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Apple's New iPhones Will Come In a Plethora of New Colors, Says Report (9to5mac.com)

According to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple's new 2018 iPhones will come in a plethora of colors. The 6.5-inch iPhone will be offered in black, white, and a (new) gold, while the entry-level 6.1-inch LCD iPhone will debut in "grey, white, blue, red and orange." 9to5Mac reports: That's a potential five new colors for the LCD model. It is very possible that when Kuo says "grey" and "white" he is referring to the Space Grey and Silver finishes as seen on the current iPhone X. We've mocked up the new finishes by tinting an iPhone X, but note the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone is not expected to have a dual-camera system. However, that still means Apple is looking to introduce four new options. It seems like the higher end models will add gold to the lineup...

The ~$700 6.1-inch LCD 2018 iPhone (which will mostly resemble an iPhone X's design from the front) will have a larger lineup including blue, red and orange. This harkens back to the iPhone 5c era when Apple rolled out a cheaper iPhone sibling in colorful chassis. We have heard some mumblings prior to today's report about Apple expanding the color options for the cheaper phone, but this is the first time someone reputable has reported specifics. It's not clear if the "red" color means PRODUCT(RED)...
Kuo also says that the 6.5-inch OLED iPhone Model should be priced around $1,000 like the current iPhone X, and will feature dual SIM capabilities. Meanwhile, the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone X style device should retail for around $700. The other iPhone expected to be released later this year will be a spec-bump upgrade to the 5.8-inch iPhone X currently available.

In other Apple-related news, Intel will reportedly not provide the 5G modems for Apple's 2020 mobile devices.

192 comments

  1. Redefining 'plethora' by chrism238 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems that the Reality Distortion Field will soon be redefining 'plethora'.

    1. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Plethora is them liddle fishies that stick to sharks and stuff.

      They suck.

      Like iPhone's paint job idea.

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    2. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Reality Distortion Field being a phrase made up 36 years ago by the original Macintosh team leader about a man who has been dead for nearly 7 years.

      Are we going to keep doing this, or can I take your lunch money now.

    3. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by PPH · · Score: 1

      I thought it said 'pleather'. Never mind.

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    4. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Zaelath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Jefe, would you say I have a plethora of piñatas?

    5. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jefe, what is a plethora?

    6. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by msauve · · Score: 1

      WTF? /. can handle virgulilla, but not (typographically) proper quotes?

      (I know, if someone has command of HTLM characters much is possible here, but there's still a general WTF, because it all should be easier than it is.)

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    7. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure it can do all of Latin-1:
      ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏÐÑÒÓÔÕÖרÙÚÛÜÝßàáâãäåæçèéêëìíîïðñòóôõö÷øùúûüýÿ

    8. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      And all of unicode:

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    9. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      Canna but wilna

    10. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by mwvdlee · · Score: 0

      I have a plethora of fingers on my left hand. Add my right hand and... how could I even possibly count them all?

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    11. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Seems that the Reality Distortion Field will soon be redefining 'plethora'.

      So brave.

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    12. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by stealth_finger · · Score: 0

      The Reality Distortion Field being a phrase made up 36 years ago by the original Macintosh team leader about a man who has been dead for nearly 7 years.

      Are we going to keep doing this, or can I take your lunch money now.

      Yes we are because it's still a thing and no, you can fuck off.

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    13. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Reality Distortion Field being a phrase made up 36 years ago by the original Macintosh team leader about a man who has been dead for nearly 7 years.

      Are we going to keep doing this, or can I take your lunch money now.

      Yes we are because it's still a thing and no, you can fuck off.

      Exactly - of course the only ones still affected are Apple Haters, who have mostly lost touch with reality.

    14. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seems that the Reality Distortion Field will soon be redefining 'plethora'.

      plethora (plr)
      n
      1. superfluity or excess; overabundance

      Since so many seem to think 5 colors is too much, that is exactly the definition of plethora,

    15. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no the dreaded apple haters.

    16. Re: Redefining 'plethora' by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 0

      The shocking thing to me is that the $700 model is being considered a 'low end' choice.

      They really do have a stringer of suckers floating alongside the boat.

    17. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no the dumb apple haters.

      FTFY

    18. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Well it sounds more ominous then the term "Good marketing".

      Apples Marketing method is to come up with an idea, then they show you how to use that idea to make your life better.
      How other tech companies do it, they show what features they have, thinking the end user will know how to utilize them to make their lives better.

      Apple isn't lying about its products or its features, however they are giving a use case scenario that may not match what people actually do, but they tell the story so well that people see themselves in such a scenario long enough for them to buy the product. They knew what they got and what they are getting into, it is just their lives didn't match what they thought they will be using the product for.

      The other method, we see features and we may or may not tie them into a benefit. So the more advanced product just doesn't seem appealing.

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    19. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 2

      Well it sounds more ominous then the term "Good marketing".

      "Good marketing" should be considered a very ominous term, indeed.

    20. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by spun · · Score: 1

      Came here for this reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    21. Re: Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Suck a bag of sucks you fucking Reddit cow.

    22. Re: Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But do they have a plethora of pinatas?

    23. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awwww so cute. Now off to your safe space.

    24. Re:Redefining 'plethora' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So everywhere where there are no insane people like you.

  2. New colors, wowser wowser wowser! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This is so innovative, so leading edge.

    Excitement is back in the phone industry, for sure!

