I've had Android for a long time, and I've never felt monetized like I do with Apple. Say you want to transfer your mp3 library to your phone and use it with different media apps. With Apple I've found that you can find file transfer apps, but then they only work with certain other apps. The only other alternative is to use iTunes; and of course you see a lot of Apple advertising if you do that.
With Android I just plug the phone into a laptop or use one of many file manager apps with a (standard) transfer protocol and point any media app I want to the files.
But you're also the guy that claims that you HAVE to develop for iOS; so you have a pretty "victimized" view of things, in general.
This study is problematic in that it is comparing two very unlike things. Android is simply an operating system that is designed to work on a variety of different smart phone hardware designs whereas the iPhone has one singular user interface on one type of hardware. Android folks aren't necessarily wed to one smart phone maker or another. When it's time for me to replace my Android, I simply look for the best bang for my dollar. Consequently, I don't often replace my phone with the same manufacturer. A better comparison would be brand loyalty. Look at the people who might be loyal to a flagship Android brand like Samsung or LG and compare that to Apple.
Every Android phone I have bought had a comparable iPhone at the same price. I buy Android phones because once I do, I don't have to use anything Google if I want. When I buy Apple, I know I'm going to have to use iTunes for something eventually. Then I'll be using Apple software and seeing Apple advertising, and that makes me feel locked in.
What Apple advertising?
Apple doesn't do in-product Advertising in their own products. There are NO pro-Apple ads IN iTunes.
I converted my whole family to the Moto X family. V4 seems to have been "good enough" - my kids finally stopped whining about the iphones I was never going to buy them - and I'm happy with my v5.
So, you're bragging that your family would rather have an Android phone than NOTHING, right?
So, they are basing that headline on FIVE whole percentage points?
What was the margin of error in the Survey? Most I've seen are +/- at least 2 or 3 points.
Sorry, completely unconvinced; plus we're talking an aggregate of dozens of Android brands at all imaginable price points, vs. ONE brand of fairly premium-priced phones.
I'd say that, if you tightened that study up a bit, you'd find quite a bit MORE "brand loyalty" on the Apple side.
But that wasn't what the "researchers" were LOOKING FOR, was it?
It was a design flaw to create a keyboard that couldn't be cleaned in the first place. More of Apple putting form over function. Besides.. there are laptops with waterproof keyboards already, how is a dust free keyboard even eligible for a new patent?
It was a design flaw for God to create you.
Honestly, my work Samsung laptop has keys that are completely un-cleanable. It is also non-water-resistant, causing me to now have to carry-around an external keyboard, because the built-in keyboard now has a few non-functional keys, due to a spilled splash of coffee. And the laptop has to be disassembled down to the very last screw to replace the keyboard.
Yes, I know Mac laptops are the same in the replacement needing almost complete disassembly. One of the few things I don't like about Apple's "unibody" laptop design.
bom, gerber files with full source code. And the photomask. To be fully serviceable. Also user manuals for any and all custom IC's.
That would be just great!
Ha!
You can't even get that kind of documentation from the chip manufacturers themselves for many SoCs, without signing an NDA and showing them what Project(s) you have in mind.
food is great out here, we're not all one culture, the only down-side other than house prices is the ageism in hiring. once over 40, its hard to find and keep tech jobs.
That's true in the Midwest, where I live, too. I had to take a job writing (shudder) Windows ERP SW.
Have you ever actually been to WV or are you just regurgitating internet talking points?
I've been there! What do I win?
I hope that someday I can retire there. It's a breathtakingly beautiful place.
If you think a strip mine is beautiful. I hope you don't mind bottled water, unless you like coal sludge, of course. It's so beautiful there that everyone has to crush up and shoot Oxycontin to get through the day.
It IS actually beautiful country. My sister and ex-brother-in-law lived there for a time.
However, the operant word is "Retire"; because, although "breathtakinly beautiful", there is essentially NO WORK. My sister and B-I-L were both degreed nurses; but she simply couldn't find work, and he ended up working part-time as a DJ in a Roller-Rink...
It's principles that really count, the good news being that most of us share far, far more principles than we differ on.
