OMG! the us is assassinating taliban leaders? that is SHOCKING news, to everyone who's been living under a rock for the past decade.
certainly, educating that strata of americans who are unable to point at pakistan on a map of asia is well worth the risk of exposing U.S. allies to deadly risk...
equally shocking is this expose about civilians being mistakenly killed. during a war. that's lasted 8 years.
key lesson from all this: curing illiterats of their magical bunny land dilusions is not a good enough reason to publish military secrets for all the world to see
what happens if (when) a couple of people actually are killed as the result of this bs?
the fact that we all suddenly feel compelled momentarily to change the topic of our public discourse isn't a good enough reason for wikileaks.
and the fact that they can't even get their act together enough to redact properly just goes to show how amateur they are.
whats at stake here really is freedom of the press. if we start assigning the label and the priveledge that goes with it to jerk offs like the wikileaks guy, there is a pretty good chance that actual whistleblowers and real news reporting may suffer.
that is all the lesson for today, bobby.
Lets assume something completely crazy for a moment: that there really is information that ought to be kept secret. for example, launch codes for nukes.
let's continue with the mental exercise so far as to say other facts may similarly be in the legitimate national interest to conceal.
I'll even give you that in some rare cases, THE TRUTH may be so shocking / valuable / topical / money making that that PUBLIC INTEREST demands disclosure.
so, bobby, wtf is the one new thing you learnt from this leak? seriously? whats the one new piece of public interest type of info that you got from this? I sure as hell havent seen anything new.
and why on earth couldnt someone have just REDACTED THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES of the informers?
im so sick of this fallacious comparison of derivatives to gambling. just because YOU are TOO STUPID to understand what derivatives are, or how they work, or how to make money using them, doesnt mean that "derivates are gambling"
"plant trees not burn them"
Dear faquino. Please, do be the 1st to start. Next time you get cold in winter, just go plant a tree instead of burning one, for warmth.
And naturally, I assume your use of electricity to post on/. means you've generated at least that much energy via some "non tree burning" means, yes? Otherwise you might be a hypocrite, and you don't want to be a hypocrite, do you?
In general, the "truism" that "conservation of energy" is somehow a virtue in itself has gotten so ffin old. A physicist will tell you energy is not some kind of precious nonrenewable resource. There are so many ways to generate energy and to use it to make life better for everyone & everywhere.
pushing "plant trees not burn them" is like proposing going back to cave dwelling, and about as practical. id expect a comment like this on nyt, but not as a +5 insightful on/.
These are not stupid people. What you think is an oversight, or misunderstanding of the medium is not what's happening here. This is all motivated by the sherif's desire for a few minutes in the spotlight.
naturally, those minutes of attention can and often will lead to $$$ in the form of interviews, possible future political campaigns, etc.
afterall, we ARE talking about the dude, arent we?
opera is ok, but overrated.
first of all, i find it more prone to trojans et al than even IE. I hear that opera is widely used in Russia, where its got like 30% market share. Them Russkies with they script kiddies and what not!
Overall, I have to say, I use opera solely thanks to a single function: keyboard navigation. Why Opera continues to be the only browser that I know of that has this basic shift+up/down/left/right navigation is beyond me.
Don't other people hate mice like i do?
Don't other people use computers from the couch, as I do? And don't they hate (just absolutely HATE!) having to mouse around web pages?
W. firefox, you have the option of "searching as you type" so if you want to get to a link thats 80% down, 75% to the right on your page you can start typing a UNIQUE key combination and your cursor will move there.
But thats ANNOYING! especially if the link you want is called "link i want": which contains common words, so Firefox must cycle thru each instance of the key combo before it takes you to the one you want.
Seriouly tho, wtf is up with that!? Why is Opera the only browser that allows you to interact with a webpage via the keyboard effectively? All others have you go *in order* !
In all honesty, if anyone could point out another browser that has this function of navigating within pages effectively with keyboard, lemme know.
