Eh? I haven't been watching games.slashdot.org frequently, but is this rate lock a "feature" built in to the OS, or into ATI (since you say Nvidia is now immune to the problem)?
Possibly as some soon to be more blatently advertised feature for clueless parents when it comes to helping parents control the games kids play? I can see it as being a bonus for a clueless parent.
It could also just be used as a usability and beta testing site for somethign similar but for different applications / purposes. Who knows.
$25K for a vehicle. No one should be paying that large of a percent of ones yearly GROSS income on a vehicle. I make about that for my NET yearly and I wouldn't even think about a vehicle over $6K (~20% NET). I drive an 88 LeSabre and I plan to run it into the ground. Then I'll probably get a late 90s Subaru (by then it will probably be 2010).
Would you prefer a generation of spineless wimps? A generation of "yes men" and lackies that fall into whatever line looks the least emberassing or uncomfortable?
Cameras on cell phones can be used while hidden in locker rooms to take ultimately emberassing and highly illegal images.
I am sure some creeps have thought of this tactic before. I remember our locker room in Jr high was a big room with lockers on the outside. The shower room was seperate and about 10 to 50 feet walk depending on where your locker was. Plenty of space for somone to snap pictures with a cell phone and get in real trouble.
At a certain hardware manufacturer where I work, we have a large lab that duplicates errors and runs tests on about 15 machines that have any possible windows OS installed. We do this by DVDs that store images of the installed OS. Any language that MS supports, we have that language in any OS they distribute. We use PQDI with no problems. All the images we have are made with FAT32 due to consistancy problems as well as ease of use.
I have personally used PQDI at home, also with great success. The only situation PQDI does not seem able to handle is when an OS exists on a RAID.
Either way God has a lot of responsibility to not act like a spoiled 2 year old.
And I sure am glad God is God, and not Q from Star Trek. Otherwise we would all be held responsible for the actions of other members of our species in that wierd sort of medevil courtroom.
But yes. You hit on one of the circular logic problems of Christianity. How can the freedom of choice not collide with an all knowing God? He gives us choice, but knows what we will choose.
Consider relativity; The ship going near the speed of light views the rest of the universe with a different time frame than an observer on a planet views the space ship's time. To the stationary observer, time is slower on the space ship. To the space ship, time is faster on the stationary planet. The point of view of the observer changes the observation.
I feel that the same can be applied to the views of free will vs. predestination. From our point of view, we can say "screw you God, I'm going to do my own thing" but from God's point of view, He saw it comming.
A friend of mine explained it that God allows freedom of choice and then works with it to His ends. God can redeem any situation so that something good comes of it. If someone observes it and learns from it, the people involved learn from it, etc. We can't possibly know how a situation, no matter how bad, can have any good in it, but it does according to Paul.
This is small comfort to people in the middle of horrible situations or troubles. Just see what somepeople deal with in different parts of the world just for being Christian, and for no other reason.
If God is so concerned about our free will that he won't show his love (because he doesn't want "mindless zombies"),
I think allowing freedom of choice is a great sign of love, rather than the absence of love, but this is just my opinion.
They are the actions of individuals acting of their own free will.
I believe that Mother Teresa would be a normal person (unremarkable in any sense) in the absence of a Godly lifestyle and the Holy Spirit living in her. But with it, she did what she did because she was living her life not for her self, but for God and for others. In that way, I believe that the actions of M.T. are directly attributed to God's influence in her life.
And it still doesn't answer the question of WHY God would act
I suppose that is one of the bigger questions in Christianity. Not specifically your question, but the "why God would..." and then fill in the blank with anything.
I agree that the points of view expressed do not seem to have changed. But on the plus side I always love the opportunity to think out loud and have my beliefs questions from points of view I do not hold. I never was much of an "outside the box" thinker so discussions like this are great!
I guess that God never said He would not test humankind. In fact Bible scriptures are littered with references to God testing different people to see if they are going to give in to worldy ways or keep on the straight and narrow.
Now why would God do this? If He knows everything, then he knows before hand if we would fail or succeed, right? In the story of the Exodus is a great example.
Pharaoh will think, 'The Israelites are wandering around the land in confusion, hemmed in by the desert.' 4 And [God] I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and he will pursue them. But I will gain glory for myself through Pharaoh and all his army, and the Egyptians will know that I am the LORD." So the Israelites did this.
So not only did God allow more hardship to come upon His people... He caused it. Why? So that His victory over the Egyptians would be that much greater and more memorable to future generations.
This is an example of a test on a large scale. What about a personal scale. Your example is Job. God mentions a man He is pround to call His own, Job. Satan says that Job is only so devouted to God because of God's protection and blessings that, once removed, Satan is sure Job would curse God. God allows Satan to test Job with all kinds of horrible tests. Why? For God's glory so that Job could be an example to others.