Todd Rundgren has an EXCELLENT song addressing that exact point (that we are all more alike than different, regardless of politics, religion, etc). The Title is "Family Values", on his solo album from 1995, "The Individualist".
It was an "Enhanced" CD, with an (interactive!) video animation to go with each song. I can't find the one for "Family Values"; but here's a version of the song that is VERY close to the one on the album. Sounds just like a slight remix, but close enough.
Ninety percent of all Nexus 5X and 6P phones have already bootlooped. There is no point in supporting the tiny community of Nexus users whose phones still work,
Well, hopefully this will silence all the Fandroids that crow "Well, my Nexus still gets updates..."
And Google is being pretty non-apologetic in all this:
"It's 2018, and we're beyond the two years of major OS update support these devices were promised, so this isn't hugely surprising."
Interesting that an iPhone 5s can still load IOS 11...
Yes. How do you do that? 1) Embrace (the fundamental ideas behind the competitor's product). BTW, this means you get to redefine what those "fundamental ideas" are and since you (MS) are the biggest gorilla in the banana field your definitions count more. Open Document Format anyone? 2) Extend (how the fundamental ideas are used and implemented) Of course you (MS) WILL say anyone can use the fundamental ideas anyway they want (you wouldn't want anyone to complain that you are squashing competition) and you WON'T be expected to adhere to anyone else's methods. 3) Extinguish (your participation in the fundamental ideas). Oops! We (MS) found out we can't turn a profit here, or it's just too hard, or we (MS) will just continue using these out of date definitions in our massive implementation of whatever it is we just stomped on and the rest of the world need to adhere to our specs from now on (because we are STILL the biggest gorilla in the banana field).
Once MS has Linux on every Windows machine then THEY control Linux because everything will need to comply with their architecture.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
This.
I have been saying EXACTLY this since I first heard about MS' "Sudden befriending" of Linux.
Not to reply to my own comment, but this Music Librarian has a nice interface, similar to the iTunes Columnar "Song Browser" View. Available for several platforms, including macOS.
Only downside is it doesn't offer an iOS Remote (although it will Upload songs to iOS devices, which is a nice touch) :
So, if iTunes goes away....and I wouldn't mind a better interface, but will there be anything left on MacOS that allows me to catalog, rip and manage MY music local?
That's the laugh: There have pretty much ALWAYS been alternatives to iTunes for macOS available from 3rd Parties. I happen to like iTunes; so I don't have much experience with these Applications, but I know they exist, and have for years in one form or another:
Kodi: This was formerly the XBMC Project. It has been available on multiple platforms for years and years. It and Plex (below) are the heavy-hitters in this world, IMHO.
Plex: Originally grew out of the XBMC Project, as a Mac-specific version of same.
Probably the most full-featured Media Server/Player Combination. Too many features and platforms to mention here. Also check out the companion macOS PlexAmp lightweight Player.
VLC: Plays anything that even PRETENDS to be a music or video file! Versions available back to OS X 10.0 Cheetah, FFS!!! I don't know if it can Rip; but it sure can PLAY!!!
Ugh... Had the flu last month. I need like a year off, work is getting tiring.
A month in the Bahamas is sounding really good right now. You down? I kid, of course, but only because there's no way I could afford to miss the work right now.
Yeah, I ABSOLUTELY hear you!
I had the flu last month, too... Took almost a month to get over it, and I feel like I've even had a slight relapse last weekend. Yeah, I feel like I am forcing thoughts out of a very tiny hole in a tube of really thick brain-paste. Doesn't help that work is a little slow right now.
A month in the Bahamas sounds REALLY tempting; but I can't do the logistics, either...;-)
Sigh. We're just Work-Bots; you and I. MidaSwell face it.
"Who needs iTunes to copy a file?" - I was talking about copying a sound file to use as a ringtone using drag-and-drop from a PC. It still won't work.
"What are "approved headphones"?" - those who work with Apple's Bluetooth stack. Every other device (not only headphones) that connects to Android devices but no Apple are arguably "not approved" through the Apple Bluetooth stack. I remember an OBD II device made for an Opel Zafira. There were two readily available on the market. One was around 40-ish dollars but was not compatible with Apple phones (worked under all three Android phones I tested), and the "Apple compatible" device was 120 dollars and had similar feature set.