    1. Re: New colors, wowser wowser wowser! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canâ(TM)t innovate my ass!

    2. Re: New colors, wowser wowser wowser! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Tons of courage.

  3. When your product's stale ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... paint it.

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    1. Re:When your product's stale ... by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd honestly be happy if new colors were about the extent of things and that they'd spent an entire year polishing features that already exist. As much as everyone harps on about innovation, new features for the sake of new features aren't useful, especially when half-baked in order to meet a yearly release schedule. Give me a solid implementation of a good idea over a weak attempt at a new one any day. New colors should be plenty to satisfy the idiots.

    2. Re:When your product's stale ... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      After emojis and animojis, yet another spec few people really care about: color - actually I could care, but since the thing needs a protection case [ otherwise it breaks like thin ice ] the "color" is not visible.

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    3. Re:When your product's stale ... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      ... paint it.

      yeah, almost pathetic.

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    4. Re:When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it still does bad, change the packaging and call it an Android knock-off. ;)

    5. Re:When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm shopping for my new PC and looking to exit Mac. I expect more of this kind of news and more neglect for the computer line.

    6. Re:When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... paint it.

      I still cannot understand why people want to pay so much of their hard earned moolah for products such as those from Apple.

    7. Re: When your product's stale ... by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Average people have annIQ of 90-100.

      This is basically a high functioning retard.

      Donâ(TM)t expect much.

      Wait, doesn't an average person have an iq of 100. I thought that was the point.

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    8. Re:When your product's stale ... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Or if you are the airlines you give your planes a new paint scheme.

    9. Re:When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... paint it.

      Best selling phone model - jealous much?

    10. Re:When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... they could make it fresh again by adding in a new 3.5mm headphone jack :)

    11. Re: When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wait, doesn't an average person have an iq of 100. I thought that was the point.

      Yes, the GP is just being an asshole.

      As you point out, an IQ of 100 is by definition an average IQ, which is far from a "high functioning retard".

    12. Re:When your product's stale ... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Being the useful span of the iPhone is normally about 4-5 years. Every 4 or 5 years Apple comes out with a multi-colored phone often for the "Kids"

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    13. Re:When your product's stale ... by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

      So, I go on Google News yesterday and the top stories are about rumors of Apple adding new colors to its iPhone line up, and yes, like most objective people my response is: so what?

      I get that the Apple fanboy culture wets itself over any news from the Cupertino empire, but new colors... that's a top news story on Google? Perhaps I've become a sardonic curmudgeon, but you've got to ask yourself how would news that any other company was offering some new colors for its products play in the news cycle? Use that as your perspective.

    14. Re:When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get that the Apple fanboy culture wets itself over any news from the Cupertino empire, but new colors...

      What I don't get is why most people wetting themselves over Apple news are people who hate Apple.

    15. Re:When your product's stale ... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      a solid implementation of a good idea over a weak attempt at a new one

      That's basically what made the first iPhones such a success. And I like that.

      Meamwhile however, a few high-end Chinese smart phones come with an all-screen front, yes, all-screen meaning no godawful "notch": the front facing camera slides up from the top of the phone when needed. That's solid implementation of a good idea (provided the mechanism holds up with prolonged use, and that you cared about all-screen fronts in the first place).

      Now put a good fingerprint scanner (i.e. the one the iPhone uses) under that screen, and you got yourself a phone worthy of some excitement.

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    16. Re: When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me the iPhone is easy to use and does everything I need. The main features I need are a phone, GPS, email, and porn access device and the iPhone is ideal for that.

    17. Re: When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you talking about the Samsung Galaxy?

    18. Re: When your product's stale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you talking about the Samsung Galaxy?

      U so dumb. Are you a lawyer for Samsung?

  4. Oh my, color me beige by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Inevitable, from the Kardashian's to the color of your phone. This is how we've become as a culture.

    1. Re:Oh my, color me beige by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Culture would includes fads and fashion.

      But this is supposed to be a tech news site. Instead we're finding out if a appliance can color coordinate with our shoes.

    2. Re:Oh my, color me beige by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Culture would includes fads and fashion.

      But this is supposed to be a tech news site. Instead we're finding out if a appliance can color coordinate with our shoes.

      Oh, so now it's an "appliance"?

      I thought the standard Slashdot meme was that Smartphones are just little computers we carry around with us, right?

    3. Re: Oh my, color me beige by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Most of Apple's revenue now comes from what we refer to as gadgets. Business news stories now start out sentences with "Gadget maker Apple has announced that ... "

    4. Re:Oh my, color me beige by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      We still have to keep track of the others, so we can mock and laugh at them. Soon they will be wanting colour coding for their custom genitals, you know they will, you just absolutely know they will.

      Apple we have absolutely nothing to announce, 'FUCK', 'er' colour coded phones, yeah. C'mon Apple where is the resin phone, where the bulk of parts of cast in resin, leaving the front add on panel for a screen and the back panel as battery, user removable and replaceable, the electronics safely locked away behind a solid resin, extremely damage resistant and definitely water proof.

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    5. Re:Oh my, color me beige by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Computers have been just appliances for a long time now. If you're a kid, you can get a colored case to bolt onto your appliance's chassis too. Look! our GE 3892 toaster is available in a plethora of colors!

    6. Re:Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apple is a over-priced poorly manufactured consumer electronics company. Like a Sony wannabe but with far far less SKUs. They even want to copy Sony and own their own film division now.

    7. Re:Oh my, color me beige by KiloByte · · Score: 2

      Oh, so now it's an "appliance"?

