I thought we got to this point in history after millennia of world events without either.
Energy = efficiency. Now you can call your brother in a city 2000 miles away with your cell phone. Before you'd have to write a letter, wait for the post to arrive, and some dude on a horse would have to make a 2000 mile trip to get your message to him. Then you'd have to wait a couple months for his reply. Energy gives us highly efficient healthcare, agriculture, industry and distribution. Take energy away and modern society falls apart. Agriculture and distribution become less efficient resulting in shortage and starvation as more primitive farming methods can't sustain modern populations.
Would the human race survive with lower energy consumption? Sure it would. However it would not be the same society as today. You might miss modern conveniences when you're living in the 18th century again.
screw up its orbit, collide with the moon which will then throw Earth into a collision course toward the Sun.
The cute thing about the orbital equation is that mass is not part of it, it cancels out on both sides of the equation. The only thing that matters is the mass of the thing you're orbiting, your speed and distance.
Of course it can be quantified. If you're mining for X or Y and you have 0.03% silver recovered as well as a byproduct, then the cost of the silver is 0.03% of your overall mining process, and the cost of mining X and Y is 99.97% of your overall mining cost. EVERYTHING can be quantified.
Conservation of matter says there will never be less than there is today. The "shortage" happens when the available amount per capita drops to a less than functional value. But broken and disposed stuff can be recovered and re-manufactured - and it will when that becomes less expensive than finding new material. But if you end up having too many people, then scarcity happens when not everyone has access to enough of the material.
You are part of the rich guys. Leave your country and go see what real poverty is like. So you're not a billionaire. But your new-ish car, spacious house, manicured and landscaped property, beautiful roads, electricity without constant brownouts and power failures, air conditioning, cable TV, abundant shops that actually have stuff on the shelves, 100% cellphone coverage by multiple carriers... you're the rich guy, believe it or not.
I would have thought that over a geological timescale, the earth's crust is pretty fluid. Earthquakes and tectonic movement tends to mix stuff up. I'd see the earth's crust like a very very very viscous fluid. Kind of like the panes of stained glass from the middle ages which get thinner on top and thicker on the bottom because of gravity and time. Over a year, a hundred years, a thousand years - nothing is evident. But put the timescale into hundreds of million/billions of years and SOME stuff is going to have moved...
I'm pretty sure if we can mill grain and pump out seawater using canvas, wood, hemp and stone, we'll figure something out. These materials are not required for alternative energy production. They're required for efficient alternative energy production. What we lose is efficiency. OK, build more. Or even better, stop making babies.
Wait, did she violate the Iran sanction while in the US, or are you holding a CFO responsible for the doings of a multi-national corporation and grabbing her when near the US? Be careful what you wish for, there are a lot of multinational corporations breaking any number of laws all around the world.
There's a difference between prosecution and persecution. Chinese citizens are not subject to US dictates while in China. There's this little thing called sovereignty.
Why? The charges against her are as real as they have been.
Which charges would those be? The charge of a Chinese citizen in China not complying with a unilateral declaration of "sanctions" by the USA which isn't even recognized by the UN? That's not a charge, it's a farce and a pretext. US law stops 12 miles offshore. Chinese citizens can do whatever they want under Chinese law while in China.
I can't wait for Saudis to start grabbing American tourists for extradition from Dubai for consuming alcohol, fornication and blasphemy while in the US.
If you are allowing people to plug USB sticks into your computer you aren't as "air gapped" as you think you are. Sneaker-net is still a net. Air-gapped means no connection to the outside AT ALL.
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I thought we got to this point in history after millennia of world events without either.
Energy = efficiency. Now you can call your brother in a city 2000 miles away with your cell phone. Before you'd have to write a letter, wait for the post to arrive, and some dude on a horse would have to make a 2000 mile trip to get your message to him. Then you'd have to wait a couple months for his reply. Energy gives us highly efficient healthcare, agriculture, industry and distribution. Take energy away and modern society falls apart. Agriculture and distribution become less efficient resulting in shortage and starvation as more primitive farming methods can't sustain modern populations.
