Do as we say or we'll confiscate your business, your assets, imprison your family, and beat you senseless
That's about how I'd figure that conversation would go in Putin's Russia.
The real question here is: In 2017, can we trust ANYTHING to run on our computers that we didn't compile ourselves, after personally vetting the sourcecode -- and then, can we trust the compiler to not be compromised, too? Really, honestly, seriously, I'm starting to feel like we're getting to that point -- and even if what we're running isn't compromised as soon as it's installed, there doesn't seem to be much of anything that can prevent the mahcine from being compromised externally, unless you're never connected to the Internet, ever -- and even then, security researchers keep exposing exploits that can compromise a computer that's completely air-gapped.
You actually think what we have now is 'a competitive market'? How adorable you believe that. What we have are a few 350-pound inmates serving life sentences without parole, and like it or not you're going to be their 'girlfriend', if you catch my drift. The way the system is now is broken in fundamental ways because of monopolies (or near-monopolies), and give them a few years and there won't be ANY competition whatsoever, it'll be just one company and they'll do what they please with impugnity. Would you rather have things that way? Don't even try to claim it won't happen, either, it's inevitable unless something changes -- and that means some regulation, not de-regulating it.
I'll say the same thing to you I just said to someone else in this thread: Try, for a minute, to think beyond our current reality. The 'way things are and always have been' doesn't need to define us unless we let it.
I don't store passwords in a browser, and I sure as anything NEVER store 'payment information' in a browser. I'd sooner print up 1000 copies of all my CC information and post them on lampposts and grocery store bulletin boards, with "Please feel free to spend my money for me!" printed on them.
Does it make you evil? No. However according to marketers, their shills, rabid fanbois with more money than sense, and mindless early-adopters (who just have to have the latest regardless of need, sense, or if it's actually good) you're a 'luddite' and likely 'too old to understand' and will be taunted with accusations of telling people to 'get off your lawn', and the less polite of them will tell you you're 'old, and are going to DIE, SOON', and so on.
However in reality what you are, is an intelligent person, capable of critical thinking, who sees no reason to waste money on something that really doesn't bring you more benefit. It works for you, and so long as it continues to do that, why change it?
I rather agree with you. Sales of something like a TV must be more or less a flatline, unless you can come up with something earth-shaking that no one else has -- and when there is a standard you have to follow for your TV to even operate, there's no room for that, not really. So hey, how about we push for a new standard every few years, so we make everyone want to throw away their perfectly-good working TV and buy a whole new one, so they can Keep Up With The Joneses? We all see that media hype can convince people of almost anything (like 'AI' being a real thing, or self-driving cars actually being safe and effective, or Trump being a good choice for POTUS) so it should be a snap to convince people that they need MORE resolution on their TV than they can actually discern with the naked eye, right? Audiophiles would agree with me considering how easily they can be convinced to buy $4000 speaker cables.
No, I'm not really being funny. But I am being sarcastic as hell.
Why stop there?
How about all the above, plus the entire medical industry, including especially the pharmaceautical industry, be mandated as not-for-profit? Take greed out of the equation for everything that is classified as a necessity, and you come closer to the Star Trek vision of a post-scarcity, utopian society.
Of course the main problem is getting the rest of the world to go along with this, and getting rich conservative types, who would much rather we return the world to monarchies and feudalism, to not go around waving their arms screaming "Socialism!!!" and spending their considerable monetary and political resources shutting it down and permanently discrediting anyone who supported it.
If you feel that way about it then sell the used panels to someone for a reasonable price, it's not like they reach a point where the output is zero, they just degrade over time. If you got 10% of your original purchase price after 20 years of use you'd still be doing better than just scrapping them, and especially with the way things are going economy-wise 20 years from now someone will be grateful as hell to even get mostly-used up panels for a cheap price because that's all they can afford and it'd be better than nothing.
Given the privacy concerns, lawmakers are worried that the always-on device could build an "in-depth profile of children and their family."
