Sarcasm above of course. I hate people telling me how great Apple products are when all I've ever had with them is trouble. Thankfully the only 2 things I've bought for myself (and wife) in the last decade or so are iPods and I regret that purchase. Unfortunately on occassion at a different job I had to do things on a Mac. Only upside was dealing with a hard disk failure on an eBook taught me to stay the hell away from CrApple.
ROFL! This is written by Steve Yegge you fucking moron, he's far, far smarter than you, and he doesn't have to worry about minding what he says nearly as much as someone like you.
Really, I'm not currently in danger of losing my job. He most certainly is.
In any case, why apply as AC unless you're just a troll?
Senior engineers have to address cultural problems at companies. You don't do that by being nice, or respectful.
YES YOU DO. It's called being a professional. There is absolutely no need nor excuse for bullying, or being disrespectful in a professional workplace. And if you don't want to do it for idealistic reasons, remember that in the modern age you're more likely to end up with a lawsuit if that sort of behaviour occurs.
If I see a problem at work I discuss it with my managers or in an open forum. I do not act like a jerk about it, and I NEVER get personal. It's unlikely this guy will get his way and he certainly wouldn't have if it had not gone viral.
I don't know what people are praising this idiot for.
First you do not openly "publicly" speak ill of current or former employees, and I don't mean his gaffe. I mean even if he did limit his words to Google employees. He could have had a frank discussion with his managers, certainly but this is over the top. In any case if he's so sure about what is and isn't right, why isn't he running his own company.
Secondly a lot of what this guy is saying is complete rubbish. You already mentioned his praise of the mess that Facebook is. Among other things he seems to
- approve of Bezo's approach which he characterises 'Do this or you'll get fired. I don't care about you at all'. In fact he seems not to care about employee morale at all. - believe there is only one way for a company to succeed. Clearly not true. - think that tradeoffs of SOA like difficulty debugging are always appropriate. Adds to the last point but is a specific technical failing
The way he writes I wonder if he was drunk when he wrote it. More likely he's just another socially inept geek who's not learned to turn their intelligence on the problem of playing well with others.
Thanks to confirm that *you* have decided what others should do.
(I would like to point out that I did not "decide" anything in the first place, I just made a comment, but this endless loop has now a life of its own).
As I suspect, you're a child, and one that doesn't understand a terminating case in recursion to boot. Have a good day. Don't bite others.
No, the real questions here are: - Why do you care? It is literally none of your business. - What do you think gives you the right to decide for other people what they may or may not do, based only on your opinion that it is a waste of time?
This brilliant comment could very well be the beginning of a recursive and endless loop.
So tell me: why do *you* care why I care? And what do you think gives *you* the right to decide for other people [etc]
There's no recursion here. You have decided what others should do. The only way in which I have decided is that I wish to prevent you from taking away this freedom. If you can't wrap your head around that, think of the GPL. The only restriction it seeks to enforce is that derived code remains free and available for others to modify. If you claim you still can't wrap your head around the difference I suggest your post is no more than an attempt to be childish. "I know you are but what am I?".
The real question here is: why do people need so badly to take pictures and upload them to Facebook all the time? What is the amount of said pictures that are actually looked at by anyone? It's like those thousands of smartphones raised in the air during concerts so people can upload shitty clips to Youtube. Everyone is broadcasting, no one is watching.
People don't have a life anymore. They have pictures and youtube clips.
No, the real questions here are: - Why do you care? It is literally none of your business. - What do you think gives you the right to decide for other people what they may or may not do, based only on your opinion that it is a waste of time?
Way to go idiot AC! He was a kid. Kids don't make good choices without guidance, no matter how intelligent. They simply don't have the experience. Expecting them to do so makes you a moron, and blaming a child for not flourishing and making mature adult choices makes you a heartless one.
I have never EVER heard of a happy genius. I want my children to be intelligent and experience the world at large and love learning the way I do. i want them to be competitive enough in the work place to earn a decent living. I would never wish the label of "genius" on them.
That said I think you do have to pull them out of school but not to home schooling.
School for the gifted is ideal IF it's set up to handle him correctly and he does indeed have peers. College is indeed a good option if the young adults there are supportive.
Downtime is important. He'll be forced to mature more quickly and will be exposed to stuff like people's sexual antics and the less pleasant side of human nature way sooner than he should be BUT the alternative is no interaction whatsoever (home schooling) or bored stupid with children that have nothing in common with him.
A lot of emphasis needed on social interaction and on time to PLAY...whatever form he wishes that play to take. He is still a child.