"What do you mean "Sync with your PC"? Sync WHAT?" - anything really, you name it. Ringtones, music, documents, pictures, whatever. I plug my Android devices to my PC through USB and I can do whatever I want on its storage, even advanced stuff if I enable Developer mode. I wasn't talking about e-mail really.
As for transfers between iPhones and Android devices, forget bout trying that. I lost count of the times I had to resort to alternative transfer methods to send some documentation from my phone to a colleague's phone. really, the two devices were next to each other and we had to upload the files to the cloud and share links.
Who cares about ringtones? What are you, 12 years old? You said "a file". Not "A ringtone." Kind of a different thing.
What are you talking about with the "not approved through the Apple Bluetooth stack?" Are you talking about iOS not supporting the PROPRIETARY AptX protocol? No, they support the INDUSTRY-STANDARD (and far superior) AAC Protocol, as well as the shitty standard Bluetooth Protocol.
Wait! First you're talking Headphones, then you switch to talking about a Car Diagnostics Device?!? Make up my mind!!!
I can tell I'm never going to reach a conclusion with this discussion; because you will just keep topic-hopping.
Link 1: There's no way they laid all the groundwork for switching from Java to the Java-derived DALVIK and whipped together the Android API and SDK based on DALVIK (which would have needed to be created from scratch given that Danger used native Java APIs and the Java SDK) in the handful of months between the iPhone being unveiled and the first Android phone coming to market. There wasn't even enough time to get FCC approval and tool for production in that time, and the addition of a touch interface would have necessitated both re-approval and re-tooling.
Link 2: That's Samsung, not Android. Samsung could well have done the same with Windows Phone, or even their own OS.
I feel like we've had this conversation before.
1. They HAD the Android OS together in some form with a Keyboard-based Interface before the iPhone debuted. All they had to do is re-tool the GUI bits. Heck, they didn't even really have to source ANYTHING. Who's the "They"? Android doesn't spec HARDWARE, per se. So, if the "They" is Google, THEY didn't even BUILD the first Nexus phone (the Nexus 1), that would be HTC. And THAT wasn't available until THREE YEARS after the first iPhone was shown to the Public. PLENTY of time for HTC to source a touchscreen, work with Google on the GUI, and apply for and receive "Agency Approvals":
As for Point #2, fair enough. But Samsung was a VERY important "partner" for Google in the Android world, even BEFORE the iPhone. They would have received first-class access to Google's UI engineers. And that, paired with the fact that Samsung is one of the few actual Touchscreen OEMs in the world, gave them a jump on almost everyone. But even with THAT advantage, their first Touchscreen phone, the romantically-named SGH-T919 (which looks pretty much nothing like their iPhone-clone), wasn't released until "late in 2008", almost 2 years after the first iPhone was revealed.
As near as I can determine, Samsung's 100% iPhone-clone depicted in my "Link #2" is the Galaxy S, which was announced in March 2010, again, THREE YEARS after the debut of the first iPhone (February 2007). PLENTY of time to "copy the iPhone, pixel for pixel.":
Have we had this discussion before? Yes. And we will have it again; so long as you keep taking the entirely indefensible position that phones like the Galaxy S are not 100% cold-copies of the iPhone.
No, the curved corners and usually 10% of over scan that CRTs had. until some of the last gen CRTs that had squared off corners and very little over scan
NTSC has always been a rectangular image, but early CRTs were round, all the corners were cropped off by the tube. As time went on CRTs got more rectangular but even into the 80's still had curved corners. Then into the late 90's we got squared off corners and minimal overscan.
With old school CRTs they were doing the exact same thing that today's phones with curved corners are doing. The OS is generating and sending a rectangular image to the screen. The screen is displaying whatever it can, cropping off rounded corners or notches. If you ever see screen shots from these devices with curved corners or notches the screen shots are perfectly rectangular with no curved corners or notches.
This is why you see shit like the cropped off time on that one demo phone. as far as the OS is concerned it is sending an image to a rectangular screen. The screen is displaying what it can.
We went from unpure garbage over scanning and cropping in the analog era to pixel perfect with no over scan in the digital era, just to have retards bring back an artifact of the analog era.
