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MTV Launches Music Video Site
An anonymous reader writes "MTV Music has just launched a website where they offer over 16,000 music videos — like YouTube, but with fewer notices and DMCA takedowns. They've also set up development tools for third parties to incorporate the content into their own creations. Users creating accounts at the site face other challenges, however, such as the six separate agreements and privacy statements that must be accepted via a single checkbox. Thankfully, at the time of writing the MTV Music website was making this process easier on its Firefox 3 visitors by automatically checking the accept box whenever any agreement is viewed."
In about 8 months, they'll have nothing but Real World, and you'll have to go to www.mtvmusic2.com if you want to actually see music videos.
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I wonder how long until they subvert the channel to only broadcast crappy reality shows.
"You have liberated me from thought."
I guess they finally had to move ALL of the music videos off the air and onto a new website. I was wondering where they were going to actually show music videos...now I know.
mtvmusic2.com will soon be dominated by jackass and some other useless bullshit that will destroy any remaining dignity the internet may have once had
Does this mean that they can stop wasting our time with those stupid music videos on their TV channel, and get back to their reality TV roots...?
I was thinking this was going to be really cool. If it was of a higher resolution than youtube, and all neatly organized it would be awesome. However It gets major negative points from me, as on the three video files I tried all i got was a "Copyrights prevent us from playing this file outside the U.S." Back to youtube for me.
Great, now mtv has another way to brainwash kids into thinking this emo crap is music. I also hate how some of my favorite bands are pigeonholed as a certain type of music because if they ever have a hit song it has to be just the right amount of pop. I miss the box music network. They seemed to have a great rotation and mix of music, at least in my area.
"I don't have to think. I only have to do it. The results are always perfect, but that's old news." - Meat Puppets
Can I use a plug in to download the selected video or not.
Something is up on Youtube recently as I am randomly getting junk FLV when downloading videos where a week or two ago all the videos I downloaded were viewable "offline"
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
...not the eyes.
Yes, by all means show me a concert of some proper musicians playing live to an audience, or show me some historic footage of a band in a documentary.
But please don't show me pretty "mini-movies" that do nothing more than try to distract me from realising how crap the underlying music actually is.
MTV have done for music what pork fat has done for cardiac health.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
Is it me, or is the music quality really really bad?
It almost sound like they encoded the music as 96Kbit/sec mp3 and then added noise.
From what I see, compared to yesterday, looks like they are cutting back on comments, rating and logging in to keep streaming the videos. They must be seeing quite a bit of traffic.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
Thankfully, at the time of writing the MTV Music website was making this process easier on its Firefox 3 visitors by automatically checking the accept box whenever any agreement is viewed.
I sure as hell hope this is ironic. It's my vague recollection that there are laws (or court findings) against the default behavior being entering into a contract.
In US contract law, there has to be a meeting of the minds for a contract to be formed. That is, both parties have to believe they agree on what the contract says.
(Source: female lawyer from the defcon media archives; can't remember exactly who though)
When you click next without having read the contract, have the minds met? If the checkbox is on by default, you implicitly say you do, but did you mean to do that?
In any case, if it's not illegal, it's something that smells wrong.
Consider this: when you install Debian or Ubuntu, you're asked whether you want to install popularity-contest, a program that reports anonymous usage data [which packages are installed, when have they last been used].
I trust the Debian project and Canonical to not misuse that data, and to aggregate enough of it such that usage patterns which could identify individuals with high probability are lost in the aggregation process.
But it's still the right thing for Debian and Ubuntu not installing popularity-contest unless the user explicitly wants to.
-- Jonas K
Here's what a quick look on the site says:
Top Rated:
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Never Gonna Give You Up
By Rick Astley
ffs, /.
MTV started out as a music video channel, which eventually took them to create MTV2, a channel of deranged muppets, guys getting kicked in the nuts and all sorts of contents created by and intended for brain-damaged idiots. They would have eventually created this as well, except that Youtube already fills this niche.
That's nearly a quarter of my mp3 collection!
More seriously, the interface seems nice but the quality of the audio and video is similar to youtube and the non-English-language music offering is not too good. What is the point here really?
I thought proper music was live bands? Oh, then it was wax cylinders I think. Isn't it vinyl these days, with CDs being the product of the anti-christ?
