is why having Government run everything is a bad idea. Sure, you get your pro-science Obama (well... pro some selected kinds of science at least, try getting him to approve research into reprocessing nuclear waste and he'll give you a response that's the left-wing equivalent of this guy's speech), but then you get these wackos.
The typical Slashdot solution is to put the people they disagree with into concentration camps in the name of "science", but the smart solution is to make it so that people can be free to be whackos without wielding huge amounts of power over everyone else.
Don't worry, if this exact same story were written about Romney all we'd hear about is how uncreative, unfeeling, and un-individualistic Romney is, and how he wants to enslave all of us to his evil conformity. He'd be compared (in a condescending and insulting way) to some back-woods evangelical that wears the same clothes all the time instead of Saint Jobs, even though both people act the same way.
When Obama does it though, it's yet another sign of his greatness and how he is literally better than all of us and deserves our worship now that we've abandoned those irrational "religions" of the past.
Thank Obama that Slashdot only focuses on the vital issues of our day like how Obama is superior because of how he dresses and not on those stupid puff-pieces that Faux News is pushing about what was said at some so-called "debate" last night. Obviously Obama won in a landslide because Romney is a stupid Christian, so we won't go into a rational discussion about what they actually said because only right-wing science hating nazis question the Word of Obama..
Uh.. as many people on Slashdot point out all the time, *LOTS* of people play online games. So what do you do if you are a spy and want to communicate without raising suspicion... do what *LOTS* of other people do and blend in.
James Bond is not a real spy, Joe Blow, the average guy who you pass on the street without even noticing is what a real spy looks like. If it is expected that a white guy in his 20s - 30s and who is kind of nerdy will play video games, then that is an excellent thing for an operative to do so that he blends in with every expected stereotype.
I'm not saying that this particular guy was doing it, but for you to call it ridiculous is patently silly... especially given the credulity of people on this website to every single conspiracy theory that supports the pet-prejudices that are promoted around here.
Assume that Glenn Beck was 100% dead serious in his assertion:
1. Of course he's nuts, but do you think it would be impossible for the CIA to use an online game like Eve to communicate in some circumstances? Considering the conspiracy theories that get modded +5 on this website whenever somebody accuses Bush of plotting 9/11 it is not very far-fetched. That's not to say that Eve online itself is a CIA front any more than the phone company is a CIA front, but it could still be used.
2. The Obama administration insisted publicly and repeatedly that this attack had absolutely nothing at all to do with terrorism, but it was just some stupid Internet video that magically turned the Libyans into Kill-Bots and we need to curtail the First Amendment in the name of "tolerance" RIGHT NOW!...
Oh... until their own intelligence analysts and even the Libyan Government bascially embarrased them into admitting that an attack that used heavy weaponry and was obviously planned well in advance to coincide with the 9/11 anniversary was actually related to real terrorists and not just a spontaneous reaction to a stupid Youtube video.
Now here's my point: How many people on this site will insult Glenn Beck, some nut on the radio who has no real power, while giving the White House a free pass?
Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm" which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot. He might have been serious or he could totally have been joking and the quote in the article is useless for proving either one.
Considering the inability of the supposed "geniuses" on this site to spot an obvious joke that Mitt Romney made last week, I'll do the politically incorrect thing and not have the Pavlovian foaming at the mouth reaction to what the ringleaders on this site want, but instead rely on these things called "facts" before making a judgment.
The question I have is how it's less expensive (in the long run) to lay a chip out by hand once instead of improving your VLSI layout software forever. NP classification notwithstanding.
It's easy moron... unless you plan on being a one-hit wonder, you'll most likely want to eventually come up *another chip* that will require the hand-layout process to be made all over again! Wow!
I've done quite a bit of code but I fully admit to being a lightweight at GUI development. Having said that, QML makes the design of the interface pretty easy... even including wacky animations & stuff. Here's a link to some Python based QML tutorials: http://www.pyside.org/docs/pyside/tutorials/index.html
How about this one:
KDE 4 has issues with displaying changes made to files in Dolphin. Sometimes the changes show up fine, other times they don't and you have to refresh manually.
Oh and... "Ubuntu" because that magic word has to be inserted for Slashdots "editors" (and I use the term loosely) to care.
Try running a moderately intense game and watch the battery drain.
I have... on my Motorola phone running on an ARM CPU using an embedded GPU that happens to be made by the exact same company that makes embedded GPUs for Medfield phones... So please explain to me how the exact same GPU magically uses zero power when it happens to be sitting next to an ARM core vs. an Intel core... your new learning amazes me!
