I don't know why slashdotters seem fixated on classifing logical fallacies when that classification is irrelevant to the argument. I guess there must be a lot of slashdotters taking some sort of formal logic course at university. Formal classification of fallacy can be tricky because a single fallacy can actually belong (sometimes ambiguously, other times less so) to mulitple classes. For example is this also an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority? Probably a little less clear because we're talking about the software itself and not the argument being authoratative.
Anyway it would have been easir to just say "congrats on working out that just because software comes from an official source, that does not mean it is bug free".
1. Total and utter freedom to install anything on your phone. But miss a very important phone call due to a badly programmed application running down the battery or locking up the phone. Just think, that call could be a job offer, an ex-girlfriend wanting some fun or the news that someone is in trouble.
You are talking pure rubbish.
I have plenty of 3rd party apps installed on my current phone and have no such problems. If I encounter a bad app, I uninstall. I don't install apps without knowing something about them.
I have no objection to an apps store, where applications can be approved or rejected. I do have objection to being locked into it and having someone else decide, based on their own agenda, what I'm allowed to run.
Yeah, iPhone is totally going to flop on Verizon...
Who said anything about the iPhone flopping? Are you dense? Need help grasping analogies? There's no guarantee it's going to double games sales either though.
Fundamental question: What makes a smart phone smart? Answer: Ability to run applications you want that actually improve your life in some small way. Taking away the ability and deciding for me what apps I can run and at what cost is a dealbreaker. Same reason I won't touch an iPhone no matter how many lame fart apps appear for it. DRM lockdown turns a smart phone into an idiot phone -a dumb piece of shit. Certainly not worth hundreds of dollars to me. Microsoft, keep it, and shove it!
Back in 2006, when the iPhone was but a gleam in Steve Jobs' eye.
Way back as far as then huh? Way to make a not quite middle age yet guy feel OLD. Man, it must be time for my midlife crisis. Bring on the bimbo and the sports car.
Thing is though that for most users, per-thread performance is the key; and despite AMDs processors being cheaper they still lose on the price/performance in most applications.
It's not even about performance. I got bitten by instability issues after building an AMD 1800+. I still have the machine, but it never got used for anything important. Never again. Intel might be the devil, but they're the stable devil.
Kirk: Bones, there's a... voorwerp... out there. Bones: Why is any object we don't understand always called "a voorwerp"?
Kirk: Because Hanny is a hottie who found something any geek worth their salt thinks is cool, and she can call it anything she likes. Be thankful she didn't call it Hanny's BonesIsAPooHead. Now if only she were green...and had 3 breasts!
Hey, that's one clever way to get your mind off the recession: Play musical chairs with the company execs. Did you see the job open up at Microsoft? Time to apply Dirk! Where she stops nobody knows....weeeehheeeeee! You poor schleps can lose your jobs, we'll just keep going round and round!
The influence of the black hole is strong only at the very center tiny fraction of a percent (by either volume or mass) of the galaxy.
In other words, the black hole has direct influence over a small fraction of the galaxy.
You may as well ask if the solar system were just your own personal accretion disk.
Are you sure it's not like asking the soldiers on the battlefield if they report the the Field Marshall?
You're missing the point entirely. Influence decreases as the square of the distance. There is no cascade effect here. In this case the field marshal and the soliders are 10000 light years apart.
Uh, the dude got a Rhodes scholarship to go study political science and economics at Oxford. That puts him in the top.000001% of all college students, which most people would consider genius level. Amazingly his wife is possibly even smarter. You might not like their politics but to question their intelligence just shows your own ignorance.
Sometimes being a top achiever in highschool doesn't make you the best in the real world.
He was smart enough to become president. Yet he wasn't smart enough not to get caught lying under oath about sex acts with an Intern.
Well, keep in mind, we still can't fully explain galactic rotation curves with GR. It's entirely possible that supermassive black holes have more influence on the galaxy than current theories give them credit for. This is the stuff science is made of!
Well um no. That isn't what's observed. What's observed is the very nearest stars whipping around the supermassive black hole at blistering speeds and no discernable influence further out. Dark matter and galactic rotation curves just don't come into it. Unless your particular brand of MOND is so loopy that things get weaker then stronger again some how. It's just not what we're seeing.
If the tears have a chemical message that is aversive to us, we will perhaps take action to remove the unpleasant stimulus, IE comfort the crying person so they stop producing tears. Also don't neglect that the chemical message contained by the tears is only part of what's going on psychologically when you're fighting with your significant other; the empathetic emotional pain you feel when you see them upset is likely a much stronger driving force.