It's a good thing we have people like you to tell us what proper music is.
"The government grants you rights, not the other way around."-- beav007. Yes, these people really exist...
Maybe MTV can do for the web what it did for television...
"Abbreviation for Music Television. (More like Reality Television, amirite?) This name was chosen ironically after MTV's most hated enemy, music...
Since its inception no more than 99 years ago, MTV has attempted to systematically exterminate music, and to date, they have been reasonably successful in this regard. Some argue that the key to their victory was their outright refusal to have music videos played on their channel, or even to acknowledge the existence of music in any way (as evidenced by the various award shows they host every year).
Responsible for the successful careers of such shit bands and artists as 50 Cent, Good Charlotte, Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, Lil' Jon, Coldplay and James Blunt. Indeed, rumor has it that MTV's official policies require them to have one of the aforementioned on screen at all times. But obviously they should never actually play any of their songs. That would be severely damaging to their popularity."
Maybe I'm just getting old (I am 25 after all), but who wants to sit at their computer at watch music videos?
Let's see, you got sub-TV video quality levels, you don't have the convenience of a playlist, and you don't have the slick and trendy host who's "hip, rad, and down with it"* to tell you which songs you should want to buy.
* I'm convinced that's what the kids say these days.
I need a geo-proxy of some kind.... any ideas? Thanks
Which videos?
I just clicked on couple of the videos from the front page and they work (Money For Nothing, Never Gonna Give You Up, Under Pressure, Touch Of Grey, Welcome to the Jungle).
But boy does the sound on the Under Pressure suck.
Apparently MTV forgot what that M stands for cause video runs and looks just fine. Better than most youtube videos I've seen.
On a side note, comments like this make me feel old. And I'm not even 30 yet. XD
Someone commenting on Under Pressure by Queen an David Bowie:
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
Incredibly enough, there are some music fans that actually live outside the US. Obviously MTV doesn't think we are a large demographic given this message: "Copyright restricts us from playing this video outside the U.S."
Just another reason they are irrelevant - sad really, given I used to love MTV growing up (then again, that was way back when the M stood for music).
I've just tried to watch "Nothing else matters" by Metallica and Firefox crashed. I use Flashblock, so while the page loads, as you click through the Flashblock DIV, the whole thing goes down the Swanee. It did this twice in a row in exactly the same way.
So this site will shortly be eliminating pretty much all the competing sources of music videos on the web, but nobody outside the US is going to be able to watch it?
Geographical firewalls on websites are a really bad idea. They're anti-www, anti free trade, and they Piss People Off. They make large chunks of the world population feel discriminated against, and resentful against the company or industry or country that's stopping them from being able to watch or read what other people can watch and read.
They also make it more difficult to complain about other country-specific blocks, like China blocking its own population from being able to access certain external political sites. The more companies do this, the more frustrating the web will become.
Eric Baird
It's still some corporation that thinks they know what it is I want to see.. right off the bat I tried...
1. XTC
2. Wall of Voodoo
3. Human League
Granted these are niche bands...nothing on any of these.
When MTV gets around to allowing users to upload videos and then replacing them with their own pristine copies, I'll be impressed. Maybe they should have tried THAT model.
allmusic.com has a huge selection of videos, im guessing legally, as they are a huge site thats been around forever.
i haven't had it happen where I looked for a video and not found it there.
i bet they got more selection now than mtv will in 2 yrs.
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So MTV is branching out into music, huh? Interesting.
"After 16 years, MTV has finally completed its deevolution into the shiny things network."
-The Onion
When i click on any Video on this site Firefox crashes. (youtube works)
the fuck is a band like Morbid Angel stuffed in a "Rock" category? And no Burzum or Bathory videos? This suxs.
People still watch music videos?
I can't view most of the videos do to copyright issues. Well, looks like they wasted their time with this.
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I stopped watching all MTV channels when they decided to show half the actual video. When they do show videos they are 75% obscured by 5 not so invisible station identification emblems. Like I can't figure out what station I'm watching.
Do I dare mention the enormous banners that either pop on screen or just stay there, telling you how you should watch the video you're trying to watch. I think I hate all of those things even more than Lewis Black does.
I'm sure that watching the videos on the computer in miniature resolution and poor audio quality with popups all over the place causing more epileptic seizures than the video itself is capable of, will be a pleasurable experience.