Well OF COURSE that's precisely what they're doing, regardless of what they 'officially' say about it. Wecome to the 21st Century, where humans are just another PRODUCT to be cultivated and SOLD. They've even done away with the need for numbers tattooed on the backs of everyones necks, they'll just go by IP address instead.
..but I diverge from my main subject. We do not need machines raising children! If you can't be bothered to give the human life you made personal attention during it's growth and development, then maybe you shoudn't have had children in the first place! Children are not 'accessories', or 'pets', or a 'hobby'; they are a full time serious JOB and you need to take it seriously. No so-called 'AI'/surveillance devices 'monitoring' your kid, do it yourself or don't have them in the first place!
LOL I'm a 'bitter husk of a man', am I? No, I'm scoffing and laughing at you overgrown children with your pricey toys because you're ridiculous. You wander through the world staring at your phones and walk right into stationary objects, how hilarious is that? If you lose your shiny toy or the battery is dead, you're like heroin addicts who didn't get their fix fast enough, actual withdrawal symptoms. Pathetic, comical, laughable. Fools.
They'll have paid for themselves by then, there'll be more mass production of them compared to now so they'll be cheaper, they'll likely be more efficient anyway and therefore a better value for the price, and I'd think the old ones could be much more easily and thoroughly recycled than many other pieces of tech people toss in the e-waste bin, in fact I'll bet there'll be a 'core value' you'll get out of them *because* of the valuable materials in them.
Yeah? I recommend you stop lying to yourself why you 'have to have' a smartphone when you clearly don't NEED one -- and you're just representative of a whole crowd of people who just like SHINY THINGS and don't care how you're getting screwed over in the process. Don't even give a shit what you think of me or what I have to say because I goddamned well know I'm right.
Intuitively, I think it might be a symptom of chronic stress. Since 2016 I think everyone in this country, with the possible exception of the totally uninformed, have been under a great deal of stress from multiple sources, and it's just getting worse and worse as time goes by.
1 and 2: Does your company pay for your phone and service? No? Then why are you giving that to them for free? Make them pay for it.
3. You can do that with a $50 dumbphone.
4. Google maps.
5. LOL these days? You're dumb to do that. Take them to the bank or put them in the ATM. Besides how many checks do you get?
6. Again: does your job pay for the phone and service?
7. You can do that on a regular computer, you don't need a phone to do that.
8. Maybe if you didn't pay $1000 for a phone you could afford to drive yourself.
9 and 10. So you intentionally install surveillance devices all through your home? Beginning to see a pattern here..
11. You don't need a smartphone to do that! Paper and pencil. Or just keep track in your head!
12. So you're a helicopter parent who spies on his kids? Nice way to teach them the value of trust.
Nope. None of the above are compelling. Also I think you spend more time using it as a toy and naturally don't want to admit it and/or can't handle the peer pressure if someone you knew 'caught' you with a sensible dumbphone.
What's not clear from the article is whether he's donating them or whether he expects to be paid for them later. I know they're not cheap but under the circumstances I'd hope he's giving them away for free.
Nope. Smart people who have money are rich because they don't waste money on 'luxury' items that serve no real purpose. They buy what works and what is necessary, live in reasonable homes, drive reasonable cars, and have millions in the bank and in investments -- and nobody would guess unless they knew for a fact. Conspicuous consumption is a real thing, and it's something that happens in this country that makes so many other countries hate America and Americans.
Does your $1000 phone make you money? Does it even make you enough money to pay for itself? Or is it just a perpetual black hole for your money every month for overpriced dataplans so you can watch movies, or porn, or play games, or whatever it is you actually use it for? Name five things you use it for that aren't entertainment or something totally non-essential, five things that are practical and useful and preferably make you money or provide a real service (NOT ENTERTAINMENT!) that equates to money; I bet you can't.
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Do as we say or we'll confiscate your business, your assets, imprison your family, and beat you senseless
That's about how I'd figure that conversation would go in Putin's Russia.