In short, every crying girl needs a good hot dicking. That is, unless she keeps crying during the dicking, in which case you might be raping her and you should probably stop. Unless, you know, you're both kinky and happen to be into that kind of thing.
Maybe the chemical message in the tears that reduces arousal is part of some defense mechanism against rape?
So much wrong with your statement...
First of all not all sex is about love and emotional empathy. People have sex without caring about each other. People stay together when they no longer care too. Not saying it's right but we're not in a perfect world and this is certainly common enough unfortunately.
Secondly, your assessment of what "every crying girl needs" undoes every positive thing you've said in your other message reminding us of female rights. Personally I think you're over-compensating and are a mysogynist in denial. If that crying girl was your mother/daughter/sister/niece/best female friend would you advocate the same? Would you want someone taking advantage of them?
Thirdly, there is a world of difference between dominance/submission fantasies and actual rape. Very few women actually want to be raped, and they are in need of professional pyschiatric care. Your comments trivialise this. Also there is never a good time or reason to be confused about whether or not there is consent unless you like hurting women and you'd like to end up in prison where you might experience the same.
When a girl is balling her eyes out, if you do care, you try to help her. Sex can be comforting but it can also be damaging. If your first thought is how you can profit from her tears, you're not helping her so don't pretend - in fact you need help yourself.
No. Galaxies aren't just black hole accretion disks.
The influence of the black hole is strong only at the very center tiny fraction of a percent (by either volume or mass) of the galaxy. So much so that we only found them a few decades ago.
You may as well ask if the solar system were just your own personal accretion disk.
Gas and nitrous do not "knock" a woman out between contractions. Choose your words more carefully. "Knock out" means render unconscious. An unconscious woman cannot push. If the woman becomes so exhausted that she isn't conscious you'll find the doctors are very quick to get the baby out by C.
Furthermore past a certain point in the birth, if a woman hasn't been given drugs, she will no longer be offered them no matter how tired she is or in how much pain because it will either hinder not help the delivery, or it won't take effect soon enough to be off help.
By the way if you think the birth was extreme effort, wait till you've been a few months with minimal sleep. 15 hours is not a short labor, but it is by no means anywhere near a record. That doesn't mean it wasn't painful or it wasn't one of the biggest efforts your wife ever made.
Finally, none of the above is meant to detract from you and your wife having a child. Congratulations.
Social networking has never interested me much, but during the birth of my child, my wife was in labour for nearly 15 hours. Normally, we would have had all sorts of friends and family trying to ring us or text us or whatever, just to know what was going on.
Switch off your damn phone. Birth is an intense and personal experience. A few decades ago you'd have been outside in a waiting room yourself with very little information, stupid a system as that was. Now you can be right there beside your wife. You don't want to waste your time with status updates. No one needs to know anything other than she's okay so far but it's a long labour.
Hardly anyone gives a shit about online tweets and web pages when you're alive. No one will give a shit when you're dead. This story is about the novelty of preserving online bits and pieces for one individual. It has no bearing on what one should do in general.
I don't see how playing into your families delusions helps them or you? Why not hunt for the Easter Bunny with them, or Santa... or setup a trap for the tooth fairy.
I see dumb people. I say hire Demi Moore, Bruce Willis, and Ashton Kutcher and have them spend a night in the haunted house to see who kicks who's arse!
If anything they'd be cheaper if sold in a less restricted market place.
So, where is that marketplace? The flea market? If you go to a Bricks-and-Mortar establishment, or to Amazon they will promote some goods over others and refuse to carry some goods. The app store permits competition and that's why it's been a race to the bottom of the profit margin barrel. The only thing between you and the app you want is the rafts of crap.
This is still less restricted than an app store that has zero alternative if your app is not approved or is pulled after the fact. You can always go to another brick and mortar store, set up your own web site etc. If sales are restricted to an app store there is no such option.
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Congratulations on not falling for the genetic fallacy.
I don't know why slashdotters seem fixated on classifing logical fallacies when that classification is irrelevant to the argument. I guess there must be a lot of slashdotters taking some sort of formal logic course at university. Formal classification of fallacy can be tricky because a single fallacy can actually belong (sometimes ambiguously, other times less so) to mulitple classes. For example is this also an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority? Probably a little less clear because we're talking about the software itself and not the argument being authoratative.