Cause Opera sux. It craches. and uses up much much memory.
self-selected - i am surprised more people here don't have a bone to pick with this.
wtf is a self-identified elected official?!
i should hope that ACTUAL officials have better things to do w. time than online civics quizzes.
otoh, the type of person that just thinks he is an "elected official" without actually being one i think may v. well be 1 of the scarrier types around... all bloated self importance and obnoxiousness of a hallway monitor.... the types that wave hands in front of their faces when they see someone smoking a cigarette on a public street.
ugh.
this is clearly further evidence of climate change! when will the authorities act? yet another sign of global warming, willfully ignored in the service of corporate greed!
outrage. several committees must be formed, at once.
they should proceed to publicly interogate someone to answer for these magnetic portals.
And I actually do not see your link between nationalized health care, and money invested into research, what exactly do those two have to do with each other? The taxes we pay to the state that goes into research have nothing to do with our health care system, as it is not the state that runs that..
nationalized health care == paltry funding == no new research sponsored.
and of course u dont NEED to pay for research because WE do so.
i wasnt comparing usa w. 300 MM to sweden. i was comparing to the eu.
once again, please show me a single list of discoveries of note, for any year during the last 20, that isnt completely and utterly dominated by U.S. paid-for research.
im saying nationalized anything sux because governments cannot by their nature make purchasing decisions as efficient as a free market can.
All the (socialist as I am sure McCain would call us) countries of the world will gladly have all citizens screened for various DNA predispositions
yeah except you can't afford the screening, can you? or new scientific discovery? u all just leach off of us.
tell you what. you go find a list of scientific discoveries from any 1 year during the last 20 that isn't completely and utterly DOMINATED by U.S. paid-for research, and then MAYBE ill think about socialized health care, ok?
Here is the full list of the videos links available via madonna's page on allmusic.com
* American Life
* American Pie
* Beautiful Stranger
* Bedtime Story
* Die Another Day
* Don't Cry for Me Argentina
* Don't Tell Me
* Express Yourself
* Frozen
* Hollywood
* Hung Up
* I Want You
* I'll Remember
* Jump
* Justify My Love
* Love Don't Live Here Anymore
* Love Profusion
* Music
* Oh Father
* Rain
* Ray of Light
* Ray of Light
* Secret
* Sorry
* Take a Bow
* This Used to Be My Playground
* Vogue
* What It Feels Like for a Girl
* You Must Love Me
* You'll See
I just had a peek at allmusic.com, and they don't seem to be so good at "popular" pop.
Their search engine seems to be able to find precisely two videos by Madonna
Dear sir. Did you misspell madonna? If you access her allmusic.com page (admittedly, this is difficult due to how slooooow their site is) there will be many many many videos. In fact, can't think of any that aren't on there.
allmusic.com has a huge selection of videos, im guessing legally, as they are a huge site thats been around forever. i haven't had it happen where I looked for a video and not found it there. i bet they got more selection now than mtv will in 2 yrs.
Some people profited and society at large gets stuck with the bill when the bubble bursts.
i agree mostly, except i would say ALL not SOME americans profited. construction workers profited with higher wages. lown mowers profited by higher demand. home depot clerks profited w. higher bonuses. all in all, each $1 that goes into a house sale gets multiplied 4 times in terms of multiplier effects. so this is just a hang over. we all collectively had a bit too much fun. we will adjust. we will recover. we are human therefore we can and will adapt.
syea i am sure you make the "economic decision" that something that normaly costs 400$ is going to be over 1200$ i acouple years.. yea.. i am sure you saw that coming...
of course i saw it coming! health costs have been increasing double digits per year for well over a decade now. everyone knows this. this is widely available information.
if their health insurance was at the same price it was 3 years ago then yes they would have retired. but with the way it went up they can't afford to retire
inflation: increase in price of goods and services. happens to all goods, all services, all the time.
its the thinking that normal economic decision making somehow doesn't apply to health care that bothers me. there isn't anything even remotely special about health care. each person should buy exactly as much as is desired. i should no more have to pay for someone else's health care than laptop.