The real question here is: In 2017, can we trust ANYTHING to run on our computers that we didn't compile ourselves, after personally vetting the sourcecode -- and then, can we trust the compiler to not be compromised, too? Really, honestly, seriously, I'm starting to feel like we're getting to that point -- and even if what we're running isn't compromised as soon as it's installed, there doesn't seem to be much of anything that can prevent the mahcine from being compromised externally, unless you're never connected to the Internet, ever -- and even then, security researchers keep exposing exploits that can compromise a computer that's completely air-gapped.
You actually think what we have now is 'a competitive market'? How adorable you believe that. What we have are a few 350-pound inmates serving life sentences without parole, and like it or not you're going to be their 'girlfriend', if you catch my drift. The way the system is now is broken in fundamental ways because of monopolies (or near-monopolies), and give them a few years and there won't be ANY competition whatsoever, it'll be just one company and they'll do what they please with impugnity. Would you rather have things that way? Don't even try to claim it won't happen, either, it's inevitable unless something changes -- and that means some regulation, not de-regulating it.
I'll say the same thing to you I just said to someone else in this thread: Try, for a minute, to think beyond our current reality. The 'way things are and always have been' doesn't need to define us unless we let it.
Try, for a minute, to think beyond our current reality, please? The 'way things are and always have been' doesn't need to define us unless we let it.
I don't store passwords in a browser, and I sure as anything NEVER store 'payment information' in a browser. I'd sooner print up 1000 copies of all my CC information and post them on lampposts and grocery store bulletin boards, with "Please feel free to spend my money for me!" printed on them.
Does it make you evil? No. However according to marketers, their shills, rabid fanbois with more money than sense, and mindless early-adopters (who just have to have the latest regardless of need, sense, or if it's actually good) you're a 'luddite' and likely 'too old to understand' and will be taunted with accusations of telling people to 'get off your lawn', and the less polite of them will tell you you're 'old, and are going to DIE, SOON', and so on.
However in reality what you are, is an intelligent person, capable of critical thinking, who sees no reason to waste money on something that really doesn't bring you more benefit. It works for you, and so long as it continues to do that, why change it?
I rather agree with you. Sales of something like a TV must be more or less a flatline, unless you can come up with something earth-shaking that no one else has -- and when there is a standard you have to follow for your TV to even operate, there's no room for that, not really. So hey, how about we push for a new standard every few years, so we make everyone want to throw away their perfectly-good working TV and buy a whole new one, so they can Keep Up With The Joneses? We all see that media hype can convince people of almost anything (like 'AI' being a real thing, or self-driving cars actually being safe and effective, or Trump being a good choice for POTUS) so it should be a snap to convince people that they need MORE resolution on their TV than they can actually discern with the naked eye, right? Audiophiles would agree with me considering how easily they can be convinced to buy $4000 speaker cables.
No, I'm not really being funny. But I am being sarcastic as hell.
Don't forget that it was a 59.94Hz scan rate, but interlaced, so 29.97Hz framerate.
Why stop there?
How about all the above, plus the entire medical industry, including especially the pharmaceautical industry, be mandated as not-for-profit? Take greed out of the equation for everything that is classified as a necessity, and you come closer to the Star Trek vision of a post-scarcity, utopian society.
Of course the main problem is getting the rest of the world to go along with this, and getting rich conservative types, who would much rather we return the world to monarchies and feudalism, to not go around waving their arms screaming "Socialism!!!" and spending their considerable monetary and political resources shutting it down and permanently discrediting anyone who supported it.
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Wouldn't be surprised.
Mattel: "Better not release it this year. Let's wait for next year and see if we can sneak it in."
If you feel that way about it then sell the used panels to someone for a reasonable price, it's not like they reach a point where the output is zero, they just degrade over time. If you got 10% of your original purchase price after 20 years of use you'd still be doing better than just scrapping them, and especially with the way things are going economy-wise 20 years from now someone will be grateful as hell to even get mostly-used up panels for a cheap price because that's all they can afford and it'd be better than nothing.
Given the privacy concerns, lawmakers are worried that the always-on device could build an "in-depth profile of children and their family."