I don't think this is really slashdot material. do any /.ers really watch mtv? i rarely watch TV, let alone MTV.
Why is the URL WWW.etc when I can't play things outside the USA?
So there you've got...
1.) A british band
2.) A band no one's heard of from the 80s
3.) A british band no one's heard of from the 80s
And you expected MTV (both decidedly not british and not in the 80s) to field music videos of these guys on their new website? *raises eyebrow*
No 'Men Without Hats,' crashes Firefox on Mac OS X, lame.
I was perusing this yesterday, and came across the Weird Al video "Don't Download This Song". One line in the original song goes:
o/~ Like Morpheus or Grokster or Limewire or KaZaA o/~
But the version on the new MTV site goes:
o/~ Like *beep* or *beep* or *beep* or *beep* o/~
Does anyone know if it was aired on MTV/VH1 this way, or is this unique to the web version?
MTV: http://www.mtvmusic.com/video/?id=108884
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz-grdpKVqg
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from wikipedia
Real World
The narration given over the opening title sequence by the seven housemates states some variation of the following:
âoe This is the true story... of seven strangers... picked to live in a house...work together and have their lives taped... to find out what happens... when people stop being polite... and start getting real...The Real World.
Road Rules
Road Rules, MTV's second reality show, debuted on July 19, 1995. The series followed six strangers between the ages of 18 and 24 (five strangers in the first four seasons) after stripping them of their money and putting them on an RV traveling from location to location only guided by a set of clues and a mission to complete at each location. It was nominated for an Emmy Award in 2001.
Come on, all these groups are more than 30 years old.
I'm also a fan of Human League, and it's a group from 1977 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_League
I remember a vague video from them at that time, but all these groups were not known from their clips. From 1980, the only video I remember was from a group named Aha.
Argh, I'm feeling old now !
At http://www.vh1classic.com/browse/video/17278/featured-playlists/index.jhtml, you can play lots of videos.
These have been available on the VH1 Classic site for quite some time now, I believe.
Since MTV and VH1/VH1 Classic share the same corporate parent, maybe they've just now added the VH1 Classic video content to MTV's site.
Pete
I was thinking the same, but searching for Dream Theater, far from a mainstream band, gave me more video's than expected.
And their "country of origin tracker" has some hickups. I could watch the video's fine, but a friend of mine could not (both from the Netherlands).
Funny how I can *see* a picture from the video, but to actually string them together in a stream is somehow a violation of copyright here in Canada, so MTV blocks my ability to view ANY content on this site, except, of course a picture from a portion of the video. Canada has copyright laws. We share a Free Trade Agreement in commerce with the United States. We also share a similar common-law-based law code, and we even view American television networks on our cable TV, yet somehow streaming video and audio over the Internet is an absolute no-no due to copyright laws? I think not. Viewing a video over the Internet is no more an infraction (if one actually exists) than for me to view an American television network signal over the air (in some Canadian border communities) or via satellite or cable transmission. If someone actually has the knowledge of what portion of American or Canadian law is being infringed via an Internet-based signal, I'd welcome the information...
I'm in the UK and every video I click on tells me this video isn't available outside the USA. At least youtube undertsand that the rest of the world exist!
I have seen better full screen video quality on free porn sites. The audio is not bad but you can tell they are ripping from their old unused betamax tapes.
MTV you are just too late. Sorry. I torrent my videos like everyone else.
Uncle Mantis
I did a search on U2 and it seems it has some of the older, some of the newer, and missing some as well. It's random what they have or don't have.
MTV getting out of the Television business, and back into the music business.
As to the Firefox drivel, nice to know click through EULA's are not evil, eh?
--Toll_Free
I'm not surprised they're doing this - they know people watch Viacom owned TV shows on YouTube, so here's a breakdown of their plans:
1. Launch a laggy, Web 2.0 music video site, covered with banner ads and siezure enducing Flash ads, with the same concepts as YouTube
2. Sue every video sharing site to remove every Viacom owned media file from said sites
3. ???
4. PROFIT!?
Give it a few months and there will be nothing on that site except MTV's classic "Reality" shows, half of which are copies of previous reality shows with 1 thing changed. I'm just wondering how long it's going to take for them to drop the "M" from "MTV"...