[quote]Since Intel cannot or do not want to manufacture CPUs cheaper than ARM licensees plus they still have lousy performance/watt[/quote]
Show me an ARM solution with better performance per watt than a standard Ivy Bridge Xeon server (or even Sandy Bridge)... and yes, I am *waiting* for you to dredge up those idiotic Calxeda "benchmarks" that claim Sandy Bridge runs at maximum TDP while running at a load of 15% and being substantially faster than Calxeda's yet-to-be-released quad-core ARM server running at 100% utilization on all 4 cores... BRING IT ON.
You have confused performance per watt with total power consumption. ARM is very good at the latter, but is by no means the best at the former.
Uh... Fanboi much? Those Tegra 3 benchmarks have been shown to be *extreme* wishful thinking on Nvidia's part, and if you are naive enough to believe that Intel's lowest-power CPU burns 10 watts then I have a bridge to sell you...
Notice how the display is quickly dominating the power consumption? The whole ARM vs. x86 power consumption bit is bunk. Intel has proven it can be competitive with ARM, and even if ARM could magically make a chip that uses zero power, your display isn't going to suck down any less juice based on the instruction set of the processor running your device....
If this thing truly "warps" space (no idea if it does) you could travel at effectively faster than light speed through a vacuum while never actually accelerating past the speed of light doing it...
Cheaper products that tend to have shorter lifespans because they have not reached the "good enough" level of performance and because teenagers tend to drop them requiring more replacements are sold in greater quantities than more expensive products that have reached OK performance levels and aren't trashed as frequently! Film at 11!
If it were possible to give a +6, then your post would deserve one...
One other thing about the pro-ARM propaganda on this site practically every day: How come the exact same people throwing a hissy-fit over Clovertrail never make a peep when ARM bends over backwards to cooperate with companies like Nokia & Apple whose ARM chips don't work with Linux in the slightest? By comparison, making a few tweaks to turn on Cloverfield's power saving features will be trivial compared to trying to get Linux running on an iPhone 5's A6 SoC....
I mean, we all know it was those evil pro-MS Intel types who named their chips "Pentium XP" and launched them just a couple of weeks after M$ launched Windows XP!
Oh, and Jerry Sanders *never ever* testified in favor of M$ at that Anti-Trust trial, that was some Intel evil guy.
And AMD Never worked out a deal with M$ to have it push 64-bit windows onto AMD's 64-bit CPUs, that was Intel, because it was evil Intel that forced us to upgrade x86 to 64 bits intead of using some miracle architecture.
Yup, AMD has a long history of fighting tooth & nail for the forces of good to stop Microsoft at every possible turn! That's why I know this story can't possibly be true, especially if it is being put forth by those known-pro Wintel fanbois that work in AMD's PR department...
WRONG. I'm saying that remote applications should be displayed *the right way* and Wayland does nothing to prevent the ability to display remote applications *the right way*.
When a stupid browser extension does a better job of cross-platform remote GUI management than X, it is time to do something better than X instead of pretending that we reached a magical Utopia in 1985 and that anybody using facts and logic to disagree is some sort of religious heretic.
X11 as a remote access scheme is actually craptacular in many ways, with two listed below as a non-complete list:
1. Ever try actually using X11 for anything even remotely graphically complex over even a rather decent broadband connection? You could also gouge your eyes out for a similar effect! Before you say how great X11 is over your cable modem: a. If it were so great, then Nomachine would never have come into existence and NX would not exist. b. If I had a dime for every time somebody says that X11 is great *because he is forwarding X-terms over it using an @#K%JJ SSH tunnel* then I'd be rich and they'd be put into a mental asylum where they belong. I'm talking about *real* graphical applications being shot over a broadband network here, otherwise there is no point to "network transparency" to begin with.
2. Real simple scenario that I've known can't work for over 10 years and for which there is no solution available using X:
a. I run a program remoted to my desktop. Yay network transparency (blah blah blah).
b. I get up from my desk and grab my notebook/tablet/smartphone/etc. and I want to simply transfer the remotely displayed application to the other device.. *cannot be done*. Note how I spotted this problem 10 years ago? That was long before everyone was carrying around smartphones/tablets/etc., I was way ahead of the curve and this issue has only gotten more important over time.
c. What's really hilarious is how many people have called me stupid or moronic for thinking that actually have *real* network transparency over X instead of the crap version from 1985 we are stuck with now would be a good thing.. and many of these same people lovingly brag about how they use screen all the time....