Anyway it would have been easir to just say "congrats on working out that just because software comes from an official source, that does not mean it is bug free".
1. Total and utter freedom to install anything on your phone. But miss a very important phone call due to a badly programmed application running down the battery or locking up the phone. Just think, that call could be a job offer, an ex-girlfriend wanting some fun or the news that someone is in trouble.
You are talking pure rubbish.
I have plenty of 3rd party apps installed on my current phone and have no such problems. If I encounter a bad app, I uninstall. I don't install apps without knowing something about them.
I have no objection to an apps store, where applications can be approved or rejected. I do have objection to being locked into it and having someone else decide, based on their own agenda, what I'm allowed to run.
Yeah, iPhone is totally going to flop on Verizon...
Who said anything about the iPhone flopping? Are you dense? Need help grasping analogies? There's no guarantee it's going to double games sales either though.
Fundamental question: What makes a smart phone smart? Answer: Ability to run applications you want that actually improve your life in some small way. Taking away the ability and deciding for me what apps I can run and at what cost is a dealbreaker. Same reason I won't touch an iPhone no matter how many lame fart apps appear for it. DRM lockdown turns a smart phone into an idiot phone -a dumb piece of shit. Certainly not worth hundreds of dollars to me. Microsoft, keep it, and shove it!
...or then again it could just flop. News at 6.
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Back in 2006, when the iPhone was but a gleam in Steve Jobs' eye.
Way back as far as then huh? Way to make a not quite middle age yet guy feel OLD. Man, it must be time for my midlife crisis. Bring on the bimbo and the sports car.
Thing is though that for most users, per-thread performance is the key; and despite AMDs processors being cheaper they still lose on the price/performance in most applications.
It's not even about performance. I got bitten by instability issues after building an AMD 1800+. I still have the machine, but it never got used for anything important. Never again. Intel might be the devil, but they're the stable devil.
Enormously rich person buys large object, news at 10?
Better pictures and video here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055689/
and here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057751/
Kirk: Bones, there's a... voorwerp... out there.
Bones: Why is any object we don't understand always called "a voorwerp"?
Kirk: Because Hanny is a hottie who found something any geek worth their salt thinks is cool, and she can call it anything she likes. Be thankful she didn't call it Hanny's BonesIsAPooHead. Now if only she were green...and had 3 breasts!
Hey, that's one clever way to get your mind off the recession: Play musical chairs with the company execs. Did you see the job open up at Microsoft? Time to apply Dirk! Where she stops nobody knows....weeeehheeeeee! You poor schleps can lose your jobs, we'll just keep going round and round!
The influence of the black hole is strong only at the very center tiny fraction of a percent (by either volume or mass) of the galaxy.
In other words, the black hole has direct influence over a small fraction of the galaxy.
You may as well ask if the solar system were just your own personal accretion disk.
Are you sure it's not like asking the soldiers on the battlefield if they report the the Field Marshall?
You're missing the point entirely. Influence decreases as the square of the distance. There is no cascade effect here. In this case the field marshal and the soliders are 10000 light years apart.
Uh, the dude got a Rhodes scholarship to go study political science and economics at Oxford. That puts him in the top .000001% of all college students, which most people would consider genius level. Amazingly his wife is possibly even smarter. You might not like their politics but to question their intelligence just shows your own ignorance.
Sometimes being a top achiever in highschool doesn't make you the best in the real world.
He was smart enough to become president. Yet he wasn't smart enough not to get caught lying under oath about sex acts with an Intern.
Wasn't the whole point of these new phones all the little windows constantly being updated with the latest Twitter, etc data?
Just what I wanted. Now it's not just the wife, kids and pets addicted to facebook, but my phone too! ;(
That's less than 2 million miles, or .05 AU from the sun.
Quite toasty.
They're quoting a likely surface temp of 2500F - more like molten than toasty.
Well, keep in mind, we still can't fully explain galactic rotation curves with GR. It's entirely possible that supermassive black holes have more influence on the galaxy than current theories give them credit for. This is the stuff science is made of!
Well um no. That isn't what's observed. What's observed is the very nearest stars whipping around the supermassive black hole at blistering speeds and no discernable influence further out. Dark matter and galactic rotation curves just don't come into it. Unless your particular brand of MOND is so loopy that things get weaker then stronger again some how. It's just not what we're seeing.