Hmmm... at 38 my memory is not what it used to be. I seem to recall however, that in Joan Jett's version of Crimson and Clover, she pulled open a robe to reveal herself in a bikini. While I found the video, I didn't see that scene. Was it in "Touch?"
P.S. Yeah, I'm kinda hard up at the moment.
If Nalgene water bottles are outlawed, only outlaws will have Nalgene water bottles.
They play all three of those bands' videos on VH1 Classic's 120 Minutes show and others, so it's not like they don't have them lying around.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
No it's not Real World or Road Rules or Jackass or Cribs. I want 'Pimp My Car' because you guessed it...I want them to Pimp My Car!
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I don't go to MTV because....
IBM doesn't play chess with the Universe.
they'll show some sifl and olly!
MTV is still pretty lame no matter what it does now.
There. that's the problem.
Get back to us after your testicles drop.
The specific "music videos" search engine link on allmusic.com is a bit screwy. If you click "Music Videos", use "Madonna" as a search term, and then click on the provided "Madonna" artist link, allmusic.com only calls up two videos, "Die Another Day", and "Human Nature".
OTH, if you don't click the videos link, and you just do a general artist search, the provided "Madonna" link calls up thirty Madonna videos rather than two (and eighteen Britney videos rather than three).
It's me. I have a talent for going straight to the one link on a site or the one function on a program that that doesn't work properly. :)
Eric Baird
You can all go back to youtube and watch the monkey pissing in his mouth to polish techno if you like.
Any competition is good. Just look at how fancast and hulu have changed up the whole tv game. Since these are legal and now you will have a place to find all of these music videos. A lot of music videos aren't on youtube because they have been taken down and a lot of them ...especially the ones which are a little older are horrible quality.
So cheers now lets go back to bashing corporations like usual. :P
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MTV actually started broadcasting music videos again.
The people behind MTV Music's web presence filmed a short video detailing their goals with the site, and outlined how they'll separate the Music videos from other MTV content to help establish a more defined web presence. I found it worthwhile.
http://www.mtvmusic.com/video/?id=55086
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I don't know how long this site has been live but its got Rick Ashtley at the highest rated video spot, and close to the top spot in most viewed. It seems MTV can't avoid the Rick Roll.
fuckers. Long live youtube.
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Google would use the development tools and integrate the new content into...Youtube!!
My school put up a filter lately that's locked out nearly any proxy, so we can't bypass the blocks on last.fm and Pandora. Looks like I just found my next music provider to work to in networking and Java. :)
Think about it: The Internet is so massive that as one organization blocks one service, one or ten more spring up. Blocks are futile; hopefully they'll learn someday. Discretion is what we should be teaching the children.
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If you want to look at what MTV should be, head on over to Pitchfork TV. Good music, lots of which you've never heard of, live performances, interviews, basically everything MTV used to be. *Somebody* out there still thinks they can make money playing good music.
Who woulda thunk it?
It won't be long before the music videos are taken down and replaced with The Real World and Road Rules.
Is episodes of Beavis and Butthead with the music videos.
Maybe its just me, but all the crap vids on MTV aren't even watchable without Beavis' and Butthead's commentary...
Wall of Voodoo's "Mexican Radio" was a very popular video in the early days of MTV. I don't actually know any of their other songs, more's the pity, but that one got a lot of airtime.
Youtube.
The quality of the video's is so low grain who would want to watch these? I am disappointed.
Even Billy Idol is MIA. As are OMD, most of Adam Ant, and a lot of others.
heh, how redundant.
Music Television music *dot* com
probably too late for anyone to see this post, but does anyone else notice the little re, green, and blue things flashing very quickly all over any video on that site? Possibly so that if anyone ever finds a way to rip the videos off there they'll be able to tie it back to a particular IP.
The technical quality sucks.
Oh well.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
well considering how much they played "Don't you want me baby" and the fact that its still on the radio and that MTV back in the day played a lot of british synthpop, I am kind of surprised it isn't there.
Bring back the old version of slashdot.
"Maybe they should have tried THAT model."
Or maybe you should try the model that involves reading and common sense... then you might have understood that the site is in beta form, and not all videos have been uploaded yet.
You people can bitch about anything can't you? If I gave you five bucks would you bitch that five bucks won't even buy a burger anymore?
It's free music videos! Shut up and watch them!
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