Some of your pedantic diatribe is correct; but the Macintosh and Lisa PRODUCED an image with rounded-corners, and the image was WAY underscanned. It had NOTHING to do with the CRT's geometry or scan-pattern or ANYTHING. IIRC, if you cranked the brightness up on the Lisa's screen so you could see the actual scan-pattern, it extended BEYOND the rounded corners of the IMAGE.
Breaking Touch ID requires getting a fingerprint, something you can't just get off someone's Facebook profile.
Breaking Face ID just requires grabbing a bunch of pictures and having access to a 3D printer.
Using something that by definition is publicly viewable as authentication is braindead. It's essentially requiring a username and then the username again. It's fundamentally broken and can never be fixed.
You do realize those articles are from when the technique was first created, right? They've had four months to refine it.
Face ID is completely broken at this point and can't be fixed. It's a dumb idea by a dumb company.
Go to Hell, Anonymous COWARD.
It's a LOT more than just "anyone with access to a 3D Printer", fucktard.
I guess you can just load a 2D picture of something up into Photoshop, hit "Print", and out pops an accurate 3D representation of the picture.
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I've had Android for a long time, and I've never felt monetized like I do with Apple. Say you want to transfer your mp3 library to your phone and use it with different media apps. With Apple I've found that you can find file transfer apps, but then they only work with certain other apps. The only other alternative is to use iTunes; and of course you see a lot of Apple advertising if you do that.
With Android I just plug the phone into a laptop or use one of many file manager apps with a (standard) transfer protocol and point any media app I want to the files.
But you're also the guy that claims that you HAVE to develop for iOS; so you have a pretty "victimized" view of things, in general.
This study is problematic in that it is comparing two very unlike things. Android is simply an operating system that is designed to work on a variety of different smart phone hardware designs whereas the iPhone has one singular user interface on one type of hardware. Android folks aren't necessarily wed to one smart phone maker or another. When it's time for me to replace my Android, I simply look for the best bang for my dollar. Consequently, I don't often replace my phone with the same manufacturer. A better comparison would be brand loyalty. Look at the people who might be loyal to a flagship Android brand like Samsung or LG and compare that to Apple.
Exactly!
Every Android phone I have bought had a comparable iPhone at the same price. I buy Android phones because once I do, I don't have to use anything Google if I want. When I buy Apple, I know I'm going to have to use iTunes for something eventually. Then I'll be using Apple software and seeing Apple advertising, and that makes me feel locked in.
What Apple advertising?
Apple doesn't do in-product Advertising in their own products. There are NO pro-Apple ads IN iTunes.
What a moron.
I converted my whole family to the Moto X family. V4 seems to have been "good enough" - my kids finally stopped whining about the iphones I was never going to buy them - and I'm happy with my v5.
So, you're bragging that your family would rather have an Android phone than NOTHING, right?
Got it.
So, they are basing that headline on FIVE whole percentage points?
What was the margin of error in the Survey? Most I've seen are +/- at least 2 or 3 points.
Sorry, completely unconvinced; plus we're talking an aggregate of dozens of Android brands at all imaginable price points, vs. ONE brand of fairly premium-priced phones.
I'd say that, if you tightened that study up a bit, you'd find quite a bit MORE "brand loyalty" on the Apple side.
But that wasn't what the "researchers" were LOOKING FOR, was it?
It was a design flaw to create a keyboard that couldn't be cleaned in the first place. More of Apple putting form over function. Besides.. there are laptops with waterproof keyboards already, how is a dust free keyboard even eligible for a new patent?
It was a design flaw for God to create you.
Honestly, my work Samsung laptop has keys that are completely un-cleanable. It is also non-water-resistant, causing me to now have to carry-around an external keyboard, because the built-in keyboard now has a few non-functional keys, due to a spilled splash of coffee. And the laptop has to be disassembled down to the very last screw to replace the keyboard.
Yes, I know Mac laptops are the same in the replacement needing almost complete disassembly. One of the few things I don't like about Apple's "unibody" laptop design.
bom, gerber files with full source code. And the photomask. To be fully serviceable. Also user manuals for any and all custom IC's.
That would be just great!
Ha!