That, and near the beginning of TFA the guy is actively soliciting someone to contact him if they want to "do a story". I dare not count the occurrences of the word "viral".
Monkeys....Viral....Anyone else thinking of the movie Outbreak? When does Rene Russo show up?
I'm sure there is something I'm missing from this, so what is the point in spending time doing something like this? Programming techniques? Or simply for insight in to random character generation? To me it seems fairly arbitrary and pointless.
Slashdot whoring is the only point as far as I can tell. The "Monkeys" are virtual processes. The methodology is flawed and arbitrary as everyone keeps pointing out. Yet it keeps appearing on slashdot as if this were news for nerds. Heck it's not news for a first year comp sci student.
Regulation is what got us in the financial mess to begin with.
Yes we'd clearly be better off with a law of the jungle type situation. Instead of this civilized post on a blog we could fight to the death dressed like gladiators.
Find my statement ridiculous? I like to reciprocate.
Netscape navigator 9.0.0.6 (I have it installed just for laughs) shows the 3D button but the plugin shows some errors and crashes the browser if you try it anyways.
You're on the wrong site. Saddism is over there....oh wait...whaaa?
I haven't ever had memory leak issues with Firefox, at least not in the last 5 years, so I'm inclined to believe the devs when they say it's shitty extensions that are causing the problems...
So what if it is. THEY designed the plugin system did they not? Is there a way to easily identify and stop offending apps? No. Is there a reason to install Firefox apart from the extensions? Not really. This cop out has always irked me. It is buck passing at it's worst!
I HATE Apple products and could never understand why people would use such a limited device. Until I saw an 18 month old operating an iPhone. The kid could select an app, close it if she picked the wrong one, and open another app. She couldn't read but she could make sense of the pictures.
That is the only reason Apple's inferior crap has come to dominate. Simplicity of interface that is undaunting even to an infant. If you want something more capable, buy a goddamn Netbook. If you want toys for Suri Cruise or Grandma Gump, pay your iTaxes.
These are words that should never be uttered by a parent to a child. Why? Because it promptly snuffs the flame of curiosity. Most parents don't even realise they're doing it. They're just too absorbed in whatever they're doing to notice what they've just said to their curious 3 year old.
You don't have kids do you? Because that is the only way you could possibly fail to realize how much effort and time it takes to raise children, especially young children. It's more important to keep them fed, clothed in good health, out of harms way and socialized than to never say no to them (which only results in spoilt children who expect everyone to drop what they're doing to satisfy their whims). "Shut up" is the only one I'll agree with - ideally a child should never hear that from their parent. But if that is the worst that is said and it's not said at all often it's bad but it's not the end of the world. The other two "Not now" and "I'm busy" are life lessons. The follow up should be "We'll talk about that...." and set a firm time and stick to it (though even that is an ideal and hard to do).
The parents that really irk me are the ones who constantly abuse their kids with the foulest language, tries to guilt them out and take out their own problems on the child, don't have moment for their child's basic needs, and generally treat their children as an unfortunate inconvenience. Plenty of those around.
But that's not robot labor. You are doing the same thing the store clerk would be doing, so it's really about moving labor away from the store and into the customer, which when you put it like that doesn't sound so great for the customer.
The machine is doing the calculation and keeping you honest. So the labour that would have been done by a clerk is divided between yourself and the machine.
I also hate self checkout but where I live it's become impractical to avoid. 20 minute wait vs 2 minutes every time is not acceptable.
Tell that to my iBook that's been in constant use for 9 years with the same battery. It doesn't last as long as it used to, but it still works.
How long did it use to last and how long does it last now? I'm trying to determine if "works" is an appropriate phrase to use here for anything other than boasting that your laptop boots on an old battery.
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It's Apple. It just works. Right?
Sarcasm above of course. I hate people telling me how great Apple products are when all I've ever had with them is trouble. Thankfully the only 2 things I've bought for myself (and wife) in the last decade or so are iPods and I regret that purchase. Unfortunately on occassion at a different job I had to do things on a Mac. Only upside was dealing with a hard disk failure on an eBook taught me to stay the hell away from CrApple.
ROFL! This is written by Steve Yegge you fucking moron, he's far, far smarter than you, and he doesn't have to worry about minding what he says nearly as much as someone like you.
Really, I'm not currently in danger of losing my job. He most certainly is.
In any case, why apply as AC unless you're just a troll?
Senior engineers have to address cultural problems at companies. You don't do that by being nice, or respectful.