"people" are too dumb to plan for retirement on their own.
o yes, everyone's favourite liberal refrain: "people are too dumb! that's why we have to MAKE THEM DO STUFF!" this assumes unfortunately that Democrats' committees are somehow smarter and better able to make decisions. that's probably why everything has gotten so much better since they took Congress a few years ago? o wait, no, according to obama, everything still sux!
that's because they WANTED to retire BEFORE they were 65!!! whose fault is that!? if as you say they are 8 yrs away from medicare, that means they are no older than 57! and they *retired*? to sit on their asses for the 25 yrs (yes, 25 yrs) remaining in their life expectancies?! o the humanity! can i please please pay for them some more!?
Think again.... Most people don't have the resources. I know people over 65 who work 2 jobs, 7 days a week, to pay medical bills,
shenanigans, i say. no, you dont know "people over 65 who work to pay medical bills" thats simply not true. medicare pays those people's medical bills.
but yes, please, correct my ignorance, and link me to some means of joining the "left libertarian" party or perhaps donating to the "left libertarian" candidate? or maybe some text book on the tenets of "left libertarian" politics? anything?!?! at all?
As a left-libertarian, I object to your lumping of all libertarians into anti-unionists..
dear sir. if you want to make up political affiliations, by all means, do so. but don't expect other people to make any sense of what you are saying. there is no such thing as "left libertarianism"
despite what people here would have you believe
hmm. let's think about that one for a minute. when you find yourself using words that everyone else understands to mean something, whereas YOU mean something else entirely, perhaps it is time to invest the 30 seconds into finding a BETTER word? rather than lecturing the rest of us about the "proper" use? i believe this is pretty much THE reason why we HAVE dictionaries, without which no intelligent or scientific discourse is possible. otherwise, we all sit around trying to guess what everybody "means" when they "say" the word "blue" or "triangle"
well. in the absence of any known mechanism by which my head and the signals interact, i would have 0 reason to prefer 1 or the other. that question is misleading, kind of like "when did you stop beating your wife"
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OMG! the us is assassinating taliban leaders? that is SHOCKING news, to everyone who's been living under a rock for the past decade. certainly, educating that strata of americans who are unable to point at pakistan on a map of asia is well worth the risk of exposing U.S. allies to deadly risk... equally shocking is this expose about civilians being mistakenly killed. during a war. that's lasted 8 years. key lesson from all this: curing illiterats of their magical bunny land dilusions is not a good enough reason to publish military secrets for all the world to see what happens if (when) a couple of people actually are killed as the result of this bs? the fact that we all suddenly feel compelled momentarily to change the topic of our public discourse isn't a good enough reason for wikileaks. and the fact that they can't even get their act together enough to redact properly just goes to show how amateur they are. whats at stake here really is freedom of the press. if we start assigning the label and the priveledge that goes with it to jerk offs like the wikileaks guy, there is a pretty good chance that actual whistleblowers and real news reporting may suffer. that is all the lesson for today, bobby.
Lets assume something completely crazy for a moment: that there really is information that ought to be kept secret. for example, launch codes for nukes. let's continue with the mental exercise so far as to say other facts may similarly be in the legitimate national interest to conceal. I'll even give you that in some rare cases, THE TRUTH may be so shocking / valuable / topical / money making that that PUBLIC INTEREST demands disclosure. so, bobby, wtf is the one new thing you learnt from this leak? seriously? whats the one new piece of public interest type of info that you got from this? I sure as hell havent seen anything new. and why on earth couldnt someone have just REDACTED THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES of the informers?
im so sick of this fallacious comparison of derivatives to gambling. just because YOU are TOO STUPID to understand what derivatives are, or how they work, or how to make money using them, doesnt mean that "derivates are gambling"
"plant trees not burn them" Dear faquino. Please, do be the 1st to start. Next time you get cold in winter, just go plant a tree instead of burning one, for warmth. And naturally, I assume your use of electricity to post on /. means you've generated at least that much energy via some "non tree burning" means, yes? Otherwise you might be a hypocrite, and you don't want to be a hypocrite, do you?