      It's an iPhone, so yes. Apple is pretty insistent on not giving the user access to anything Turing-complete, thus it merely has a computer inside, no different from that set of computers doing your car's injection or setting rotation speed of your washing machine.

      Tell me when I can install Perl and PostgreSQL and interact with them. Resources-wise, anything bigger than an Arduino can do so (there's a large gap between microcontrollers and stuff meant for general-purpose operating systems, the latter starting at 256-512MB ram). So all that power means nothing if you can't actually use it.

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    8. Re:Oh my, color me beige by GoTeam · · Score: 1

      You mean they make a toaster in THREE colors now?!! How much $$?

    9. Re: Oh my, color me beige by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Most of Apple's revenue now comes from what we refer to as gadgets. Business news stories now start out sentences with "Gadget maker Apple has announced that ... "

      That is a complete non-sequitur.

      And who is "we"?

    10. Re:Oh my, color me beige by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Computers have been just appliances for a long time now. If you're a kid, you can get a colored case to bolt onto your appliance's chassis too. Look! our GE 3892 toaster is available in a plethora of colors!

      Actually, the joke's on you.

      Steve Jobs' vision was that computers would eventually become "appliances". That is, something so ubiquitous that you don't even think of it as a distinct class of device. He said words to the effect of "Computers will be everywhere; but you won't recognize them as such. They will simply be a part of everyday life; universal and invisible." His Dynabook-inspired vision of the Macintosh fit into that vision.

      Keep in mind that Jobs said this around 1978, when the term "Embedded System" hadn't even been invented; so it was a bit more of a revolutionary idea than it seems now that those words have come true in spades. Now we just roll our eyes and say "Of course". Because it happened.

      Here's an article that talks about that philosophy.

      http://www.businessinsider.com...

      So, when you "accuse" Apple of making "Appliances", you are actually validating Jobs' vision of the future of computing...

    11. Re:Oh my, color me beige by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Oh, so now it's an "appliance"?

      It's an iPhone, so yes. Apple is pretty insistent on not giving the user access to anything Turing-complete, thus it merely has a computer inside, no different from that set of computers doing your car's injection or setting rotation speed of your washing machine.

      Tell me when I can install Perl and PostgreSQL and interact with them. Resources-wise, anything bigger than an Arduino can do so (there's a large gap between microcontrollers and stuff meant for general-purpose operating systems, the latter starting at 256-512MB ram). So all that power means nothing if you can't actually use it.

      Ok, so if an embedded system can't raise a Command-Prompt, then it isn't REALLY a Computer, right? Regardless of it running a fully multitasking Unix-based OS. Right.

      Oh, and all one has to do is fire up an XCode Dev. system, and you can make YOUR iPhone/iPad do things that Apple never imagined. You may not be able to distribute your creations via the iOS App Store; but you can certainly run your software on your OWN iPhone/iPad, or publish the Source to an iOS F/OSS Repository (or your own website), or you can publish a precompiled .ipa file to an iOS .ipa Repository (or your own website). Heck, you can even charge money for it.

      So, just because the Development IDE runs on another system (a Mac), doesn't mean that the iPhone/iPad isn't a general-purpose computer. It is STILL "programmable" in every sense of the word.

      As for "Turing Completeness", that's a laugh! Even the ARM CPU in Apple's Ax SoCs satisfies the criteria for Turing Completeness!

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    12. Re: Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jobs was an asshole

    13. Re: Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real geeks?

    14. Re: Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cares what jobs thinks or wanted.

    15. Re: Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop reaching.

    16. Re:Oh my, color me beige by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. Steve Jobs was just blathering about something already long done in industries of which he was utterly ignorant.

      Plenty of computer manufacturers make appliances that adhere to standards, unlike Apple. If Apple made toasters they would only take special Apple-shaped bread.

    17. Re:Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. I am just blathering about something

      FTFY

    18. Re:Oh my, color me beige by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. Steve Jobs was just blathering about something already long done in industries of which he was utterly ignorant.

      Plenty of computer manufacturers make appliances that adhere to standards, unlike Apple. If Apple made toasters they would only take special Apple-shaped bread.

      Yes, but the TERM "Embedded System" didn't exist in 1978.

      I know. I was an Embedded Systems Designer back then, We just didn't call the job that until later.

      And Steve wasn't talking about car computers or VCRs with microcontrollers in them. He was talking more about having something akin to an iPad, but integrated into your schooldesk or coffee table. IOW, he was thinking outside of the beige box, or in Apple's case (no pun), outside of the stylish beige typewriter-design.

    19. Re:Oh my, color me beige by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      except in 1978 several models of cars had embedded computers in them already. embedded controllers were used in machining and railroads too. I am just blathering about something

      FTFY

      Plus, in 1978, "Car computers" were little-more than simple state machines in their application. The vast majority simply accepted a trigger from a Hall-Effect sensor in the MECHANICAL Distributor, and an analog voltage from a throttle-position-sensor to compute what amounted to the same thing the mechanical vacuum advance had previously done; spark timing. That is all.

    20. Re:Oh my, color me beige by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      everyone knows toasters are supposed to be stainless steel colored, just ask your grandma

    21. Re: Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gets worse, they still don't have any concept of general file storage. They really are utterly useless.

    22. Re: Oh my, color me beige by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The technologically competent.

    23. Re:Oh my, color me beige by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Not visionary if people were envisioning such things in the 1950s, the pocket computers and communicators, cars with navigation computers that could speak, computers built into furniture or walls, etc. (Asimov, Heinlein, etc.).

      Note Jobs had no such successful product though his competitors did.

