in profit to buy into much better parts? Drop the price?
Features like a new color and more notch?
That assumes that two BOMs that add-up to the same total-cost are equivalent. That's a laughable assumption.
I can tell who has never designed a hardware product before. Hint: It isn't me.
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I typically plug the charger into my iPhone at night for use the next day. This new feature would seem to indicate that the port will be disconnected after one hour. The question that comes to mind is how does one get a full charged iPhone. One would hope that the software is able to determine if an "external device" is plugged in or a charger.
It specifically allows charging even when the USB data path is disabled.
It already exists. It's called "crack open the phone immediately". I'd be a lot more impressed with this technology if the user could configure the time all the way down to zero. There's no valid reason to allow new external devices to be probed while the phone is locked—not even one second after the phone is locked. The user can't do anything with those external devices without unlocking the device anyway.
This is, of course, as opposed to communicating with existing, known devices while the device is locked, which could be used by things like docks. Basically, it should stop probing for new devices immediately, and lock the port when the last device disappears, or immediately if there's nothing plugged into the port.
While I agree, I am sure the one-hour timeout was set to balance security against convenience.
Having said that, the only reason I can think of to make the timeout non-adjustable is that makes it somewhat less vulnerable to hacking.
Also he is posting from iOS.....
Nice!
Google thinks customers first and worried about money later. And no, their hardware IS crap. AND THEY DO NOT OUTPERFORM.
Iâ(TM)ve done more research than you will ever. If you want a decent laptop without a piece of shit unless touch bar ur stuck with a 4 year old chipset. Take a look macroumwrs buying guides for their computers and see which ones are on âdonâ(TM)t buyâ(TM). What the fu k is with the air, and the Mac mini. The iMac pro is an overpriced piece of shit that Mac frantics are racing overs. Where can you find a VR supported Mac. They just suck. Behind the times, or stuck at the times of thinking they can wow their base by crappy gimmicks, and shaving off a few mm from their laptop while killing the battery. They are just dumb.
They do not outperform shit. Ever since Steve jobs was gone, the fucking company went downhill. I hate them. They suck.
You truly need to seek help. You are not even a little bit rational.
What do you mean? Yeah, so Now I feel safer knowing that law enforcement donâ(TM)t have tools they need to do their job. Wtf,
Apple is a piece of crap. I hate them and everything they stand for, including their money first customer second model. I mean who the fuck sells obsolete hardware at twice the price of newer hardware. Fuck them. This is all a money thing for them.
Ahem.
First, they don't sell obsolete hardware in the laptop/desktop arena. Mac mini and the current Mac Pro notwithstanding.
Second, I don't know what delusional, Blind Apple Hating world you live in; but out here in FACT-land, mist people agree that Apple's mobile device performance is generally at LEAST a full generation ahead of the competition.
So, kindly .FOAD, COWARD.
What the EU COULD do, is force manufacturers to:
This would massively reduce the number of devices going to landfill*, and would provide a market for 3rd party OSes.
However, it is clear that Google's behaviour (as in "yer cant have our playstore unless you kiss our butt") is illegal in Europe, and the only question over the potential fine is "does Europe have a big enough bank to hold the loot".
* and by implication, make the phone market follow the PC market where people don't keep replacing perfectly good devices with "new" but worse machines. (2015 PCs had similar specs to 2010 machines, except the screens and keyboards were mostly worse, and the DVD drive was removed - and people wonder why the PC market is in decline?).
IMHO, your proposals would likely result in a .00001% reduction in landfilled devices. The vast majority of the populace, even those enlightened souls posting on this site, discard/trade in their old smartphones because they WANT to upgrade. That is the nature of MOST people, sorry.
You cannot force a company to give up IP such as datasheets for baseband and proprietary ICs. And when you are talking about something without ANY real distribution, like Apple's SoCs, there honestly likely isn't even a "Datashert", per se, even for INTERNAL use. There are block diagrams and lists of Registers necessary for the low-level software Devs. to use, but nothing so formal or complete as a true Datasheet. If I were a betting-droid, I would wager a fair amount of Credits on that being the case.
Landfill reduction is FAR better served by programs such as Apple's recycling robots, which can recover a significant percentage (IIRC, around 80-90%) of the materials used in discarded/traded-in iPhones and other Apple devices. In fact, Apple stated that they have a goal by 2025 that their devices will be made almost exclusively with recycled materials.
As for people writing their own OSes: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. You may think it would; but it won't, sorry.
And once they have spoken, there is very little that a Corporation, or even a GROUP of Companies, can do about it but whine.
As a consumer, I appreciate their efforts to keep the playing field level. Also, as a consumer, I have no need for Google to grow even bigger.
When they are truly working to protect the public, then that level of activism is admirable. But too often, they, get caught up in some cause du jour, often at the behest of an overzealous or overambitious small group. And, like the U.S. Congress when it gets like that, then that same zealous mindset can wreak havoc in world markets, and end up actually harming the populace.