You can't even get that kind of documentation from the chip manufacturers themselves for many SoCs, without signing an NDA and showing them what Project(s) you have in mind.
Please, please, please make it illegal to manufacture or offer for sale any device into which a battery has been glued.
Single issue vote from me. e-waste ain't no laughin' matter, yo.
Well, then Apple is safe. They have used adhesive strips that are designed to "release" when stretched, like 3M "Command" Adhesive.
Tape is not glue, per se.
I'm an embedded engineer and have replaced dozens of bga, dip, pga and abcxyz chips in the last 30 years (I started in my preteens).
You're a liar.
PGA (Programmable Gate Array) is NOT a PACKAGE-type; so you are just sticking terms you have seen together.
Plus, a REAL Embedded Engineer would CAPITALIZE the Acronyms for "Ball Grid Array" and "Dual In-Line" packages.
So, STFU and FOAD, and let the adults talk.
Full disclosure: I AM an embedded engineer.
Modern electronics is becoming impossible to repair, by its nature
Replacing a BGA chip is not feasible with normal electronic tech tools
I've been saying this since this idiotic legislation has been being pushed by know-nothing legislators.
food is great out here, we're not all one culture, the only down-side other than house prices is the ageism in hiring. once over 40, its hard to find and keep tech jobs.
That's true in the Midwest, where I live, too. I had to take a job writing (shudder) Windows ERP SW.
I've been there! What do I win?
If you think a strip mine is beautiful. I hope you don't mind bottled water, unless you like coal sludge, of course. It's so beautiful there that everyone has to crush up and shoot Oxycontin to get through the day.
It IS actually beautiful country. My sister and ex-brother-in-law lived there for a time.
However, the operant word is "Retire"; because, although "breathtakinly beautiful", there is essentially NO WORK. My sister and B-I-L were both degreed nurses; but she simply couldn't find work, and he ended up working part-time as a DJ in a Roller-Rink...
It's principles that really count, the good news being that most of us share far, far more principles than we differ on.
Todd Rundgren has an EXCELLENT song addressing that exact point (that we are all more alike than different, regardless of politics, religion, etc). The Title is "Family Values", on his solo album from 1995, "The Individualist".
Definitely worth a listen! Here ya go:
https://genius.com/Todd-rundgr...
It was an "Enhanced" CD, with an (interactive!) video animation to go with each song. I can't find the one for "Family Values"; but here's a version of the song that is VERY close to the one on the album. Sounds just like a slight remix, but close enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Enjoy!
Ninety percent of all Nexus 5X and 6P phones have already bootlooped. There is no point in supporting the tiny community of Nexus users whose phones still work,
Well, hopefully this will silence all the Fandroids that crow "Well, my Nexus still gets updates..."
And Google is being pretty non-apologetic in all this:
"It's 2018, and we're beyond the two years of major OS update support these devices were promised, so this isn't hugely surprising."
Interesting that an iPhone 5s can still load IOS 11...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Go, Google, go!
I like having root access to my wife's devices.
So do all those App publishers...
Yours not suggesting shit from apple are you. That stuff is crap.
That's why it CONSISTENTLY blows away the competition, performance-wise.
Yes. How do you do that?
1) Embrace (the fundamental ideas behind the competitor's product). BTW, this means you get to redefine what those "fundamental ideas" are and since you (MS) are the biggest gorilla in the banana field your definitions count more. Open Document Format anyone?
2) Extend (how the fundamental ideas are used and implemented) Of course you (MS) WILL say anyone can use the fundamental ideas anyway they want (you wouldn't want anyone to complain that you are squashing competition) and you WON'T be expected to adhere to anyone else's methods.
3) Extinguish (your participation in the fundamental ideas). Oops! We (MS) found out we can't turn a profit here, or it's just too hard, or we (MS) will just continue using these out of date definitions in our massive implementation of whatever it is we just stomped on and the rest of the world need to adhere to our specs from now on (because we are STILL the biggest gorilla in the banana field).
Once MS has Linux on every Windows machine then THEY control Linux because everything will need to comply with their architecture.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
This.
I have been saying EXACTLY this since I first heard about MS' "Sudden befriending" of Linux.
Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.