    24. Re:Oh my, color me beige by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Not visionary if people were envisioning such things in the 1950s, the pocket computers and communicators, cars with navigation computers that could speak, computers built into furniture or walls, etc. (Asimov, Heinlein, etc.).

      Note Jobs had no such successful product though his competitors did.

      No such successful product? By what measure?!?

      And a Sci Fi author imagining a thing such as a Dick Tracy watch or a Cellphone is a HELL of a long way from assembling the team and resources, and making the decisions to make it all ACTUALLY happen.

  5. "Stuff that Matters" my ass by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think this is a new low for Slashdot. How bad into minutiae of rumours for a crap phone can you get? The only site this oh-so-vital piece of news could fit on would be fashion for hipsters.

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    1. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      They went even lower, calling five colors a "plethora"

    2. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Well, five doesn't fit in two bits...

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    3. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vastly overpriced, cheaply made crap phone! There, fixed that for ya!

    4. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Huh? I thought smartfone was a primary focus of slashdot.
      Here's how slashdot looks to me on any given day:

          * Smartphone.
          * Look what Trunp did.
          * Huwai Xing Xing phone Xiao Mei
          * The Future is Javaswift on Blockchain + Kubonetes
          * Please Try Firefox One More Time

    5. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a bit more nuanced than that.

      I believe all the editors are male, so you do get a lot of science and technical stories. These are fine and in keeping with the vibe of slashdot.

      MSMASH on the other hand I believe is female, not because of the 'ms' but rather the tone of editorial written has more to do with culture and fashion than bites and bytes. The editor also has a tendency to attempt to incite emotional charges within us so we fight. I have advocated for the removal of msmash as I believe that centering on emotion is what brings in most of the trolls and issues slashdot is currently facing. Were the cancer to be removed we could return to a more peaceful and contemplative state on matters of actual importance.

    6. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I think this is a new low for Slashdot.

      You must be new here.

    7. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It _was_ a new low, but now the lead story is that microsoft discovered dark colors. Woohoo! C'mon editors, we'd rather see nothing than this stupid shit.

    8. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      Well, five doesn't fit in two bits...

      Five nickels fits in two bits.

    9. Re: "Stuff that Matters" my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it. All the females I know wouldn't have so many errors in their stories and not fix them despite being pointed out a dozen times.

      They're all fucking male trolls.

    10. Re:"Stuff that Matters" my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shave and hair cut...

  6. Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that phones nearing that $1k price tag don't seem to sell so well.
    ( No matter what lovely colors it comes in )

    The $700 variant will probably fare much better.

    However, is it just me or does no one really give a damn about the " new " iPhones / Androids that come out every year with not a whole lot of anything to get excited about ?

    Roll one out with a headphone jack, removable battery, the basic OS without all the GD bloatware, a physical switch that disables GPS, the MIC and Cameras and you might pique my interest. Selling me the same old sh*t with a colorful new paintjob just doesn't really do it for me I'm afraid.

    1. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by snapsnap · · Score: 1

      > headphone jack This especially and one like the original iPhone that was powerful enough to drive good headphones before Apple crippled it due to parents complaining. I love music, so it sucks to see music demphasized by Apple.

    2. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Insightful

      China will soon flood the US market with phones at cost to build their designed in China brand names.
      $350 will be the new $1100. Memory, cpu, gpu, camera lens count, headphone jack, battery hours will all be great from China at a new low price.
      Apps and software will go they way of 1980's IBM on the price of its hardware.
      Apple will have to design its way past China and set its own new price on design.
      Make a Performa phone?

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    3. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I make a good income and yet, I can't imagine spending $1k on a phone. a fucking PHONE, which is locked down, not a general purpose computer that I control, but something that I have temporary use of, and the vendor will EOL when it suits them.

      I guess the lesson is: the power of peer pressure makes even poor people think they -have- to have this thingie to be part of the in-crowd.

      but wow, a grand for a phone. and people are buying them. I am not unaware of this, but I'm continually amazed by how people can be conned out of their money so easily and for such a silly thing, too. yes, phones are needed, but not $1k phones! there's absolutely nothing ESSENTIAL on this phone that you simply must have. its all about style and being part of the in-crowd. and people do this. yes, I'm really amazed.

      (my phone is at least 4 gens back, some generica android thing, and I bought it as a refurb. and I'll stop using it when it STOPS running. so far, after 3 yrs of ownership, it still runs as fine as it did on day1, so I can't see the reason to throw it out)

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    4. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      China will soon flood the US market with phones at cost to build their designed in China brand names.

      $350 will be the new $1100. Memory, cpu, gpu, camera lens count, headphone jack, battery hours will all be great from China at a new low price.

      Apps and software will go they way of 1980's IBM on the price of its hardware.

      Apple will have to design its way past China and set its own new price on design.

      Make a Performa phone?

      Apple never has to play the race to the bottom game. And their customer-base is never interested when they try. Remember the iPhone 5c? Plastic body. Many colors. Budget iPhone. Somewhat lackluster sales, despite the lower price.

      So no iPhone Performa series...

    5. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about all of the above with an OS that doesn't spy on you, and lets you control what the apps can have access to, for less than $100?

    6. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by nnull · · Score: 1

      The problem is, Apple isn't offering anything breath taking with their new phone models. A super high quality camera? Maybe something cool like some stereoscopic 3D photography? How about that camera that can take out of focus shots and still be sharp with an adjustment afterwards (Remember that shoot now focus later camera? What the hell happened?)??