So, pray tell, what's to stop YOU, or ANYBODY, from writing their OWN iOS Software and loading it onto THEIR iOS device(s)?
$99 per year for developer registration and purchase of a Mac, for starters... For Android I can use pretty much any computer I already have (including my phone that will run the app).
Only need the $99 license to post to the App Store.
So what if you need a Mac.
> You wanna use our app store, you gotta install our search.
> Apple doesn't do that.
Actually if you want to use Apple's app store, you DO have to have their search. Also their voice assistant, their messaging app, their camera app, their email app, their news app, their hardware ...
You can't get a phone with Apple's app store installed unless it also has 36 other Apple apps bundled too.
Google says "our app store is part of our bundle of five or six apps". Apple bundles 37 apps with its app store. So Apple does the same thing, times six.
Another stupid Apple Hater.
You can divest your Apple iOS Device of ANY Unwanted Apple Apps. Have been able to do so for some time now.
Do try to keep up, Hater:
https://www.imore.com/how-dele...
I see the difference...
Apple -> You may not play in our garden with your device, nor may you alter our device to play in another garden, no way, no how.. And by the way, we have strict rules for what you can do IN our garden.
Google -> You MAY play in our garden or any other garden you choose with your device, but if you wish to play in our garden, you must follow our rules.
One has high stone walls and NO door or gate. You either start inside the wall or you don't get in.. The other has a nice fence and a door with a list of regulations on it.
So, pray tell, what's to stop YOU, or ANYBODY, from writing their OWN iOS Software and loading it onto THEIR iOS device(s)?
How do you think all that App Store software gets written in the FIRST PLACE? What a MAROON!!!
There are even avenues for Distribution of said Software. There are several F/OSS and .ipa Repositories; plus you are ABSOLUTELY free to start your OWN iOS App Store. Yes, you heard that right.
You Slashtard Apple-Haters are fucking STUPID.
If I read you correctly, Apple doesn't provide any choice and Europe is OK with them, Google indeed provides choice with the only exception of mandating that their own apps must be installed, and Google is suddenly a monopoly? Also, who or what forces OEMs to install Android in the first place?
If Europe wants a third major OS/player in the mobile market then why don't they create one?
What you say is true; but it doesn't involve Apple. But I DO agree that Google isn't forcing Android on these OEMs, and IMHO, the EU should FOAD when it comes to a PRIVATE contract negotiated between two PRIVATE parties. If $OEM and Google are both happy, then the EU should just BUTT-OUT!
There is ABSOLUTELY no "Public Policy" issue here, either. The EU's citizenry is not being forced to buy an Android phone, no more than they are forced to buy an iOS phone.
The EU is the most HORRIBLE example of the "Nanny State" mentality on the planet. They aren't EXACTLY "Totalitarian"; but they are EXTREMELY Regulation-Happy and Litigious. And once they have spoken, there is very little that a Corporation, or even a GROUP of Companies, can do about it but whine.
But the Android trademark is not free to use. To be able to call what you ship "Android" you have to agree to additional terms beyond the Apache license.
So, the fuck WHAT?
In case you haven't noticed, EVERY time you see a Logo on something; you can BET a License (a/k/a $$$) and other stipulations, was involved.
Look at the average BD/DVD Player. Mine has like 10 Logos silk-screened across the top front. Do you think those Logos didn't come with "Strings"? If so, you are naive beyond belief.
Android is given out to OEMs more or less for free yet Android's development costs quite a lot of money. In its turn, you're right, Google demands that you use/prominently feature some of their services. Again, you may freely use core Android OS sans Google Play and associated services.
Tell me again about the "coercion" and how it relates to the fact that no one forces any OEM to use Android at all.
On this, we both agree.
Why isn't there an antitrust lawsuit against Apple whose App Store is 100^100 more closed/restricted than the Android ecosystem? I really don't understand why Google isn't allowed to dictate its own rules in regard to Android - if you don't like them, you're free to use the Android core sans Google Play and associated services. What the hell is going on?
And yet you would no doubt Champion if Apple was having this handed to them, even though they are not the dominant mobile Platform, wouldn't you?
apple hides this kind of stuff under R&D
Citation, Hater.
Amazon is big enough to have a limited amount of Android fork for its own devices, that are kind of dedicated to accessing Amazon services. Other manufacturers are not in that position.
Bull FUCKING Shit!!!
Do you REALLY think that Amazon actually wrote their flavor of Android? No. They contracted it out. And so can Samsung, LG, HTC, et al.
Apple did it from the ground-up. Those lazy Android OEM bastards can Fork a perfectly working copy of Android and take it from there. Talk about a Leg-Up!!!
But they are too LAZY, STUPID and GREEDY to do it!
All the EU needs to do to avoid that is stipulate Google must keep the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) repository going and up to date. Then manufacturers (or anyone else for that matter) can fork that and build their own Android-compatible OS (without Google Services).