In general, the "truism" that "conservation of energy" is somehow a virtue in itself has gotten so ffin old. A physicist will tell you energy is not some kind of precious nonrenewable resource. There are so many ways to generate energy and to use it to make life better for everyone & everywhere.
pushing "plant trees not burn them" is like proposing going back to cave dwelling, and about as practical. id expect a comment like this on nyt, but not as a +5 insightful on /.
These are not stupid people. What you think is an oversight, or misunderstanding of the medium is not what's happening here. This is all motivated by the sherif's desire for a few minutes in the spotlight. naturally, those minutes of attention can and often will lead to $$$ in the form of interviews, possible future political campaigns, etc. afterall, we ARE talking about the dude, arent we?
opera is ok, but overrated. first of all, i find it more prone to trojans et al than even IE. I hear that opera is widely used in Russia, where its got like 30% market share. Them Russkies with they script kiddies and what not! Overall, I have to say, I use opera solely thanks to a single function: keyboard navigation. Why Opera continues to be the only browser that I know of that has this basic shift+up/down/left/right navigation is beyond me. Don't other people hate mice like i do? Don't other people use computers from the couch, as I do? And don't they hate (just absolutely HATE!) having to mouse around web pages? W. firefox, you have the option of "searching as you type" so if you want to get to a link thats 80% down, 75% to the right on your page you can start typing a UNIQUE key combination and your cursor will move there. But thats ANNOYING! especially if the link you want is called "link i want": which contains common words, so Firefox must cycle thru each instance of the key combo before it takes you to the one you want. Seriouly tho, wtf is up with that!? Why is Opera the only browser that allows you to interact with a webpage via the keyboard effectively? All others have you go *in order* ! In all honesty, if anyone could point out another browser that has this function of navigating within pages effectively with keyboard, lemme know. Cause Opera sux. It craches. and uses up much much memory.
self-selected - i am surprised more people here don't have a bone to pick with this. wtf is a self-identified elected official?! i should hope that ACTUAL officials have better things to do w. time than online civics quizzes. otoh, the type of person that just thinks he is an "elected official" without actually being one i think may v. well be 1 of the scarrier types around... all bloated self importance and obnoxiousness of a hallway monitor.... the types that wave hands in front of their faces when they see someone smoking a cigarette on a public street. ugh.
this is clearly further evidence of climate change! when will the authorities act? yet another sign of global warming, willfully ignored in the service of corporate greed! outrage. several committees must be formed, at once. they should proceed to publicly interogate someone to answer for these magnetic portals.
And I actually do not see your link between nationalized health care, and money invested into research, what exactly do those two have to do with each other? The taxes we pay to the state that goes into research have nothing to do with our health care system, as it is not the state that runs that..
nationalized health care == paltry funding == no new research sponsored. and of course u dont NEED to pay for research because WE do so. i wasnt comparing usa w. 300 MM to sweden. i was comparing to the eu. once again, please show me a single list of discoveries of note, for any year during the last 20, that isnt completely and utterly dominated by U.S. paid-for research. im saying nationalized anything sux because governments cannot by their nature make purchasing decisions as efficient as a free market can.
that can save your live some day?
All the (socialist as I am sure McCain would call us) countries of the world will gladly have all citizens screened for various DNA predispositions
yeah except you can't afford the screening, can you? or new scientific discovery? u all just leach off of us. tell you what. you go find a list of scientific discoveries from any 1 year during the last 20 that isn't completely and utterly DOMINATED by U.S. paid-for research, and then MAYBE ill think about socialized health care, ok?
Here is the full list of the videos links available via madonna's page on allmusic.com * American Life * American Pie * Beautiful Stranger * Bedtime Story * Die Another Day * Don't Cry for Me Argentina * Don't Tell Me * Express Yourself * Frozen * Hollywood * Hung Up * I Want You * I'll Remember * Jump * Justify My Love * Love Don't Live Here Anymore * Love Profusion * Music * Oh Father * Rain * Ray of Light * Ray of Light * Secret * Sorry * Take a Bow * This Used to Be My Playground * Vogue * What It Feels Like for a Girl * You Must Love Me * You'll See
I just had a peek at allmusic.com, and they don't seem to be so good at "popular" pop.