Well OF COURSE that's precisely what they're doing, regardless of what they 'officially' say about it. Wecome to the 21st Century, where humans are just another PRODUCT to be cultivated and SOLD. They've even done away with the need for numbers tattooed on the backs of everyones necks, they'll just go by IP address instead.
..but I diverge from my main subject.
We do not need machines raising children! If you can't be bothered to give the human life you made personal attention during it's growth and development, then maybe you shoudn't have had children in the first place! Children are not 'accessories', or 'pets', or a 'hobby'; they are a full time serious JOB and you need to take it seriously. No so-called 'AI'/surveillance devices 'monitoring' your kid, do it yourself or don't have them in the first place!
LOL I'm a 'bitter husk of a man', am I? No, I'm scoffing and laughing at you overgrown children with your pricey toys because you're ridiculous. You wander through the world staring at your phones and walk right into stationary objects, how hilarious is that? If you lose your shiny toy or the battery is dead, you're like heroin addicts who didn't get their fix fast enough, actual withdrawal symptoms. Pathetic, comical, laughable. Fools.
They'll have paid for themselves by then, there'll be more mass production of them compared to now so they'll be cheaper, they'll likely be more efficient anyway and therefore a better value for the price, and I'd think the old ones could be much more easily and thoroughly recycled than many other pieces of tech people toss in the e-waste bin, in fact I'll bet there'll be a 'core value' you'll get out of them *because* of the valuable materials in them.
Yeah? I recommend you stop lying to yourself why you 'have to have' a smartphone when you clearly don't NEED one -- and you're just representative of a whole crowd of people who just like SHINY THINGS and don't care how you're getting screwed over in the process. Don't even give a shit what you think of me or what I have to say because I goddamned well know I'm right.
Intuitively, I think it might be a symptom of chronic stress. Since 2016 I think everyone in this country, with the possible exception of the totally uninformed, have been under a great deal of stress from multiple sources, and it's just getting worse and worse as time goes by.
1 and 2: Does your company pay for your phone and service? No? Then why are you giving that to them for free? Make them pay for it.
3. You can do that with a $50 dumbphone.
4. Google maps.
5. LOL these days? You're dumb to do that. Take them to the bank or put them in the ATM. Besides how many checks do you get?
6. Again: does your job pay for the phone and service?
7. You can do that on a regular computer, you don't need a phone to do that.
8. Maybe if you didn't pay $1000 for a phone you could afford to drive yourself.
9 and 10. So you intentionally install surveillance devices all through your home? Beginning to see a pattern here..
11. You don't need a smartphone to do that! Paper and pencil. Or just keep track in your head!
12. So you're a helicopter parent who spies on his kids? Nice way to teach them the value of trust.
Nope. None of the above are compelling. Also I think you spend more time using it as a toy and naturally don't want to admit it and/or can't handle the peer pressure if someone you knew 'caught' you with a sensible dumbphone.
Oh I dunno, maybe would be good press and PR for him and his company, and perhaps a great way to help promote the product?
What's not clear from the article is whether he's donating them or whether he expects to be paid for them later. I know they're not cheap but under the circumstances I'd hope he's giving them away for free.
Nope. Smart people who have money are rich because they don't waste money on 'luxury' items that serve no real purpose. They buy what works and what is necessary, live in reasonable homes, drive reasonable cars, and have millions in the bank and in investments -- and nobody would guess unless they knew for a fact. Conspicuous consumption is a real thing, and it's something that happens in this country that makes so many other countries hate America and Americans.
The way most people 'use' their smartphones is for totally non-essential time-wasting distractions that they could well do without in their lives.
The smartphone has become a part of our everyday life
If you say so, but I think people like you are just trying to justify your addiction to your toys.
Does your $1000 phone make you money? Does it even make you enough money to pay for itself? Or is it just a perpetual black hole for your money every month for overpriced dataplans so you can watch movies, or porn, or play games, or whatever it is you actually use it for? Name five things you use it for that aren't entertainment or something totally non-essential, five things that are practical and useful and preferably make you money or provide a real service (NOT ENTERTAINMENT!) that equates to money; I bet you can't.