Not to reply to my own comment, but this Music Librarian has a nice interface, similar to the iTunes Columnar "Song Browser" View. Available for several platforms, including macOS.
Only downside is it doesn't offer an iOS Remote (although it will Upload songs to iOS devices, which is a nice touch) :
https://www.clementine-player....
So, if iTunes goes away....and I wouldn't mind a better interface, but will there be anything left on MacOS that allows me to catalog, rip and manage MY music local?
That's the laugh: There have pretty much ALWAYS been alternatives to iTunes for macOS available from 3rd Parties. I happen to like iTunes; so I don't have much experience with these Applications, but I know they exist, and have for years in one form or another:
Kodi: This was formerly the XBMC Project. It has been available on multiple platforms for years and years. It and Plex (below) are the heavy-hitters in this world, IMHO.
https://kodi.tv/
Plex: Originally grew out of the XBMC Project, as a Mac-specific version of same.
Probably the most full-featured Media Server/Player Combination. Too many features and platforms to mention here. Also check out the companion macOS PlexAmp lightweight Player.
https://www.plex.tv/plex-labs/...
VLC: Plays anything that even PRETENDS to be a music or video file! Versions available back to OS X 10.0 Cheetah, FFS!!! I don't know if it can Rip; but it sure can PLAY!!!
https://www.videolan.org/vlc/d...
And I found a nice page that aggregates these things, here it is:
https://alternativeto.net/soft...
Ugh... Had the flu last month. I need like a year off, work is getting tiring.
A month in the Bahamas is sounding really good right now. You down? I kid, of course, but only because there's no way I could afford to miss the work right now.
Yeah, I ABSOLUTELY hear you!
I had the flu last month, too... Took almost a month to get over it, and I feel like I've even had a slight relapse last weekend. Yeah, I feel like I am forcing thoughts out of a very tiny hole in a tube of really thick brain-paste. Doesn't help that work is a little slow right now.
A month in the Bahamas sounds REALLY tempting; but I can't do the logistics, either... ;-)
Sigh. We're just Work-Bots; you and I. MidaSwell face it.
AFAIK they haven't. I was being a bit snarky.
You got a bug up your butt today buddy? I don't hear from you for a while, then this?
But really, how have you been? I've missed this...
Sorry! I am fine, but getting more worn-out by the day.
I need a vacation, BAD!!!!
We just haven't crossed-paths on /. threads, lately. Nothing personal, I assure you... ;-)
Hope you are doing more wonderful-er than me!!!
I just checked today, with a friend's iPhone 6.
"Who needs iTunes to copy a file?" - I was talking about copying a sound file to use as a ringtone using drag-and-drop from a PC. It still won't work.
"What are "approved headphones"?" - those who work with Apple's Bluetooth stack. Every other device (not only headphones) that connects to Android devices but no Apple are arguably "not approved" through the Apple Bluetooth stack. I remember an OBD II device made for an Opel Zafira. There were two readily available on the market. One was around 40-ish dollars but was not compatible with Apple phones (worked under all three Android phones I tested), and the "Apple compatible" device was 120 dollars and had similar feature set.
"What do you mean "Sync with your PC"? Sync WHAT?" - anything really, you name it. Ringtones, music, documents, pictures, whatever. I plug my Android devices to my PC through USB and I can do whatever I want on its storage, even advanced stuff if I enable Developer mode. I wasn't talking about e-mail really.
As for transfers between iPhones and Android devices, forget bout trying that. I lost count of the times I had to resort to alternative transfer methods to send some documentation from my phone to a colleague's phone. really, the two devices were next to each other and we had to upload the files to the cloud and share links.
Who cares about ringtones? What are you, 12 years old? You said "a file". Not "A ringtone." Kind of a different thing.
What are you talking about with the "not approved through the Apple Bluetooth stack?" Are you talking about iOS not supporting the PROPRIETARY AptX protocol? No, they support the INDUSTRY-STANDARD (and far superior) AAC Protocol, as well as the shitty standard Bluetooth Protocol.
Wait! First you're talking Headphones, then you switch to talking about a Car Diagnostics Device?!? Make up my mind!!!
I can tell I'm never going to reach a conclusion with this discussion; because you will just keep topic-hopping.