Their search engine seems to be able to find precisely two videos by Madonna
Dear sir. Did you misspell madonna? If you access her allmusic.com page (admittedly, this is difficult due to how slooooow their site is) there will be many many many videos. In fact, can't think of any that aren't on there.
allmusic.com has a huge selection of videos, im guessing legally, as they are a huge site thats been around forever.
i haven't had it happen where I looked for a video and not found it there.
i bet they got more selection now than mtv will in 2 yrs.
Some people profited and society at large gets stuck with the bill when the bubble bursts.
i agree mostly, except i would say ALL not SOME americans profited. construction workers profited with higher wages. lown mowers profited by higher demand. home depot clerks profited w. higher bonuses.
all in all, each $1 that goes into a house sale gets multiplied 4 times in terms of multiplier effects.
so this is just a hang over. we all collectively had a bit too much fun. we will adjust. we will recover. we are human therefore we can and will adapt.
dear sir.
thanks for the thoughtful comment. likely it will be ignored along w. other voices of reason.
syea i am sure you make the "economic decision" that something that normaly costs 400$ is going to be over 1200$ i acouple years.. yea.. i am sure you saw that coming...
of course i saw it coming! health costs have been increasing double digits per year for well over a decade now. everyone knows this. this is widely available information.
if their health insurance was at the same price it was 3 years ago then yes they would have retired. but with the way it went up they can't afford to retire
inflation: increase in price of goods and services.
happens to all goods, all services, all the time.
its the thinking that normal economic decision making somehow doesn't apply to health care that bothers me. there isn't anything even remotely special about health care. each person should buy exactly as much as is desired. i should no more have to pay for someone else's health care than laptop.
"people" are too dumb to plan for retirement on their own.
o yes, everyone's favourite liberal refrain: "people are too dumb! that's why we have to MAKE THEM DO STUFF!"
this assumes unfortunately that Democrats' committees are somehow smarter and better able to make decisions. that's probably why everything has gotten so much better since they took Congress a few years ago? o wait, no, according to obama, everything still sux!
that's because they WANTED to retire BEFORE they were 65!!! whose fault is that!? if as you say they are 8 yrs away from medicare, that means they are no older than 57! and they *retired*? to sit on their asses for the 25 yrs (yes, 25 yrs) remaining in their life expectancies?! o the humanity! can i please please pay for them some more!?
Think again.... Most people don't have the resources. I know people over 65 who work 2 jobs, 7 days a week, to pay medical bills,
shenanigans, i say. no, you dont know "people over 65 who work to pay medical bills"
thats simply not true.
medicare pays those people's medical bills.
hrm. you can be "left"
you can be libertarian
but yes, please, correct my ignorance, and link me to some means of joining the "left libertarian" party
or perhaps donating to the "left libertarian" candidate?
or maybe some text book on the tenets of "left libertarian" politics?
anything?!?! at all?
As a left-libertarian, I object to your lumping of all libertarians into anti-unionists. .
dear sir. if you want to make up political affiliations, by all means, do so. but don't expect other people to make any sense of what you are saying. there is no such thing as "left libertarianism"
despite what people here would have you believe
hmm. let's think about that one for a minute. when you find yourself using words that everyone else understands to mean something, whereas YOU mean something else entirely, perhaps it is time to invest the 30 seconds into finding a BETTER word? rather than lecturing the rest of us about the "proper" use? i believe this is pretty much THE reason why we HAVE dictionaries, without which no intelligent or scientific discourse is possible.
otherwise, we all sit around trying to guess what everybody "means" when they "say" the word "blue" or "triangle"
Aide-toi, le Ciel t'aidera - Jeanne D'Arc.
you might wanna check your sig again, i dont think the expression comes from Jean D'arc
Uhm. There is nothing on there about the harm of second hand smoke.
Which would you rather have up to your head?
well. in the absence of any known mechanism by which my head and the signals interact, i would have 0 reason to prefer 1 or the other.
that question is misleading, kind of like "when did you stop beating your wife"