Would the human race survive with lower energy consumption? Sure it would. However it would not be the same society as today. You might miss modern conveniences when you're living in the 18th century again.
screw up its orbit, collide with the moon which will then throw Earth into a collision course toward the Sun.
The cute thing about the orbital equation is that mass is not part of it, it cancels out on both sides of the equation. The only thing that matters is the mass of the thing you're orbiting, your speed and distance.
Of course it can be quantified. If you're mining for X or Y and you have 0.03% silver recovered as well as a byproduct, then the cost of the silver is 0.03% of your overall mining process, and the cost of mining X and Y is 99.97% of your overall mining cost. EVERYTHING can be quantified.
Conservation of matter says there will never be less than there is today. The "shortage" happens when the available amount per capita drops to a less than functional value. But broken and disposed stuff can be recovered and re-manufactured - and it will when that becomes less expensive than finding new material. But if you end up having too many people, then scarcity happens when not everyone has access to enough of the material.
You are part of the rich guys. Leave your country and go see what real poverty is like. So you're not a billionaire. But your new-ish car, spacious house, manicured and landscaped property, beautiful roads, electricity without constant brownouts and power failures, air conditioning, cable TV, abundant shops that actually have stuff on the shelves, 100% cellphone coverage by multiple carriers... you're the rich guy, believe it or not.
Call me when suborbital becomes a thing. NY to Australia in 60 minutes.
Definitely built by Huawei, it's highly likely...
can't be tracked on radar
Wanna bet? You just need a better radar...
I see what you did there lol
I would have thought that over a geological timescale, the earth's crust is pretty fluid. Earthquakes and tectonic movement tends to mix stuff up. I'd see the earth's crust like a very very very viscous fluid. Kind of like the panes of stained glass from the middle ages which get thinner on top and thicker on the bottom because of gravity and time. Over a year, a hundred years, a thousand years - nothing is evident. But put the timescale into hundreds of million/billions of years and SOME stuff is going to have moved...
Or maybe I'm just crazy.
he crust of the earth is 20 miles thick.
I am not a geologist, but a rational person would also expect the heavier/denser stuff to settle closer to the bottom than to the top, over time...
I'm certainly not going to start shorting my oil picks any time soon.
I'm pretty sure if we can mill grain and pump out seawater using canvas, wood, hemp and stone, we'll figure something out. These materials are not required for alternative energy production. They're required for efficient alternative energy production. What we lose is efficiency. OK, build more. Or even better, stop making babies.
Wait, did she violate the Iran sanction while in the US, or are you holding a CFO responsible for the doings of a multi-national corporation and grabbing her when near the US? Be careful what you wish for, there are a lot of multinational corporations breaking any number of laws all around the world.
So not the hottest year. It has been hotter before, is what you're saying?
It's a kids show. Here's a spoiler for you - the big purple dinosaur called Barney is also (gasp!) a dude in a suit.
CIA dolphins planting electrodes to the hull... /tinfoilhat
I see you've met her.
They already took a Canadian former diplomat.
Newsflash, the false rape charges have been dropped. Years ago. You should read about stuff you're trying to sound intelligent about.
There's a difference between prosecution and persecution. Chinese citizens are not subject to US dictates while in China. There's this little thing called sovereignty.
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Hahahahahaha good one.
No but tell us how you really feel.
Why? The charges against her are as real as they have been.
Which charges would those be? The charge of a Chinese citizen in China not complying with a unilateral declaration of "sanctions" by the USA which isn't even recognized by the UN? That's not a charge, it's a farce and a pretext. US law stops 12 miles offshore. Chinese citizens can do whatever they want under Chinese law while in China.
I can't wait for Saudis to start grabbing American tourists for extradition from Dubai for consuming alcohol, fornication and blasphemy while in the US.
If you are allowing people to plug USB sticks into your computer you aren't as "air gapped" as you think you are. Sneaker-net is still a net. Air-gapped means no connection to the outside AT ALL.