    7. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Will users see a $1000 color change as still worth $1000 when $350 looks like quality?

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    8. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by myid · · Score: 1

      a physical switch that disables GPS, the MIC and Cameras

      If possible, I'd also like the physical "privacy switch" to disable screen capture and keyboard capture - especially when I'm banking online.

    9. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sucks to be you ifags

    10. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      that phones nearing that $1k price tag don't seem to sell so well.

      What you should have learned is to not listen to your guts, but to look at the actual sales numbers.

    11. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by cmseagle · · Score: 1

      yes, $possessions are needed, but not $arbitraryDollarAmount $possesions! there's absolutely nothing ESSENTIAL on this $possession that you simply must have.

      Is a phone different from a car, computer, TV, etc.? Is it really such a shock to you that sometimes people spend more on a commodity than you think is worth it? People value things differently. That's not a new concept.

    12. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by swb · · Score: 2

      No offense, but you're one of the Slashdot types who:

      1) Values "control" over their device more than ease of use, performance or other utility markers other people like. You devalue a smartphone because of vendor practices designed to limit how you use the device.

      2) Price matters to you in spite of "making a good income" which presumably means sufficient disposable income that a high-cost smartphone isn't sacrificing your other economic choices.

      3) You see buying recent model smartphones as a moral flaw, that someone who buys them is indulging in status signaling and other similar kinds of flaunting behavior.

      Individually, if these are your personal values I don't think there's anything wrong with them. #3 I might be somewhat critical of, since it requires you to negate other people's utility values in their smartphone choices -- they may actually think that some feature or other makes it worthwhile and thus flaunting/status may not actually be a conscious decision on their part.

      Although it may actually be in some places a current smartphone is a beneficial status marker. I can see at least business situations where you may want to signal some kind of current-model smartphone status to people who may see it as a signal of sophistication in marketing or social media.

      For me, I owned all the Apple smartphones from 3G to 6 Plus because they actually were better (speed, features) from model to model. I also passed my year-old ones to my wife and her 2 year old ones went to my kid and/or for me to use in testing email connectivity, so they got 3 years of use out of them. I stopped this at 6 Plus because it stayed reasonably fast, my wife got a new phone out of cycle due problems with hers. I would still be using the 6 Plus if the battery hadn't quit and I don't see that any new feature my 8 Plus (FaceID, etc) was worth the premium for the X.

      Control hasn't ever been an issue for me. I think there are some dumb decisions made that restrict certain use cases, but they're not show stoppers because the phone does what I want it to well enough that it doesn't matter. That I can't run a Perl interpreter, sideload software or other stuff makes no difference to me.

      Price is an annoyance, but I'm willing to accept what I paid for it with a 3-ish year use out of it, plus I bought it direct from Apple so it is unlocked and I can use alternate SIMs without an issue overseas.

    13. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You can buy a used car which will go another 100k for $1,000, these days. You have to be certifiably insane to buy an thousand dollar phone unless you're well into fuck you money, since it's so easy to drop it on a pointy thing and destroy it.

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    14. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Will users see a $1000 color change as still worth $1000 when $350 looks like quality?

      No.

      They will see the uptick in features and performance as being worth the coin.

    15. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      That only works if the parts cost near $1000. A $350 parts list is still not going to get that performance needed to get beyond a $350 phone by another brand.
      Accept a drop in profit to buy into much better parts? Drop the price?
      Features like a new color and more notch?

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    16. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      That only works if the parts cost near $1000. A $350 parts list is still not going to get that performance needed to get beyond a $350 phone by another brand.

      Accept a drop in profit to buy into much better parts? Drop the price?

      Features like a new color and more notch?

      That assumes that two BOMs that add-up to the same total-cost are equivalent. That's a laughable assumption.

      I can tell who has never designed a hardware product before. Hint: It isn't me.

    17. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      This especially and one like the original iPhone that was powerful enough to drive good headphones before Apple crippled it due to parents complaining

      Not just parents, government and everyone else.

      And they have a right to - kids these days are starting to have hearing loss that you'd find in career musicians or seniors. And they're still kids. The next generation is growing up deaf.

      That's why volume limiters are imposed on all portable devices nowadays - kids are turning up the volume way too loud and they're going deaf exceeding the exposure limits of their ears.

      Given hearing loss takes years to manifest themselves, by the time you realize you have it, it's too late - you can't take back those years of listening to music just a bit too loud at that point.

    18. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      On the one hand, the competition and lower prices will be great. On the other, I'd trust Chinese corps even less than I trust normal, untrustworthy, international corps...

    19. Re: Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not early hearing loss, that's just teens being self absorbed assholes ignoring the adults.

    20. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re "the same total-cost are equivalent. "
      The competitors can get the same deal on made in China parts and as early in the design stages.
      When profit is not the motive at this time to build brand names quality can be pushed up.
      Unless Apple has its very own lower cost cpu, gpu, wireless and brings in a new lens set?

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    21. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by antdude · · Score: 1

      Ditto. I still use an used 4S. Yes, it's very slow and unsupported but it does basic stuff I care for.

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    22. Re: Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plug your iPhone into a computer and copy some files to it. Now use a range of apps to open those files.... I'll wait, but not forever because I know it's impossible.

      iPhone is a joke.

    23. Re:Guess they haven't learned the lesson yet by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      Re "the same total-cost are equivalent. "

      The competitors can get the same deal on made in China parts and as early in the design stages.

      When profit is not the motive at this time to build brand names quality can be pushed up.