That's 2 issues.. there are many more. People who seem to despise any OS other than Linux for "not innovating" really tick me off when they try to kill the first real piece of innovation in the Linux graphics stack that we have seen in this century.
Calling this thing a cluster.. fine. Calling it interesting for students to learn about how clusters work... fine. Calling it a supercomputer? Maybe if the University of Southampton got sucked into a time vortex to the early 1990's, and even then while the raw theoretical number crunching capability of the RPis would be impressive, the lackluster I/O and interconnects would mean that even supercomputers of that time would still win on many common workloads.
I've done a tiny amount of dabbling in Android code and it reminded me of how much I miss Python. It's a shame that a walled-garden setup like iOS is actually friendlier to alternate languages than Android.
Grandparent poster is right on 32 bits and anonymous coward is a stupid marketing drone. Arm recently released a specification for chips that will use 64 bit addressing... when they finally ship in 2015 or so, making them about 12 years late to the party* after the launch of the Athlon 64.
* Yes I know that 64 bit was around much much longer than 2003, but I'm talking about the consumer space here.
If a mobile celeron does not have enough horsepower then don't expect ARM to come up and replace it (unless this mobile Celeron is P3 or maybe P4 era mobile celeron).
As a point of reference, my 2.5 year old Atom server has over 5 times the single-threaded performance of my Raspberry Pi... and the Atom has 2 cores. Yes I know that my Raspberry Pi does not represent the fastest ARM solution available, but the faster ARM setups ain't 5x faster on a per-core basis either.. and that's just to catch up to an obsolete Atom...
Though hast profaned the name of the HOLY PI with thine blasphemous use of facts! We cast thee into the deepest pits of Hell amongst the Beagle Board and Panda Board demons!
Although it was a Uranium reactor and not plutonium. Moral of the story: The radioactivity caused mutant Canadians to have one hockey-stick shaped arm and another arm perfectly shaped to hold a beer. It was considered the greatest even in Canadian history.
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is why having Government run everything is a bad idea. Sure, you get your pro-science Obama (well... pro some selected kinds of science at least, try getting him to approve research into reprocessing nuclear waste and he'll give you a response that's the left-wing equivalent of this guy's speech), but then you get these wackos.
The typical Slashdot solution is to put the people they disagree with into concentration camps in the name of "science", but the smart solution is to make it so that people can be free to be whackos without wielding huge amounts of power over everyone else.
Don't worry, if this exact same story were written about Romney all we'd hear about is how uncreative, unfeeling, and un-individualistic Romney is, and how he wants to enslave all of us to his evil conformity. He'd be compared (in a condescending and insulting way) to some back-woods evangelical that wears the same clothes all the time instead of Saint Jobs, even though both people act the same way.
When Obama does it though, it's yet another sign of his greatness and how he is literally better than all of us and deserves our worship now that we've abandoned those irrational "religions" of the past.
Thank Obama that Slashdot only focuses on the vital issues of our day like how Obama is superior because of how he dresses and not on those stupid puff-pieces that Faux News is pushing about what was said at some so-called "debate" last night. Obviously Obama won in a landslide because Romney is a stupid Christian, so we won't go into a rational discussion about what they actually said because only right-wing science hating nazis question the Word of Obama..
Uh.. as many people on Slashdot point out all the time, *LOTS* of people play online games. So what do you do if you are a spy and want to communicate without raising suspicion... do what *LOTS* of other people do and blend in.
James Bond is not a real spy, Joe Blow, the average guy who you pass on the street without even noticing is what a real spy looks like. If it is expected that a white guy in his 20s - 30s and who is kind of nerdy will play video games, then that is an excellent thing for an operative to do so that he blends in with every expected stereotype.
I'm not saying that this particular guy was doing it, but for you to call it ridiculous is patently silly... especially given the credulity of people on this website to every single conspiracy theory that supports the pet-prejudices that are promoted around here.
Assume that Glenn Beck was 100% dead serious in his assertion:
1. Of course he's nuts, but do you think it would be impossible for the CIA to use an online game like Eve to communicate in some circumstances? Considering the conspiracy theories that get modded +5 on this website whenever somebody accuses Bush of plotting 9/11 it is not very far-fetched. That's not to say that Eve online itself is a CIA front any more than the phone company is a CIA front, but it could still be used.