So what if a test (by either Satan or God) is too much for us? Will God ever test us so that we fail? No. He says so, but unfortunately I cannot find the reference. I'll get back with the reference.
As far as "do unto others" that refers to showing love to others, not God to us. This love is a different kind of love than the love God has for His creation because it has a different intent. I suppose that is a weak logical statement, but it's All I have now (more research).
It would be nice just have some sort of conversation with him, where he actually says something back.
You and me both.
My brother commented once that God doesn't seem to work that way for him either. For him, God works indirectly, by moving people around or close to him or by having other people interact with him.
Some Christians will pray about a decision and then feel emotional peace when they make a decision and take this to be God's way of communicating with them. When making a bad decision the peace is missing.
I think everyone would love to have the red phone to heaven. I know I would.
Instead she had her mother pop in at regular intervals to remind her to save manually.
This reminds me of the Mother-In-Law unit in the game >a href="http://www.onceuponaknight.com/video.php">On ce Upon a Knight that makes your workes work harder and longer.
I believe the "testing God" references deal more with the reason for the test. As with many of hte teachings of Jesus, it is the reason for the action as opposed to just the action that matters to God.
Lets look at a famous example of someone testing God in a good way by Gideon in Judges 6. Gideon tested God to see if what he was instructed to do came from God. Here is the short of it.
Gideon is told by an Angel to save the Israelites from the invading peoples surrounding them. To make sure that he isn't imagining the will of God Gideon asks God to wet a fleece over night but keep the ground dry. Then the next night keep the fleece dry and the rest of the ground wet. God does this to show that He is with Gideon.
Now. That sounds like a test of God, but the motivation is different than other mentions of testing God. Does that make any more / less sense?
I never claimed to be anti iTunes. My roommate has been doing the Steve Jobs dance for years and I always thought there was something good to it. He is a super intelligent guy and if he says this app is great, then I know it is.
This is something I frequently, and recently, struggle with. It is the 'ol "Would it kill you to just show some friggin love here?"
A friend said, after going through a particularly hard farmily problem that seperated her from them, that God didn't seem to show her any love at all. Until she started hanging out with me, and not because I did great things to / for her. I just hung out with her and talked with her. I didn't especially think what I was doing was Godly, nor would I have done it with any other people. For some reason I befriended her specifically.
Many times to love of God is shown through the actions of others. Some times it is the unordinary actions of those that would not ordinarily act. Other times it is ordinary actions of those God uses (think Mother Teresa).
True. I guess i missed the fact that several different religions were used (Christian, muslim, and others).
My mistake. I go by the use of "God" to refer to the God of Abraham, Isac, & Jacob as mentioned in the Bible and referred to by Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths. Other gods are mentioned using specific names, for example Baal was a god of the Babalon empire.
measuring purely human phenomenon here
Interesting that an act between divine and human is intended to be measurable on a human level. Isn't that like trying to measure radiated energy from a substance using only the visible spectrum?
Their explanation was that she didn't believe enough.
That is an idiotic belief. That is called Prosperity Religion. Illness is not a result of sin (as the Jews of Jesus time believed). Neither is a lack of healing a sign of a lack of faith.
So incomprehensible that this behaviour is completely incompatible with my understanding of what love is.
An interesting point. If God wanted to avoid anything from ever rejecting Him (thus causing that thing pain, tormen etc), he would never have made an imperfect creation. But he did. God loved humans so much that he gave them the choice. Rather than create a mindless zombi to do his will, he created being capable of rejecting Him.
That too me is Love. God wanted humans to Love him of their own choice.
After they get themselves all huffed up, simply say 'forgive me' - this too is in their 'rules'. When they can't, remind them they're being hypocrites.
The vibrations in your vocal fold necessary to produce the words commonly understood in English to be Forgive me...
is different from a state of mide where regret for an action leads to a changed point of view and beliefe necessary for one to beliefe that the offender has changed his/her ways.
or
Saying and meaning are two different things, no matter who you are talking with.
we can study the data and determine whether it really helps.
A great example of your point of view can be taken from the Bible. If we are talking about the God of the Bible, then to argue about that God, you must use the reference volume written to describe Him.
Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." 39He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Slashdot Mirror
Ok. Several minutes of internet research and linking later I answered my own question.
Thanks.
jason
Eh? I haven't been watching games.slashdot.org frequently, but is this rate lock a "feature" built in to the OS, or into ATI (since you say Nvidia is now immune to the problem)?
jason
Possibly as some soon to be more blatently advertised feature for clueless parents when it comes to helping parents control the games kids play? I can see it as being a bonus for a clueless parent.