YES YOU DO. It's called being a professional. There is absolutely no need nor excuse for bullying, or being disrespectful in a professional workplace. And if you don't want to do it for idealistic reasons, remember that in the modern age you're more likely to end up with a lawsuit if that sort of behaviour occurs.
If I see a problem at work I discuss it with my managers or in an open forum. I do not act like a jerk about it, and I NEVER get personal. It's unlikely this guy will get his way and he certainly wouldn't have if it had not gone viral.
I don't know what people are praising this idiot for.
First you do not openly "publicly" speak ill of current or former employees, and I don't mean his gaffe. I mean even if he did limit his words to Google employees. He could have had a frank discussion with his managers, certainly but this is over the top. In any case if he's so sure about what is and isn't right, why isn't he running his own company.
Secondly a lot of what this guy is saying is complete rubbish. You already mentioned his praise of the mess that Facebook is. Among other things he seems to
- approve of Bezo's approach which he characterises 'Do this or you'll get fired. I don't care about you at all'. In fact he seems not to care about employee morale at all.
- believe there is only one way for a company to succeed. Clearly not true.
- think that tradeoffs of SOA like difficulty debugging are always appropriate. Adds to the last point but is a specific technical failing
The way he writes I wonder if he was drunk when he wrote it. More likely he's just another socially inept geek who's not learned to turn their intelligence on the problem of playing well with others.
He should at least be reprimanded.
no moon!
"I'm your moon, your my moon, we go round and round in circles"
> As I suspect, you're a child
Obviously. You can decide what other people can or cannot do, so you also can decide who is a child and who is not.
> one that doesn't understand a terminating case in recursion to boot
You started an "endless" recursion loop and now you are mad that I won't "terminate" it. If someone does not understand something, it's you.
You forgot to call me a poopie head. Grow up. You can have the last word now. I have more important things to do.
Thanks to confirm that *you* have decided what others should do.
(I would like to point out that I did not "decide" anything in the first place, I just made a comment, but this endless loop has now a life of its own).
As I suspect, you're a child, and one that doesn't understand a terminating case in recursion to boot. Have a good day. Don't bite others.
No, the real questions here are:
- Why do you care? It is literally none of your business.
- What do you think gives you the right to decide for other people what they may or may not do, based only on your opinion that it is a waste of time?
This brilliant comment could very well be the beginning of a recursive and endless loop.
So tell me: why do *you* care why I care? And what do you think gives *you* the right to decide for other people [etc]
There's no recursion here. You have decided what others should do. The only way in which I have decided is that I wish to prevent you from taking away this freedom. If you can't wrap your head around that, think of the GPL. The only restriction it seeks to enforce is that derived code remains free and available for others to modify. If you claim you still can't wrap your head around the difference I suggest your post is no more than an attempt to be childish. "I know you are but what am I?".
The real question here is: why do people need so badly to take pictures and upload them to Facebook all the time? What is the amount of said pictures that are actually looked at by anyone? It's like those thousands of smartphones raised in the air during concerts so people can upload shitty clips to Youtube. Everyone is broadcasting, no one is watching.
People don't have a life anymore. They have pictures and youtube clips.
No, the real questions here are:
- Why do you care? It is literally none of your business.
- What do you think gives you the right to decide for other people what they may or may not do, based only on your opinion that it is a waste of time?
Way to go idiot AC! He was a kid. Kids don't make good choices without guidance, no matter how intelligent. They simply don't have the experience. Expecting them to do so makes you a moron, and blaming a child for not flourishing and making mature adult choices makes you a heartless one.
I have never EVER heard of a happy genius. I want my children to be intelligent and experience the world at large and love learning the way I do. i want them to be competitive enough in the work place to earn a decent living. I would never wish the label of "genius" on them.
That said I think you do have to pull them out of school but not to home schooling.
School for the gifted is ideal IF it's set up to handle him correctly and he does indeed have peers. College is indeed a good option if the young adults there are supportive.
Downtime is important. He'll be forced to mature more quickly and will be exposed to stuff like people's sexual antics and the less pleasant side of human nature way sooner than he should be BUT the alternative is no interaction whatsoever (home schooling) or bored stupid with children that have nothing in common with him.
A lot of emphasis needed on social interaction and on time to PLAY...whatever form he wishes that play to take. He is still a child.
Perhaps he had already decided to do nothing about all those other problems.
That, and near the beginning of TFA the guy is actively soliciting someone to contact him if they want to "do a story". I dare not count the occurrences of the word "viral".