      Unless Apple has its very own lower cost cpu, gpu, wireless and brings in a new lens set?

      Well, since Apple supplies both the "CPU" (SoC) and GPU (which may also be integrated into the SoC), it is virtually impossible to know what their "landed cost" is on those two very-significant components in the BOM total.

      And show me ONE Company AT ALL where Profit is NOT the "motive". And don't name some fake-altruistic "Not For Profit". In MOST cases, their big trick is to MAKE Profits, then DISTRIBUTE THEM to "Improvements" and "Bonuses" for the Board Members.

      What are you? Ten years old? Because you seem to have that level of disconnection from the real world of business.

  7. They should drop this idea by dohzer · · Score: 1

    Is this simply so that people use their iPhones without protective cases to show it off, and then are foreced to repair/replace more frequently when they drop them?

    1. Re:They should drop this idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds like an apple innovation.

    2. Re:They should drop this idea by sremick · · Score: 1

      Damnit, beat me to it. I was going to suggest the same thing.

    3. Re:They should drop this idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What the hell do you people do with your phones that you're always dropping them all the god damn time? It's a phone, not a basketball or a javelin.

      Stop chucking the thing around and maybe you won't be "forced to repair/replace more frequently".

    4. Re: They should drop this idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your breaking it wrong?

  8. $700 phones by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    That doesn't bode well for the price tag of the rumoured low-cost MacBook Air replacement.

    Add the exchange rate on top of that and I bet the new "budget" MacBook is going to cost nearly 1500 Canadian dollars.

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    1. Re:$700 phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iPhone was usually $650 until Apple bumped it up to $700 with the iPhone 8.

      For the price of an iPad Pro, you can get a Windows gaming laptop. A low-cost MacBook Air would probably be $800. A low-cost MacBook at $1000. (No clue if Apple will still use a dual-core chip or finally upgrade to four- or six-core.)

      Apple has never been low-cost and never will be, no matter how cheap of components they use.

    2. Re:$700 phones by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      price doesn't matter, what colors are available?!

    3. Re:$700 phones by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Apple has never been low-cost and never will be, no matter how cheap of components they use.

      iPod shuffle.
      Mac mini.

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    4. Re:$700 phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The current Mac Mini uses laptop parts and costs $500. There are Windows i3 laptops in the $350 range that are equivalent to it. And you could usually find dual-core i3 desktops for about $400, but with more RAM and storage (wouldn't be fair to compare it to recent quad-core Coffee Lake or Ryzen since that's a new development). And the parts inside are four years out of date; update your products Apple.

      The iPod Shuffle 2GB model cost $50 from what I could tell. Generic MP3 players cost $20-$30 with 8 GB of storage and slots for microSD cards.

      Apple TV was price competitive at one time, but Apple apparently decided to go up-market even more and raised it to $180.

    5. Re:$700 phones by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      A bit unfair to compare the Mac mini's i5 with i3 laptops, but otherwise your other points are valid. It's a shame Apple not only sells computers with mechanical HDDs in 2018, but still using 4200RPM/5400RPM? That's like them kicking the people who just bought that computer.

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  9. Color IS NOT NEWS /.! by gordguide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What else to add? Is /. now "News for Fashionistas? Does a chipset setting determine the colour? Because if it doesn't, this is garbage news.

    1. Re:Color IS NOT NEWS /.! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it do though! I wouldnt want my chip to be big blue!

    2. Re:Color IS NOT NEWS /.! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      What else to add? Is /. now "News for Fashionistas? Does a chipset setting determine the colour? Because if it doesn't, this is garbage news.

      The fact that colour is news, IS the news. Are we running out of differentiating tech features in the most popular gadget in the world that we're reduced to making it in various colours?

  10. Colors? Big deal.... by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...first thing most people do is slap a case on them so you can barely see what color they are. It's not like these are iMacs, y'know.

  11. That worked so well by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    for a camera company. Addicted consumers always buy extra colors.
    Every shop has to buy a set of color iPhone in packs? Work hard to sell the colors nobody wants to buy?

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  12. No mobile phone is worth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what the current large players are asking for them. In a few years when desktop and laptop sales are truly tanking because everyone has flocked to the mobile phone that does everything but clean you arse, they will have a captive audience to continue to tick up the prices yearly, and the good little boys and girls will open up their wallets and give Uncle Apple and Uncle Samsung all their money for a piece of technology that doesn't do too much more than the day the first one came on the scene 11 years ago. A fool and his money are soon parted...

    1. Re:No mobile phone is worth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the mobile phone that does everything but clean you arse

      There's a crApp for that.

  13. Rainbow colors will be standard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any other color is just $995.00 more.

  14. Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberry by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We need to bring back the iMac G3 colors. Also, have the phone be round like the puck mouse.

  15. Re:Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quite right. The best Macs I ever had was the iMac G3 in grey and the toilet seat iBook, both running 9.2

  16. What does it matter... by Alypius · · Score: 1

    ...when it will likely just go in a case anyway?

    1. Re:What does it matter... by sremick · · Score: 2

      It encourages people to NOT use cases, which increases the breakage (and replacement) rate. 3) PROFIT!

  17. Re:Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberr by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    We can put a fold out handle on the back of the phone!

  18. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really? You mean that my phone, which I have to keep in a protective case which will hide th color, can be orange?!?! Z0mg!!

  19. Apple goes full shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Story at 11....

  20. Not made in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want a phone that's not made in China.

    And if it's made in the US, that's even better.