2. The Obama administration insisted publicly and repeatedly that this attack had absolutely nothing at all to do with terrorism, but it was just some stupid Internet video that magically turned the Libyans into Kill-Bots and we need to curtail the First Amendment in the name of "tolerance" RIGHT NOW!...
Oh... until their own intelligence analysts and even the Libyan Government bascially embarrased them into admitting that an attack that used heavy weaponry and was obviously planned well in advance to coincide with the 9/11 anniversary was actually related to real terrorists and not just a spontaneous reaction to a stupid Youtube video.
Now here's my point: How many people on this site will insult Glenn Beck, some nut on the radio who has no real power, while giving the White House a free pass?
Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm" which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot. He might have been serious or he could totally have been joking and the quote in the article is useless for proving either one.
Considering the inability of the supposed "geniuses" on this site to spot an obvious joke that Mitt Romney made last week, I'll do the politically incorrect thing and not have the Pavlovian foaming at the mouth reaction to what the ringleaders on this site want, but instead rely on these things called "facts" before making a judgment.
It's easy moron... unless you plan on being a one-hit wonder, you'll most likely want to eventually come up *another chip* that will require the hand-layout process to be made all over again! Wow!
I've done quite a bit of code but I fully admit to being a lightweight at GUI development. Having said that, QML makes the design of the interface pretty easy... even including wacky animations & stuff. Here's a link to some Python based QML tutorials: http://www.pyside.org/docs/pyside/tutorials/index.html
How about this one:
KDE 4 has issues with displaying changes made to files in Dolphin. Sometimes the changes show up fine, other times they don't and you have to refresh manually.
Oh and... "Ubuntu" because that magic word has to be inserted for Slashdots "editors" (and I use the term loosely) to care.
There! Now give me a front-page story!
Try running a moderately intense game and watch the battery drain.
I have... on my Motorola phone running on an ARM CPU using an embedded GPU that happens to be made by the exact same company that makes embedded GPUs for Medfield phones... So please explain to me how the exact same GPU magically uses zero power when it happens to be sitting next to an ARM core vs. an Intel core... your new learning amazes me!
[quote]Since Intel cannot or do not want to manufacture CPUs cheaper than ARM licensees plus they still have lousy performance/watt[/quote]
Show me an ARM solution with better performance per watt than a standard Ivy Bridge Xeon server (or even Sandy Bridge)... and yes, I am *waiting* for you to dredge up those idiotic Calxeda "benchmarks" that claim Sandy Bridge runs at maximum TDP while running at a load of 15% and being substantially faster than Calxeda's yet-to-be-released quad-core ARM server running at 100% utilization on all 4 cores... BRING IT ON.
You have confused performance per watt with total power consumption. ARM is very good at the latter, but is by no means the best at the former.
Uh... Fanboi much? Those Tegra 3 benchmarks have been shown to be *extreme* wishful thinking on Nvidia's part, and if you are naive enough to believe that Intel's lowest-power CPU burns 10 watts then I have a bridge to sell you...
Look at the pie charts on this page: http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Intels-Game-Changer-One-Size-Fits-All-Haswell/?page=4
Notice how the display is quickly dominating the power consumption? The whole ARM vs. x86 power consumption bit is bunk. Intel has proven it can be competitive with ARM, and even if ARM could magically make a chip that uses zero power, your display isn't going to suck down any less juice based on the instruction set of the processor running your device....
If this thing truly "warps" space (no idea if it does) you could travel at effectively faster than light speed through a vacuum while never actually accelerating past the speed of light doing it...
Cheaper products that tend to have shorter lifespans because they have not reached the "good enough" level of performance and because teenagers tend to drop them requiring more replacements are sold in greater quantities than more expensive products that have reached OK performance levels and aren't trashed as frequently! Film at 11!
If it were possible to give a +6, then your post would deserve one...
One other thing about the pro-ARM propaganda on this site practically every day: How come the exact same people throwing a hissy-fit over Clovertrail never make a peep when ARM bends over backwards to cooperate with companies like Nokia & Apple whose ARM chips don't work with Linux in the slightest? By comparison, making a few tweaks to turn on Cloverfield's power saving features will be trivial compared to trying to get Linux running on an iPhone 5's A6 SoC....
I mean, we all know it was those evil pro-MS Intel types who named their chips "Pentium XP" and launched them just a couple of weeks after M$ launched Windows XP!
Oh, and Jerry Sanders *never ever* testified in favor of M$ at that Anti-Trust trial, that was some Intel evil guy.