Monkeys....Viral....Anyone else thinking of the movie Outbreak? When does Rene Russo show up?
As an HP employee, I guess I should er, thanks I guess?
No seriously, why does "New HP" deserve to die? We still do some pretty cool things.
Crippling inkjets and holding the ink to ransom is not cool dude. Die, you evil turkeys! Die!!!
I'm sure there is something I'm missing from this, so what is the point in spending time doing something like this? Programming techniques? Or simply for insight in to random character generation? To me it seems fairly arbitrary and pointless.
Slashdot whoring is the only point as far as I can tell. The "Monkeys" are virtual processes. The methodology is flawed and arbitrary as everyone keeps pointing out. Yet it keeps appearing on slashdot as if this were news for nerds. Heck it's not news for a first year comp sci student.
somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed,. that was obviously a sarcastic post and you jump on him...calm the **** down kid.
...or else we'll have to take your prints!!!
I knew there was something odd about the fact that Limewire was claimed to have caused damage in excess of global GDP. Now we have a name for it ;)
We always had a name for it: Fraud.
Why aren't these people being arrested and jailed???
Regulation is what got us in the financial mess to begin with.
Yes we'd clearly be better off with a law of the jungle type situation. Instead of this civilized post on a blog we could fight to the death dressed like gladiators.
Find my statement ridiculous? I like to reciprocate.
Netscape navigator 9.0.0.6 (I have it installed just for laughs) shows the 3D button but the plugin shows some errors and crashes the browser if you try it anyways.
You're on the wrong site. Saddism is over there....oh wait...whaaa?
I haven't ever had memory leak issues with Firefox, at least not in the last 5 years, so I'm inclined to believe the devs when they say it's shitty extensions that are causing the problems...
So what if it is. THEY designed the plugin system did they not? Is there a way to easily identify and stop offending apps? No. Is there a reason to install Firefox apart from the extensions? Not really. This cop out has always irked me. It is buck passing at it's worst!
I don't understand the condescending attitude that many nerds have about iOS devices and their users.
It's simply human nature to resent other people's success
Horse shit. I simply hate being locked out of my own devices and any company that forces me to do things it's way can go to hell.
Plenty of successful people I'm happy for. A megalomaniac who sells dumbed down devices as high fashion ain't on the list.
I HATE Apple products and could never understand why people would use such a limited device. Until I saw an 18 month old operating an iPhone. The kid could select an app, close it if she picked the wrong one, and open another app. She couldn't read but she could make sense of the pictures.
That is the only reason Apple's inferior crap has come to dominate. Simplicity of interface that is undaunting even to an infant. If you want something more capable, buy a goddamn Netbook. If you want toys for Suri Cruise or Grandma Gump, pay your iTaxes.
Shut up. Not now. I'm busy.
These are words that should never be uttered by a parent to a child. Why? Because it promptly snuffs the flame of curiosity. Most parents don't even realise they're doing it. They're just too absorbed in whatever they're doing to notice what they've just said to their curious 3 year old.
You don't have kids do you? Because that is the only way you could possibly fail to realize how much effort and time it takes to raise children, especially young children. It's more important to keep them fed, clothed in good health, out of harms way and socialized than to never say no to them (which only results in spoilt children who expect everyone to drop what they're doing to satisfy their whims). "Shut up" is the only one I'll agree with - ideally a child should never hear that from their parent. But if that is the worst that is said and it's not said at all often it's bad but it's not the end of the world. The other two "Not now" and "I'm busy" are life lessons. The follow up should be "We'll talk about that...." and set a firm time and stick to it (though even that is an ideal and hard to do).
The parents that really irk me are the ones who constantly abuse their kids with the foulest language, tries to guilt them out and take out their own problems on the child, don't have moment for their child's basic needs, and generally treat their children as an unfortunate inconvenience. Plenty of those around.
But that's not robot labor. You are doing the same thing the store clerk would be doing, so it's really about moving labor away from the store and into the customer, which when you put it like that doesn't sound so great for the customer.
The machine is doing the calculation and keeping you honest. So the labour that would have been done by a clerk is divided between yourself and the machine.
I also hate self checkout but where I live it's become impractical to avoid. 20 minute wait vs 2 minutes every time is not acceptable.
Tell that to my iBook that's been in constant use for 9 years with the same battery. It doesn't last as long as it used to, but it still works.
How long did it use to last and how long does it last now? I'm trying to determine if "works" is an appropriate phrase to use here for anything other than boasting that your laptop boots on an old battery.