So it's 100% feasible today to fork Android, and make a completely no-Google competing product that Google gets 0% of the revenue from. This is what Amazon does with FireOS.
Exactly!
And at least the Samsungs, LGs and HTC of the world are big enough to pull that off, if Amazon can contract out an OS, so can they, FFS!
Apple wrote their mobile OS FROM SCRATCH (as much from "scratch" as ANY OS is made, that is); so why can the rest of the Freeloaders?
And allow the other one (Apple) to continue monopolising and suing third service outfits unabated.
Surely the OEMs can still install their own browsers and stores and won't lose the ability to offer the user the ability to configure those at first start?
In case you haven't noticed, iOS has alternative browsers, and there are alternative iOS App Stores (F/OSS Repositories and .ipa Repositories) and independent websites galore.
But as usual, Slashtards have Willful Blindness when it comes to ANYTHING Apple.
If you want to decrease the market share of Android, probably the quickest way to do this would be to force iOS to allow other manufacturers to create hardware for their device.
Can't be done, legally, and thank $Deity it can't.
No more than the EU can force Samsung to allow other companies to make their smartphones under license.
See how absurd it sounds when the word "Apple" isn't in the sentence?
However, IMHO, this is an absurd position by the EU. Samsung, HTC, LG, et al. are absolutely free to write their OWN mobile OS. After all, one could start with any flavor of Embedded Linux, or like Apple did, a Mach/BSD Unix, and write their OWN mobile OS. Apple did. What's THEIR excuse?
But if Apple suddenly wanted to crush the rest of the Android market by releasing an Android-based phone, then, just like the other guys, THEY would have to embed Google's App Suite, too, or at least secure an Agreement with Google to exempt them from that requirement. But the Google App Suite is simply the "price" of having Google pay $$$$$$$$$$$ to develop and maintain Android.
Since any OEM is free to write their OS, then there IS no Monopoly, regardless of the size of Google's marketshare.
Have you compared Apple's profits vs. the rest of the mobile industry? Apple's margins are insane in comparison to everyone else. Android OEMs basically give out their devices for free. And what about Apple using all the loopholes in the world not to pay taxes? Why isn't Europe fining Apple for billions of dollars because in the real world Apple is a far worse offender.
So, you're just complaining that Apple has a more successful business model than their copycats.
Not visionary if people were envisioning such things in the 1950s, the pocket computers and communicators, cars with navigation computers that could speak, computers built into furniture or walls, etc. (Asimov, Heinlein, etc.).
Note Jobs had no such successful product though his competitors did.
No such successful product? By what measure?!?
And a Sci Fi author imagining a thing such as a Dick Tracy watch or a Cellphone is a HELL of a long way from assembling the team and resources, and making the decisions to make it all ACTUALLY happen.
Re "the same total-cost are equivalent. "
The competitors can get the same deal on made in China parts and as early in the design stages.
When profit is not the motive at this time to build brand names quality can be pushed up.
Unless Apple has its very own lower cost cpu, gpu, wireless and brings in a new lens set?
Well, since Apple supplies both the "CPU" (SoC) and GPU (which may also be integrated into the SoC), it is virtually impossible to know what their "landed cost" is on those two very-significant components in the BOM total.
And show me ONE Company AT ALL where Profit is NOT the "motive". And don't name some fake-altruistic "Not For Profit". In MOST cases, their big trick is to MAKE Profits, then DISTRIBUTE THEM to "Improvements" and "Bonuses" for the Board Members.
What are you? Ten years old? Because you seem to have that level of disconnection from the real world of business.
except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. I am just blathering about something
FTFY
Plus, in 1978, "Car computers" were little-more than simple state machines in their application. The vast majority simply accepted a trigger from a Hall-Effect sensor in the MECHANICAL Distributor, and an analog voltage from a throttle-position-sensor to compute what amounted to the same thing the mechanical vacuum advance had previously done; spark timing. That is all.
except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. Steve Jobs was just blathering about something already long done in industries of which he was utterly ignorant.
Plenty of computer manufacturers make appliances that adhere to standards, unlike Apple. If Apple made toasters they would only take special Apple-shaped bread.
Yes, but the TERM "Embedded System" didn't exist in 1978.
I know. I was an Embedded Systems Designer back then, We just didn't call the job that until later.
And Steve wasn't talking about car computers or VCRs with microcontrollers in them. He was talking more about having something akin to an iPad, but integrated into your schooldesk or coffee table. IOW, he was thinking outside of the beige box, or in Apple's case (no pun), outside of the stylish beige typewriter-design.
That only works if the parts cost near $1000. A $350 parts list is still not going to get that performance needed to get beyond a $350 phone by another brand.
Accept a drop in profit to buy into much better parts? Drop the price?
Features like a new color and more notch?
That assumes that two BOMs that add-up to the same total-cost are equivalent. That's a laughable assumption.
I can tell who has never designed a hardware product before. Hint: It isn't me.