And AMD Never worked out a deal with M$ to have it push 64-bit windows onto AMD's 64-bit CPUs, that was Intel, because it was evil Intel that forced us to upgrade x86 to 64 bits intead of using some miracle architecture.
Yup, AMD has a long history of fighting tooth & nail for the forces of good to stop Microsoft at every possible turn! That's why I know this story can't possibly be true, especially if it is being put forth by those known-pro Wintel fanbois that work in AMD's PR department...
WRONG.
I'm saying that remote applications should be displayed *the right way* and Wayland does nothing to prevent the ability to display remote applications *the right way*.
Go look at the chrome remote desktop extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gbchcmhmhahfdphkhkmpfmihenigjmpp
When a stupid browser extension does a better job of cross-platform remote GUI management than X, it is time to do something better than X instead of pretending that we reached a magical Utopia in 1985 and that anybody using facts and logic to disagree is some sort of religious heretic.
X11 as a remote access scheme is actually craptacular in many ways, with two listed below as a non-complete list:
1. Ever try actually using X11 for anything even remotely graphically complex over even a rather decent broadband connection? You could also gouge your eyes out for a similar effect! Before you say how great X11 is over your cable modem:
a. If it were so great, then Nomachine would never have come into existence and NX would not exist.
b. If I had a dime for every time somebody says that X11 is great *because he is forwarding X-terms over it using an @#K%JJ SSH tunnel* then I'd be rich and they'd be put into a mental asylum where they belong. I'm talking about *real* graphical applications being shot over a broadband network here, otherwise there is no point to "network transparency" to begin with.
2. Real simple scenario that I've known can't work for over 10 years and for which there is no solution available using X:
a. I run a program remoted to my desktop. Yay network transparency (blah blah blah).
b. I get up from my desk and grab my notebook/tablet/smartphone/etc. and I want to simply transfer the remotely displayed application to the other device.. *cannot be done*.
Note how I spotted this problem 10 years ago? That was long before everyone was carrying around smartphones/tablets/etc., I was way ahead of the curve and this issue has only gotten more important over time.
c. What's really hilarious is how many people have called me stupid or moronic for thinking that actually have *real* network transparency over X instead of the crap version from 1985 we are stuck with now would be a good thing.. and many of these same people lovingly brag about how they use screen all the time....
That's 2 issues.. there are many more. People who seem to despise any OS other than Linux for "not innovating" really tick me off when they try to kill the first real piece of innovation in the Linux graphics stack that we have seen in this century.
Calling this thing a cluster.. fine.
Calling it interesting for students to learn about how clusters work... fine.
Calling it a supercomputer? Maybe if the University of Southampton got sucked into a time vortex to the early 1990's, and even then while the raw theoretical number crunching capability of the RPis would be impressive, the lackluster I/O and interconnects would mean that even supercomputers of that time would still win on many common workloads.
You see, now that my desktop is slower than an Android toy tablet, I finally have justification for an upgrade to Haswell next year.
I've done a tiny amount of dabbling in Android code and it reminded me of how much I miss Python. It's a shame that a walled-garden setup like iOS is actually friendlier to alternate languages than Android.
Grandparent poster is right on 32 bits and anonymous coward is a stupid marketing drone. Arm recently released a specification for chips that will use 64 bit addressing... when they finally ship in 2015 or so, making them about 12 years late to the party* after the launch of the Athlon 64.
* Yes I know that 64 bit was around much much longer than 2003, but I'm talking about the consumer space here.
If a mobile celeron does not have enough horsepower then don't expect ARM to come up and replace it (unless this mobile Celeron is P3 or maybe P4 era mobile celeron).
As a point of reference, my 2.5 year old Atom server has over 5 times the single-threaded performance of my Raspberry Pi... and the Atom has 2 cores. Yes I know that my Raspberry Pi does not represent the fastest ARM solution available, but the faster ARM setups ain't 5x faster on a per-core basis either.. and that's just to catch up to an obsolete Atom...
Though hast profaned the name of the HOLY PI with thine blasphemous use of facts! We cast thee into the deepest pits of Hell amongst the Beagle Board and Panda Board demons!
All praised be THE PI!
RORSAT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosmos_954
Although it was a Uranium reactor and not plutonium.
Moral of the story: The radioactivity caused mutant Canadians to have one hockey-stick shaped arm and another arm perfectly shaped to hold a beer. It was considered the greatest even in Canadian history.