Link 1: There's no way they laid all the groundwork for switching from Java to the Java-derived DALVIK and whipped together the Android API and SDK based on DALVIK (which would have needed to be created from scratch given that Danger used native Java APIs and the Java SDK) in the handful of months between the iPhone being unveiled and the first Android phone coming to market. There wasn't even enough time to get FCC approval and tool for production in that time, and the addition of a touch interface would have necessitated both re-approval and re-tooling.
Link 2: That's Samsung, not Android. Samsung could well have done the same with Windows Phone, or even their own OS.
I feel like we've had this conversation before.
1. They HAD the Android OS together in some form with a Keyboard-based Interface before the iPhone debuted. All they had to do is re-tool the GUI bits. Heck, they didn't even really have to source ANYTHING. Who's the "They"? Android doesn't spec HARDWARE, per se. So, if the "They" is Google, THEY didn't even BUILD the first Nexus phone (the Nexus 1), that would be HTC. And THAT wasn't available until THREE YEARS after the first iPhone was shown to the Public. PLENTY of time for HTC to source a touchscreen, work with Google on the GUI, and apply for and receive "Agency Approvals":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
As for Point #2, fair enough. But Samsung was a VERY important "partner" for Google in the Android world, even BEFORE the iPhone. They would have received first-class access to Google's UI engineers. And that, paired with the fact that Samsung is one of the few actual Touchscreen OEMs in the world, gave them a jump on almost everyone. But even with THAT advantage, their first Touchscreen phone, the romantically-named SGH-T919 (which looks pretty much nothing like their iPhone-clone), wasn't released until "late in 2008", almost 2 years after the first iPhone was revealed.
As near as I can determine, Samsung's 100% iPhone-clone depicted in my "Link #2" is the Galaxy S, which was announced in March 2010, again, THREE YEARS after the debut of the first iPhone (February 2007). PLENTY of time to "copy the iPhone, pixel for pixel.":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Have we had this discussion before? Yes. And we will have it again; so long as you keep taking the entirely indefensible position that phones like the Galaxy S are not 100% cold-copies of the iPhone.
No, the curved corners and usually 10% of over scan that CRTs had. until some of the last gen CRTs that had squared off corners and very little over scan
NTSC has always been a rectangular image, but early CRTs were round, all the corners were cropped off by the tube. As time went on CRTs got more rectangular but even into the 80's still had curved corners. Then into the late 90's we got squared off corners and minimal overscan.
With old school CRTs they were doing the exact same thing that today's phones with curved corners are doing. The OS is generating and sending a rectangular image to the screen. The screen is displaying whatever it can, cropping off rounded corners or notches. If you ever see screen shots from these devices with curved corners or notches the screen shots are perfectly rectangular with no curved corners or notches.
This is why you see shit like the cropped off time on that one demo phone. as far as the OS is concerned it is sending an image to a rectangular screen. The screen is displaying what it can.
We went from unpure garbage over scanning and cropping in the analog era to pixel perfect with no over scan in the digital era, just to have retards bring back an artifact of the analog era.
Some of your pedantic diatribe is correct; but the Macintosh and Lisa PRODUCED an image with rounded-corners, and the image was WAY underscanned. It had NOTHING to do with the CRT's geometry or scan-pattern or ANYTHING. IIRC, if you cranked the brightness up on the Lisa's screen so you could see the actual scan-pattern, it extended BEYOND the rounded corners of the IMAGE.
Breaking Touch ID requires getting a fingerprint, something you can't just get off someone's Facebook profile.
Breaking Face ID just requires grabbing a bunch of pictures and having access to a 3D printer.
Using something that by definition is publicly viewable as authentication is braindead. It's essentially requiring a username and then the username again. It's fundamentally broken and can never be fixed.
You do realize those articles are from when the technique was first created, right? They've had four months to refine it.
Face ID is completely broken at this point and can't be fixed. It's a dumb idea by a dumb company.
Go to Hell, Anonymous COWARD.
It's a LOT more than just "anyone with access to a 3D Printer", fucktard.
I guess you can just load a 2D picture of something up into Photoshop, hit "Print", and out pops an accurate 3D representation of the picture.
Yeahrightsure.
Fucktard.