    1. Re:Not made in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, say for the sake of argument we compare america and china in terms of quality

      China - they put windsheild washer into toothpaste they sold to save a buck, organ harvest their political prisoners, and attempt insane medical experiments on human beings which they consider to be resources instead of individuals

      America - put posilac into the milk supply knowing it was dangerous (your still drinking it), make medical aid impossible causing death to anyone who is poor, used black people for human experiments along with children, stole children from immigrant families illegally crossing the border ...garbage nations both of them in equal measure, and both with a spineless population that wouldn't dare blink when their masters whip them

      Just to give you an outside view of how much people think of 'quality' when they think either china OR america

    2. Re:Not made in China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  21. Mobile phone customers are defending from abuse. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that the mobile phone fad is rapidly dying. In the past, people felt they had to pay more than $1,000 for every new iPhone. For those who lacked confidence in themselves, a new iPhone was a status symbol.

    Apple CEO Tim Cook does not have nearly the ability of Steve Jobs to find good new features, get them implemented, and communicate them clearly.

    iPhones have batteries that can't be easily replaced. The batteries lose capacity slowly, making the phone operate slowly, and go bad within approximately 4 years. Apparently Apple wants that because people buy new phones.

    Slowly people without much technical knowledge are starting to understand some of the underlying issues, and react sensibly. Before it was easier to abuse them.

    Google is extremely abusive, in my opinion. Google's Android operating system doesn't allow updating to new versions. Again, that is an extremely destructive way of manipulating people to buy new phones.

  22. Does it matter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll be all covered up by cases anyway

  23. So stage two is to copyright Red, blue and green? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and do they come with rounded corners?

  24. The Battery Problem by KidSock · · Score: 1

    If they don't fix the battery drain problem (which AFAIK they have not actually acknowledged as a "problem" and it absolutely most definitely is) I will be dumping iPhone for sure. Bring on Android.

    1. Re: The Battery Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lower priced battery replacement was their admitting they throttled CPU in your best interests. You can follow one of the 78 class actions for what they'll admit in Court.

  25. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GO APPLE!!! I think I heard Steve turn in his grave....

    1. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GO APPLE!!! I think I heard Steve turn in his grave....

      Yeah, because he never presented any devices in colors. Or iPod socks.

  26. yeah but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The color of the buyers won't change, they'll still only come in a rich white.

  27. Cheap as chips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How 'bout Apple make the external iPhone casing from recycled plastic water bottles, make the plastic colored, like the iMacs from the 1990s, and sell them in mini-marts for $10 each?

    1. Re: Cheap as chips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haaaave you met Apple?

  28. Colors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some colors are more equal than others.

  29. Re:Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On if the phone shell can be translucent too.

  30. Color's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is the big innovation from Apple?

    My heavens, the fanboys are going to be wetting themselves over this

  31. Re:Mobile phone customers are defending from abuse by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    wot? I've updated the Android version in my moto X pure; it's what the manufacturer allows or not

  32. Re:Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberr by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    Zune brown.

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  33. Re:Mobile phone customers are defending from abuse by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    Google's Android operating system doesn't allow updating to new versions. Again, that is an extremely destructive way of manipulating people to buy new phones.

    Google is trying to fix this situation with Project Treble.

    tl;dr, Android's architecture is more abstracted now, so new versions of the system will remain compatible with old drivers. Which makes much easier to develop updates.

  34. apple is a weird cult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Phone color options making headlines? That is stupid

  35. This is aimed at the uber apple sheep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They won't be able to control themselves and have to get one of each color to have a phone that matches their outfit on the day. Like those people who buy one of every single color of a shoe like converse chucks and have a different shoe for each outfit.

  36. Innovative by polyp2000 · · Score: 2

    Wow, consumer electronics available in a variety of different colors . Only to be concealed with ugly rubber protective cases that also come in a variety of garish colors. Apples ability to push the boundaries never ceases to amaze me.

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    1. Re:Innovative by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      Just wait, they'll file a design patent to make sure Samsung can't copy their colors!

  37. Next will be about an Outlook.com theme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Surely we can go lower!

  38. Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...we'll be removed several useful features you currently rely upon to accommodate this groundbreaking premise.

  39. Re:Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberr by bobby · · Score: 1

    We need to bring back the iMac G3 colors. Also, have the phone be round like the puck mouse.

    And also have no buttons!

  40. DC vs Marvel? by sjbe · · Score: 1

    It _was_ a new low, but now the lead story is that microsoft discovered dark colors.

    I guess that makes Microsoft into DC versus Apple's Marvel...

  41. iPhone color has made frontpage /. by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

    No words.

  42. You mean I can now get an iPhone in any color I want? What a great day! I can't wait! Wowzers! Neato!

    I going to cr--m in my jeans!

    In the words of Dana Carvey, NOT! (in the voice of Borat!)

  43. What "lesson"? by sjbe · · Score: 1

    that phones nearing that $1k price tag don't seem to sell so well.

    Really? It's been Apple's best selling device every single week last quarter. To be clear they sold 52.2 MILLION phones and the iPhone X was the best seller among those.

    If that's your idea of "not selling well" give me some of that kind of "failure"...

    However, is it just me or does no one really give a damn about the " new " iPhones / Androids that come out every year with not a whole lot of anything to get excited about ?

    It's just you. Apple literally sells tens of millions of them and Android devices collectively sell even more units so obviously people give a damn. If it's not your particular brand of vodka I don't have any quarrel with you on that but don't pretend no one cares about the smartphone upgrades.

    1. Re:What "lesson"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apple is still shit.

  44. Re:Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberr by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    or floppy drive!