It could also just be used as a usability and beta testing site for somethign similar but for different applications / purposes. Who knows.
jason
Dang. I was just about to post this. Interesting behavior, but not unexpected.
jason
$25K for a vehicle. No one should be paying that large of a percent of ones yearly GROSS income on a vehicle. I make about that for my NET yearly and I wouldn't even think about a vehicle over $6K (~20% NET). I drive an 88 LeSabre and I plan to run it into the ground. Then I'll probably get a late 90s Subaru (by then it will probably be 2010).
jason
Hummmmmm. Interesting theory. I would comment immediately, but I haven't thought out what yet....
This could increase the scaricity of a High school diploma.
jason
Would you prefer a generation of spineless wimps? A generation of "yes men" and lackies that fall into whatever line looks the least emberassing or uncomfortable?
jason
Cameras on cell phones can be used while hidden in locker rooms to take ultimately emberassing and highly illegal images.
I am sure some creeps have thought of this tactic before. I remember our locker room in Jr high was a big room with lockers on the outside. The shower room was seperate and about 10 to 50 feet walk depending on where your locker was. Plenty of space for somone to snap pictures with a cell phone and get in real trouble.
jason
At a certain hardware manufacturer where I work, we have a large lab that duplicates errors and runs tests on about 15 machines that have any possible windows OS installed. We do this by DVDs that store images of the installed OS. Any language that MS supports, we have that language in any OS they distribute. We use PQDI with no problems. All the images we have are made with FAT32 due to consistancy problems as well as ease of use.
I have personally used PQDI at home, also with great success. The only situation PQDI does not seem able to handle is when an OS exists on a RAID.
jason
Either way God has a lot of responsibility to not act like a spoiled 2 year old.
And I sure am glad God is God, and not Q from Star Trek. Otherwise we would all be held responsible for the actions of other members of our species in that wierd sort of medevil courtroom.
But yes. You hit on one of the circular logic problems of Christianity. How can the freedom of choice not collide with an all knowing God? He gives us choice, but knows what we will choose.
Consider relativity; The ship going near the speed of light views the rest of the universe with a different time frame than an observer on a planet views the space ship's time. To the stationary observer, time is slower on the space ship. To the space ship, time is faster on the stationary planet. The point of view of the observer changes the observation.
I feel that the same can be applied to the views of free will vs. predestination. From our point of view, we can say "screw you God, I'm going to do my own thing" but from God's point of view, He saw it comming.
A friend of mine explained it that God allows freedom of choice and then works with it to His ends. God can redeem any situation so that something good comes of it. If someone observes it and learns from it, the people involved learn from it, etc. We can't possibly know how a situation, no matter how bad, can have any good in it, but it does according to Paul.
This is small comfort to people in the middle of horrible situations or troubles. Just see what some people deal with in different parts of the world just for being Christian, and for no other reason.
I am glad I live here and not many other places.
jason
If God is so concerned about our free will that he won't show his love (because he doesn't want "mindless zombies"),
I think allowing freedom of choice is a great sign of love, rather than the absence of love, but this is just my opinion.
They are the actions of individuals acting of their own free will.
I believe that Mother Teresa would be a normal person (unremarkable in any sense) in the absence of a Godly lifestyle and the Holy Spirit living in her. But with it, she did what she did because she was living her life not for her self, but for God and for others. In that way, I believe that the actions of M.T. are directly attributed to God's influence in her life.
And it still doesn't answer the question of WHY God would act
I suppose that is one of the bigger questions in Christianity. Not specifically your question, but the "why God would..." and then fill in the blank with anything.
I agree that the points of view expressed do not seem to have changed. But on the plus side I always love the opportunity to think out loud and have my beliefs questions from points of view I do not hold. I never was much of an "outside the box" thinker so discussions like this are great!
jason
Now why would God do this? If He knows everything, then he knows before hand if we would fail or succeed, right? In the story of the Exodus is a great example.
So not only did God allow more hardship to come upon His people... He caused it. Why? So that His victory over the Egyptians would be that much greater and more memorable to future generations.
This is an example of a test on a large scale. What about a personal scale. Your example is Job. God mentions a man He is pround to call His own, Job. Satan says that Job is only so devouted to God because of God's protection and blessings that, once removed, Satan is sure Job would curse God. God allows Satan to test Job with all kinds of horrible tests. Why? For God's glory so that Job could be an example to others.
So what if a test (by either Satan or God) is too much for us? Will God ever test us so that we fail? No. He says so, but unfortunately I cannot find the reference. I'll get back with the reference.