If the tears have a chemical message that is aversive to us, we will perhaps take action to remove the unpleasant stimulus, IE comfort the crying person so they stop producing tears. Also don't neglect that the chemical message contained by the tears is only part of what's going on psychologically when you're fighting with your significant other; the empathetic emotional pain you feel when you see them upset is likely a much stronger driving force.
In short, every crying girl needs a good hot dicking. That is, unless she keeps crying during the dicking, in which case you might be raping her and you should probably stop. Unless, you know, you're both kinky and happen to be into that kind of thing.
Maybe the chemical message in the tears that reduces arousal is part of some defense mechanism against rape?
So much wrong with your statement...
First of all not all sex is about love and emotional empathy. People have sex without caring about each other. People stay together when they no longer care too. Not saying it's right but we're not in a perfect world and this is certainly common enough unfortunately.
Secondly, your assessment of what "every crying girl needs" undoes every positive thing you've said in your other message reminding us of female rights. Personally I think you're over-compensating and are a mysogynist in denial. If that crying girl was your mother/daughter/sister/niece/best female friend would you advocate the same? Would you want someone taking advantage of them?
Thirdly, there is a world of difference between dominance/submission fantasies and actual rape. Very few women actually want to be raped, and they are in need of professional pyschiatric care. Your comments trivialise this. Also there is never a good time or reason to be confused about whether or not there is consent unless you like hurting women and you'd like to end up in prison where you might experience the same.
When a girl is balling her eyes out, if you do care, you try to help her. Sex can be comforting but it can also be damaging. If your first thought is how you can profit from her tears, you're not helping her so don't pretend - in fact you need help yourself.
No. Galaxies aren't just black hole accretion disks.
The influence of the black hole is strong only at the very center tiny fraction of a percent (by either volume or mass) of the galaxy. So much so that we only found them a few decades ago.
You may as well ask if the solar system were just your own personal accretion disk.
Geez, guys. Mental age should be at least 16, mental altitude should be at least a foot above the gutter.
Why? Being old sucks. And the gutter is nice and warm. ;-)
Gas and nitrous do not "knock" a woman out between contractions. Choose your words more carefully. "Knock out" means render unconscious. An unconscious woman cannot push. If the woman becomes so exhausted that she isn't conscious you'll find the doctors are very quick to get the baby out by C.
Furthermore past a certain point in the birth, if a woman hasn't been given drugs, she will no longer be offered them no matter how tired she is or in how much pain because it will either hinder not help the delivery, or it won't take effect soon enough to be off help.
By the way if you think the birth was extreme effort, wait till you've been a few months with minimal sleep. 15 hours is not a short labor, but it is by no means anywhere near a record. That doesn't mean it wasn't painful or it wasn't one of the biggest efforts your wife ever made.
Finally, none of the above is meant to detract from you and your wife having a child. Congratulations.
A few decades ago, they also didn't have wonderful drugs that would knock her out between contractions.
You've never been to a birth have you? You can't safely "knock out" a pregnant woman unless you plan to deliver quickly by C-section.
^ this,
Social networking has never interested me much, but during the birth of my child, my wife was in labour for nearly 15 hours. Normally, we would have had all sorts of friends and family trying to ring us or text us or whatever, just to know what was going on.
Switch off your damn phone. Birth is an intense and personal experience. A few decades ago you'd have been outside in a waiting room yourself with very little information, stupid a system as that was. Now you can be right there beside your wife. You don't want to waste your time with status updates. No one needs to know anything other than she's okay so far but it's a long labour.
Hardly anyone gives a shit about online tweets and web pages when you're alive. No one will give a shit when you're dead. This story is about the novelty of preserving online bits and pieces for one individual. It has no bearing on what one should do in general.
Parent++.
I don't see how playing into your families delusions helps them or you? Why not hunt for the Easter Bunny with them, or Santa... or setup a trap for the tooth fairy.
I see dumb people. I say hire Demi Moore, Bruce Willis, and Ashton Kutcher and have them spend a night in the haunted house to see who kicks who's arse!
Obligatory!
If anything they'd be cheaper if sold in a less restricted market place.
So, where is that marketplace? The flea market? If you go to a Bricks-and-Mortar establishment, or to Amazon they will promote some goods over others and refuse to carry some goods. The app store permits competition and that's why it's been a race to the bottom of the profit margin barrel. The only thing between you and the app you want is the rafts of crap.
This is still less restricted than an app store that has zero alternative if your app is not approved or is pulled after the fact. You can always go to another brick and mortar store, set up your own web site etc. If sales are restricted to an app store there is no such option.