  45. Re:Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine, Lime and Strawberr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not? That's actually a good idea.

    Then again it doesn't really matter what color the phone is when you'll just be slapping a case on it anyway.

  46. who cares about an evil and abusive corporation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and its products, it's so sad to /. turned into a platform for ,corporate advertisement

    Apple, and its ilk, imho, are just greedy selfish people screwing the planet

  47. Alternative suggestion, 1...2% of the price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. get masking tape, cover display & button(s) of your old phone (ophone)
    2. buy a can of spray paint, colored to yout desire, e.g. matching your Ferrari, favorite food, or morning urine
    3. get some old newspaper to cover the ground, go outside ad wait for no winds.
    4. feel like an anarchist while spraypainting the ophone
    5. donate the remaining 90% full paint can to charity and feel good about it
    6. Paint has dried by now, remove tape and feel good about ypur new PaintPhone!

  48. But cases... by eepok · · Score: 1

    I would care, but I'm not so money-laden that I don't cover my phone in a case anyway. Get me slim, grippy orange case and I'll be happy... but I don't need my phone to be orange if I'm just going to cover it.

  49. Jefe do you know what a plethora is? by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    because I would hate for someone to tell me they have a Plethora of new colors when they do not know what a Plethora is!

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  50. Re:Mobile phone customers are defending from abuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wot? I've updated the Android version in my moto X pure;

    Are you sure? https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...

  51. "exciting" by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    That's all smartphone companies have left. "new" colors, gimmicks in hopes of continuing to push dated phones. What is a smartphone? A rectangular slab of glass, metal and plastic, with a camera, memory, processor. To put lipstick on a pig, they gimmick them up with pop up cameras, multiple cameras and "exciting" colors, in hopes to keep jacking the price up.

  52. I don't need new colors... by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    I don't need new colors...
    I also don't need thinner.

    I need:
    1. Reliability - Apple does very well with this.
    2. Long battery charge - Apple does well with this.
    3. Very Long battery life span - So-so.
    4. Option to not have it be a phone (e.g., be iPodTouch - not everyone actually needs a phone)

  53. Waiting for the inevitable paintgate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When apple cheaps out on the painting process and all the fanbois phones chip.

  54. Mah tiny hands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A 6.1" screen on the entry level model? But but, how will I use it with one hand??

  55. Re:Colors? Big deal.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...first thing most people do is slap a case on them so you can barely see what color they are

    Ah, but companies are being sure to create phones with no bezel so no case could possibly fit or protect the phone. That way you'll have to replace it more often.

    The first thing I did with my iPhone 6 (work provided) was slap an Otterbox Commuter case on it .. rendering it about twice as thick, and considerably more protected. Because since it was expensive, I'd rather keep it intact instead of being fractionally thinner.

    For me, I can't even begin to fathom why shaving off another 10th of a millimeter makes the phone better in any way. And every time Apple removes yet another very useful plug, I just roll my eyes. Sorry, no, the headphone is a useful jack, and moving to wireless only was idiotic.

    Most Android is shit because it's been so heavily screwed up but the OEM that non only will you never see updates, but you're now locked into yet another company's ecosystem (fuck you, Samsung).

    So, Android is shit, Microsoft is shit, and Apple is stagnating and removing useful stuff in an attempt to make it shit.

    We've pretty much reached "peak phone". I know I sure as fuck have.

    But, apparently the tech industry is so fixated on this shit that five colors is now a 'plethora' ... and they're all breathless and fawning over it. And yet, I don't see an article about new and useful features. Just that you can now get it a few more colors.

  56. Re:Mobile phone customers are defending from abuse by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    yes I'm quite sure of the version of Android running. your link is about false patch reporting which is another issue

  57. Does the color matter - by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 1

    - if you're putting it in a case?

  58. Swift & ObjectiveC aren't Turing complete? by Brannon · · Score: 1

    News to me.

    1. Re:Swift & ObjectiveC aren't Turing complete? by KiloByte · · Score: 2

      I'm talking about end user, not about a developer with a purchased license running some IDE on another machine, not even able to copy that program to a friend.

      For me, a computer is something that can run arbitrary computing tasks. It's usually done in some sort of container with parts you don't have access to: on Windows, you can't mess with the system, on an Intel PC running Linux there's some supervising code at ring -17 spying on you, but inside that contained jail you are free to do what you want. User interface might be a touch screen, a ssh login over ethernet, a query dispatcher for a cluster, or perhaps even a deer hide tarpaulin for sending smoke signals, but there is one. One of biggest rules for Apple's App Store is not providing this ability.

      For me, a computer is something that lets you do computing. An appliance might have a computer inside but doesn't expose it.

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      The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
  59. FIVE STARS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the most important story ever posted on SlashDot!

  60. How about your BMW M3? (cite) by Brannon · · Score: 1

    "I had a dinan m3 once"

    So iPhone X owners are getting conned out of their money by paying $1K for a "silly phone"--but you owned a >$50K BMW M3? What kind of douchey fucking moron drives around in an expensive BMW with expensive aftermarket mods and then criticizes people for what phone they bought?

    I don't own a car at all. I guess I could call you a sheeple who was conned out of their money so you could drive around in a status symbol--but I won't because everyone spends money on luxury items, and people value those items very differently.

    Grow up.

  61. I don't have a car at all... by Brannon · · Score: 1

    so I guess that makes me holier than you? So if I spend that $1K I saved on not buying the world's shittiest car--would that make us even?