As far as "do unto others" that refers to showing love to others, not God to us. This love is a different kind of love than the love God has for His creation because it has a different intent. I suppose that is a weak logical statement, but it's All I have now (more research).
jason
It would be nice just have some sort of conversation with him, where he actually says something back.
You and me both.
My brother commented once that God doesn't seem to work that way for him either. For him, God works indirectly, by moving people around or close to him or by having other people interact with him.
Some Christians will pray about a decision and then feel emotional peace when they make a decision and take this to be God's way of communicating with them. When making a bad decision the peace is missing.
I think everyone would love to have the red phone to heaven. I know I would.
jason
Instead she had her mother pop in at regular intervals to remind her to save manually.
n ce Upon a Knight that makes your workes work harder and longer.
This reminds me of the Mother-In-Law unit in the game >a href="http://www.onceuponaknight.com/video.php">O
They even have a demo available here
jason
I believe the "testing God" references deal more with the reason for the test. As with many of hte teachings of Jesus, it is the reason for the action as opposed to just the action that matters to God.
Lets look at a famous example of someone testing God in a good way by Gideon in Judges 6. Gideon tested God to see if what he was instructed to do came from God. Here is the short of it.
Gideon is told by an Angel to save the Israelites from the invading peoples surrounding them. To make sure that he isn't imagining the will of God Gideon asks God to wet a fleece over night but keep the ground dry. Then the next night keep the fleece dry and the rest of the ground wet. God does this to show that He is with Gideon.
Now. That sounds like a test of God, but the motivation is different than other mentions of testing God. Does that make any more / less sense?
jason
Excelent!
I never claimed to be anti iTunes. My roommate has been doing the Steve Jobs dance for years and I always thought there was something good to it. He is a super intelligent guy and if he says this app is great, then I know it is.
jason
This is something I frequently, and recently, struggle with. It is the 'ol "Would it kill you to just show some friggin love here?"
A friend said, after going through a particularly hard farmily problem that seperated her from them, that God didn't seem to show her any love at all. Until she started hanging out with me, and not because I did great things to / for her. I just hung out with her and talked with her. I didn't especially think what I was doing was Godly, nor would I have done it with any other people. For some reason I befriended her specifically.
Many times to love of God is shown through the actions of others. Some times it is the unordinary actions of those that would not ordinarily act. Other times it is ordinary actions of those God uses (think Mother Teresa).
jason
True. I guess i missed the fact that several different religions were used (Christian, muslim, and others).
My mistake. I go by the use of "God" to refer to the God of Abraham, Isac, & Jacob as mentioned in the Bible and referred to by Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths. Other gods are mentioned using specific names, for example Baal was a god of the Babalon empire.
measuring purely human phenomenon here
Interesting that an act between divine and human is intended to be measurable on a human level. Isn't that like trying to measure radiated energy from a substance using only the visible spectrum?
jason
I would like to know what bit rates are supported by iTunes when you rip in MP3 or aac.
If it as another stupid 96 or 128kbps max then forget it.
jason
Their explanation was that she didn't believe enough.
That is an idiotic belief. That is called Prosperity Religion. Illness is not a result of sin (as the Jews of Jesus time believed). Neither is a lack of healing a sign of a lack of faith.
Rich people are no closer to God than are poor (and if you read the Bible, probably the other way around).
jason
So incomprehensible that this behaviour is completely incompatible with my understanding of what love is.
An interesting point. If God wanted to avoid anything from ever rejecting Him (thus causing that thing pain, tormen etc), he would never have made an imperfect creation. But he did. God loved humans so much that he gave them the choice. Rather than create a mindless zombi to do his will, he created being capable of rejecting Him.
That too me is Love. God wanted humans to Love him of their own choice.
jason
After they get themselves all huffed up, simply say 'forgive me' - this too is in their 'rules'. When they can't, remind them they're being hypocrites.
The vibrations in your vocal fold necessary to produce the words commonly understood in English to be Forgive me...
is different from a state of mide where regret for an action leads to a changed point of view and beliefe necessary for one to beliefe that the offender has changed his/her ways.
or
Saying and meaning are two different things, no matter who you are talking with.
jason
we can study the data and determine whether it really helps.
A great example of your point of view can be taken from the Bible. If we are talking about the God of the Bible, then to argue about that God, you must use the reference volume written to describe Him.
Jesus said in his temptation in the desert by Satan: Do not put the Lord your God to the test.
What does that mean? Well . . . don't test God. Why? Look at the context of the passage.
When asked to proove He was the Son of God, Jesus says that if His actions are not proof enough then too bad, that is what you get.
jason
On the Friend List. Thanks for actual thought in your post.
jason
Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you."
39He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
From Mat 12:38-40